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(The New York Times)   Mom who proclaimed "My son is gay" and posted a picture of him on her blog is "flabbergasted" when told that she outed him: "He's 5 years old. He's made no sexual conscious choice"   (well.blogs.nytimes.com) divider line 198
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2010-12-03 10:50:39 PM
so when I go derp, will it be this bad? How can adults say such stuff?
 
2010-12-03 10:54:10 PM
I don't think she proclaimed that he was gay. I think she was defending his choice of dressing like Daphne from Scoobie Doo.

Had he chosen to dress like Velma...
 
2010-12-03 10:58:04 PM
She said "if my son is gay...". What is wrong with that? If she had said, "My boy is going to grow up to break many girls' hearts" or something along those lines, no one would accuse her of pushing him towards heterosexuality, so STFU people.
 
2010-12-03 11:01:30 PM
When did she actually say he was gay?
 
2010-12-03 11:04:03 PM
The title of the article was "MY SON IS GAY" and thenthe first line says "...or he's not." and explicitly states he's made no choice. She used it as a joking attention grabber, mocking the parents who were judging her, and if you walked away thinking her son was gay you have the attention span of a goldfish.
 
2010-12-03 11:16:32 PM
CSB: When I was 5, I would dress in girls clothes and sing Donna Summer songs. My mom thought it was cute.

/1978.
 
2010-12-03 11:45:28 PM
If you think that me allowing my son to be a female character for Halloween is somehow going to 'make' him gay then you are an idiot. Firstly, what a ridiculous concept. Secondly, if my son is gay, O.K., I will love him no less. Thirdly, I am not worried that your son will grow up to be an actual ninja so back off.

ZOMG THAT MONSTER.
 
2010-12-03 11:56:21 PM
I hate the word "flabbergasted."

Almost as much as I hate the word "gobsmacked."

You can't flabber your gast anymore than you can smack your gob. Don't be silly. Just be "surprised."
 
2010-12-04 12:00:07 AM
CtrlAltDelete: You can't flabber your gast anymore than you can smack your gob. Don't be silly. Just be "surprised."

Actually, you can smack your gob or have it smacked relatively easily.
 
2010-12-04 12:01:14 AM
Relatively Obscure: Actually, you can smack your gob or have it smacked relatively easily.

No you can't. Not in polite company anyway.
 
2010-12-04 12:02:31 AM
CtrlAltDelete: Relatively Obscure: Actually, you can smack your gob or have it smacked relatively easily.

No you can't. Not in polite company anyway.


Well, most polite people wouldn't intentionally smack your gob, true.
 
2010-12-04 12:17:42 AM
This isn't so much a "follow-up" as it is "a month old."

November 5, 2010, 4:03 pm
When Boys Dress Like Girls for Halloween
 
2010-12-04 12:30:40 AM
Relatively Obscure: I am not worried that your son will grow up to be an actual ninja so back off.

Oh you better be worried, ma...be worried, indeed. In fact he might already be hiding in your curtains.
 
2010-12-04 12:42:33 AM
CtrlAltDelete: I hate the word "flabbergasted."

Are you kidding? It's a great word. I'm happily married though so my flabber gets gasted on a regular basis and I like it. YMMV.
 
2010-12-04 01:04:32 AM
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2010-12-04 01:07:33 AM
Enough of the gay crap. They're a minority. It's a predisposition. It's genetic. They need protection. They're normal. They're special. Jeezus...enough already.
 
2010-12-04 01:23:29 AM
I'm somewhat amused that this has come around to bite her in the ass.
 
2010-12-04 01:34:28 AM
bigpeeler: Enough of the gay crap. They're a minority. It's a predisposition. It's genetic. They need protection. They're normal. They're special. Jeezus...enough already.

I am legitimately curious what you mean by this? I don't want to assume anything, I just want to know.
 
2010-12-04 01:38:47 AM
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: I'm somewhat amused that this has come around to bite her in the ass.

