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(Life.com)   55 years ago today, one woman refused to sit in the back of the bus. RIP, Miss Rosa   (life.com) divider line 177
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2010-12-01 11:34:23 AM  
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The other day I refused to sit in the back of the bus and everybody thought I was a jerk.

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2010-12-01 11:36:26 AM  
skullkrusher: PDX Ghost Hunter: People talk about segregation as a bad thing. Most races will segregate themselves if you pay attention. Just because you give it a name it's suddenly a bad thing. People of the same race always flock together yet that's OK. Just don't label it because then it's bad.

yeah... it's bad when it's forced. That's kinda the farking point


Not if when given a choice they choose segregation anyway. That's like saying that you can't make people drink water but if you just let it go they will all drink it anyways. People given the choice will always segregate themselves with people of their own race. You can't compare people flocking with their own kind to rape. I'm not saying segregation should be a law or in effect in any way, I'm just saying it's not a big deal that it used to be that way because even if it hadn't been people would have chosen it regardless.
 
2010-12-01 11:38:51 AM  
When they got to her stop did she get uppity?
 
2010-12-01 11:39:45 AM  
Of course if this were to happen today there'd be no shortage of twats condemning Parks and saying that she shouldn't have just sat at the back of the bus and not stirred sh*t up.

Much of the political debate you see today gives one insight as to how it came to be that Jim Crow and other segregation laws were a fact of life in the first place. We may delude ourselves into thinking that the "got mine, fark you" mindset is a new thing, but clearly it's not.
 
2010-12-01 11:40:14 AM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: She paved the way for black's right to public transportation, and they have been using it ever since.

Man I wish voting was enabled on this thread.
 
2010-12-01 11:41:30 AM  
If Rosa Parks were alive in 1865, she would have been a PROUD REPUBLICAN!

Suck it, libs.
 
2010-12-01 11:41:52 AM  
MBrady: HumbleGenius: And now the first black president sits at the back of a limo.

Why is someone who is mixed race considered "black?"

Since he has a black father and a white mother, he is just as much white as he is black.


By law in Louisianna, one grand parent who is black makes you an octeroon and a Negro.
 
2010-12-01 11:43:34 AM  
Excen: redmond24: Best mugshot evar?

She looks like a matronly Rosario Dawson in that.

/The butthurt would be thick like chocolate syrup over casting her for that role. . .
//Tyler Perry would turn into Malcolm X!


May I direct your attention to this:
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2010-12-01 11:44:24 AM  
douchebag/hater: Hero?

Maybe but it would be nice if more people knew that the whole thing was staged by the local NAACP chapter in order to get attention.

She wasn't a 'lone voice crying in the wilderness', she was part of concerted effort to force the issue.

The more you know...


How does that change anything?

These facts piss racists off even more because they were outsmarted by black people.
 
2010-12-01 11:44:48 AM  
douchebag/hater: Hero?

Maybe but it would be nice if more people knew that the whole thing was staged by the local NAACP chapter in order to get attention.

She wasn't a 'lone voice crying in the wilderness', she was part of concerted effort to force the issue.

The more you know...


Actually, I happened to know that.
 
2010-12-01 11:44:54 AM  
PDX Ghost Hunter: skullkrusher: PDX Ghost Hunter: People talk about segregation as a bad thing. Most races will segregate themselves if you pay attention. Just because you give it a name it's suddenly a bad thing. People of the same race always flock together yet that's OK. Just don't label it because then it's bad.

yeah... it's bad when it's forced. That's kinda the farking point

Not if when given a choice they choose segregation anyway. That's like saying that you can't make people drink water but if you just let it go they will all drink it anyways. People given the choice will always segregate themselves with people of their own race. You can't compare people flocking with their own kind to rape. I'm not saying segregation should be a law or in effect in any way, I'm just saying it's not a big deal that it used to be that way because even if it hadn't been people would have chosen it regardless.


jeez man... if people choose to self-segregate that is one thing. Laws forcing that segregation are entirely another. Most people also choose to get married. That doesn't mean laws mandating marriage are a good thing. "Hey, most would probably do it anyway" is not an excuse.

Segregation is not bad when done so willingly - people often choose to associate with those they have most in common with. That's natural. Mandating that they have to do that is not.
 
2010-12-01 11:46:30 AM  
Too bad Dennis Hopper blew her up.
 
2010-12-01 11:48:01 AM  
Oh, and what the hell kinda crazy-juice are they putting in the water in PDX?
 
