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(The New York Times)   Mom who proclaimed "My son is gay" and posted a picture of him on her blog is "flabbergasted" when told that she outed him: "He's 5 years old. He's made no sexual conscious choice"   (well.blogs.nytimes.com) divider line 198
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2010-12-04 04:30:51 AM  
AverageAmericanGuy: gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy: firefly212: AverageAmericanGuy:

LOL. True. true.

Dude, he's mocking YOU.

You truly can't let it go that you've been called out as an uneducated blowhard. Give it up. We got it. You don't have a degree in child psychology, but you somehow know all about it.

That's fine. Thanks for your opinion (as ignorant and uninformed as it may be)


gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy: firefly212: AverageAmericanGuy:

LOL. True. true.

Dude, he's mocking YOU.


He's definitely trolling you now, just let it be.
 
2010-12-04 04:32:46 AM  
j0ndas: Kids at that age have no concept of sex. The mom is being horribly cruel posting a picture like that and putting the word "gay" anywhere near it.

She was responding to the ignorant concerns of other uptight parents
 
2010-12-04 04:34:42 AM  
Schlock: He's definitely trolling you now, just let it be

I've already hit "ignore". Took him two weeks from "Account Creation" to my Ignore List. Probably some kind of record. I don't mind a bit of trolling, but I like to see some wit in it. That was just repetitive and unamusing.
 
2010-12-04 04:35:22 AM  
gwowen: Meatzilla: you're supposed to over protect your children at that age to a degree

No you're not. If you believe this, you don't (can't) possibly understand what the word "over" means in your sentence.

He's 5. There's no peer chastisement. He doesn't give a crap about your notions of gender appropriate fancy dress. His 5-year-old peers don't give a crap about your notions of gender appropriate fancy dress. He's playing dress up -- quite innocently. Get over it.



Seriously... I wonder if parents even realize how often they fuel ostracism and taunting with their supposed "concern" for taunting and ostracism.

How many parents do think went home and conversations in front of their own 5 year olds (his friends and classmates) that went something like:

"my god, did you see what he was wearing??? What on Earth was his mother thinking letting him go out dressed like that? Sure, he doesn't know any better but she certainly should. That's just begging for other kids to pick on him. And I don't care what anyone says, I'm not close-minded or anything, but that's just not appropriate."

So then, what message does that send to their kids? He did something wrong. He upset my parents. What he did wasn't normal, and normal people should be bothered by it, even angry about it.
 
2010-12-04 04:37:28 AM  
j0ndas: Kids at that age have no concept of sex. The mom is being horribly cruel posting a picture like that and putting the word "gay" anywhere near it.

I actually think her point is right on. But agree her means are sketchy. In this case, though, she's the parent and knows the child best. I'll assume she educating him on dealing with peers and the value of being yourself.
 
2010-12-04 04:37:56 AM  
j0ndas: The mom is being horribly cruel

Not just "cruel", but "horribly cruel". Apparently, you have uncovered a shocking instance of child abuse here, and I am sure you are on the phone with CPS as we speak.
 
2010-12-04 04:41:14 AM  
Hetfield: j0ndas: The mom is being horribly cruel

Not just "cruel", but "horribly cruel". Apparently, you have uncovered a shocking instance of child abuse here, and I am sure you are on the phone with CPS as we speak.


This deserves far more outrage than those Darfur orphans.
 
2010-12-04 04:41:20 AM  
Why is mom plastering her kids all over the internet anyway? Yeah, you post a picture some assholes are going to have a problem with it. Now, when your kid gets older he already has the reputation of being the "maybe gay 5 yr old". They're supposed to plaster themselves all over the internet when they get older.

Parents are so screwing over their kids with this blogging and youtubeing their first poops and stuff. That's appropriately saved for the photo album and special dates.
 
2010-12-04 04:42:01 AM  
Hetfield: Not just "cruel", but "horribly cruel". Apparently, you have uncovered a shocking instance of child abuse here, and I am sure you are on the phone with CPS as we speak

Yeah, but what if the 5-year-old is idly web surfing after a hard day at kindergarten, and comes across his mother's blog, eh?
 
