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(News.com.au)   Western Australia Senator defends wet t-shirt competitions: "People who say it demeans women get your feet back on the ground." (w/ helpfully not-safe-for-work pic of what a wet t-shirt competition entails)   (news.com.au) divider line 298
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2010-12-19 04:59:07 AM
Evocatus: Can we all agree now that we're all victims here and continue on with the victimization by posting more boobies barely contained behind wet see-through fabric?

This, dear Lord, THIS!

I = disappoint
 
2010-12-19 06:36:04 AM
Casey Kasem is an Australian senator now?
 
2010-12-19 07:24:34 AM
Genevieve Marie: Yea, it's insanely demeaning to women, but anyone who cares already knows this, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to have their mind changed by this particular story.

So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)


Thanks you for that link. That was by far the funniest thing I've ever read.

Some gems:
Rape culture is treating straight sexuality as the norm.

Rape culture is "nothing" being the most frequent answer to a question about what people have been formally taught about rape.

Rape culture is the insistence on trying to distinguish between different kinds of rape via the use of terms like "gray rape" or "date rape."

Rape culture is Amazon offering to locate "rape" products for you.

Rape culture is making rape a ubiquitous part of male-exclusive bonding

And my personal favourite: Rape culture is television shows and moviesleaving rape out of situations where it would be a present and significant threat in real life. That's right! If something has no rape in it, then it's part of rape culture.
 
2010-12-19 07:45:18 AM
Actually, I take it all back. This poor womyn most have the threat of rape stalking her every corner.

t2.gstatic.com
 
2010-12-19 08:18:12 AM
This thread is a crushing disappointment.

That is all.
 
2010-12-19 08:26:24 AM
Why are there more pics of dudes then women in this thread? you're doing it wrong
//kilt pictures are cool though
//wears a kilt
//not gey NTTAWWT
//prouds scotssman
 
2010-12-19 08:47:08 AM
I have no problem with women who have the self confidence required to show off their bodies to crowds of men, especially when they happen to be attractive women.

I do have a problem with women who show off their bodies to crowds of men because of self esteem issues.

However, I can't tell the difference just by watching their breasts behind a thin wall of wet cotton and it's their problem anyway. The ones with issues need to learn to deal with them.
 
2010-12-19 08:57:25 AM
Damn. This is a thread for the ladies. No worries I suppose God knows the balance tends to favor the gents.
 
2010-12-19 09:02:35 AM
Nimnom: Actually, I take it all back. This poor womyn most have the threat of rape stalking her every corner.

hey now, if you had read zer blog, you'd know that not just hot chicks get raepd

But seriously, I was expecting a wet t-shirt pic thread and instead spent the last two hours wading through this blog, which has reminded me just how shameful my existence is, and that Rape is Hilarious. I just have to pray to Maude that my heteronormative cissexual nondisabled Judd Apatow-enjoying male privileged existence is not overly contributing to or reinforcing the reigning patriarchy/kyriarchy that is keeping this country's womyns down.

/feeling sudden urge to kill things and master my domain.
 
2010-12-19 09:06:42 AM
Genevieve Marie: turbidum: The professor spent the entire first class pointing out gender inequalities inherent in the English language (there is no male equivalent of slut or biatch, we attack men by feminizing them and women by questioning their femininity, etc.

You don't think that's significant?


It's not significant because it's not true.

Biatch, by definition is female. Asshole or "dick" are the male equivalents, oh look a masculine insult there.

Slut is still slut whether male or female. It's an equal opportunity insult. It's your bias which equates it to the female gender.

Men are insulted by both "dick" and "pussy." Women are insulted by "dick."

Your class sucks in its epic failure on American culture.
 
2010-12-19 09:10:28 AM
thosejaunes: Nimnom: Actually, I take it all back. This poor womyn most have the threat of rape stalking her every corner.

hey now, if you had read hir/dir blog, you'd know that not just hot chicks get raepd

But seriously, I was expecting a wet t-shirt pic thread and instead spent the last two hours wading through this blog, which has reminded me just how shameful my existence is, and that Rape is Hilarious. I just have to pray to Maude that my heteronormative cissexual nondisabled Judd Apatow-enjoying male privileged existence is not overly contributing to or reinforcing the reigning patriarchy/kyriarchy that is keeping this country's womyns down.

