ghare: They must be trying to breed teabaggers.

Troll -1

Unpopular view time here.

I believe that there shouldn't be a law against consenting adults engaging in an incestual relationship, however i do believe such relationships are due a higher level of scrutiny to ensure that it -is- in fact, a consensual relationship, due to the potential abuse of power situation, that and the whole chance of popping out crotchfruit with 2 heads and 7 toes.

If Rush Limbaugh and get married 3 or 4 times, and Elizabeth taylor 10 or 11 times, two people who actually do love each other should be left alone.

Of course, there's a simple litmus test.

Will it bew a physical or financial danger to me or anybody I give a damn about? Will it affect me or anybody I give a damn about in any significant fashion?

AverageAmericanGuy: I can't be the only one with a hot sister. It starts with a little spying while she's in the shower, and then one thing leads to another and you're messing around. It's not like we've gone all the way, but I'm sure if we weren't related it'd be all good.

........go on

ghare: They must be trying to breed teabaggers.

+1 internets to you, good sir.

ghare: They must be trying to breed teabaggers Palin critics.

FTFY

SoothinglyDeranged
GAT_00: hitchking: I don't know shiat about mythology

I'm more talking about stuff like Zeus, who I'm pretty sure farked at least a few of his daughters. Greek and Roman stuff is filled with incest. How common it is in religious mythology seems to suggest it wasn't as taboo for such things to be acceptable.

What was acceptable among gods were very different than what was acceptable among humans. As has been already shown in the comments, actually. You will notice when humans are incestuous it is viewed by other humans as disgusting and horrifying, but when done by the gods it is often reported as a matter of course and no one seems to care.

While it might (I'm not sure) not have been illegal in old Rome, incest certainly must have been a scandal since allegations of farking at least one (Drusilla) or even all three of his sisters where used to slander emperor Caligula.
Then again, it's also said - among other things - that Caligula tried to appoint his horse to be a consul and to be a priest, so boinking his sister(s) registers rather low on the open-ended Caligula insanity scale.

Though one has to give Caligula some credit for throwing a fan block full of spectators into the arena to the lions to liven up an otherwise boring intermission of the games.



As for Zeus: That guy was nailing everybody and everything, no matter if it involved siblings, daughters or turning into animals or things to trick or rape some hottie who caught his eye.
And it must have been inheritable, since some of his kids like Ares and Aphrodite must have had enough affairs to create several children.


As for incest, allegedly the Ptolemaic (Cleopatra!) rulers of Egypt could have been contenders for building the straightest family tree possible; according to wikipedia:



Ha-ha! Arsinoe III and Ptolemy IV had to bring that harlot Cleopatra into the family because those losers apparently didn't manage to produce as sister their son could marry; their parents must have been so disappointed.

I saw a study recently that said that girls are less likely to talk to their father while ovulating, but spend the same amount of time talking to their mother.

Nature sorts itself out.

Barakku: It can still be abuse, parents have a lot of control over their kids socially and emotionally. That said I'm on the fence about it. If I were Swiss I'd be more worried about forcing people to provide real evidence in rape and "surprise sex" allegations.

I hope if you were swiss you would be more worried about learning the difference between your country and sweeden, or you might end up more like your nearby friends the Australians.

Article headline: Will Switzerland allow incest?

Fark headline: Switzerland will allow incest

Subby: Retarded

vegasj: Fank: Autocorrect huh? What about farking, can I say farking?

you must be new...

Yeah, or I just never used fark before. Retard.

Shatner's Bassoon: Article headline: Will Switzerland allow incest?

Fark headline: Switzerland will allow incest

Subby: Retarded

//incest can be dangerous to your intelligence

Fank: you must be new...

Yeah, or I just never used fark before.

You do realize that if you have never used something before, you are new to it?

Rreal: Unpopular view time here.

I believe that there shouldn't be a law against consenting adults engaging in an incestual relationship, however i do believe such relationships are due a higher level of scrutiny to ensure that it -is- in fact, a consensual relationship, due to the potential abuse of power situation, that and the whole chance of popping out crotchfruit with 2 heads and 7 toes.

If Rush Limbaugh and get married 3 or 4 times, and Elizabeth taylor 10 or 11 times, two people who actually do love each other should be left alone.

Of course, there's a simple litmus test.

Will it bew a physical or financial danger to me or anybody I give a damn about? Will it affect me or anybody I give a damn about in any significant fashion?

1. Financial? Yes in countries with publicly funded health care, if there are children
2. Physical? No
3. Will it affect you? Possibly, depending on if you actually know the people in question.

