Plus, don't pity me here on Fark if you ever hear of my passing. Don't have a party or dig up cards for my husband. You could actually do something now that I would appreciate so much more. Please give to the Juvenile Diabetes Foundation so that they may someday find a cure. Thanks

the lack of understanding and compassion in this thread is downright saddening.
wait til that day that you have a kid that one day all of a sudden has their 'type one' set in and nearly die while they are rushed to the hospital.(like my niece) then they get to test their blood multiple times a day and regulate EVERY GD gram of food that goes into their system SO THEY DON"T DIE.(luckily she survived and it happened early enough in life that she will not really remember not having a pump hooked up to her for the majority of her days)
none of it their fault.
while type 2ers have become 'ill' due to complete diet irresponsibility - which means complete ecological responsibility as well - i.e. eating tons of food that is not really food (but super processed and industrialized product)and damaging to the entire world.(like my dad -0 who has recently had a stroke because he refused to change his lifestyle choices)
which one should i have more compassion for?
which one should get government funding to help with their situation?
education on all fronts is what we need, not stupid smart ass uninformed opinions. we are talking life & death here.



i'd say there is a HUGE difference.

Honest Bender: I'm what is commonly referred to as Type 3 diabetes (My GF has type 1).

Wait so you're a pregnant woman? I thought that's what Type 3 was...

/no need to correct me, I just googled it and figured out what you were talking about. But I've heard gestational diabetes as Type 3 for years, weird how that changes.

How about this name? The makers haven't used it for a while.

sue_phi: the lack of understanding and compassion in this thread is downright saddening.
wait til that day that you have a kid that one day all of a sudden has their 'type one' set in and nearly die while they are rushed to the hospital.(like my niece) then they get to test their blood multiple times a day and regulate EVERY GD gram of food that goes into their system SO THEY DON"T DIE.(luckily she survived and it happened early enough in life that she will not really remember not having a pump hooked up to her for the majority of her days)
none of it their fault.
while type 2ers have become 'ill' due to complete diet irresponsibility - which means complete ecological responsibility as well - i.e. eating tons of food that is not really food (but super processed and industrialized product)and damaging to the entire world.(like my dad -0 who has recently had a stroke because he refused to change his lifestyle choices)
which one should i have more compassion for?
which one should get government funding to help with their situation?
education on all fronts is what we need, not stupid smart ass uninformed opinions. we are talking life & death here.



i'd say there is a HUGE difference.

I don't think anyone is dissing the type 1 people, it is the type 2 that is getting made fun of, scientists say in 30 years 40% of adults will be type 2, no harm in making fun of them

Jesus, can people be this farking stupid?

"Oooh! Diabetes Type 2 is a wuss version only fat people get! I am so butt hurt! Wahhhhhhh!"

Shut. The Fark. Up.

I am a diabetic who takes 150 injections a month. I also have Myasthenia Gravis, so I top that off with over 300 pills a month of Mestonin. If you have a farking disease, hey, that sucks. But if you play this bullsh*t "Nobody thinks my disease is serious because you have a disease too" game...FARK YOU. NO disease is good. ALL diseases need to be dealt with. So deal with it.

/93 units of Humalog a day
/60 units of Lantus a day
/Way too much Mestonin a day
/Is dealing with it

They could re-name it after one of the more famous diabetics. I'd suggest Bret Michaels Disease, but I think that refers to some strain of venarial disease that leads to balding.

Can they just rename Type II "China Buffet Syndrome?"

Yes, having Type I diabetes sucks, especially when people treat you like you brought it on yourself. However, a healthy lifestyle is hugely beneficial regardless, and if you have Type I, eat crap, and don't exercise, you're gonna die a lot faster than if you eat healthy and do exercise. I should know - I watched my sister kill herself by playing games with her blood sugar, eating sweets and taking extra insulin to compensate, then having her blood sugar crash so that my mom had to pour sugar water down her semi-conscious throat to get her blood sugar back up. In the years before she died, she lost sight in one eye, had a quadruple bypass, went on dialysis, and lost pieces of her legs bit by bit. Her hands were going too and if she'd lived a few months longer she'd have gotten to know what it was like to get those amputated too.

