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(Time)   The donkey is in the midst of a nervous breakdown and it's a doozy   (thepage.time.com) divider line 55
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2010-12-03 03:51:06 PM  
What an ass.
 
2010-12-03 04:10:33 PM  
In the middle? If I do the math, you're saying they'll have calmed down in 20 years.
 
2010-12-03 04:23:01 PM  
halperin is a hack.
 
2010-12-03 04:27:08 PM  
FlashHarry: halperin is a hack.

This. So are most of them. You can't trust the judgement of ostensibly "liberal" beltway pundits that criticize the left using the GOP's framing.
 
2010-12-03 05:18:19 PM  
Jesus, you call this political commentary? My youngest daughter can write drivel better than this.
 
2010-12-03 05:42:57 PM  
The truth is that we are upset because the white house does have political leverage it could use. The Democratic Party could have forced the issue of tax cuts right before the election and let Republicans filibuster the tax cuts for everyone filing income taxes in order to get additional tax cuts for the richest 10% of the Americans who control 70% of this country's wealth.

The Democrats could be on national television every day explaining that many gay service members have been dismissed from critical language positions, especially Arabic (including the Iraqi dialect, and painting the Republicans as weakening national security. I know someone who is fluent in Iraqi Arabic that left the Air Force because of DADT. These are exactly the sort of people we need.

The Democrats could be on television everyday explaining how unemployment benefits help not only the unemployed but directly stimulate consumer spending and there filibusters will hurt our country as a whole.

There ineptitude is absolutely inexcusable.
 
2010-12-03 07:32:45 PM  
Is it hyperbolic to say the Democratic Party is in the midst of a nervous breakdown?

Yes.

Next question?
 
2010-12-03 07:58:35 PM  
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich, so they're not doing that stuff? I often wonder about that, but am never sure because I don't have a TV and have no idea what info the average nonpolitics junkie is exposed to.

damn, that's too bad. to put it mildly.
 
2010-12-03 08:25:25 PM  
Mark Halperin is neocon scum. Don't think for a minute this is a meaningful editorial opinion. It's pure propaganda.
 
2010-12-03 08:29:29 PM  
including continuing to try to trade for DADT and the Dream Act (rather than things dealing with jobs)

DADT deals directly with jobs, you asshat. Big bad government jobs.
 
2010-12-03 08:29:33 PM  
brainiac-dumdum: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich, so they're not doing that stuff? I often wonder about that, but am never sure because I don't have a TV and have no idea what info the average nonpolitics junkie is exposed to.

damn, that's too bad. to put it mildly.


1) This is the way it has always been.

2) It's not entirely the Democrats' fault. The left doesn't have the media infrastructure that the right has, to wit: the Murdoch empire. And studies have shown that even the "liberal" media favors conservative guests over liberal guests on at least a 2-1 basis.
 
2010-12-03 08:30:10 PM  
captain_heroic44: Mark Halperin is neocon scum. Don't think for a minute this is a meaningful editorial opinion. It's pure propaganda.

It's not even propaganda. It's basically "ISN'T THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN A TAILSPIN? ISN'T THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN A TAILSPIN? ISN'T THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN A TAILSPIN? BECAUSE THEY ARE! YES, THEY ARE! THEY ARE THEY ARE THEY ARE!"

It's not even good projection. Seriously: learn to write. Learn logic. But all of this is just utterly pathetic. And it doesn't make sense since most of the real battles going on today is the Democrats passing bills while the Republicans make plans to stonewall until November 2012.

Oh, and we could bring up Palin, but I'm not sure who the Republicans are going to bring up next to discredit her. Is one of the Bush daughters available? Maybe the publicist to Karl Rove.
 
2010-12-03 08:30:24 PM  
Time Magazine is just part of the lamestream Soros owned media.

Nice try, Libtards.
 
2010-12-03 08:32:54 PM  
Since around 75% of people want the tax cut for the rich to lapse, Halperin is whistling up his boxers.
 
