I'm gonna go ahead with a laundry list so everyone can skip the thread:

1) The games take way too long
2) The games are boring to watch on TV
3) The season lasts 162 games, so only the playoffs mean anything
4) Tickets are too expensive
5) People would literally watch any other sport on TV
6) Beers too expensive at the stadium
7) Bud Selig and MLB hate black people
8) George W hates black people
9) Lebron took his talents to South Beach
10) There is minimal revenue sharing
11) There's no salary cap
12) It's still boring

Fark that. Shake hands when the season is over -- maybe.

redmid17: I'm gonna go ahead with a laundry list so everyone can skip the thread:

1) The games take way too long
2) The games are boring to watch on TV
3) The season lasts 162 games, so only the playoffs mean anything
4) Tickets are too expensive
5) People would literally watch any other sport on TV
6) Beers too expensive at the stadium
7) Bud Selig and MLB hate black people
8) George W hates black people
9) Lebron took his talents to South Beach
10) There is minimal revenue sharing
11) There's no salary cap
12) It's still boring


Good list.


jimpoz: chevydeuce: I don't know that it's a written rule, but I know there is at least an unspoken edict from MLB that they don't want the teams "fraternizing" with each other, so as to avoid any perceptions of the games being fixed.....Black Sox scandal relic maybe?

3.09 Players in uniform shall not address or mingle with spectators, nor sit in the stands before, during, or after a game. No manager, coach or player shall address any spectator before or during a game. Players of opposing teams shall not fraternize at any time while in uniform.


WTF do they do when they get on base???

ZMOG!!! EVERY WORLD SERIES IS TAINTED!!!

SFSailor: Hardy-r-r: 13. Just checked again. Yep, still boring.

< rant mode: ON >

If you find something boring, that's because you're ignorant. It's ok to be ignorant, but your ignorance does not mean the subject is boring; it does mean, however, that your opinion is worthless.

Formula One, opera, NASCAR, football, symphonies, the other football, wine, basketball, beer, baseball, gardening, you name it: If you're ignorant of their details, they'll be boring. Whatever you find interesting, someone else will find boring. If, though, that other person is open-minded enough to learn the subtleties, intricacies and background of your interest, it will cease to be boring.

Why "I find it boring, so it's boring" infects baseball (and Formula One, come to think of it) threads as socially acceptable, and maybe even the majority position, is beyond me. Of course, it does serve as a handy marker of people who find willful ignorance, and opinions built in its vacuum, acceptable.

I find basketball, for example, more boring than watching paint dry (which can be very interesting, come to think of it), but I know that's because I don't care enough to learn more about it. Further, I have no delusion that my opinion on the sport has any merit, as it is fundamentally uninformed.

/ can't wait for Spring, and not just cuz it's only 30* right now

You didn't turn rant mode off. I was an avid baseball follower when I was younger. I could watch my team lose 20-0 and still pay attention. As I got older, I realized that baseball is boring. I can still quote you the rules, relevant strategies, and a lot of the players. Baseball is by far the most static team sport popular in the US. That might be due to the way it's televised though.

For example: In football, you can almost always see all 22 of the players on the field. That lets you analyze the formation, pre-snap movement, defensive posturing, and a litany of other adjustments. You can predict what is going to happen and can cheer while multiple players do things at once.

In baseball, you more or less see the ump, batter, catcher, and pitcher at a slightly off straight angle. Since you don't have depth perception, you can only partially judge a ball or strike. You can only assume based on the batter what type of adjustments the fielders might make. Any action after the swing is still centered on the batters box or to one, maybe two, of the fielders. While each player rotates toward their assigned position, you get interaction between at most 3 players. That and the propensity of a lot of players to take upwards of 45 seconds in between pitches is maddening. Football is like that to an extent, but at least you can analyze other aspects of the game while you wait for the snap.