The same thing happened to my brother. We both got it as kids but he was defiant. They actually were about ready to cut his arms off but he slipped into a coma and died just before the operation. I truly believe in assisted suicide. No one should have to go through what he went through.

I sound fat: I agree with the statement. Diabetes I is a disease, Diabetes II is a symptom of a crappy lifestyle.

/former type II
//Very preachy about it, I know.

Not this sh*t again. Just because a person's behavior is the cause does not mean that something is not a disease. Melanoma, lung cancer, and type 2 diabetes are all diseases. One can generally avoid them by not getting sun burn, smoking, or having a poor diet and lack of exercise, but they are still diseases.

In my opinion, the ADA does more to benefit Type 1's than does JDRF. JDRF does nothing other than raise money for research. That's good. But, the share of research that is privately funded (whether through JDRF grants or ADA grants) is a drop in the bucket compared to that funded by NIDDK (NIH). The ADA spends a great deal of time, money and energy doing advocacy work on behalf of all people with diabetes. That includes school, insurance, drivers license, concert venue, and workplace discrimination (to name but a few recent issues). To put it simply, JDRF wants a cure (who doesn't) but it does very little to improve the lives of people living with the disease.

Both organizations have their place, but to say that ADA does nothing for Type 1's is simply wrong.

I am a diabetic who takes 150 injections a month. I also have Myasthenia Gravis, so I top that off with over 300 pills a month of Mestonin. If you have a farking disease, hey, that sucks. But if you play this bullsh*t "Nobody thinks my disease is serious because you have a disease too" game...FARK YOU. NO disease is good. ALL diseases need to be dealt with. So deal with it.

I know a girl with Myasthenia Gravis. Just know that there's a special place in heaven for you. xoxoxoxo

Is the TSA giving y'all trouble a super recent thing? My wife is diabetic and wears her pump through the metal detector while I carry the supplies (and insist that the insulin be hand-screened). Besides the occasional eye-roll over the handscreening, we haven't had any trouble. They've never bothered us about the bottle of juice (wifey hates glucose tablets) or even asked for a doctor's note. It's only been a couple of months since we've flown last.

There is a clear difference between the two.

Type 1: auto-immune disease (body attacks pancreas)
Type 2: genetic or lifestyle-induced resistance to insulin.

They will have different cures.

Not giving insulin to a Type 1 will kill them in 30 days or less. Not giving insulin to a Type 2 can go unnoticed for years.

Yeah, it annoys me when people get the two mixed up. But I've done my share of mixing up Australians with New Zealanders, so I guess it's even.

/gotta listen to those close vowels
//and don't get me started on the South Africans

Type I Diabetes = "Why God Why?!" Diabetes
Type II Diabetes = "Shouldn't have been such a lazy fat-ass" Diabetes

What's really bad is when you meet someone, like a new doctor, in the medical profession who doesn't know the difference. That recently happened to me and the piss-head nearly fuacked up my medicare. What an asshole. He wouldn't fess up to his mistake, either. Subsequently, I got a different doctor.

EVERYONE is pre-diabetic.

/yes you are, don't deny it.

SBinRR: FTFA: But nothing irritates her more than having people mistakenly assume she has Type 2 diabetes - and then suggest she "cure herself" by eating less sugar and exercising more.

If she thinks changing the name will stop this, then she's lived a sheltered life. No matter the subject, an "expert" will always offer an opinion on how to improve yourself.
Tell them you've lost 50 pounds? "That's great! Here's what you should do if you REALLY want to take off the weight...."
Tell them you are getting treated for cancer? "You should see my cousin's oncologist. He was cured in 30 days".
Tell them you're putting down new carpet in the bedroom? "You should put down hardwood floors....."