2010-12-03 08:33:04 PM  
Halperin is the second biggest hack there is. It's scientific fact (new window)
 
2010-12-03 08:36:11 PM  
The standing ovation Charlie Rangel received from the Democrats right after voting to censure him is clearly some sign of losing it.
 
2010-12-03 08:37:08 PM  
I have no idea why but that picture reminded me of this:

www.beckenham.id.au
 
2010-12-03 08:38:41 PM  
He sounds concerned.
 
2010-12-03 08:39:59 PM  
A much better look at the issue:

Freezing Out Hope (new window) by Paul Krugman
 
2010-12-03 08:47:52 PM  
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Being a conservative, and currently enjoying the current state of the Democratic party, I am reminded of some very wise words Mr. Wolfe gave Vincent and Jules when they thought they were home free before leaving "Bonnie's house."

Two years ago, it was the Republican party which was said to be aimless and setting off on a journey of 40 years of obscurity. One only needs to look at the last two years and also post 1994 to see two years is a long time in politics.

There are those on the left who will argue the Dems need to go as far left as possible, while some on the right will argue the Republicans need to go to the far right, and I think both are wrong.

In the end, "pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered," and I think that describes this year's election, just as it did in 2006.
 
2010-12-03 08:48:24 PM  
He_Hate_Me: A much better look at the issue:

Freezing Out Hope (new window) by Paul Krugman


Thing is, I actually agree that Obama can't risk being "the president who raised taxes during a recession. But for God's sake, force some concessions on the issue. Tie extensions of tax cuts to extensions of unemployment benefits. Have a new vote on tax cuts every time a new vote on unemployment comes up. Don't just give them away.

It's hard to disagree with Krugman's assessment on this. Obama isn't paying enough heed to his supporters. And it is making us feel like we made an embarrassing mistake. I think Hillary would been so much more effective against the Republicans. Maybe we'd have much of the same policy--but the Republicans would have paid a higher price to get it.
 
2010-12-03 08:55:53 PM  
captain_heroic44: He_Hate_Me: A much better look at the issue:

Freezing Out Hope (new window) by Paul Krugman

Thing is, I actually agree that Obama can't risk being "the president who raised taxes during a recession. But for God's sake, force some concessions on the issue. Tie extensions of tax cuts to extensions of unemployment benefits. Have a new vote on tax cuts every time a new vote on unemployment comes up. Don't just give them away.

It's hard to disagree with Krugman's assessment on this. Obama isn't paying enough heed to his supporters. And it is making us feel like we made an embarrassing mistake. I think Hillary would been so much more effective against the Republicans. Maybe we'd have much of the same policy--but the Republicans would have paid a higher price to get it.


This. I'm sure as hell never voting Republican, but I've pretty much lost faith in the Dems as well. Not a single spine among the lot.
About all I can hope for at this point is that the Repub's get so cocky and do something so monumentally stupid that even the dumbest voter can't fail to notice.
 
2010-12-03 09:10:36 PM  
photos.imageevent.com

photos.imageevent.com

Taste like Ass!
 
2010-12-03 09:44:53 PM  
jpo2269: In the end, "pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered," and I think that describes this year's election, just as it did in 2006.

I love that movie and I have no farking idea what you think that aphorism means. What the hell??
 
2010-12-03 10:28:37 PM  
Marcus Aurelius: Jesus, you call this political commentary? My youngest daughter can write drivel better than this.

Does she prepare teleprompter speeches?
 
2010-12-03 11:12:53 PM  
StokeyBob: Taste like Ass!

I thought "Tastes like raisins!!"
 
2010-12-03 11:21:06 PM  
So despite the fact that the Democrats are just a couple of votes shy of where they were when they forced Health Care "Reform" through without a single Republican vote... Now they have no choice but to give in to those same Republicans and extend tax cuts to the rich?

Yea. Right.

dl.dropbox.com
 
2010-12-03 11:37:48 PM  
Wow so much projection and denial, so little time.
 
2010-12-03 11:55:02 PM  
Not a word of this was worth reading.
 
