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(InfoWeek)   Avast, ye mateys. Adobe to crack down on Photoshop pirates with online activation. AARRRRR.   ( ) divider line
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11618 clicks; posted to Main » on 06 Jul 2003 at 7:57 PM (13 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2003-07-06 12:52:34 PM  
Great idea until there is a keygen made.
2003-07-06 12:58:14 PM  
Or just keep using the version that you currently have...
2003-07-06 01:14:08 PM  
Yeah, I'll keep using the version I currently have. Of course, I paid for mine. :) However this is asinine; PS 8 better come complete with big boobies and a BJ if I have to go through an online activation for upgrade.
2003-07-06 01:17:04 PM  
If they wouldn't charge so goddamn much for it, maybe there wouldn't be quite as much piracy.
2003-07-06 01:28:21 PM  
This is good news. More people using the GIMP will make for more incentive to improve the user interface. Why GIMP? Because you can't steal it even if you try.
2003-07-06 01:30:35 PM  
I guess I'll just keep using Photoshop 4.
2003-07-06 02:17:51 PM  
Heh I'll stick with 7 then.....
2003-07-06 03:12:46 PM  
"Yar, it drives me nuts"
2003-07-06 03:26:33 PM  
The GIMP is one step above MS Paint.
2003-07-06 03:29:20 PM  
One real BIG step, maybe.
2003-07-06 04:01:51 PM  
Yarrgh. I hope with the new version I can download some talent for my photoshops.

[Parrot sqwawk]
2003-07-06 04:21:11 PM  
What is better than GIMP for your Linux box? I would really like to know.
2003-07-06 04:26:04 PM  
2003-07-06 04:21:11 PM Pending

What is better than GIMP for your Linux box? I would really like to know.

Photoshop running under Codeweavers Crossover Office. Best $50 I ever spent.
2003-07-06 04:39:11 PM  
thank god, maybe if every brain dead monkey on the internet can't get free PS, then FARK contests won't suck so bad.
(After they're opened to non-TF'ers, that is)
2003-07-06 04:46:24 PM  
well this is a nice thing for adobe to feel um ... nice about, but seeing as the installed version of photoshop is less than what fits on a cd ...

anyway, i have been a registered, authorized user of photoshop since like 1999 so bite me pir@tes.
2003-07-06 05:03:59 PM  
2003-07-06 05:13:31 PM  
how much do they charge for that? isn't it like $400? stupid.
2003-07-06 05:25:59 PM  
Hell all Adobe software is so easy to pirate (well steal off Kazaa) Adobe Font Folio $9,000 US is available on Kazaa ... not that I condone pirating software ;-)
2003-07-06 05:28:20 PM  
If all you are doing with it is Fark contests Paint Shop Pro works just as well , especially PSP8. It's all I use, normally.
2003-07-06 06:30:11 PM  
"Larger businesses that sign enterprise contracts won't have to deal with the new process. That's because online activation can be an added burden in already complex IT environments, and because most companies don't intentionally misappropriate software anyway, says McManus."

Well, that's that, then. We'll all just wait for one guy to make an Alcohol 120% image of his corporate version, and the rest of the free world will go back to 'shopping for free.
2003-07-06 07:46:23 PM  
So what? I'm sure there's a way around it, there always is. A piece of software I *ahem* borrowed from a friend had an arduous online registration process that was circumvented simply by removing the ethernet plug and turning off the wireless. Not a biggie.

This'll be cracked within twenty minutes of release and they know it, they're just trying to make their shareholders feel better.
2003-07-06 08:02:52 PM  
Gimp is good enough. I'm no artist, so I won't pretend to be one by saying I use photoshop even though I have no clue how to use 80% of the stuff. Even the Gimp has tools I don't know how to use.
2003-07-06 08:02:58 PM  
Wouldn't it be great if Adobe and the RIAA merged?
2003-07-06 08:03:57 PM  
Can we have a PS contest of the ways Adobe execs will kill themselves when they find out the activation has been cracked and does not stop piracy ?
2003-07-06 08:05:15 PM  
I'm one up on Adobe anyway, I can turn anything I can print into a PDF. I know Macs do this, but it's nice to be able to do it with a free OS on relatively cheap hardware.
2003-07-06 08:05:41 PM  
Photoshop is fun, but I still have to go with the Fireworks. I think it is cheaper. But I bought Studio, so I don't know. And I haven't purchased a new Photoshop since 5.5.
2003-07-06 08:07:42 PM  
Photoshop is really designed for doing very complicated work, and some people do that here on Fark, but I don't think those who do that kind of stuff are the ones saying its overpriced. If you just want to stick Mustard Guy into the latest contest image, then Photoshop is a waste of money for you. There are plenty of free programs that will let you do that level of stuff. So PS is really just over-priced if you don't use all it has to offer.
2003-07-06 08:13:27 PM  
God damn it, now my bootleg version won't work....
2003-07-06 08:13:58 PM  
True dat, I use it daily for work and I still barely scratch the surface. It's like buying a Ferrari and biatching about how expensive cars are getting.
2003-07-06 08:17:20 PM  
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2003-07-06 08:17:35 PM  
one more reason to use linux...
2003-07-06 08:19:46 PM  
It's already been mentioned here before, but it's true: the reason so many people pirate Adobe software, especially Photoshop and Premiere, is that they are gouging the hell out of us on the prices. The full version of Photoshop 7 can be made to fit in well under 200MB, but they want US$609 for it according to their website. Who in their right mind is going to pay $609 when they can download a free demo and then just apply a patch... honestly, they need to lower prices, not increase piracy protection. Even if they make it impossible to crack, they'll probably find that sales stay exactly the same, except that they wasted a lot of money and effort fighting piracy...
2003-07-06 08:22:09 PM  
Prices from the manufacturer's websites:

Adobe Photoshop: $609.00
JASC Paint Shop Pro: $109.00

Now, I'll readily admit that Photoshop is much better than PSP. However, you can't tell me that it's $500 dolloars worth of "better." You can't tell me that development costs and overhead on Photoshop were so much higher than the costs to develop PSP that a $500 difference in price was necessary to offset that expense.

