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Coelacanth		2010-12-06 07:02:13 PM

Climate deniers won't admit anything is wrong until Australia disappears.

Elvis_Bogart		2010-12-06 07:37:40 PM

Link

Sleeping Monkey		2010-12-06 08:32:20 PM

Isolated incident.

GAT_00		2010-12-06 08:42:19 PM

Elvis_Bogart: Link

To Warmers, the Daily Fail is high science.

nekom		2010-12-06 08:48:56 PM

Sleeping Monkey: Isolated incident.

Overzealous ocean. Non-story.

AverageAmericanGuy		2010-12-06 08:54:17 PM

It's amazing how global warming is making the oceans rise only in the middle of the Pacific where erosion typically plays the most important role in the disappearance of land.

Maybe they should invoke marshall law and get everyone moved to another atoll.

stirfrybry		2010-12-06 08:55:24 PM

Coelacanth: Climate deniers won't admit anything is wrong until Australia disappears.

LOL warmers make laugh

learn some stats

Bullroarer_Took		2010-12-06 08:59:10 PM

Simple solution: Agree to take the world's solid waste. Charge people to dump there. Once a year erect 1000 foot towers (each topped with a nuke) in a ring around the island, evacuate everyone, and simultaneously set off the bombs. This will fuse the garbage together--allowing them to grow their island to a height where they will not be affected by the waves.

Next.

FarKnight		2010-12-06 09:01:10 PM

I am sure islands have never been created nor destroyed in Earth's history.

olddinosaur		2010-12-06 09:05:22 PM

Hogwash.

I have lived 500 yards from the ocean for 36 years and the seas haven't risen at all in that time.

Some land has subsided, but since we are living over a natural gas field where they have been pumping for 50 years,
that does not surprise me.

If you can't show me 1/16 inch in 35 years, don't try to tell me the oceans will rise 35 feet in the next 110 years.

You're dumb enough to believe that, I know a hot African chick with big tits and $16 million she would like to stash in your bank account.

She's at partzento

liamtoh

com and she is really pissed at me, ever since I told her to wait at the end of the runway at 3 AM with the money in a suitcase, and I would swoop down to pick her up.

vudukungfu		2010-12-06 09:05:46 PM

I just shoveled 10" of global warming from my driveway, so I'm geting a backache from these replies.

Sloth_DC		2010-12-06 09:07:24 PM

Coelacanth: Climate deniers won't admit anything is wrong until Australia disappears.

There are people who deny the existence of the climate?

Fano		2010-12-06 09:08:25 PM

Coelacanth: Climate deniers won't admit anything is wrong until Australia disappears.

Pshaw. Continents float, according to plate tectonics. So a continent cannot get deluged with water. Now islands and such are connected to the sea floor and can thus be submerged - like the Maldives and Lemuria.

blwhite		2010-12-06 09:09:44 PM

Is the water rising, or......is the island sinking?

olddinosaur		2010-12-06 09:16:21 PM

vudukungfu: I just shoveled 10" of global warming from my driveway, so I'm geting a backache from these replies.

YOU WIN THE THREAD.

ha-ha-guy		2010-12-06 09:17:28 PM

Umh while not trying to deny global warming, that whole ground water thing made me curious. They mentioned their wells going dry and having to desalinate the water they got from drilling. Would this also trigger a vegetation die off (plants tend to like fresh water not salt water) and its own host of erosion problems?

Gleeman		2010-12-06 09:20:10 PM

So climate threads are this week's Wampler threads?

savage henry		2010-12-06 09:23:04 PM

olddinosaur:

Wow that's a lot of Stupid for one post.

olddinosaur		2010-12-06 09:24:23 PM

ha-ha-guy: Umh while not trying to deny global warming, that whole ground water thing made me curious. They mentioned their wells going dry and having to desalinate the water they got from drilling. Would this also trigger a vegetation die off (plants tend to like fresh water not salt water) and its own host of erosion problems?

Islands in the Pacific rise and sink at the rate of a fraction of an inch a year, and have always done so. The instability of the earth's crust assures that.

California is sinking at the rate of 6 inches a year, has done so for centuries; no one asserts the ocean's rise causes it.

Fireproof		2010-12-06 09:29:02 PM

olddinosaur: I have lived 500 yards from the ocean for 36 years and the seas haven't risen at all in that time.

Not sure if serious...

At the risk of feeding an obvious troll, I doubt you even live near the ocean.

Given how there's such a big difference between high and low tides, extreme high tides and extreme low tides, and even between each farking wave, anyone who claims that they would be able to personally notice a 1/16th of an inch change in sea level over 36 years with the naked eye is just plain full of BS.