/feeling sudden urge to kill things and master my domain.


ftfm - still getting the hang of these new gender-neutral pronouns.
 
2010-12-19 09:21:28 AM
Sun God: Boobs are not sexual organs.
Penises are sexual organs.

There are plenty of male wet t-shirt contests.


If boobs are not sexual organs, you are doing it wrong.
 
2010-12-19 09:23:48 AM
steerforth: "Ooh, I have testicles a vagina and I'm being oppressed! Halp!" That's about the extent of your 'rational' argument.

That was too easy. Tofu makes an excellent point that men are just as objectified in advertising and you whine about it. Boo hoo.

=Smidge=
/And even I noticed the shading in that pic suggests the man is packing more than just a thick wallet...
 
2010-12-19 09:33:33 AM
thosejaunes: Nimnom: Actually, I take it all back. This poor womyn most have the threat of rape stalking her every corner.

hey now, if you had read zer blog, you'd know that not just hot chicks get raepd

But seriously, I was expecting a wet t-shirt pic thread and instead spent the last two hours wading through this blog, which has reminded me just how shameful my existence is, and that Rape is Hilarious. I just have to pray to Maude that my heteronormative cissexual nondisabled Judd Apatow-enjoying male privileged existence is not overly contributing to or reinforcing the reigning patriarchy/kyriarchy that is keeping this country's womyns down.

/feeling sudden urge to kill things and master my domain.


It's extremely entertaining. Ze's like every feminist stereotype you can imagine. Ze writes equally funtastic articles for the guardian
 
2010-12-19 09:35:06 AM
This was the worst tit thread in the history of Fark.
 
2010-12-19 09:35:27 AM
: Genevieve Marie: Yea, it's insanely demeaning to women, but anyone who cares already knows this, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to have their mind changed by this particular story.

So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)

A speciously "highbrow" opinion from a chick who shows leg and doctored boob-grab photos on her profile to attract attention.

Very noble of you to be a downer--but I guess true feminism is to belittle other females for their methods of attracting attention if they don't match up with yours.

Hypocrite.



We're still waiting for an explanation, Genevieve.
 
2010-12-19 09:58:14 AM
quoinguy: : Genevieve Marie: Yea, it's insanely demeaning to women, but anyone who cares already knows this, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to have their mind changed by this particular story.

So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)

A speciously "highbrow" opinion from a chick who shows leg and doctored boob-grab photos on her profile to attract attention.

Very noble of you to be a downer--but I guess true feminism is to belittle other females for their methods of attracting attention if they don't match up with yours.

Hypocrite.


We're still waiting for an explanation, Genevieve.


I dunno - I'm kind of holding out for 'successful trolling'.
 
2010-12-19 10:07:20 AM
Ed Grubermann: cryinoutloud: orbitalfreak: Newsflash: Some women like getting ogled and put themselves in positions (heh) for men to ogle them.

You just keep telling yourself that. And I'm telling you that those women are probably pretty farked in the head if they "like" that. Does that make you feel good?

Really? They only do that because they're damaged and not because they think it's fun or an easy way to earn some money?
What the fark is it with the Virgin/Raped-by-her-stepfather mentality? Do we really need to demonize women who are okay with flaunting their sexuality?


You read one sentence of what I wrote and got offended, instead of reading the much longer explanation of why I felt that way. No, they don't do it because it's "easy." If she's giving it away cheaply, chances are she feels pretty cheap too. You all are welcome to enjoy it, but don't delude yourselves that the girls feel all "empowered" and that you love you thinking about planting your dick in them.

FWIW, I've been poor my whole life. I lived on the streets for a few years--if I thought it was 'easy' and empowering to do things like this to get money from guys, I'd certainly have explored the possibility. I had enough offers. But even though I was an alcoholic and took advantage of every drink, every place to crash, the only time I did anything sexual I felt like a complete piece of shiat. And I was a bum. I don't even want to know what the hell is wrong with these girls' heads that they 'want' to flash their cooze for every guy in town.

ramen_for_all: *stumbling in, out of breath*
is this the wet t-shirt fap thread? Am I late?