This isn't a consensual adults thing, it's a societal thing. The parent/child relationship should be sacrosanct and not sexual. There is way too much bound up in a parental relationship in terms of the development of future generations, the bond with potential grandchildren, and the care of the elderly. The need humans have for parenthood is why parental incest is always wrong and should be considered a form of abuse. "Parent" is a social role that precludes any other.

Just think of the consequences, what happens if the couple divorces? I guess now you won't be seeing Mom on the holidays, huh? What happens if your mom divorces your dad to shack up with your brother? This is totally a nightmare from a family's perspective.

Also, the Westermarck effect explains that a child should not desire their parents or siblings who they are raised with anyways, so if there is some kind of attraction, there has already been some kind of psychological abnormality.

Approves!

DamnYankees: downpaymentblues: The claim is that it isn't truly consensual due to the unique nature of an adult parent/child relationship.

Oh. Eh, I don't buy it.

How about this. A parent could basically groom a child their entire life to want to be their mate, which is pretty farking sick.

Approves

bobbette: "Parent" is a social role that precludes any other.

Right, so you must support legislation forcing the parent to give their child financial support their entire life, since it is obviously the state's job to enforce social roles.

DamnYankees: Consensual private activity between adults.

Why should that be illegal?

It shouldn't be so long as there's a provision that NO offspring may result from such unions, IE that any pregnancies would result in mandatory abortions. It would be cruel to allow those children to face the inevitable horrible physical defects and social stigma. Even more importantly, the children of such unions would almost certainly become huge burdens on society, given that mentally, physically, and psychologically they would be farked up (How would YOU feel knowing that your dad was also your grandpa?!?!?).

HMS_Blinkin: It shouldn't be so long as there's a provision that NO offspring may result from such unions, IE that any pregnancies would result in mandatory abortions

Women who choose to have kids after 40 have significantly higher increases of mental and genetic defects in their crotchfruit (Downs syndrome rate can be as high as 1 in 10 at 49) - so I assume you support the mandatory abortions of these selfish old birds too?

Even as adults, parents and children are not psychological equals.

lilplatinum: bobbette: "Parent" is a social role that precludes any other.

Right, so you must support legislation forcing the parent to give their child financial support their entire life, since it is obviously the state's job to enforce social roles.

No, but thanks for bringing that ridiculous non sequitur into the thread.

bobbette: No, but thanks for bringing that ridiculous non sequitur into the thread.

You seem to imply that it is the governments job to maintain social relationships, why should it end in the bedroom?

GAT_00: hitchking: I don't know shiat about mythology

I'm more talking about stuff like Zeus, who I'm pretty sure farked at least a few of his daughters. Greek and Roman stuff is filled with incest. How common it is in religious mythology seems to suggest it wasn't as taboo for such things to be acceptable.

If the show Rome is to be believed, the brother-sister incest taboo was alive and well, at least among mortals.

Phil Herup: Approves

Hah, I remember that story

HMS_Blinkin: It would be cruel to allow those children to face the inevitable horrible physical defects and social stigma

is it cruel to let children be born with birth defects that didn't arise from incest? Do you advocate for mandatory abortions in all cases when it may be possible that the child may not be "perfect"?

bobbette: Marriage between second-degree relatives (aunt/uncle, niece/nephew) is already legal in Switzerland,

That's messed up.

Tell me about it. I have several uncles who are married to my aunts.

All the more reason to marry someone hot.

And while some are going to be simply raising their children, others are going be grooming future lovers.

Marriage between second-degree relatives (aunt/uncle, niece/nephew) is already legal in Switzerland, but the new measure would overturn the ban on consensual sexual relationships between siblings, and between parents and their adult children. (Sexual relationships with underage children would, of course, remain illegal.)

Different cultures and all that..ohhell, thats pathetically disgusting. What kind of amoral freaks would consider such a thing?

bobbette: Rreal: This isn't a consensual adults thing, it's a societal thing. The parent/child relationship should be sacrosanct and not sexual.

You lost me at the word "sacrosanct". Keep your religion outta my laws.

It's vile to cut yourself over and over with a rusty metal protractor and a sign of serious psychological trouble (knew a kid in middle school who used to do that). Not Illegal.

It's vile to drink yourself into oblivion every night, destroying your job, your relationships, and your liver. Not Illegal.

It's vile to torture dogs to death in the privacy of your own home, where no one will see you and no one will be offended by your cruelty to animals. Not Illegal. (well, mostly anyway)

It's vile to cut me off in traffic like the asshole you are. Not Illegal.