Bullroarer_Took		2010-12-06 09:30:03 PM

olddinosaur: ha-ha-guy: Umh while not trying to deny global warming, that whole ground water thing made me curious. They mentioned their wells going dry and having to desalinate the water they got from drilling. Would this also trigger a vegetation die off (plants tend to like fresh water not salt water) and its own host of erosion problems?

Islands in the Pacific rise and sink at the rate of a fraction of an inch a year, and have always done so. The instability of the earth's crust assures that.

California is sinking at the rate of 6 inches a year, has done so for centuries; no one asserts the ocean's rise causes it.

I thought it was 8".

APE992		2010-12-06 09:38:25 PM

Bullroarer_Took: olddinosaur: ha-ha-guy: Umh while not trying to deny global warming, that whole ground water thing made me curious. They mentioned their wells going dry and having to desalinate the water they got from drilling. Would this also trigger a vegetation die off (plants tend to like fresh water not salt water) and its own host of erosion problems?

Islands in the Pacific rise and sink at the rate of a fraction of an inch a year, and have always done so. The instability of the earth's crust assures that.

California is sinking at the rate of 6 inches a year, has done so for centuries; no one asserts the ocean's rise causes it.

I thought it was 8".

Neither, because the Pacific plate is being subducted under Japan and is busy pushing San Francisco up north to Alaska.

It has not and never will "sink into the ocean".

Sky21Dancer		2010-12-06 09:39:37 PM

The island is either being eroded from the top or sinking. Person up there has it right. Why just the Marshall's and not, say, Guam or Midway or Wake?

SoxSweepAgain		2010-12-06 09:42:00 PM

GORDON		2010-12-06 09:54:39 PM

Coelacanth: Climate deniers won't admit anything is wrong until Australia disappears.

And climate change zealots have never heard of natural erosion.

AverageAmericanGuy		2010-12-06 09:55:08 PM

Sky21Dancer: The island is either being eroded from the top or sinking. Person up there has it right. Why just the Marshall's and not, say, Guam or Midway or Wake?

Talofofo Beach has been inundated almost all the way to the road last time I visited Guam. It used to be a cool place to picnic and body board, but now it is just a hazard.

But yeah, it's just erosion.

Fireproof		2010-12-06 09:55:11 PM

Sky21Dancer: The island is either being eroded from the top or sinking. Person up there has it right. Why just the Marshall's and not, say, Guam or Midway or Wake?

Didn't Farkers say the same thing when we had this exact same story on islands in Kiribati?

/Just got back from two years in the South Pacific, so I am really getting a kick out of some of these replies

cirby		2010-12-06 09:56:19 PM

SoxSweepAgain:
Are the glaciers also melting because of subversion and plate tectonics?

No, they're melting each spring and summer as they always have. Temperatures at the main bodies of glaciers have not increased enough to cause any extra melting - or at all, in most cases.

The problem is that, due to less precipitation over the last few decades, they're not getting that water replenished each winter as snow. Which is a puzzle, because one of the long-standing predictions of the AGW folks is that humidity WILL rise, we'll get more precipitation, et bloody cetera.

So the "new" AGW theory is that increased heat causes LESS relative humidity, with less water vapor in the air. Which is a paradox, since the foundation of AGW theory is that the small increase in temps caused by CO2 will cause an increase in humidity, causing about ten times as much greenhouse effect as the CO2 can on its own. No extra water vapor, no AGW.

Bullroarer_Took		2010-12-06 09:57:40 PM

APE992: Bullroarer_Took: olddinosaur: ha-ha-guy: Umh while not trying to deny global warming, that whole ground water thing made me curious. They mentioned their wells going dry and having to desalinate the water they got from drilling. Would this also trigger a vegetation die off (plants tend to like fresh water not salt water) and its own host of erosion problems?

Islands in the Pacific rise and sink at the rate of a fraction of an inch a year, and have always done so. The instability of the earth's crust assures that.

California is sinking at the rate of 6 inches a year, has done so for centuries; no one asserts the ocean's rise causes it.

I thought it was 8".

Neither, because the Pacific plate is being subducted under Japan and is busy pushing San Francisco up north to Alaska.

It has not and never will "sink into the ocean".

Was kidding...

LouDobbsAwaaaay		2010-12-06 10:04:38 PM

Yikes. The religion of climate change denialism will not be denied, apparently. I guess the Fark AGW deniers have decided to add a geology PhD to their rapidly expanding list of credentials? You should be publishing a paper a week in every geoscience journal on Earth at this point.

DesertDemonWY		2010-12-06 10:11:23 PM

SoxSweepAgain: How would you explain the Arctic Ice Cap

It is an icy region above the 66th latitude, but thats not important right now

AcneVulgaris		2010-12-06 10:12:04 PM

This is not global warming. It's all the trash being dumped into the ocean.