I don't really think it has. She was expressing the only important negativity she had faced, that which was actually face-to-face and that targeted at her son the day of the Halloween dress-up.

This is just a restatement of the cold controversy. The "bite in the ass" from Dr. Jeff Gardere was no such thing. He made vaguely accusatory statements, based on no fact or theory of psychology, seemingly for the sole purpose of getting some controversy started. He is less a psychologist, and more of a talk show whore nowadays --- a Dr. Phil wannabe.
 
2010-12-04 01:40:02 AM
Schadenfreude ist die schoenste Freude: I'm somewhat amused that this has come around to bite her in the ass.

Except it hasn't. She was "flabbergasted" that the story went national. Subby's an idiot, the writer is a lazy idiot, and it's idiotic that went green. This is month old news repackaged. It's not even a follow-up.
 
2010-12-04 01:41:41 AM
Damn I just checked the date - November 5th. So the writer is not such an idiot.

/subby still is though
 
2010-12-04 01:55:35 AM
ITT: She can call her kid gay all she wants tooooooooooooo
 
2010-12-04 02:36:00 AM
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Yeesh.

Seriously Mom, you're supposed to over protect your
children at that age to a degree. Not potentially instigate and
literally guide them into their first foray into severe
peer chastisement and use them as a pawn for your own
self-righteous indignant gratification at 5-years old...
especially after he has second thoughts and wants to change
his mind, and expresses that to you
.

Thank goodness for the child it was only the stick-in-the-arse
Mom's that made the big deal out of it.
 
2010-12-04 04:06:44 AM
If my daughter had dressed as Batman, no one would have thought twice about it. No one.

QFT
 
2010-12-04 04:08:50 AM
What's wrong with that? Funniest costume I saw at school was a boy who had managed to sneak in this blue prom dress for a halloween party.

/Oh no your kid isn't SUPER MANLY MACHO MANLY GUY SO HE'S GONNA GROW UP TO BE A ONE OF THEM THAR GAYS
//Seriously who the fark cares?
 
2010-12-04 04:08:51 AM
You can usually tell if your kid is gay by the time he/she is about 4. It's totally natural, and the behavioral patterns establish themselves pretty early.

This mother seems pretty astute, though a boy isn't gay just because he likes to wear women's clothes. That's a different thing. Cross dressing is an indicator of hormone imbalance (in children), but that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be sucking dick when he turns 15.
 
2010-12-04 04:10:02 AM
Meatzilla: you're supposed to over protect your children at that age to a degree

No you're not. If you believe this, you don't (can't) possibly understand what the word "over" means in your sentence.

He's 5. There's no peer chastisement. He doesn't give a crap about your notions of gender appropriate fancy dress. His 5-year-old peers don't give a crap about your notions of gender appropriate fancy dress. He's playing dress up -- quite innocently. Get over it.
 
2010-12-04 04:10:52 AM
Meatzilla: (new window)

Yeesh.

Seriously Mom, you're supposed to over protect your
children at that age to a degree. Not potentially instigate and
literally guide them into their first foray into severe
peer chastisement and use them as a pawn for your own
self-righteous indignant gratification at 5-years old...
especially after he has second thoughts and wants to change
his mind, and expresses that to you.

Thank goodness for the child it was only the stick-in-the-arse
Mom's that made the big deal out of it.


He makes it work.
 
2010-12-04 04:11:13 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: You can usually tell if your kid is gay by the time he/she is about 4. It's totally natural, and the behavioral patterns establish themselves pretty early.

This mother seems pretty astute, though a boy isn't gay just because he likes to wear women's clothes. That's a different thing. Cross dressing is an indicator of hormone imbalance (in children), but that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be sucking dick when he turns 15.


Nothing you have written above is even slightly true. Nice troll though. 6/10.
 
