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(News.com.au)   Western Australia Senator defends wet t-shirt competitions: "People who say it demeans women get your feet back on the ground." (w/ helpfully not-safe-for-work pic of what a wet t-shirt competition entails)   (news.com.au) divider line 298
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2010-12-18 07:37:43 PM
This man is a saint.
 
2010-12-18 07:54:47 PM
Our big prize tonight is fifty Australian dollars to the girl with the most exciting mammalian protruberances!
 
2010-12-18 08:27:33 PM
I presume those feet are barefoot and in the kitchen.
 
2010-12-18 08:34:57 PM
Did they also have a "wet boxers" competition? No? In that case, yes, it demeans women.
 
2010-12-18 08:35:34 PM
about time our country took a step forward
 
2010-12-18 08:41:35 PM
That picture wasn't clear. I need more information on what a wet t-shirt contest might look like.
 
2010-12-18 08:50:20 PM
Anything women choose to do isn't demeaning. It's empowering. If I had been born an attractive woman you better believe I'd be milking it for all it's worth.

Have you ever looked at the people who protest this sort of thing? Yeah...it's because it's demeaning...nothing to at all with bitterness.

3.bp.blogspot.com

/loves when a perfectly appropriate pic is on the first page of a GIS
 
2010-12-18 09:01:41 PM
I am firmly opposed to kidnapping women and forcing them to take part in wet t-shirt competitions. To all of those men who do not want all participants to be willing I say, Shame on you.
 
2010-12-18 09:10:59 PM
If only they'd been like this 60 years ago.

Hitler would have been too distracted and there wouldn't have been a Holocaust.
 
2010-12-18 09:20:27 PM
Senator Sterle, who spent 12 years as a truck driver in the Pilbara and Kimberley, said politicians should focus on problems in their own electorates.

Gotcha.
 
2010-12-18 09:28:42 PM
Chariset: Did they also have a "wet boxers" competition? No? In that case, yes, it demeans women.

If there was a demand for "wet boxer" competitions then there would be some. However, there isn't. Because men are gross and women are hot.
 
2010-12-18 09:46:46 PM
Chariset: Did they also have a "wet boxers" competition? No? In that case, yes, it demeans women.

Were those women forced up there? Were they forced to wear white shirts and pour water on themselves?

Are you holding a wet boxers competition? No? Why not? I don't think it's demeaning of my fellow men? Why not? The guys who would be in the competition chose to be there. Go ahead and hold it. I don't give a flying fark and I don't consider it demeaning of men as a whole.

There are plenty of actual demeaning things that women are forced to do. Things they do willingly don't farking count.
 
2010-12-18 10:12:00 PM
Chariset: Did they also have a "wet boxers" competition?

And they never will. Why?

Shrinkage.
 
2010-12-18 10:22:57 PM
Protip: women have been viewed as sexual objects throughout human history. You're not going to change that by foregoing showers and waving some shiatty cardboard sign outside a titty bar.
 
2010-12-18 10:24:33 PM
"People who say it demeans women get your feet back on the ground."

And back in the kitchen where they belong.
 
2010-12-18 10:24:48 PM
Potential epic thread?
 
2010-12-18 10:25:45 PM
...I said about time our country took a step forward
 
2010-12-18 10:26:37 PM
Holy shiat I live in W.A and this affects me!
 
2010-12-18 10:27:01 PM
GIS for "unattractive women"

cdn.ihatethemedia.com

GIS for "attractive women"

loyalkng.com

Just sayin'
 
2010-12-18 10:30:04 PM
texdent: Potential epic thread?


That's what I'm praying for.
 
2010-12-18 10:30:06 PM
A WA senator has defended a wet T-shirt competition at a popular Broome pub

Is Broome closer to Walla Walla or Spokane? Or maybe Vienna and Innsbruck?
 
2010-12-18 10:30:27 PM
Is that Ringo Starr in the audience?

/unless Yasser Arafat's really not dead...
 
