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(Yahoo)   The John Birch society, a paranoid ultra-right group driven from the mainstream of the GOP by its last true intellectual, William F Buckley, is making a comeback thanks to the Tea Party movement   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 283
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2010-11-29 02:06:14 PM  
heavymetal: Veteran of the Cola Wars: Pocket Ninja: Birch beer is an affront to humanity, and those who associate with it and/or willingly choose it over root beer SHOULD be sought out and driven from our midst whenever possible. There is a war coming, and it's time to choose a side.

Them's fightin' words teeny tiny pocket sized ninja...

Birch beer floats are awesome.

Meh, real men drink Sasparilla.


Can't anymore - the nurses say it angers up the blood.

Sez You!
 
2010-11-29 02:06:42 PM  
FunkOut: Revilo? WTF?

It's like a made up name for a Mediterranean villain.


Haha.
 
2010-11-29 02:06:46 PM  
Secretwar44: Herjafather

Revilo P Oliver---

Beliefs
As might be expected of someone of Oliver's ultraright background, he had some very strong beliefs. Here are some of them.

· The Holocaust was a hoax.
· The white race is more intelligent that the black.
· JFK was assassinated by a Communist plot in cooperation with the CIA.
· JFK was a Communist agent who was assassinated because he was about to "turn American".
· Karl Marx wrote "idiotic mumbo-jumbo."
· All children are born unequal.
· We must encourage intelligent people to reproduce and inhibit those of lesser intelligence from doing so.
· Most "intellectuals" are just "frightened zombies."
· The United Nations is a bunch of subhumans in a glass cage.
· Franklin D. Roosevelt was a "diseased creature" who surrounded himself in the White House with an "appalling gang of degenerates, traitors, and alien subversives."


He looks like a fatter Andrew Ryan.

/is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?
 
2010-11-29 02:07:19 PM  
MorphOSX: This statement is true, and would be more true if it weren't for Sam Colt.

Hey now, some of us were born more equal than others:

img144.imageshack.us

/Mom said she needed stitches 'cause the flint got caught on the way out.
 
2010-11-29 02:08:33 PM  
FDR Jones: dittybopper: Don't tell me I have to be the first to do this.

No, you were the first... the other one is a different song.


Ah, OK. Been a while since I heard it.
 
2010-11-29 02:08:38 PM  
real men prefer an R in their Sarsasparilla
 
2010-11-29 02:08:57 PM  
I have no idea what the John Birch society is, and I'm not going to bother looking it up. I just have a feeling I don't care.
 
2010-11-29 02:09:20 PM  
TomD9938: FTA

Birchers... also have advocated a shift back to the gold standard in the economy and believe that isolationism is the proper foreign policy position. As a whole, the Tea Party movement hasn't weighed in on foreign policy, nor has it endorsed going back to the gold standard,

Two peas in a pod I see.


Don't invoke Sasha Grey in a politics thread.
 
2010-11-29 02:10:24 PM  
interstitialofficial: I have no idea what the John Birch society is, and I'm not going to bother looking it up. I just have a feeling I don't care.

I'm glad you bothered to post that.
 
2010-11-29 02:11:57 PM  
intellectual

i291.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-29 02:12:12 PM  
therealpope: Secretwar44: H

As might be expected of someone of Oliver's ultraright background, he had some very strong beliefs. Here are some of them.

· The Holocaust was a hoax.
· The white race is more intelligent that the black.
· JFK was assassinated by a Communist plot in cooperation with the CIA.
· JFK was a Communist agent who was assassinated because he was about to "turn American".
· Karl Marx wrote "idiotic mumbo-jumbo."
· All children are born unequal.
· We must encourage intelligent people to reproduce and inhibit those of lesser intelligence from doing so.
· Most "intellectuals" are just "frightened zombies."
· The United Nations is a bunch of subhumans in a glass cage.
· Franklin D. Roosevelt was a "diseased creature" who surrounded himself in the White House with an "appalling gang of degenerates, traitors, and alien subversives."

One of those statements is true.


I have to agree, number 7's lookin' mighty good about now

/ah tell you hwat
 
2010-11-29 02:13:18 PM  
I am dying of not surprise. The tea party could be the end of any intelligence in the Republican party. The saddest thing is, this might be what propels them to power...
 
2010-11-29 02:13:45 PM  
yakmans_dad: Lived next door to a Bircher almost 40 years ago. A paranoid SOB who kept an enormous dog in his backyard riled up and barking ALL THE TIME. What could possibly be the point of a watch dog that barked at everything was an object lesson his paranoia never connected to.

Swing and a miss.
 
2010-11-29 02:14:14 PM  
So when are they going to restart HUAC?
 
2010-11-29 02:14:48 PM  
OMG! is it really gonna be 2011?
Are we really being lead by made-for-TV idiots?

I'm a liberal
I hated William F. Buckley
I disagreed with a lot of his views
But,
He had logical reasons for what he thought and what he said

You could have a rational, informed debate, based on facts...
I miss William F. Buckley

hiphappy.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-11-29 02:15:39 PM  
· We must encourage intelligent people to reproduce and inhibit those of lesser intelligence from doing so.
· Most "intellectuals" are just "frightened zombies."