Day_Old_Dutchie		2010-12-06 10:12:59 PM

Seems like those folks on the Marshall Islands need some sort of plan.

Links		2010-12-06 10:17:28 PM

Merry Kiritimati

fanbladesaresharp		2010-12-06 10:23:21 PM

olddinosaur: vudukungfu: I just shoveled 10" of global warming from my driveway, so I'm geting a backache from these replies.

YOU WIN THE THREAD.

I can just see it happening. Taking 2 minute breaks when shovelling to refresh the Fark thread on their smart phone.

Fireproof		2010-12-06 10:26:10 PM

All climate change discussion aside, TFA does raise some interesting questions about what would happen if a nation were to cease to physically exist.

Would they still get a UN seat? Fishing rights? Mining rights? Would they get to retain their citizenship?

AverageAmericanGuy		2010-12-06 10:27:49 PM

Links: Merry Kiritimati

Not so widely known, but the phonetic "s" is spelled "ti" out there.

KarmicDisaster		2010-12-06 10:31:25 PM

Day_Old_Dutchie: Seems like those folks on the Marshall Islands need some sort of plan.

Yes, if only they could get their resources together and beat this, somehow gather or concentrate them.

vudukungfu		2010-12-06 10:33:33 PM

fanbladesaresharp:
I can just see it happening. Taking 2 minute breaks when shovelling to refresh the Fark thread on their smart phone.

Two 20 minute goes at it and one 10 minute break.
/no smart phone
//no cell phone
//no tee vee

Smug, sweaty, but in shape.

djkutch		2010-12-06 10:35:22 PM

Fano		2010-12-06 10:37:54 PM

cryinoutloud		2010-12-06 10:38:19 PM

Fireproof: All climate change discussion aside, TFA does raise some interesting questions about what would happen if a nation were to cease to physically exist.
Would they still get a UN seat? Fishing rights? Mining rights? Would they get to retain their citizenship?

They don't get SH*T. They're gone and they never existed. Like Atlantis--just like all those other "OMG, global warming is going to kill us!" farkers who are going to be blown off the face of the earth if they don't shut their whore mouths. You don't even talk about that.

BlippityBleep		2010-12-06 10:39:29 PM

olddinosaur: I have lived 500 yards from the ocean for 36 years and the seas haven't risen at all in that time.

:-|

CygnusDarius		2010-12-06 10:40:36 PM

Rising sea levels may do to the Marshall Islands what dozens of nuclear bomb tests failed to

Awaken Godzilla?.

elins'9iron		2010-12-06 10:41:05 PM

O.K. My frat brothers from the '70s and I just had a reunion at Cancun and took a ceremonial piss in the ocean. Sorry.

KidneyStone		2010-12-06 10:41:27 PM

Fireproof: All climate change discussion aside, TFA does raise some interesting questions about what would happen if a nation were to cease to physically exist.

Would they still get a UN seat? Fishing rights? Mining rights? Would they get to retain their citizenship?

Well....they called lawyers first so I reckon they're gonna sue someone. Thankfully China has deeper pockets these days so they'll go after them instead of the US.

brantgoose		2010-12-06 10:43:29 PM

Elvis_Bogart: Link

What happened to the prediction of the warmest year on record is that, as anticipated by many climatologists, a la Nina formed in the Pacific Ocean.

After a record warm January, February, March, April, May, June, July, August, September, October, and very warm November, the year came very close to the warmest on record and more or less tied with the second warmest on record.

Thus the three warmest years on record are now 2005, 1998 and 2010. Thanks to that wonderful mini ice age that we are in now (see the Stunned or the Daily Fail for details).

Meanwhile, due to the la Nina, cold East winds are blowing over the UK and floods are happening in Eastern Europe. These are typical of la Nina years, although Europe is one of the places where the climate varies more in la Nina years, sometimes being exceptionally cold and wet, sometimes not.

Thanks for asking. Thanks for the link, although I've seen it already.

brantgoose		2010-12-06 10:44:34 PM

GAT_00: Elvis_Bogart: Link

To Warmers, the Daily Fail is high science.

No, merely high comedy. Well, low comedy.

elins'9iron		2010-12-06 10:44:45 PM

KidneyStone: Fireproof: All climate change discussion aside, TFA does raise some interesting questions about what would happen if a nation were to cease to physically exist.

Would they still get a UN seat? Fishing rights? Mining rights? Would they get to retain their citizenship?

Well....they called lawyers first so I reckon they're gonna sue someone. Thankfully China has deeper pockets these days so they'll go after them instead of the US.
China doesn't have deeper pockets. They're midgets. Captain Kangaroo, now those are some deep pockets.