A posed, sexy picture isn't really the same thing as what we're talking about here. Girls Gone Wild isn't the same as a lovely picture of your favorite celeb with her nipples hard. That's why they'll pose naked, but they still get pissed off at stalker paparazzi taking pictures of them naked on vacation.

Fark, I'd love to have some nice risque photos of myself to show to the Fark community a few people. Still doesn't mean I'd hit the stripper pole for anybody.
 
2010-12-19 10:23:01 AM
Pinksprite: paleryder69: Yes, I could point out a few things such as the right to halt sex at any time. You do understand there is a point of no return with a man so that it becomes physically painful if they do not complete the act.

Please explain this. What is your point?


He's saying that if a guy quits having sex, he gets blue balls and it hurts. That's true, but it's not an excuse to keep going if she says stop, so I don't know why he even brought it up.

The thing is, if a girl has allowed me to flirt with her and flirted back. Then she allows me to kiss her. Then she agrees to go to somebody's house, then she allows me to paw her like a spider monkey. Then we undress. Then she lets me go down on her. Then she lets me put my penis in - and then she says "stop, I changed my mind" ...she's crazy. Not like good crazy. Bad crazy. I want to get the hell away from her as fast as possible. I will happily feel like I've been kicked in the balls if feeling that way gets me at least a mile away from a crazy girl.

It could be a lot worse. She could say "no" in the morning. As in, I'm cooking breakfast and she says, "no, I don't want to have sex" and I'm like, "so no morning sex huh?" and she goes, "you don't understand, I don't want to have sex last night!" That's a nightmare right there. So really, she's doing me a favor if she reveals her crazy earlier on.

A buddy of mine tells a funny story about that happening to him. According to him, she said "no" when he stuck it in because she just wants a guy to beg. That strokes her ego I guess. So what he did was to happily hop out of bed and cheerfully announce that this is totally cool. Then he sits down at his desk, loads up some porn and starts whacking it, with her right there in the room. And that makes her angry, like absolutely livid, he says.

That's a weird sexual dynamic that few people talk about. Women have veto power - the power to say "no" and if you're a sociopath (let's say 10% of the population), you don't just want the power in and of itself, you want to feel it affecting other people. You want to squash people with it. Like my buddy says, she wanted him to be reduced to begging.

And quite honestly, I think this is part of the problem that some people have with porn - not like obviously bad porn where women are humiliated, but just naked pictures of smiling women. I think that for some people, it's not that it's offensive, the real problem is that it reduces their market value. And here's the thing, I actually have very few original ideas. Most of what I say comes from taking women's studies courses and then simply applying that logic to the other side of the coin. See, what I just said about porn is the same thing that a feminist would say about "powerful women." They say that it makes men angry because they feel it reducing their market value. And there's some truth to that. If I claim that I want to "provide" for a woman, and then you set me up on a date with Oprah, is there anything stopping me from buying her drinks and paying for her dinner? Nope. But somehow it feels different. I feel less valuable - because I am. I'm reminded of a time my wife started mowing the lawn. I hadn't done it because the ground was still wet, but she just went out there and started doing it. I was actually kind of hurt by that, though I never told her (I just mowed the damn lawn). And I think that part (but not all) of the problem with porn and wet t-shirt competitions is exactly the same phenomenon, if we have the honesty to admit it.

So note that what I said in the CSB above is not a justification of porn or wet t-shirts. It's actually an argument that guys should not indulge in them - or at least not normalize them. For the record (like anyone cares) I would happily give up porn and even masturbation if a woman I loved said that's the way it ought to be. I'd say okay, I will make myself totally dependent on you for this physical need. But if you abuse that power, I'm out of here like a goddamn ninja with one of those explosive smoke bombs.
 
2010-12-19 10:34:41 AM
Tofu:He's saying that if a guy quits having sex, he gets blue balls and it hurts. That's true, but it's not an excuse to keep going if she says stop, so I don't know why he even brought it up.

Der. If you're that far along when she says 'stop', that's when you pull out and come on her face.

/seriously - if he was acceptable enough to fark right up to the point of orgasm, saying 'stop' at that point better be because you're having a heart attack or something or you're just a complete biatch who needs to be dumped at the curb with, 'biatch' branded on your forehead.
 
2010-12-19 10:55:23 AM
Western Australia, that's near Switzerland, right?
 