Face, people find baseball boring for good reason. Not everyone might be able to enumerate or explain it very well, but that doesn't mean they are wrong.

redmid17: For example: In football, you can almost always see all 22 of the players on the field. That lets you analyze the formation, pre-snap movement, defensive posturing, and a litany of other adjustments. You can predict what is going to happen and can cheer while multiple players do things at once.

Football has problems with camera angles too, though. You almost never get what's going on in the secondary even after the ball is snapped, unless they show a replay. That's why I like when the analysts break out the slow-mo and yellow pen, because it's the only time you get to see how corners and safeties make adjustments and the different kinds of coverage.

kukukupo: Baseball is fine. It is by far and away the best sport to see live (only exception is maybe hockey) and it is easily the most affordable to see live (in general).

This. I go to multiple Jays games a year. They're not the best team, but being at a baseball game is one of the great summer experiences.

Mr. Chainsaw: redmid17: For example: In football, you can almost always see all 22 of the players on the field. That lets you analyze the formation, pre-snap movement, defensive posturing, and a litany of other adjustments. You can predict what is going to happen and can cheer while multiple players do things at once.

Football has problems with camera angles too, though. You almost never get what's going on in the secondary even after the ball is snapped, unless they show a replay. That's why I like when the analysts break out the slow-mo and yellow pen, because it's the only time you get to see how corners and safeties make adjustments and the different kinds of coverage.

The first time I ever went to an NFL game (which was shockingly recent), my seats were behind the end zone and up high. Aside from the freezing cold, it was incredible. So much easier to see what was going on and how the plays were developing. The only problem was when the action was on the other side of the field.

Daniels: redmid17: For example: In football, you can almost always see all 22 of the players on the field. That lets you analyze the formation, pre-snap movement, defensive posturing, and a litany of other adjustments. You can predict what is going to happen and can cheer while multiple players do things at once.

So, what you're saying is that you're far more tuned in to the details of football than the details of baseball... and therefore find it more exciting?

Do me a favor and explain the intricate details of formations and pre-snap movement to someone who is borderline into football and time how long it takes for their eyes to glaze over.

No I'm saying you see a lot more of the action when you watch football, ergo it's more interesting. I like watching baseball live. It's not very interesting on TV.

PghThermal: redmid17: I'm gonna go ahead with a laundry list so everyone can skip the thread:

1) The games take way too long - not if you know what's going on
2) The games are boring to watch on TV - see above
3) The season lasts 162 games, so only the playoffs mean anything - NFL on any given Sunday etc - MLB on any DAY
4) Tickets are too expensive not compared to NHL or NFL. NBA ??
5) People would literally watch any other sport on TV PEOPLE ?? over generalization sheesh
6) Beers too expensive at the stadium I don't drink beer
7) Bud Selig and MLB hate black people troll
8) George W hates black people bad troll
9) Lebron took his talents to South Beachirrelavent
10) There is minimal revenue sharing +1
11) There's no salary cap +2
12) It's still boring no one keeps a scorecard anymore

The list was satire. I'm glad to see public school educations haven't dropped off since I graduated. I'd have figured the Lebron and GW comments would have tipped you off. Although I think #3 is very legitimate. You can easily tank a game here or there on purpose and it doesn't mean anything. Same with the NBA or NCAA ball. It's harder to do that with football, college or pro.

Gunny Highway: Gunny Highway: I enjoy baseball. Stare out the window all winter waiting for spring.

Are you in high school?

You're supposed to log into your alt before you make fun of yourself.

SFSailor: If you find something boring, that's because you're ignorant. It's ok to be ignorant, but your ignorance does not mean the subject is boring; it does mean, however, that your opinion is worthless.

And I just thought of this too. Just because you find something boring doesn't mean you are ignorant on the subject. I played varsity and club volleyball in HS primarily because I was good at it. I played club volleyball in college. I don't enjoy watching it on TV, male or female (beach female excepting), and I don't particularly care for watching it live unless I know many of the people playing. I know more about volleyball than almost anyone watching it and a lot of people who played it (aka the details), and I still find it boring to watch.