So they're saying we want more frightened zombies?
 
2010-11-29 02:17:10 PM  
Pocket Ninja: Birch beer is an affront to humanity, and those who associate with it and/or willingly choose it over root beer SHOULD be sought out and driven from our midst whenever possible. There is a war coming, and it's time to choose a side.

I stand against you, sir!

I myself find birch beer delicious and superior to ordinary root beer in every way that matters!

Good day to you!
 
2010-11-29 02:17:53 PM  
dittybopper: Don't invoke Sasha Grey in a politics thread

Had to Google.

hmmm...
 
2010-11-29 02:17:57 PM  
sweetmelissa31: So they're saying we want more frightened zombies?

I go to grad school every day carrying a cricket bat just in case.
 
2010-11-29 02:17:59 PM  
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: FTA: "Buckley pushed the John Birch Society and its followers, called 'Birchers,' out of the American conservative movement after the group's founder and leader, Robert Welch, expressed his view that President Dwight D. Eisenhower was a 'dedicated, conscious agent of the Communist conspiracy.'"

Why would the tea party align themselves with a group that called our president as a secret member of a Communist conspir... oh. Nevermind.


President/ex-general EISENHOWER, for that matter.
 
2010-11-29 02:18:18 PM  
Given that the Tea Party Movement is pretty much old-style far-right wing ideology updated to the 21st century with Anti-Semitism replaced with more fashionable and societally acceptable Anti-Islamism and more updated buzzwords it's not a surprise at all.

It's old-school far-right wingnut screed updated for the Fox News generation and being used by nacent Neo-facists ("small government". . . except when it comes to national security, police powers, oppressing gays, banning Islam ect.) to tap the fears and uncertainties of the uneducated and ignorant and manipulate them into supporting their own ideology.
 
2010-11-29 02:19:00 PM  
Anyone ever notice that otherwise intelligent people (engineers, scientists, etc.) really, really get caught up in conspiracy theories?

I wonder if it comes from people accepting what they say as fact by virtue of them being a smart guy, and feeling lauded upon by a subset of our culture that revels in conspiracy theories, no matter how outlandish.
 
2010-11-29 02:21:17 PM  
pickledick: I have to agree, number 7's lookin' mighty good about now

/ah tell you hwat


Yeah dude, Eugenics is such a successful and moral path to go down. It's great that we can accurately define what intelligence is too, it's not subjective whatsoever.
 
2010-11-29 02:21:31 PM  
Has anyone who ever read a book taken John Birch seriously?
 
2010-11-29 02:23:28 PM  
Someone should write a song about this (new window)

Hang on, they have! (new window

/found red stripes on the 'Merican flag... you guys know about Betsy Ross?
 
2010-11-29 02:24:13 PM  
I'm well aware that ad hominum attacks are the weakest form of debate, but then again does anyone ever "win" an argument with an idiot? So I'd just like to say: God damn, but conservatives are just farking stupid. Bless their retarded little hearts. At least they are good for some lulz.
 
2010-11-29 02:25:43 PM  
This story is just another liberal smear. If it were true, why haven't we seen the real Birch certificate?
 
2010-11-29 02:28:10 PM  
birdmanesq: sweetmelissa31: So they're saying we want more frightened zombies?

I go to grad school every day carrying a cricket bat just in case.


Is that some sort of affectation?
 
2010-11-29 02:28:26 PM  
FunkOut: Revilo? WTF?

It's like a made up name for a Mediterranean villain.


I imagine having a first name that's just your last name spelled backward would make anyone crazy.
 
2010-11-29 02:29:49 PM  
FunkOut: Secretwar44: Herjafather



Revilo P Oliver---



Revilo? WTF?

It's like a made up name for a Mediterranean villain.


It's also a palindrome which means either he had very strange parents or he made it up humself
 
2010-11-29 02:31:02 PM  
bigevildan: This story is just another liberal smear. If it were true, why haven't we seen the real Birch certificate?

Oh, bra-vo!
 
2010-11-29 02:31:17 PM  
SnakeLee: Eugenics is such a successful and moral path to go down.

Hey, I wouldn't mind having Eugenie go down on me. She looks good for her age.
 
2010-11-29 02:32:08 PM  
LOL! Bring on the Birchers! They can help educate the moderate voters to just how bat-shiat farking crazy most of the hypocritical bigotry-driven Teabaggers truly are.
Bring them out into the cold, harsh light of reality. Warts and all! Have a good look, folks! They are the REAL core of the Rethuglican Party.

Not that I love Obama. That old boy keeps dropping the ball. But at least the Dems aren't shamelessly racist.
 
2010-11-29 02:33:09 PM  
The Biatch and John society

i977.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-29 02:33:29 PM  
meat0918: Anyone ever notice that otherwise intelligent people (engineers, scientists, etc.) really, really get caught up in conspiracy theories?

I wonder if it comes from people accepting what they say as fact by virtue of them being a smart guy, and feeling lauded upon by a subset of our culture that revels in conspiracy theories, no matter how outlandish.