2010-12-19 10:56:47 AM
redmid17: Pinksprite: Genevieve Marie: redmid17: scumbag = coont or slut

Scumbag isn't specifically sexual in nature

evidently "scumbag" means condom.

No


There's always douche or douchebag.

And I find it hard to believe Gen's a feminist, since there's nothing empowering about playing the victim.
 
2010-12-19 11:00:34 AM
Wow.

This thread is disgusting. It's like a trainwreck that you can't look away from.

Seriously, playing the blue balls card? I can understand that there are times when not finishing gets painful because I know that that is true. But because you're a farkin' human being with the ability to understand that 'hey, sometimes, shiat happens' unlike a farkin' animal, if she says stop, you farking stop. And if you can barely contain it finish off into the toilet bowl and wipe it off on her cat.

fark. Can't farkin' believe you people.
 
2010-12-19 11:10:45 AM
WORST. THREAD. EVAR.
 
2010-12-19 11:33:46 AM
Damn most disappointing fark thread in a long time.
 
2010-12-19 11:35:27 AM
Orgasmatron138: WORST. THREAD. EVAR.

WORST. THREAD. EVAR.
 
2010-12-19 11:41:45 AM
One idiot with a stupid article by an even bigger idiot totally derails what should have been an epic, beautiful thing.

You've ruined Christmas/Festivus/Kwanzaa/Han..Chan..the Jewish one.
 
2010-12-19 11:42:44 AM
kingfish2004: Orgasmatron138: WORST. THREAD. EVAR.

WORST. THREAD. EVAR.
 
2010-12-19 11:48:46 AM
Swede: One idiot with a stupid article by an even bigger idiot totally derails what should have been an epic, beautiful thing.

You've ruined Christmas/Festivus/Kwanzaa/Han..Chan..the Jewish one.


I'm glad to see someone else celebrates the Star Wars holiday too.

images.wikia.com
 
2010-12-19 11:51:59 AM
redmid17: Swede: One idiot with a stupid article by an even bigger idiot totally derails what should have been an epic, beautiful thing.

You've ruined Christmas/Festivus/Kwanzaa/Han..Chan..the Jewish one.

I'm glad to see someone else celebrates the Star Wars holiday too.

www.i-mockery.com
 
2010-12-19 12:47:28 PM
kingfish2004: Orgasmatron138: WORST. THREAD. EVAR.

WORST. THREAD. EVAR.


img378.imageshack.us

Also:
i165.photobucket.com
 
2010-12-19 12:49:40 PM
DominaNY, you are on my favorites list as of NOW.

Also, redmid17, and not just because you're mentioning my name. But it doesn't hurt.

/We're stuck in a name-dropping culture.
//I feel violated.
///People only like me for my name.
////Read this link. It's long, but it addresses my point. If you don't read it all, you aren't qualified to reply to my point-of-view.
 
2010-12-19 12:55:10 PM
"First they outlawed dwarf tossing, but because I was neither a dwarf, nor tossed them, I said nothing. Then they tried to outlaw wet t-shirt contests because they hate and fear boobies. I like boobies, so I told the nasty nellies to GTFO."
 
2010-12-19 12:58:06 PM
They better hand out 'I Survived The Worst Tit Thread EVER' awards for this monstrosity.
 
2010-12-19 01:01:13 PM
Witchyman: They better hand out 'I Survived The Worst Tit Thread EVER' awards for this monstrosity.

hhahahahaha
 
2010-12-19 01:38:25 PM
The Titans are making me very happy right now.
 
2010-12-19 01:52:35 PM
picodenico: The Titans are making me very happy right now.

I'm wishing I was with The Girl at her Dad's house so I could hear her Dad swearing at the Giant's troubles.
 
2010-12-19 02:37:00 PM
It continues to amaze me that so many women have so little understanding of the male condition. Here it is ladies, in case you didn't know. Every straight male that looks at you, no matter what you look like, no matter how old or young (he is or you are), no matter if he's your minister, mayor or mail man, has just cast you in a starring or supporting role in the never ending porno movie that's going on every minute of the day in the back of his mind.

Often we're not even aware of it. Most of us certainly don't act on it or let it color how we interact with you, or even effect the respect, admiration or lack there of for other parts of you, like your personality or intellect.