PghThermal: redmid17: Daniels: redmid17: For example: In football, you can almost always see all 22 of the players on the field. That lets you analyze the formation, pre-snap movement, defensive posturing, and a litany of other adjustments. You can predict what is going to happen and can cheer while multiple players do things at once.

So, what you're saying is that you're far more tuned in to the details of football than the details of baseball... and therefore find it more exciting?

Do me a favor and explain the intricate details of formations and pre-snap movement to someone who is borderline into football and time how long it takes for their eyes to glaze over.

No I'm saying you see a lot more of the action when you watch football, ergo it's more interesting. I like watching baseball live. It's not very interesting on TV.

PghThermal: redmid17: I'm gonna go ahead with a laundry list so everyone can skip the thread:

1) The games take way too long - not if you know what's going on
2) The games are boring to watch on TV - see above
3) The season lasts 162 games, so only the playoffs mean anything - NFL on any given Sunday etc - MLB on any DAY
4) Tickets are too expensive not compared to NHL or NFL. NBA ??
5) People would literally watch any other sport on TV PEOPLE ?? over generalization sheesh
6) Beers too expensive at the stadium I don't drink beer
7) Bud Selig and MLB hate black people troll
8) George W hates black people bad troll
9) Lebron took his talents to South Beachirrelavent
10) There is minimal revenue sharing +1
11) There's no salary cap +2
12) It's still boring no one keeps a scorecard anymore

The list was satire. I'm glad to see public school educations haven't dropped off since I graduated. I'd have figured the Lebron and GW comments would have tipped you off. Although I think #3 is very legitimate. You can easily tank a game here or there on purpose and it doesn't mean anything. Same with the NBA or NCAA ball. It's harder to do that with football, college or pro.

I'm from Pittsburgh - and you take my baseball comments seriously ?? Shame on you

Your location says Dayton. There was no way to know. My best friend was born in Pittsburgh. If it makes you feel any better, I rarely listen to what he has to say about anything.

Gunny Highway: redmid17: Gunny Highway: Gunny Highway: I enjoy baseball. Stare out the window all winter waiting for spring.

Are you in high school?

You're supposed to log into your alt before you make fun of yourself.

Whoops haha. Quoted the wrong person.

Did you mean to quote Rogers Hornsby?
"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do: I stare out the window and wait for spring."

Gunny Highway: I enjoy baseball. Stare out the window all winter waiting for spring.

I couldn't agree more. I'd watch (and play) baseball year round, if I could. My 9-year-old nephew just had his season ending baseball tournament last weekend, here in Arizona. I wish I had that option when I was a kid. He'll be a baseball fan and player for life, and I'm happy for that. Baseball doesn't display well on television, (just like hockey) but in person it's magnificent (unlike football). I'm counting the days until pitchers and catchers report.

fastbow: redmid17:

The list was satire. I'm glad to see public school educations haven't dropped off since I graduated. I'd have figured the Lebron and GW comments would have tipped you off. Although I think #3 is very legitimate. You can easily tank a game here or there on purpose and it doesn't mean anything. Same with the NBA or NCAA ball. It's harder to do that with football, college or pro.

You know how I know you're an idiot?

My team has lost two games this year. If we lose another, bye bye at-large. There's a WHOLE HELL OF A LOT more to college basketball than what you see on ESPN.

Jackass.

Butthurt much? I see you're in Kansas. I'm assuming you don't attend the fake UK or Kansas State. That probably means you're a small school or a mid-major in a non-automatic bid conference. If you're worried about losing an at-large bid, it's probably because your conference sucks, your team isn't very good, and is playing a schedule which is too tough. How am I supposed to fix that? The NIT exists for a reason. Good college basketball teams like Duke, Kansas, or even a borderline team like Northwestern or UNC can afford losses here and there. Teams routinely get into the tourney at .500 or slightly better. I can tailor my Fark sports post to obscure, minor conference schools who can't afford to lose 3 non-conference games. If your school is playing in a shiatty conference, you get what you play for.