That person will always be there, and when you change the name from Type I Diabeetus to Rainbow Fart Syndrome, they'll still be there, ready to tell you how to handle it in an even better way.

This post would be funnier if you didn't use all those words and had a picture of a cat. My nephew could show you a lot about being funny on the internet.

Not going to lie ... it does annoy me ever so slightly that people think my Type-1 Diabetes was caused by eating the wrong food. The daily injections get old and I never liked the pumps ... :-/ ... At least we don't really have diet restrictions.

/IT'S AN AUTOIMMUNE DISEASE!!

Type 1 shall forever be known as "Skinny Diabetes"
Type 2 shall forever be known as "Diabeetus"

Does that solve their issue?

I don't know why you folks prefer injections...after getting a pump I would never voluntarily go back to dealing with that shiat...and my A1C has improved dramatically. Also, since mine has no tubing or anything I can do pretty much anything I want at the gym or elsewhere. Hell, I wrap the pod in an ACE bandage and it's good to go even in jujitsu.

TheYeti: I don't know why you folks prefer injections...after getting a pump I would never voluntarily go back to dealing with that shiat...and my A1C has improved dramatically. Also, since mine has no tubing or anything I can do pretty much anything I want at the gym or elsewhere. Hell, I wrap the pod in an ACE bandage and it's good to go even in jujitsu.

Because the last time I was on the pump, some little farker decided it would be funny to kick me in my port while I was walking down the street. I nearly passed out from the pain ... christ almighty ...

Lil' Kim Jong Il: Is the TSA giving y'all trouble a super recent thing? My wife is diabetic and wears her pump through the metal detector while I carry the supplies (and insist that the insulin be hand-screened). Besides the occasional eye-roll over the handscreening, we haven't had any trouble. They've never bothered us about the bottle of juice (wifey hates glucose tablets) or even asked for a doctor's note. It's only been a couple of months since we've flown last.

I have never had an issue at an airport either.

/Type 1 for 30 years
//still healthy

I've never had any trouble at the airport, either. I always hand them the doctor's note first thing, without waiting to be asked for it, so maybe that's why. The pump never even sets off the detector, since it's mostly plastic.

I'm a type 2. I have had a lot of people try to tell me how to make myself better, what I can and can't eat, and look down on me for having a disease. My blood sugar levels and everything were fine until I lost A LOT of blood. I almost didn't get to walk at graduation because of all the school I missed trying to get adjusted after being diagnosed. Add that to a cripling fear of needles and it wasn't pretty.

50 units Lantus a day
45+ units Humalog a day.

I once had a coworker yell at me in a store because she saw a wrapped candy bar in my hand. (Not even my candy bar I was buying it as a surprise for my bf at the time)

Just for the record, I couldn't care less what they call it.
\type I diabetic for almost 30 years

Do you ever read something on Fark and just reel from the implications?

When I realize our society is so status conscious and sensitive to stigmas that freaking TYPE 1 DIABETICS are being harassed and emotionally damaged, man, it just makes me want to check out.

I'm sick of this "my vice is better than yours" smug sense of superiority regarding fat people. We are all doing something someone else doesn't approve of. Think about that the next time you have a beer, a smoke, fail to recycle, or jerk it to midget porn.

I don't know why you folks prefer injections...after getting a pump I would never voluntarily go back to dealing with that shiat...and my A1C has improved dramatically. Also, since mine has no tubing or anything I can do pretty much anything I want at the gym or elsewhere. Hell, I wrap the pod in an ACE bandage and it's good to go even in jujitsu.

I tried a sample pod and the adhesive messed with my skin

Lil' Kim Jong Il: Is the TSA giving y'all trouble a super recent thing? My wife is diabetic and wears her pump through the metal detector while I carry the supplies (and insist that the insulin be hand-screened). Besides the occasional eye-roll over the handscreening, we haven't had any trouble. They've never bothered us about the bottle of juice (wifey hates glucose tablets) or even asked for a doctor's note. It's only been a couple of months since we've flown last.