2010-12-04 04:13:09 AM
gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy: You can usually tell if your kid is gay by the time he/she is about 4. It's totally natural, and the behavioral patterns establish themselves pretty early.

This mother seems pretty astute, though a boy isn't gay just because he likes to wear women's clothes. That's a different thing. Cross dressing is an indicator of hormone imbalance (in children), but that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be sucking dick when he turns 15.

Nothing you have written above is even slightly true. Nice troll though. 6/10.


I'm sorry. Do you have a degree in child psychology?
 
2010-12-04 04:13:41 AM
Meatzilla: (new window)

Yeesh.

Seriously Mom, you're supposed to over protect your
children at that age to a degree. Not potentially instigate and
literally guide them into their first foray into severe
peer chastisement and use them as a pawn for your own
self-righteous indignant gratification at 5-years old...
especially after he has second thoughts and wants to change
his mind, and expresses that to you.

Thank goodness for the child it was only the stick-in-the-arse
Mom's that made the big deal out of it.


meh, one would also hope that fellow parents had the good sense to not teach their kids to pick on everyone around them for every little difference. Given the parents lack of values when it comes to these things, I find it hard to believe that these parents are teaching their kids, or even trying to teach their kids, not to pick on their gay peers. That said, I'm sure they all believe that being gay is a choice and some kids just like the abuse, so that's why they choose to be gay.
 
2010-12-04 04:16:11 AM
Fear; Learn it, straights. We're coming for YOUR children.

It's okay to be gay now, and we're almost equal in EVERY WAY POSSIBLE. This child is just one of many of our recruits. After our political strength is finished being built, our witch-hung begins.

Just smile, swap out your rebel flags for rainbow ones, and nod, coont-rags; our reign is just beginning.
 
2010-12-04 04:16:16 AM
Ignoring the fact of this child's age and lack of defined sexual orientation yet, since when is outing done by your family? Family is usually the last and most nervously we "come out" to.

/ They usually have it figured out anyway
// But not always
 
2010-12-04 04:16:54 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy:
Nothing you have written above is even slightly true. Nice troll though. 6/10.

I'm sorry. Do you have a degree in child psychology?


No. My degrees are in non-bullshiat subjects.

Are you suggesting that what you wrote is the consensus of experts in child psychology? Because you're wrong about that too.
 
2010-12-04 04:18:40 AM
starsrift: / They usually have it figured out anyway
// But not always


It ain't just a river in Egypt.
 
2010-12-04 04:18:46 AM
vernonFL 2010-12-03 11:16:32 PM
CSB: When I was 5, I would dress in girls clothes and sing Donna Summer songs. My mom thought it was cute.

/1978.


My parents bought one of those early video cameras (VHS cassette). I was about 7 or 8. For about a couple months, everytime they were recording, I would go into fake flaming gay guy act... with the whole stereotypical limp wrist, prancing around and talking in a fakey effeminate voice. I wouldnt act normal - just total gay ham it up for the camera. At first my parents thought it was funny. Then over time, their amusement turned to concern. One of my uncles who watched the videos sternly lectured me and said I'd get into trouble at school if I acted like that - probably so. Anyhow, eventually I got bored with it and stopped. Totally a boring hetereosexual person, so I have no idea where all that came from.

/1982 maybe?
 
2010-12-04 04:19:48 AM
gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy: gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy:
Nothing you have written above is even slightly true. Nice troll though. 6/10.

I'm sorry. Do you have a degree in child psychology?

No.


I'm sorry, you're trying to correct me? Where do you get off?
 
2010-12-04 04:21:14 AM
gwowen:
Are you suggesting that what you wrote is the consensus of experts in child psychology? Because you're wrong about that too.


Are you suggesting that you are either an expert or know the consensus of the experts in child psychology? Does this knowledge come from your lack of education in this field?
 
2010-12-04 04:22:08 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy: You can usually tell if your kid is gay by the time he/she is about 4. It's totally natural, and the behavioral patterns establish themselves pretty early.