I've wondered the same thing and I can't help but think that some of these types (engineers especially) have aspergers or some other developmental difference -- they can only understand the world around them when they ascribe some sort of theory to how it works. Everything has to be strict black/white with a cause and effect they can understand. They don't understand people making irrational decisions, so there has to be some underlying organization controlling events.

or they are just bat s&%) crazy
 
2010-11-29 02:33:46 PM  
Veteran of the Cola Wars:
Birch beer floats are awesome.


Sassafrass is superior.
Put 'em up...
Put 'em up.
 
2010-11-29 02:33:51 PM  
bigevildan: This story is just another liberal smear. If it were true, why haven't we seen the real Birch certificate?

It's right here:

www.raritanstamps.com
 
2010-11-29 02:34:19 PM  
The monocle is an affectation. The cricket bat is a sensible precaution.
 
2010-11-29 02:35:31 PM  
I say someone starts a "Jon Birch Society", where men who carry on inappropriate relationships with birch trees get together to practice their love in city parks.
 
2010-11-29 02:35:33 PM  
interstitialofficial: I have no idea what the John Birch society is, and I'm not going to bother looking it up. I just have a feeling I don't care.

Ignorance is bliss! Why remember history? We'll never repeat it, right?
 
2010-11-29 02:35:57 PM  
yellowcat: meat0918: Anyone ever notice that otherwise intelligent people (engineers, scientists, etc.) really, really get caught up in conspiracy theories?

I wonder if it comes from people accepting what they say as fact by virtue of them being a smart guy, and feeling lauded upon by a subset of our culture that revels in conspiracy theories, no matter how outlandish.

I've wondered the same thing and I can't help but think that some of these types (engineers especially) have aspergers or some other developmental difference -- they can only understand the world around them when they ascribe some sort of theory to how it works. Everything has to be strict black/white with a cause and effect they can understand. They don't understand people making irrational decisions, so there has to be some underlying organization controlling events.

or they are just bat s&%) crazy


that's an interesting hypothesis, but it makes sense: very binary thinking.
 
2010-11-29 02:37:18 PM  
MorphOSX: I'm fairly middle of the road, liberal on some things, conservative on others. But even I think we need to GTFO of the United Nations, stop policing the world, and let other nations live or die by their own hands.

Me too.
I get more isolationist every day. If a country wants to trade with us, cool, if not, cool. We'll sell them all the Ipods, Fords, and KFC we have. But I'd just as soon sit back and enjoy the good old USA while everyone else kills each other over their ancient tribal fantasies. Get out of Iraq and Afghanistan NOW.

As for the tea party - I like their current small government focus, and I can see through the media's (and Fark's) focus on the nutjob fringe characters on the edges. But I fear that within two years they'll be all about abortion and gay marriage, at which point, I say fark em.
 
2010-11-29 02:37:23 PM  
Pocket Ninja: Birch beer is an affront to humanity, and those who associate with it and/or willingly choose it over root beer SHOULD be sought out and driven from our midst whenever possible. There is a war coming, and it's time to choose a side.

Meet me in Sioux City on Wednesday. Cook Park. Noon. Under the old Birc- uh... I mean Beech tree. Beech tree. Yeah.

/First rule in Sarsparilla club, yadda yadda yadda....
 
2010-11-29 02:37:47 PM  
The UN was formed so nations could discuss problems in the hope of averting WWIII. Since there has not been a third world war, it is working. Birchers needed straight jackets and rubber rooms. So do teabaggers.
 
2010-11-29 02:37:56 PM  
The John Birch Society: Everything isolationist and Nationalist in one single party. Great, welcome back, guys. The punch is laced, the seats all have two legs half-sawn off, and the entirety of us Libertarians who are between 21 and 40 (and remember WFB saying "I am not a Neo-Con") remember hearing about you guys and the door's over there.

Don't let it hit you. BYE!
 
2010-11-29 02:38:01 PM  
Eisenhower was a communist.
Deal with it.


// at least he wasn't a fascist secret muslim who hated white people though ;)
 
2010-11-29 02:38:53 PM  
Well my two main men are Jesus and old John Birch
So we're goin' on down to the gun sale at the church

/Beet Farmers FTW
 
2010-11-29 02:39:47 PM  
Mumbler: But I fear that within two years they'll be all about abortion and gay marriage

Within two years?
 
2010-11-29 02:40:02 PM  
TomD9938: FTA

Birchers... also have advocated a shift back to the gold standard in the economy and believe that isolationism is the proper foreign policy position. As a whole, the Tea Party movement hasn't weighed in on foreign policy, nor has it endorsed going back to the gold standard,

Two peas in a pod I see.


Is it me or is that "gold standard + isolationism" included as an obvious nod to Ron Paul?
 
2010-11-29 02:41:21 PM  
gshepnyc: But wait! I was told the Tea Party members not on TV, contrary to what everyone was judging to be the case, is made up of intelligent, well educated people.

Fixed it for you.

"OMG Tea Baggers!!!" is quickly becoming the Liberal equivalent of "OMG Terrurists!!"
 
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