2010-12-04 12:09:17 AM  
I don't understand what this 'article' is trying to convey, other than the blindingly obvious. It literally managed to say nothing. Nice green Fark. It's almost like the site is banking on the fact that people only read the headline and then run to the message board and click away.

/ah well, carry on
 
2010-12-04 12:12:45 AM  
This article is typical of the GOP since their gross (George W. Bush two terms?) mistake.
1. Whatever criticism you leveled against Dubya we'll flip and level against Obama
2. Whatever disarray our party seems to be in, we'll flip it and say it's YOUR party that's that way.
3. Whatever stand we take is "in the name of the hard working people" or "to protect the people" of America.
4. We are unyielding even when we hurt ourselves in the process: it reinforces the "we're persecuted because we're righteous" vibe.


A winning strategy? Only if Obama & Co. play into their hands.
When someone uses a fallacy, disprove it flatly and openly; don't argue the point.
 
2010-12-04 12:15:08 AM  
Unhip1: When someone uses a fallacy, disprove it flatly and openly; don't argue the point.

Nothing like using an appeal to authority when you're acting smug about how logical you are.
 
2010-12-04 12:15:10 AM  
he says they are having a breakdown and as evidence points out that they are losing easymodo fights, capitulating on their supposed principles, and failing to comprehend why they just cant seem to win.

im not seeing how thats much of a diversion from the norm however. hasn't that pretty much been the democrats bread and butter since Reagan?
 
2010-12-04 12:24:15 AM  
sprawl15: Unhip1: When someone uses a fallacy, disprove it flatly and openly; don't argue the point.

Nothing like using an appeal to authority when you're acting smug about how logical you are.


I find appeal to authority rather effective. I mean, I suck at telling people what it is like to be in a wheelchair but Steven Hawking is awesome at it.
 
2010-12-04 12:26:20 AM  
Sabyen91: I find appeal to authority rather effective. I mean, I suck at telling people what it is like to be in a wheelchair but Steven Hawking is awesome at it.

Mmmm...that Steven Hawking. I'm not concerned about walking, I'd be content to let his fingers do the talking.
 
2010-12-04 12:28:06 AM  
sprawl15: Sabyen91: I find appeal to authority rather effective. I mean, I suck at telling people what it is like to be in a wheelchair but Steven Hawking is awesome at it.

Mmmm...that Steven Hawking. I'm not concerned about walking, I'd be content to let his fingers do the talking.


I disagree that appeal to authority is a bad thing. If some chemist knows shiat about how magnesium burns, that is great.
 
2010-12-04 12:30:12 AM  
Sabyen91: I disagree that appeal to authority is a bad thing. If some chemist knows shiat about how magnesium burns, that is great.

I don't wanna talk to a scientist, y'all motherfarkers lying, and getting me pissed.
 
2010-12-04 12:31:29 AM  
sprawl15: Sabyen91: I disagree that appeal to authority is a bad thing. If some chemist knows shiat about how magnesium burns, that is great.

I don't wanna talk to a scientist, y'all motherfarkers lying, and getting me pissed.


Dude, magnets!!!
 
2010-12-04 12:37:00 AM  
blogs.news.com.au
 
2010-12-04 12:41:30 AM  
img208.imageshack.us
 
2010-12-04 01:43:03 AM  
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: There ineptitude is absolutely inexcusable.

I see what you did their.
 
2010-12-04 02:02:53 AM  
This will always be the case when you're voted for by the left and paid for by the right.
 
2010-12-04 03:51:16 AM  
Change "Democrat" to "Republican" and this is just a carbon copy of all the "Republicans are Finished!" articles from two years ago. Which I think we can safely say were proven wrong in November.

Seriously, it's like these writers just go back and change a few words, and republish the same stories.
 
Esn
2010-12-04 06:27:06 AM  
I honestly think that at this point, Democrats should simply capitulate entirely and hand over the whole ship to the Republicans. At least it would show that they have a spine. It's painfully obvious that they can't do a thing anyway, so why draw out the agony? Let everything crash. Get rid of the illusion that they're relevant and reveal the real magicians behind the curtain.