2010-12-04 04:43:18 AM  
Ghastly: Man... my Mom wouldn't let me wear pretty pretty dresses when I was 5. No fair.

Given your risque style, I suspect this had more to do with age rather than gender. ;)
 
2010-12-04 04:47:03 AM  
Heysomefarkingpenguinatemysammich!: This deserves far more outrage than those Darfur orphans.

At least no one is calling them gay. Friggin snowflake Darfur orphans, we're spoiling them.
 
2010-12-04 04:49:29 AM  
cygnusx13: My son is a 4 year old cross dresser and he's getting a kick out of this thread.

He also wonders why his mom doesn't have a peener.

Oh, and he'd like a snack.


That reminds me of when my daughter was 2 years old and walked into the bathroom while I was coming out of the shower and asked "Daddy, what's that" while pointing at my anatomy. I told her it's a penis and she smacked her forehead with the palm of her hand like she had just forgot something obvious and said "Oh yeah, that's right. It's a penis. I used to have one of those but it fell off and mommy flushed it down the toilet."

I stifled a laugh and said "No you didn't, girls don't have penises they have vagina" and she once again smacked her forehead with the palm of her hand and said "Oh yeah, that's right. Boys have penises, girls have bajinas."
 
2010-12-04 04:49:29 AM  
Wow kid. . . either you've got the biggest brass ko-ho-nays this side of the smelting plant or you're mom wanted to see how long it took you to get beat up at school in order to win a fight with her peer group.
 
2010-12-04 04:54:02 AM  
i1202.photobucket.com
 
2010-12-04 05:03:17 AM  
Meh, the kids a big Scooby Doo fan and he picked one of the characters to be for Halloween. Now if he had picked Velma or Fred that might have been worrisome.
 
2010-12-04 05:04:38 AM  
Subby either DNRTFA or DNUnderstandTFA.

Perhaps both.
 
2010-12-04 05:06:06 AM  
CtrlAltDelete: I hate the word "flabbergasted."

Almost as much as I hate the word "gobsmacked."

You can't flabber your gast anymore than you can smack your gob. Don't be silly. Just be "surprised."


Upon hearing these words do you find yourself nonplussed?
 
2010-12-04 05:08:16 AM  
I don't really care if she was making a point, once something gets posted on the Internet it's forever. Her kid is going to get trashed in elementary school. Is it more important to "win" an argument (not that she has in any way...) or to protect your child?
 
2010-12-04 05:10:24 AM  
When I was a kid I was worried about my mom giving me girly clothes. This is weird. More power to him. But I still hate those stupid girly jeans my mom bought me 27 years ago.
 
2010-12-04 05:17:04 AM  
Ghastly, your kids are awesome.
 
2010-12-04 05:27:50 AM  
Too much heavy metal in the kid's diet:

High levels of mecury linked to homosexuality (new window)
 
2010-12-04 05:32:20 AM  
img641.imageshack.us

GIS for "heavy metal kid"
 
2010-12-04 05:34:38 AM  
No this Mom is not only an attention whore she is trying to show how AMAZINGLY PROGRESSIVE she is by letting her son do whatever he wants....At 10 he wants to dress like Daphne from Scooby Doo because he wants to be a girl..THEN FINE..but at 5...she's a self righteous attention whoring biatch. She did it to cause DRAMA and really obviously by how she writes you can tell she needs to be medicated...ANYWAY..
 
2010-12-04 05:45:05 AM  
you know how I know you're gay? because when you were 5 your mom let you dress up as a girl
 
2010-12-04 05:47:09 AM  
Work That Skirt is one of my favorite B-52s songs.....
 
2010-12-04 05:50:22 AM  
do gays dress up like women? I think people are confusing gays and transsexuals. I think those are seperate.

/is it gay if you have sex with a shemale?
 
2010-12-04 05:54:22 AM  
Red Shirt Blues: Meh, the kids a big Scooby Doo fan and he picked one of the characters to be for Halloween. Now if he had picked Velma or Fred that might have been worrisome.

Velma is hot. If I was going to Scoobi Doo cosplay I'd totally crossplay as Velma.
 