It's vile to take wildly unjustifiable risks with your investors' money, to extend home loans to tens or hundreds of thousands of people who shouldn't have them, with predatory terms, and then go whingeing to Congress for a bailout when your house of cards tumbles. Not Illegal.

It's vile to live in a house you never clean, leaving cat shiat two inches thick on the floor, old coagulated food scraps on every piece of furniture, stacks of dusty old copies of National Geographic clogging your hallways. Not Illegal.

It's vile as all get-out to have sex with someone in your family. Should not be illegal.

Dude....
Whatever people want to do in their bedrooms is their own business, but don't start legalizing that shiiiiat!!!

Do you want your son to grow up learning it is ok to Efff his sister and it is ok if she touches his wee wee!!!!And then who knows...maybe getting her pregnant!!

When will it stop!!! Churches ceremonies for people marrying siblings, ppl to animals( dogs, cat,sheep....COWS), people to IPODs!!!

So what if freakin Zues did it with his sis, or mom or a dog...it's in the end a fictional story!! or the bible is filled with it!!!! Who cares!!!
Do you think it is rational to have incest legalized!!! And if so who do you think you are to say at what age and for whom this is going to be legalized to!!! It's going to be a never ending debate over something so retarded.
It is funny how since and researches can support any argument in any moral issue (Wasn't marrying your cousin bad for your kids!!!!)
I think the Swiss or other supporting countries are watching too much Incest Hentai, learning banjo and too much free time in their hands, instead of finding cure for cancer...
Damn, Time to take a bath...
"Daughter, could u help me wash my back while I take care of your grandma!..."
shiat..that is sick..

BreezyWheeze: It's vile to torture dogs to death in the privacy of your own home, where no one will see you and no one will be offended by your cruelty to animals. Not Illegal. (well, mostly anyway)

This one is illegal, although as animals should just be property it shouldn't be.

DamnYankees: Consensual private activity between adults.

Why should that be illegal?

For the greater good. Gotta protect people from themselves or else society won't have as productive of citizens than society deserves. Also anything icky should be illegal. Also anything I don't do is also wrong.

/this sarcasm goes to eleven.

omasa: When will it stop!!! Churches ceremonies for people marrying siblings, ppl to animals( dogs, cat,sheep....COWS), people to IPODs!!!

As long as the siblings are adults, sure why not.. Animals and ipods cannot give consent so your examples are just as idiotic as your sentence construction skills.

GAT_00: This is what small government conservatism should actually be about: removing unnecessary laws and government intervention when consenting adults are involved. And honestly, if we don't have the right to prevent two consenting adults from having sex, and we don't, then we don't have the right to ban incest.
Umm it is. You just take everyone at their word when they claim to be something or just accept labels that other people apply to them?

Or do you just accept it because it is untrue and therefore convenient to group the Palin types with them because that allows you to demonize anyone who disagrees?

Incest? Moar like WINCEST, amirite?

Really, no Summertime Delight?

bimalc: ...and uncle-niece marriages...

I have a couple of smoking hot nieces so this is good news for me. :)

As long as it's consensual and they don't make creepy inbred kids, I don't have a big problem with this.

I mean, it's kind of disturbing and disgusting to my sensibilities, but if two people want to... who are we to stop them.

So I am confused.

Am I still allowed to fap to House of Yes, Sister my Sister/Murderous Maids and Spanking the Monkey?

Switzerland?

All the better to perpetuate those close-knit family financial dynasties.

3-Jane Tessier-Ashpool approves.

oldebayer: If Eve was made out of Adam's rib, wasn't he basically farking himself?

Ribbed for his pleasure.

calbert:
...like it is fresh and new

Just like some user accounts? It is possible that a good number of people never saw the prior headline and just find this particular iteration humorous.

Perhaps you just have a special interest in incest and all incest headlines have found a special place in your heart and mind, remembered forever like that time that your cousin sally-mae kissed you under the mistle-toe.

Considering a law allowing consensual incest but charging people for "Sex by Surprise?"

The Swiss are retards.

downpaymentblues: According to a 2007 report by the Max Planck Institute (via WRS), China, France, Israel, the Ivory Coast, the Netherlands, Russia, Spain and Turkey do not have any prohibitions on consensual incest between adults.

Sometimes you learn new things that you just would rather not have learned.

Since I'm living in Turkey, getting a kick out of this

/no relatives here, relax

Testiculus: Since I'm living in Turkey, getting a kick out of this

I live right near Turkey too - Berlins only an hour away.

SoothinglyDeranged: Yeah, but that goes back to the whole "if you had sex with a clone of yourself would it be incest or masturbation?" debate.

It's called clonecest and was a major part of the Star Wars saga until George Lucas' brother edited the script.