I have never had an issue at an airport either.

/Type 1 for 30 years
//still healthy

Guess you missed this Fark article last week

http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=5765218

I've been messed with before over my syringes not only by the TSA but the National Guard gropers at the gates to the Winter Olympics venues in Salt Lake City in '02...twice.

J.Garcia'sRightMiddleFinger: I sound fat: I agree with the statement. Diabetes I is a disease, Diabetes II is a symptom of a crappy lifestyle.

/former type II
//Very preachy about it, I know.

Not this sh*t again. Just because a person's behavior is the cause does not mean that something is not a disease. Melanoma, lung cancer, and type 2 diabetes are all diseases. One can generally avoid them by not getting sun burn, smoking, or having a poor diet and lack of exercise, but they are still diseases.

Work for big pharma, do you?

I didnt say it wasnt a problem. I didnt say it was necessarily anyones fault. I said it wasnt a disease. It is a symptom of something else.

type II diabetes itself does not kill you. It does LEAD to things that harm the body, however since it is itself a symptom, it doesent actually cause the problems. Whatever the mental/phyisical issue that is causing their Diabetes II does cause those problems. Thus that cause IS a disease, while Diabetes II is a SYMPTOM of that disease. We need to treat causes, but its more profitable to call the symptom a disease and sell medication and testing strips.

If you visit a hospital, 90 percent of the patients in there are getting 80 dollar blood screens every 3 hours whether they need them or not. In this case, there is litterally no money in teaching someone to get well, but lots of money to be made if you invent and promote a disease.

/Id make fun of me for this rambling if I hadnt experienced it myself
//Join a crossfit box. Cure your Non-Jay-Cutler type diabetes.

Prank Call of Cthulhu: Type I = "Diabetes"
Type II = "The Diabeetus" or maybe just "The 'eetus"

Examples: "I must go check my insulin levels, for I have diabetes."
"Just one more dougnut; I gots the 'eetus."

Came here to say this.

Diabetes already has 2 names, why not just apply them to type 1 and 2?

I have had Type 1 for close to 22 years. I have had some very bleak diagnoses even though I have taken pretty good care of it since I broke out of the rebellious teenage years.

I hate the confusion of type 1 and type 2 because often people DO get on my case without realizing I could not have prevented the diabetes or they tell me about this lovely new treatment and I look it up and go waaah! Well, I used to, but now I pretty much go "That sounds like it's for type 2."

I think a different name would be practical. If I donate to diabetes research I expect to give my money to help a disease I do not have unless its specifically for the JDF.

For good type 1 diabetes control you have to dedicate a large part of your life to controlling it. I am trying to arrange some sort of insurance so that I can get on something besides Humulin 70/30 which is haphazard at best. Right now I am on a low carbohydrate, fat-moderated diet. It's one of the easiest ways to keep the sugar in check as carbs turn into sugar. I have greatly reduced the amount of insulin I need to take. Too bad Lantus/Humalog or a pump are not affordable to the uninsured.
I am looking forward to finding some way to step up my care plan. I had some scares, but my doctors say I have a long, reasonably healthy life ahead of me if I keep doing what I am doing.

AND ITS NOT THE EETUS YOU C***SUCKER!

/SORRY HYPOGLYCEMIA
/Just Kidding!

goddessoffunk: I have had Type 1 for close to 22 years. I have had some very bleak diagnoses even though I have taken pretty good care of it since I broke out of the rebellious teenage years.

I hate the confusion of type 1 and type 2 because often people DO get on my case without realizing I could not have prevented the diabetes or they tell me about this lovely new treatment and I look it up and go waaah! Well, I used to, but now I pretty much go "That sounds like it's for type 2."

I think a different name would be practical. If I donate to diabetes research I expect to give my money to help a disease I do not have unless its specifically for the JDF.