The biggest problem in American politics is dishonesty. There need to be a few people who're willing to say "screw everything" and tell the public what's really going on. Heck, maybe release it anonymously online.

Would've been nice for Wikileaks to do it, but they seem to be preoccupied with international politics, which isn't winning them nearly as many friends as if they had released some relevant DOMESTIC information.
 
2010-12-04 06:49:51 AM  
from the article - Is it hyperbolic to say the Democratic Party is in the midst of a nervous breakdown?

Oh God why don't you just have Drugs Limbaugh write your irrelevant column. Every 15 minutes he hits the button to play two .wav files.

1) "We're taking over"

2) "The Democrats are imploding"
 
Esn
2010-12-04 06:59:33 AM  
It's also possible that at least some of this would get resolved if Obama resigned. It seems like lot of the enmity is made possible because many of the heartlanders don't believe that the President has the best interests of their country in mind. They don't think he's American. And so they feel that by not compromising with him in any way, on any issue, they are in fact doing what is best for their country (as they see it). They see it as civil war.

The President's supporters aren't as useful to the big power players and have a more diverse makeup, so are harder to lead along a path.
 
2010-12-04 07:52:34 AM  
Dr.Gonzo7719

Change "Democrat" to "Republican" and this is just a carbon copy of all the "Republicans are Finished!" articles from two years ago. Which I think we can safely say were proven wrong in November.

Seriously, it's like these writers just go back and change a few words, and republish the same stories.


correct

and what were the Reps doing?

Spending

now the Dems 4x the spending, and will be trown out of office at that rate
 
2010-12-04 08:10:17 AM  
captain_heroic44: He_Hate_Me: A much better look at the issue:

Freezing Out Hope (new window) by Paul Krugman

Thing is, I actually agree that Obama can't risk being "the president who raised taxes during a recession. But for God's sake, force some concessions on the issue. Tie extensions of tax cuts to extensions of unemployment benefits. Have a new vote on tax cuts every time a new vote on unemployment comes up. Don't just give them away.

It's hard to disagree with Krugman's assessment on this. Obama isn't paying enough heed to his supporters. And it is making us feel like we made an embarrassing mistake. I think Hillary would been so much more effective against the Republicans. Maybe we'd have much of the same policy--but the Republicans would have paid a higher price to get it.


Obama was just too pretty not to elect. I'm being serious here. Put his best picture next to Hilary's best picture and ask people to choose a president. Because in reality that's how most independents choose a president. Especially the young. Party followers just look for the right initial after the name. The entire process has been mindless since the Kennedy/Nixon debates.

I think with more time in the Senate Obama would have made a great president. It's too bad he over estimated his abilities and thanks to the Halo Effect so did we all.

/By God he LOOKS like a President! (new window)
 
2010-12-04 08:24:08 AM  
Is it hyperbolic to say that Mark Halperin is an idiot with nothing to say?
 
2010-12-04 09:11:44 AM  
captain_heroic44: brainiac-dumdum: Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich, so they're not doing that stuff? I often wonder about that, but am never sure because I don't have a TV and have no idea what info the average nonpolitics junkie is exposed to.

damn, that's too bad. to put it mildly.

1) This is the way it has always been.

2) It's not entirely the Democrats' fault. The left doesn't have the media infrastructure that the right has, to wit: the Murdoch empire. And studies have shown that even the "liberal" media favors conservative guests over liberal guests on at least a 2-1 basis.


If Obama wasn't the president you might have a point. As it stands Obama has a bully pulpit. The media will cover him, he just needs to have enough fire in him to harangue the republicans on a daily basis over the national news.

BullBearMS: So despite the fact that the Democrats are just a couple of votes shy of where they were when they forced Health Care "Reform" through without a single Republican vote...

You mean after they capitulated one close to every substantial point on the health care bill and completely gave up on the idea of a public option?

The democrats should have just forced reconcilliation for a public option plan, it could get through because its a budget measure and it could avoid being twisted into a terrible perversion of itself because the public option can be kept simple.

The democrats don't need 60 votes in the senate, they just need 51 votes and a spine.
 
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