2010-12-01 11:49:19 AM  
mcreadyblue:
By law in Louisianna, one grand parent who is black makes you an octeroon.


I don't like those. Not a big fan of Coconut.
 
2010-12-01 11:49:20 AM  
Rosa Parks was the recording secretary of the local NAACP Chapter. Though she was portrayed as just a tired woman who wanted to sit down, she was much more than that.

This isn't a knock on her. She was way smarter than people gave her credit for. She knew exactly what she was doing when she sat in that seat. Good for her.

/I'd like to thank the Vassar College History Department for allowing me the knowledge to weigh in here.
 
2010-12-01 11:49:55 AM  
MBrady: HumbleGenius: And now the first black president sits at the back of a limo.

Why is someone who is mixed race considered "black?"

Since he has a black father and a white mother, he is just as much white as he is black.


If you take an empty bottle and fill it with equal parts water and piss, is it a bottle of water, or a bottle of piss?
 
2010-12-01 11:50:09 AM  
Rapmaster2000: If Rosa Parks were alive in 1865, she would have been a PROUD REPUBLICAN slave!

Suck it, libs.
 
2010-12-01 11:50:19 AM  
Burt Parks did what?
 
2010-12-01 11:51:43 AM  
Everyone here who keeps saying that sitting in the back of the bus isn't a big deal, that black kids do it all the time today, etc. please remember one there is one huge difference: Blacks during Rosa Parks era had no choice. They had to give up their seat to a white person, they had to move to the back of the bus or be thrown in jail. Choice is freedom. If Blacks tried to exercise one, they would be deprived of the other.
 
2010-12-01 11:52:35 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: douchebag/hater: Hero?

Maybe but it would be nice if more people knew that the whole thing was staged by the local NAACP chapter in order to get attention.

She wasn't a 'lone voice crying in the wilderness', she was part of concerted effort to force the issue.

The more you know...

How does that change anything?

These facts piss racists off even more because they were outsmarted by black people.


Yeah, I don't get that one as well. People needed an example to rally behind, regardless of who did it first or how it was done, this was what worked.
 
2010-12-01 11:53:03 AM  
skullkrusher:
jeez man... if people choose to self-segregate that is one thing. Laws forcing that segregation are entirely another. Most people also choose to get married. That doesn't mean laws mandating marriage are a good thing. "Hey, most would probably do it anyway" is not an excuse.

Segregation is not bad when done so willingly - people often choose to associate with those they have most in common with. That's natural. Mandating that they have to do that is not.


Blah blah. She threw a fit, made headlines and today blacks still self-segregate and sit in the back of the bus because that's where they want to sit. Nothing really accomplished. Makes for a neat story though. Maybe a made for TV movie starring Angela Basset.
 
2010-12-01 11:54:40 AM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: MBrady: HumbleGenius: And now the first black president sits at the back of a limo.

Why is someone who is mixed race considered "black?"

Since he has a black father and a white mother, he is just as much white as he is black.

If you take an empty bottle and fill it with equal parts water and piss, is it a bottle of water, or a bottle of piss?


American beer?
 
2010-12-01 11:55:00 AM  
(sort of) Cool Story Bro Alert:

I once had the privilege of meeting Johnie Carr, a contemporary of Mrs Parks. Even at an advanced age, she was an amazing woman.

/CSB
 
2010-12-01 11:55:44 AM  
GRCAMPBELL: Rosa Parks was the recording secretary of the local NAACP Chapter. Though she was portrayed as just a tired woman who wanted to sit down, she was much more than that.

This isn't a knock on her. She was way smarter than people gave her credit for. She knew exactly what she was doing when she sat in that seat. Good for her.

/I'd like to thank the Vassar College History Department for allowing me the knowledge to weigh in here.


Well no. White Southerners are a psychotic bunch and who knows what kind of shiat a white cop and bus driver would pull against an uppity negro. They could have gunned her down in the street and gotten a medal for it.

Many years ago, I had the luck of hanging out with a few of the National Guardsmen who helped integrated the schools down south. According to them, it's a minor miracle they didn't go Kent State on the Confederates.
 
2010-12-01 11:56:59 AM  
propasaurus: Oh, and what the hell kinda crazy-juice are they putting in the water in PDX?

It's the run off from the meth labs that gets into the water.
 
2010-12-01 11:57:04 AM  
GRCAMPBELL: Rosa Parks was the recording secretary of the local NAACP Chapter. Though she was portrayed as just a tired woman who wanted to sit down, she was much more than that.