This mother seems pretty astute, though a boy isn't gay just because he likes to wear women's clothes. That's a different thing. Cross dressing is an indicator of hormone imbalance (in children), but that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be sucking dick when he turns 15.

Nothing you have written above is even slightly true. Nice troll though. 6/10.

I'm sorry. Do you have a degree in child psychology?


oh wait, it's a random internet stranger with unverified credentials... but you seem so smart. If you were anyone else, would you believe a random person on the internet because they said they had a degree in something? I mean, how often have we seen people on fark with a GED in Law, or a decade of experience in the Marine Core...
 
2010-12-04 04:22:14 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: I'm sorry, you're trying to correct me?

Yes, I am. Wrong is wrong. And no amount of evasion, followed by appeal to unstated-but-unsubtly-alluded-to authority will make you right. You're wrong. I'm correcting you.

You may now go back to pretending to be informed on this subject.
 
2010-12-04 04:22:47 AM
Man... my Mom wouldn't let me wear pretty pretty dresses when I was 5. No fair.
 
2010-12-04 04:22:49 AM
firefly212: AverageAmericanGuy: gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy: You can usually tell if your kid is gay by the time he/she is about 4. It's totally natural, and the behavioral patterns establish themselves pretty early.

This mother seems pretty astute, though a boy isn't gay just because he likes to wear women's clothes. That's a different thing. Cross dressing is an indicator of hormone imbalance (in children), but that doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be sucking dick when he turns 15.

Nothing you have written above is even slightly true. Nice troll though. 6/10.

I'm sorry. Do you have a degree in child psychology?

oh wait, it's a random internet stranger with unverified credentials... but you seem so smart. If you were anyone else, would you believe a random person on the internet because they said they had a degree in something? I mean, how often have we seen people on fark with a GED in Law, or a decade of experience in the Marine Core...


LOL. True. true.
 
2010-12-04 04:23:48 AM
gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy: I'm sorry, you're trying to correct me?

Yes, I am. Wrong is wrong. And no amount of evasion, followed by appeal to unstated-but-unsubtly-alluded-to authority will make you right. You're wrong. I'm correcting you.

You may now go back to pretending to be informed on this subject.


Well then, I'll just defer to your lack of education and credentials. LMAO
 
2010-12-04 04:24:17 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: firefly212: AverageAmericanGuy:

LOL. True. true.


Dude, he's mocking YOU.
 
2010-12-04 04:26:15 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: Well then, I'll just defer to your lack of education and credentials. LMAO

Thank you, Dr Benjamin Spock. You may now return to your junior college dorm room.
 
2010-12-04 04:26:59 AM
AverageAmericanGuy: oh wait, it's a random internet stranger with unverified credentials... but you seem so smart. If you were anyone else, would you believe a random person on the internet because they said they had a degree in something? I mean, how often have we seen people on fark with a GED in Law, or a decade of experience in the Marine Core...

LOL. True. true.


images.icanhascheezburger.com
 
2010-12-04 04:27:08 AM
gwowen: AverageAmericanGuy: firefly212: AverageAmericanGuy:

LOL. True. true.

Dude, he's mocking YOU.


You truly can't let it go that you've been called out as an uneducated blowhard. Give it up. We got it. You don't have a degree in child psychology, but you somehow know all about it.

That's fine. Thanks for your opinion (as ignorant and uninformed as it may be)
 
2010-12-04 04:28:13 AM
As the story unfolds, we learn that the gay is COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE.

What a twist.
 
2010-12-04 04:29:58 AM
Kids at that age have no concept of sex. The mom is being horribly cruel posting a picture like that and putting the word "gay" anywhere near it.
 
2010-12-04 04:30:21 AM
My son is a 4 year old cross dresser and he's getting a kick out of this thread.

He also wonders why his mom doesn't have a peener.

Oh, and he'd like a snack.
 
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