2010-12-18 10:31:24 PM
Stay Cool Babylon: Anything women choose to do isn't demeaning. It's empowering. If I had been born an attractive woman you better believe I'd be milking it for all it's worth.
Have you ever looked at the people who protest this sort of thing? Yeah...it's because it's demeaning...nothing to at all with bitterness.
/loves when a perfectly appropriate pic is on the first page of a GIS


I don't know. I mean I'm not sure. I guess they can do it if they want, but I kind of think they have a few screws loose if they want to go around flashing complete strangers. Same with porn actresses--sure, it's of their own free will, but I can't help but feel their head is pretty farked up even before they start doing that stuff.

If I were flaunting everything I had for anyone except somebody I cared about, I'd be pretty farked up in the head. So that's all I know about that.
 
2010-12-18 10:31:31 PM
farm1.static.flickr.com
 
2010-12-18 10:31:34 PM
Stay Cool Babylon: If I had been born an attractive woman you better believe I'd be milking it for all it's worth.


media.giantbomb.com
 
2010-12-18 10:31:38 PM
F22raptom: Holy shiat I live in W.A and this affects me!

There are times, oh yes there are when *wipes tear from eye* I really love my country.
 
2010-12-18 10:33:54 PM
Yea, it's insanely demeaning to women, but anyone who cares already knows this, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to have their mind changed by this particular story.

So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)
 
2010-12-18 10:35:05 PM
finally, a wise politician!

/ducks
 
2010-12-18 10:37:48 PM
Venkmans Love Child: pic

I'm pretty sure you crossed the streams with that one
 
2010-12-18 10:38:34 PM
Hey, Genevieve, there is NO such thing as a "rape culture". All HUMAN cultures include rape, genocide, infanticide, war, and other atrocities.

You are a major buzzkill AND I am a woman. (and an Anthropologist) There is NOTHING wrong with gorgeous women strutting their stuff and a woman who ASSUMES that being sexually attractive creates a rape culture is a woman who hates men, for no other reason than that they are men.

Wanna debate. I'll put my PhD in Cultural Anthropology from Columbia University up against your nasty agenda...I'll even mudfight, have men pay for it, and beat your ass.
 
2010-12-18 10:38:54 PM
DominaNY: GIS for "unattractive women"



GIS for "attractive women"



Just sayin'


it would be funnier if any of the "ugly" ones were under 40 and any of the attractive ones were over 30.

Just sayin'
 
2010-12-18 10:39:00 PM
This is Casey Kasem, reminding you to keep your feet on the ground and your head in the boobies.
 
2010-12-18 10:39:18 PM
Genevieve Marie: Yea, it's insanely demeaning to women, but anyone who cares already knows this, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to have their mind changed by this particular story.

So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)


Oooh no. I'm not getting suckered into watching the final countdown again.
 
2010-12-18 10:40:01 PM
Genevieve Marie: Yea, it's insanely demeaning to women, but anyone who cares already knows this, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to have their mind changed by this particular story.

So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)


Here, I improved that, just substitute in Rape Culture (new window)
 
2010-12-18 10:40:15 PM
Eh, I live in WA now too and I can't say I'm bothered.

I travelled all around Oz earlier this year and hung out with backpackers for a while. I witnessed a couple of these wet t-shirt competitions they hold at backpacker clubs, with prizes of 50 or a hundred bucks. The girls were pretty enough, sure, but it just reaked of desperation, and the whole spectacle was rather sad.

Don't get me wrong, I
I wholeheartedly support their right to continue to look pathetic and desperate whilst having water poured over them though.
 
2010-12-18 10:41:06 PM
This politician is more to my liking...
 
2010-12-18 10:41:47 PM
DominaNY: I'll even mudfight, have men pay for it, and beat your ass.

Congrats, you're awesome and men want you, and I'm still a nagging harpy.

Here, have your cookie from the patriarchy.

Just don't expect to talk. It's not your place.
 
2010-12-18 10:42:07 PM
Genevieve Marie:
So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)


Umm... you apparently linked to an article about mixing sex and violence in society is bad. Well, that's nice, but how is this relevant again?
 
2010-12-18 10:42:29 PM
It only demeans the ugly ones.
 
2010-12-18 10:43:45 PM
Genevieve Marie: Yea, it's insanely demeaning to women, but anyone who cares already knows this, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to have their mind changed by this particular story.