2010-12-04 05:56:13 AM  
Meatzilla: (new window)

Yeesh.


Actually, that pic only makes me think that her comment--

And my little man worked that costume like no other. He rocked that wig, and I wouldn't want it any other way.

-- Is correct.
 
2010-12-04 05:58:41 AM  
Ghastly: Red Shirt Blues: Meh, the kids a big Scooby Doo fan and he picked one of the characters to be for Halloween. Now if he had picked Velma or Fred that might have been worrisome.

Velma is hot. If I was going to Scoobi Doo cosplay I'd totally crossplay as Velma.


The pleated skirt is cute and the knee-high socks look great. But can't she do something about that hair? Maybe grow it out a little or cut it into a short bob? It looks like a helmet the way she wears it.
 
2010-12-04 05:58:47 AM  
hasty ambush: Too much heavy metal in the kid's diet:

High levels of mecury linked to homosexuality (new window)


Everyone's gay for Freddy Mercury.
 
2010-12-04 05:58:57 AM  
mahuika: The title of the article was "MY SON IS GAY" and thenthe first line says "...or he's not." and explicitly states he's made no choice. She used it as a joking attention grabber, mocking the parents who were judging her, and if you walked away thinking her son was gay you have the attention span of a goldfish.
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Seriously though, what a worthless article.
 
2010-12-04 06:03:24 AM  
Cup_O_Jo: No this Mom is not only an attention whore she is trying to show how AMAZINGLY PROGRESSIVE she is by letting her son do whatever he wants....At 10 he wants to dress like Daphne from Scooby Doo because he wants to be a girl..THEN FINE..but at 5...she's a self righteous attention whoring biatch. She did it to cause DRAMA and really obviously by how she writes you can tell she needs to be medicated...ANYWAY..

This. There is no reason for blogging about your son wanting to cross-dress for Halloween except to show off how open-minded and accepting you are.

Most boys probably put Mommy's lipstick on and walk around in her high heels at some point when they're young because they have no concept of sexuality or gender roles and are just parroting what their parent does. If my mom had blogged about me at 5, I would be pretty pissed off when I found out about it in my teen years.
 
2010-12-04 06:07:35 AM  
vernonFL: CSB: When I was 5, I would dress in girls clothes and sing Donna Summer songs. My mom thought it was cute.

/1978.


When I was in high school, for the school Halloween dance I dressed up as Marie Antoinette. The theater kids just happened to have an 18th century ladies costume, so I took advantage of it. But when I got to the party, everyone though I was trying to be Zsa Zsa Gabor. I was heart broken.

As for what my Mom thought, she thought I was out of my mind for going out without a coat, as it was very cold that night.

The Mom ITFA seems like a really cool lady, IMO.
 
2010-12-04 06:14:48 AM  
from the article - While the boy's friends liked the pink velvet dress and orange wig costume, some of the mothers at his school expressed disapproval.

Ya see why you don't want to have anything to do with the prudish, anal retentive farks in "the heartland". And as soon as they start having kids they get even worse.

Farking worthless busy-body biatches that could screw up a free lunch and now they are raising a second generation of of the same kind. With any luck the kids natural rebellion mechanism will kick in and they won't end up the same way.
 
2010-12-04 06:20:31 AM  
When you read only the article, the mom comes off as reasonable and intelligent. But after reading her actual blog, I lost all respect for her.

Essentially, she used her son. Literally used him. She had an agenda and whored her son's as yet undefined life-style as a straw man for her own social/political views.

I had some respect for her judging her only by the NY Times article. But it disappeared when I saw how she used that poor kid in her blog post.

F*cking disgusting.
 
2010-12-04 06:25:35 AM  
I'm amused by the fact that her 5 year old son read the situation better than she did.

"No, Mommy, they'll laugh."

"No they won't, sweetheart."
 
2010-12-04 06:31:05 AM  
Ghastly: Man... my Mom wouldn't let me wear pretty pretty dresses when I was 5. No fair.

Join the club Unca Ghastly.

Nowadays i have to shave my legs for dresses. I've lost so much dress time due to the leg shaving issue! I didn't have that at 5.
 