Considering that Adobe owns the market, they could certainly afford a drastic decrease in price while still maintaining a tremendous profit margin.

Once again, if companies weren't overvaluing and inflating their prices beyond the reach of the average consumer, they might find people would be more inclined to pirate their products.

The problem is their pricing structure is aimed at the business user market, and they can't very well charge individuals $100 and then turn around and sell an ad agency the same product for $600...

Fine, I understand that. I think they should just turn a blind eye to piracy by individuals/home users. I believe their efforts to restrict it will be more costly than any profits they will reap from that segment of the market.
2003-07-06 08:24:13 PM  
Well shiver me timbers! I guess I be looting the Best Buys from nows on.
2003-07-06 08:25:26 PM  
Haven't they learned from the Microsoft debacle?
2003-07-06 08:26:57 PM  
i think i'll delete my version of Photoshop and pirate a new one after this just to feel like im pissing all over the Fatcat Adobe execs. i guarantee you it isnt the programmers that demand 500$ a friggin package.
2003-07-06 08:28:46 PM  
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they'll never land their grubby mitts on the Chrystal Coconut...Arrrrrh!
2003-07-06 08:29:51 PM

free, and Free too. Even runs on Windows.
2003-07-06 08:32:42 PM  
Great, now the consumer verson will be full of problems,

while everyone else pirates the corprate verson!

Way to go Adobe.

(oh yeah, I use pixia)
2003-07-06 08:33:22 PM  
PSP here. Sometimes free, sometimes not.
2003-07-06 08:34:09 PM  
So.. as soon as they activate this, adobe will realize they have 1 actual paying customer on the whole planet, the rest pirate photoshop.

The gimp shall takeover!
2003-07-06 08:34:17 PM  
gimp...bleh. I've tried it...and don't intend to try it ever again.

I use photoshop...and I'll admit my copy at home isn't entirely legal. It was alegally purchased's just been installed on two computers now, not just one.

And somehow I doubt they'll truly manage to crack down on pirating.
2003-07-06 08:34:37 PM  
nihil8r you gimp! The world needs authorized users like yourself. Now make an authorized appointment with an authorized prostitute to get authorized laid.
2003-07-06 08:35:20 PM  
GIMP is a free, open source, desktop, pixel-based, image manipulation and editing program. It looks and feels much like Adobe Photoshop (GIMP = GNU Image Manipulation Program).

Originally, GIMP was a Linux/UNIX program. However, it has been ported to the Microsoft Windows platform -- that effectively makes GIMP a cross-platform (XP) program.

There are desktop, user interface (UI), differences with GIMP that take some getting use to if you already are familiar with PhotoShop. GIMP does not have all the advanced, commercial, pre-press features that PhotoShop does have. GIMP, however, comes pretty close to PhotoShop with actual photo editing and manipulation.
2003-07-06 08:37:34 PM  
Yup, punkennedys is still a freaking moron. Glad nothing has changed since last night.

That is the most ridiculous mindset i've ever witnessed. That's like saying that you are going to go steal yourself a new car from the fatcat auto companies because by damn, it sure isn't the factory worker demanding 20 large.

You know people, if you can't afford something, stealing doesn't necessarily make it right. There are cheaper alternatives like psp. I saved and bought myself a copy of PS7, as well as all of the other software on my Mac, sure things are out there for me to download if I want, but in the end, because of people like me buying the software, companies stay in business so that people like you can steal it.
2003-07-06 08:38:34 PM  
I've used the GIMP for I think three years now, and there's absolutely no way it can compare with Photoshop. The interface is absolutely horrible; too many floating palette windows are a nightmare to manage. And there are small things that just make it a pain to use, like the illogical keyboard-to-tool shortcuts (when they're even present) and the fact that you get a generic crosshair for every single paintbrush, with no way to tell if the current brush is an appropriate size.<br><br>That's not to say I hate the GIMP, I just think it's a looooong way from being able to compete with PS/PSP.
2003-07-06 08:40:55 PM  
and let's just ignore the fact that I'm an idiot and disabled the HTML-in-post feature, which is on by default, even though I did in fact have HTML in my post...
2003-07-06 08:44:48 PM  
I steal all the ladies' hearts, cuz they charge too much downtown.
2003-07-06 08:44:55 PM  
Oh, yeah, corporate version. That worked real well for WinXP. I remember at the school computer lab I knew more about it than the (well-)paid staff, mostly because I had been using it for three months before the home release happened.

I do like the GIMP - unfortunately my Linux machine is only a laptop and I refuse to do graphics on a laptop, and with Photoshop 7 on the Windows machine, I never bothered. Probably still won't, seeing as my brother works for a graphic designer.
2003-07-06 08:46:28 PM  
> Great idea until there is a keygen made.

It said in the article that it would the serial number in a database against ones that were being misused, which I guess would mean being used twice. I would think this would limit the usefulness of a keygen.
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