I can't speak for what goes on in a woman's mind, but I suspect something similar.

Ok, you can go back to all that proselytizing about the evil patriarchy now.
 
2010-12-19 03:03:34 PM
thespindrifter: Genevieve Marie: Yea, it's insanely demeaning to women, but anyone who cares already knows this, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to have their mind changed by this particular story.

So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)

You sound fat.

Also, is the "Boobies" tag on vacation?


Obviously, you did not check her profile.
 
2010-12-19 07:43:08 PM
thosejaunes: hey now, if you had read zer blog, you'd know that not just hot chicks get raepd

Yeah I would venture to say her raep incident happened at college when she was drunk and half blacked out, hell I told a girl she had sex with a guy and she never even knew it happened since she was blacked out. Then one time she wasnt quite gone and started making out then it just kept going and she was so drunk it was like she was outside her body watching it happen.

But I wouldnt say it would never happen to her because men will fark anything that has a pulse.

dogdaze: Damn most disappointing fark thread in a long time.

Yeah, blame Genevieve. She trolled it good and then left it to die without one pic of her tits.
 
2010-12-19 07:45:17 PM
Oh and from her article "that rape is a compliment"

I have never heard anyone refer to it that way.
 
2010-12-19 08:05:40 PM
Chariset: Did they also have a "wet boxers" competition? No? In that case, yes, it demeans women.

Not familiar with the, "I was just in the pool!" thing huh?
 
2010-12-19 08:29:14 PM
I'm moving to Australia, becoming a citizen, just so I can vote for this guy
 
2010-12-19 08:51:03 PM
steamingpile: I have never heard anyone refer to it that way.

Neither have I, but I can guess what she's getting at: someone saying, "hey, you should be thankful that you're so attractive that someone raped you." I doubt that anyone has ever seriously expressed such a sentiment.

The author of that article is disturbed. And when I say that, I'm not minimizing rape or suggesting it's not a big deal. It's like terrorism. We all agree it's a big deal, and that it's something we should be talking about and dealing with. But to obsess over it the way the author apparently does is simply not healthy.

And to make actually make stuff up (many of the items on the list simply do not happen for real) in order for you to have something to obsess over - that's even more disturbed. I have a healthy fear of terrorism, but if I catch a southpark episode that makes fun of it or makes fun of people who are consumed by fear of it, and then I write a long blog post about how south park supports "terrorism culture" - well, like I said, disturbed.

And speaking of south park and rape culture, I note that south park has made rape jokes on several occasions, but it's always males who are raped. One that springs to mind is Imagination Land. The bad guys capture Rainbow Brite and of all the various tortures that propose, they leave out rape. That's fine. But then later in the episode they capture some male soldiers and they rape them.
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2010-12-20 12:06:12 AM
Wow, haters really have taken over. This could have been an awesome thread. Oh well.
 
2010-12-20 08:39:57 AM
FNG: This could have been an awesome thread.

I think you're all looking at it wrong! Doesn't Fark love failure? Don't we love to watch something wonderful be torn apart in an unexpected way?!?

Ah yes... this thread could have been a mammary oriented conversation(gallery), but instead it's turned into a monumental thread jack! Something to be celebrated! You should all be proud!

Also, I've gained at least two favorites from this thread... perhaps more. Thank you all.
 
2010-12-20 11:22:53 AM
Thanks Tofu, you made this is the best titty thread with hardly any pics.
 
2010-12-20 06:52:57 PM
redmid17: GAT_00: redmid17: Let me clarify. I am/was a frat guy. I want women to objectify me. I just need somewhere to sign up. I am not interested in the viewing aspect. I'm a performer damnnit!

Hell, I have no idea. College bar still works though. Organize it, distribute flyers, whole thing. Same way you organize wet t-shirt contests I imagine.

Well that's not really helpful. I do like the House picture in your profile though. I will scout Beaumont's and a few other places in Chicago.


Gay bars. Gay men want the same thing straight men do, after all. You can sign up at any of them, guaranteed they all have wet/shirtless competitions, and straight women will come too; but prepare to be ogled and possibly groped and dirty danced with by numerous sweaty men. And stay the HELL away from a "bear" bar.
 
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