This isn't a knock on her. She was way smarter than people gave her credit for. She knew exactly what she was doing when she sat in that seat. Good for her.



But generations of kids were taught the myth.
 
2010-12-01 11:57:12 AM  
PDX Ghost Hunter: skullkrusher:
jeez man... if people choose to self-segregate that is one thing. Laws forcing that segregation are entirely another. Most people also choose to get married. That doesn't mean laws mandating marriage are a good thing. "Hey, most would probably do it anyway" is not an excuse.

Segregation is not bad when done so willingly - people often choose to associate with those they have most in common with. That's natural. Mandating that they have to do that is not.

Blah blah. She threw a fit, made headlines and today blacks still self-segregate and sit in the back of the bus because that's where they want to sit. Nothing really accomplished. Makes for a neat story though. Maybe a made for TV movie starring Angela Basset.


must be something with the PDX
 
2010-12-01 11:57:18 AM  
It's Miss PARKS... the only time you say "Miss" and a persons first name, is if you're 4 years old or 80.
 
2010-12-01 11:58:47 AM  
DavidVincent: Burt Parks did what?

He was pretty famous for what he did in the sixties: He played hockey for Rangers and then was traded to the Bruins. I think he ended his last few years with the Red Wings

images.wikia.com
 
2010-12-01 12:01:20 PM  
"If I have seen far, it is only because I have stood on the shoulders of giants."
 
2010-12-01 12:04:48 PM  
BadAdviceGuy: a shame to connect an important equal rights protest to something as insignificant as being angry about extra security at an airport

Right, because comparing civil rights to constitutional rights is two rights and a wrong.
/Moran.
 
2010-12-01 12:05:06 PM  
DavidVincent: But generations of kids were taught the myth

Jesus Christ, that would be terrible to try and teach kids a moral lesson about treating people equally using a mythical figure.
 
2010-12-01 12:05:26 PM  
RoosterCogburn: It's Miss PARKS... the only time you say "Miss" and a persons first name, is if you're 4 years old or 80.

except in many places in the South where it is quite common to refer to people as Miss Firstname
 
2010-12-01 12:05:43 PM  
...and 55 years later, "they" still wish to sit at the black.

seriously, ever been on a public bus?
 
2010-12-01 12:05:50 PM  
RoosterCogburn: It's Miss PARKS... the only time you say "Miss" and a persons first name, is if you're 4 years old or 80.

... actually, that's a southernism. Miss Ann. Miss Sally. Miss June.

/some of y'all know what I'm talking about
//mm hmm
 
2010-12-01 12:06:38 PM  
GRCAMPBELL: This isn't a knock on her. She was way smarter than people gave her credit for. She knew exactly what she was doing when she sat in that seat. Good for her.

she was seated in the colored section and refused to give up her seat when the whites only section was filled up. Don't exchange one myth for another
 
2010-12-01 12:07:51 PM  
vegasj: ...and 55 years later, "they" still wish to sit at the black...

Freud just got on the bus.
 
2010-12-01 12:09:02 PM  
browneye: Everyone here who keeps saying that sitting in the back of the bus isn't a big deal, that black kids do it all the time today, etc. please remember one there is one huge difference: Blacks during Rosa Parks era had no choice. They had to give up their seat to a white person, they had to move to the back of the bus or be thrown in jail. Choice is freedom. If Blacks tried to exercise one, they would be deprived of the other.

Well, I often sit in the front of the bus not by choice, but because the back of the bus with all the gangster types can be dangerous.
 
2010-12-01 12:09:14 PM  
skullkrusher: RoosterCogburn: It's Miss PARKS... the only time you say "Miss" and a persons first name, is if you're 4 years old or 80.

except in many places in the South where it is quite common to refer to people as Miss Firstname


Yep. Lot of connotations, negative and positive, with that usage. Miss Polly. Miss Sarah. Going further back, Ol' Miss Bertha. Young Miss Bertha.
 
2010-12-01 12:09:40 PM  
TheShavingofOccam123: In before "She wasn't the first one."

/Also, the Civil War was about slavery


Well I think it's important to note that she was part of a movement. The time and place of her act may have even been chosen, just like the lunch counter sit-ins. I'm not in any way trying to diminish her brave act, but I am trying to point out that the civil rights movement was one of the most brilliantly calculated and executed movements in American history.