So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)


But what is the link between wet t-shirt contests and violence? I'd agree that linking sex and violence is dangerous but in what way is letting women dance in white tshirts while pouring water on themselves while men cheer encouraging violence?
 
2010-12-18 10:45:13 PM
Chariset: Did they also have a "wet boxers" competition? No? In that case, yes, it demeans women.

Nice cats. BIE?
 
2010-12-18 10:47:33 PM
I can't think up a clever name: But what is the link between wet t-shirt contests and violence? I'd agree that linking sex and violence is dangerous but in what way is letting women dance in white tshirts while pouring water on themselves while men cheer encouraging violence?

Read the whole thing, with every link. It took me a good two hours to get through, it was all stuff I already knew, and it was still a good overview.

Basically, at the point where you make sex an unequal relationship- and when you turn anything sexual into an attempt to get approval rather than an attempt to actually connect with someone and experience pleasure- it's a problem.

But like I said, I don't expect anything in there to change the minds of anyone who isn't interested in exploring the subject for personal reasons and because of interest in the topic. In this setting, most people will go into it just to argue specific points rather than considering it as a whole.
 
2010-12-18 10:48:22 PM
Way too many words, nowhere near enough pix.
 
2010-12-18 10:48:35 PM
It's only demeaning because the angry feminist broads don't have nice enough tits to win.
 
2010-12-18 10:48:36 PM
Genevieve Marie: Yea, it's insanely demeaning to women, but anyone who cares already knows this, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to have their mind changed by this particular story.

So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)


You sound fat.

Also, is the "Boobies" tag on vacation?
 
2010-12-18 10:49:28 PM
Rape is now "culture?"

When the hell did it attain that status?

I always thought it was a crime of violence.

/pretty sure gay men's clubs have wet shirt/boxer contests
//is that somehow now "gay rape culture?"
 
2010-12-18 10:49:52 PM
Chariset: Did they also have a "wet boxers" competition? No? In that case, yes, it demeans women.

Wet t-shirt and wet boxers aren't parallel, so you can't make the determination you're trying to make in that way. Female apes (not just humans) are not as attracted to the body shape of the opposite sex as are male apes. Females' instincts make them attracted to male status and success first, then to his ability to control resources. Females judge males based on the things they do, not the way they look.

So, if you want your comment to actually mean something, you need to ask if any males are presented as "success objects." You need to look at images in the popular culture that depict males and ask if they perpetuate the idea that a man's only worth is the amount of money he has and the number of women he farks. That's the actual equivalent of a wet t-shirt contest.

And by the way, I'm not whining about these depictions of males. I'm totally cool with it. My point is that you no longer have a free pass to claim that women are poor poor downtrodden helpless victims of a culture that objectifies them. Because every time you make that claim, I'm going to point out that men face exactly the same objectification. For every little girl whose life is negatively impacted by depictions of women as sex objects, who gets it into her head that she has to be thin and pretty to be worth anything, there are two or three boys who are negatively impacted by depictions of men as success objects, who get it into their heads that their only worth is the amount of money they amass and the number of women that they have sex with.
 
2010-12-18 10:50:03 PM
Chariset: Did they also have a "wet boxers" competition? No? In that case, yes, it demeans women.

I guess we'll put you down as a "maybe" for the next competition?

Reminds me of an old George Carlin joke:

"Have you ever noticed that the most of the women who are against abortion aren't women you'd want to fark in the first place?"
 
2010-12-18 10:50:16 PM
Genevieve Marie: Yea, it's insanely demeaning to women, but anyone who cares already knows this, and anyone who doesn't isn't going to have their mind changed by this particular story.

So on the off chance you're on the fence, and would like to know what rape culture really feels like for a woman, I'll just leave this here:

Link (new window)


You only said rape once. You don't like rape? What else comes in 40 pound boxes? (no innuendo intended, unless you have a good answer)
 
2010-12-18 10:52:21 PM
Tofu: Wet t-shirt and wet boxers aren't parallel, so you can't make the determination you're trying to make in that way. Female apes (not just humans) are not as attracted to the body shape of the opposite sex as are male apes. Females' instincts make them attracted to male status and success first, then to his ability to control resources. Females judge males based on the things they do, not the way they look.

Wet wallet contest, then?
 
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