2010-12-04 06:36:36 AM  
The idiot who wrote this fark headline is not as stupid as the idiot that approved the fark headline.

After reading the article, whoever made the fark headline got it ass-backwards.
 
2010-12-04 06:38:37 AM  
The_Pole_Of_Justice:
I'm amused by the fact that her 5 year old son read the situation better than she did.

"No, Mommy, they'll laugh."

"No they won't, sweetheart."


IIRC, according to the article it was other parents that gave them flak, not kids.
 
2010-12-04 06:40:10 AM  
Steam Powered Cat: Ghastly: Man... my Mom wouldn't let me wear pretty pretty dresses when I was 5. No fair.

Join the club Unca Ghastly.

Nowadays i have to shave my legs for dresses. I've lost so much dress time due to the leg shaving issue! I didn't have that at 5.


Well that beats the Indian chicks I've worked with that had to shave their mustache.

Some of them had to carry a Lady Gillette with them so they could sneak a shave at afternoon break or else they'd end up with five o'clock peach fuzz.
 
2010-12-04 06:40:35 AM  
No Such Agency: The_Pole_Of_Justice:
I'm amused by the fact that her 5 year old son read the situation better than she did.

"No, Mommy, they'll laugh."

"No they won't, sweetheart."

IIRC, according to the article it was other parents that gave them flak, not kids.


Er, well, yes. Not sure how that contradicts my point, though. I was every bit as self conscious around adults as kids when I was younger...
 
2010-12-04 06:41:29 AM  
Dear parents: Stop writing about your single digit kids online. It just gives the pedos wank fuel and intelligence if they want to make a grab for the kid.
 
2010-12-04 07:06:28 AM  
Where is the Church Of Scientology when needed?

Marine Core? what's that, the heart of a marine?
 
2010-12-04 07:06:55 AM  
Lots43: Dear parents: Stop writing about your single digit kids online. It just gives the pedos wank fuel and intelligence if they want to make a grab for the kid.

Wank Fuel. Great term. I shall use it daily.
 
2010-12-04 07:12:06 AM  
Mothers, embarrassing their sons, ruining their lives, lacking even basic empathy... yep sounds about standard of the recent generations. Hovermothering what a wonderful tradition.

/wishes he was raised by wolves
//would've gotten bitten less
 
2010-12-04 07:46:52 AM  
When my brother was 7 or 8 he asked for an Easy Bake oven for Christmas and my dad freaked out and wouldn't let my mother get it for him. So they got it for me and got my brother one of those electric race car sets. I used to play with the race track all the time while he baked cakes for us.

I'm not gay, I just always thought boy toys were cooler than the stupid Barbies I got and my brother isn't gay, he was just a fat kid who liked cake.

I think sometime, especially with little kids, that it's a curiosity about boy/girl things.
 
2010-12-04 07:50:22 AM  
mahuika: the attention span of a goldfish

Land of the free, home of the brave, baby.
 
2010-12-04 07:57:26 AM  
TallyGirl: my brother isn't gay, he was just a fat kid who liked cake.

I'm so tempted to make myself a T-shirt that reads "I'm not gay, I'm just a fat kid who likes cake".
 
2010-12-04 08:06:12 AM  
AverageAmericanGuy: gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy: You can usually tell if your kid is gay by the time he/she is about 4. It's totally natural, and the behavioral patterns establish themselves pretty early.

This mother seems pretty astute, though a boy isn't gay just because he likes to wear women's clothes. That's a different thing. Cross dressing is an indicator of hormone imbalance (in children), but that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be sucking dick when he turns 15.

Nothing you have written above is even slightly true. Nice troll though. 6/10.

I'm sorry. Do you have a degree in child psychology?


Are you a qualified psychiatrist with a specialization in Gender related issues or an Endocrinologist used to dealing with trans and up to date on current methodologies?

If not. STFU with that hormone imbalance shiat.
 
2010-12-04 08:07:58 AM  
Ghastly: Man... my Mom wouldn't let me wear pretty pretty dresses when I was 5. No fair.

Tis cool. It's not like we wanted to wear that dress anyway is it? *SULK*
 
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