To me, the myth that she was a lone woman that made a stand is no more or less compelling than she was part of a well-orchestrated movement.
 
2010-12-01 12:09:54 PM  
mcreadyblue: MBrady: HumbleGenius: And now the first black president sits at the back of a limo.

Why is someone who is mixed race considered "black?"

Since he has a black father and a white mother, he is just as much white as he is black.

By law in Louisianna, one grand parent who is black makes you an octeroon and a Negro.


He has one white and one black parent, which would make him a mulatto.
 
2010-12-01 12:10:31 PM  
skullkrusher: GRCAMPBELL: This isn't a knock on her. She was way smarter than people gave her credit for. She knew exactly what she was doing when she sat in that seat. Good for her.

she was seated in the colored section and refused to give up her seat when the whites only section was filled up. Don't exchange one myth for another


Like the myth of the southern gentleman? What the fark kind of man would make a woman, in any section, give up her seat so he can sit down in her place?
 
2010-12-01 12:11:17 PM  
HumbleGenius: Well I use Mac/Linux...: MBrady: HumbleGenius: And now the first black president sits at the back of a limo.

Why is someone who is mixed race considered "black?"

Since he has a black father and a white mother, he is just as much white as he is black.

If you take an empty bottle and fill it with equal parts water and piss, is it a bottle of water, or a bottle of piss?

American beer?


Oh my, you win.
 
2010-12-01 12:12:24 PM  
This brings up a question, if I am in the big stall of the public bathroom, do I need to give up my seat for the differently-abled?
 
2010-12-01 12:12:58 PM  
propasaurus: (sort of) Cool Story Bro Alert:

I once had the privilege of meeting Johnie Carr, a contemporary of Mrs Parks. Even at an advanced age, she was an amazing woman.

/CSB


Thank you for mentioning her. Now I've learned something new. I wish her wiki entry was longer, though. When you met her, what struck you most about her and what she had to say?
 
2010-12-01 12:13:21 PM  
devildog123: What always pissed me off in school when learning about Rosa Parks was that they always tought that she was just tired from a long day at work, and the mean white jerk wouldn't lt her sit down, and this whole thing happend almost by accident.

I was more impressed with her when I found out that this was a planned event, and that she was taking a stand for something she blieved in.

Of course, in America today, it is much better to have a pathetic "victim" than a strong, proud person who just wouldn't take their shait anymore.


I'm not sure what "these days" covers but I am 24 and I was taught (in school) that it was a planned event.

Maybe you are old and mean "way back when" instead of "these days"?
 
2010-12-01 12:14:30 PM  
PDX Ghost Hunter: People talk about segregation as a bad thing. Most races will segregate themselves if you pay attention. Just because you give it a name it's suddenly a bad thing. People of the same race always flock together yet that's OK. Just don't label it because then it's bad.

On the off chance you're not trolling...nah fark it, nobody could be dumb enough to oonflate volutary associational preferences with legally enforced sepraration....
 
2010-12-01 12:15:13 PM  
Well I use Mac/Linux...: MBrady: HumbleGenius: And now the first black president sits at the back of a limo.

Why is someone who is mixed race considered "black?"

Since he has a black father and a white mother, he is just as much white as he is black.

If you take an empty bottle and fill it with equal parts water and piss, is it a bottle of water, or a bottle of piss?


Depends: Does white=water or does white=piss?
 
2010-12-01 12:17:30 PM  
rulestein: This brings up a question, if I am in the big stall of the public bathroom, do I need to give up my seat for the differently-abled?

Not to thread jack, but I always take the handicapped stall. Probably because I like the idea of pooping in my own room. But I wonder if I'm troubling people who actually need the space and handrails that the stall was built for. But I don't wonder enough to take the small stall near the urinals.

This sounds like a bad Deep Thoughts interlude.
 
2010-12-01 12:20:36 PM  
Lumbar Puncture: DavidVincent: But generations of kids were taught the myth

Jesus Christ, that would be terrible to try and teach kids a moral lesson about treating people equally using a mythical figure.


Hehe. Well, interesting example - and it's a fascinating topic. For me I find movements to be very empowering, and something that Americans need to be constantly be reminded of. We live in a time and place where the state is continually seizing more and more control over our rights, our movements and what we see/hear.

I believe that at some point there will have to be a backlash before we are completely "absorbed". The state will never willingly relinquish power. And knowing how movements capitalize on the actions of individuals is a great primer on civil disobedience.
 
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