For good type 1 diabetes control you have to dedicate a large part of your life to controlling it. I am trying to arrange some sort of insurance so that I can get on something besides Humulin 70/30 which is haphazard at best. Right now I am on a low carbohydrate, fat-moderated diet. It's one of the easiest ways to keep the sugar in check as carbs turn into sugar. I have greatly reduced the amount of insulin I need to take. Too bad Lantus/Humalog or a pump are not affordable to the uninsured.
I am looking forward to finding some way to step up my care plan. I had some scares, but my doctors say I have a long, reasonably healthy life ahead of me if I keep doing what I am doing.

AND ITS NOT THE EETUS YOU C***SUCKER!

/SORRY HYPOGLYCEMIA
/Just Kidding!

I'm on a deductible HSA Insurance plan, so I pay retail for my meds until I hit my $3500 deductible.

Lantus is about $110/10mL vial and Humalog is roughly the same at retail cost. I'm at 35 units/day for Lantus and somewhere between 20-30 units/day for Humalog depending on my diet.

They aren't as expensive as you think, but it's still pretty damn expensive. Right now, I use the Humalog Qwikpens, which are about $240 for a month's supply, but the advantage of using screw tip needles and the pen form factor is WELL worth the extra price.

Lil' Kim Jong Il: They've never bothered us about the bottle of juice (wifey hates glucose tablets) or even asked for a doctor's note.
Has she tried them recently? When I was diagnosed 15 years ago, I didn't care for them, either. Rather tasted like fruit-flavored chalk. However, now they taste more like SweeTarts, IMHO. Also, they now have liquid and paste glucose, as well, in convenient travel tubes. No idea how those taste, though. I just picked up a thing that goes on my keychain and holds four of the tablets. Between that and a travel tube in my car, I'm good to go.

/Type I, on Lantus and Novolog

Pretty sad indictment of our fat nation.

Can't call type II "adult onset" anymore, as teenagers and even younger are being diagnosed. Makes me throw up in my mouth just thinking about it.

I saw this stat just a few months ago.

In 1991, the fattest state was Mississippi. Obseity rate was 15.3%.

In 2009, the healthiest state was Colorado. Obesity rate was the same 15ish%.

robbrie: Pretty sad indictment of our fat nation.

Can't call type II "adult onset" anymore, as teenagers and even younger are being diagnosed. Makes me throw up in my mouth just thinking about it.

I saw this stat just a few months ago.

In 1991, the fattest state was Mississippi. Obseity rate was 15.3%.

In 2009, the healthiest state was Colorado. Obesity rate was the same 15ish%.


Do you have a link to those stats? My first thought is that the definition of "obesity" has been a moving target in recent years, so it might not have meant the same thing in the 1991 study as in the 2009 study.

Not that I doubt the nation's getting fatter, but today's healthiest state having the same obesity rate as the least-healthy state from less than 20 years ago seems a little suspicious.

Diabetes Platinum?

Satanicpuppy: I don't know, I'd probably be pissed too.

"Oh, you have diabetes...You know I heard that a lot of times it's caused by being fat."

"NO farkER! THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY PANCREAS!!!!! GRAAAA!"

Coming in late, but this is pretty much it.

/Type 1
//Developed it at 38, so not juvenile onset.
///Although I am kind of juvenile

ScottRiqui: Do you have a link to those stats? My first thought is that the definition of "obesity" has been a moving target in recent years, so it might not have meant the same thing in the 1991 study as in the 2009 study.

Not that I doubt the nation's getting fatter, but today's healthiest state having the same obesity rate as the least-healthy state from less than 20 years ago seems a little suspicious.

Didn't quite get the numbers right, but the premise is correct.

http://healthyamericans.org/reports/obesity2010/

"In 1991, no state had an obesity rate above 20 percent...In 2009, the only state with obesity rate lower than 20 percent is Colorado."

sue_phi: the lack of understanding and compassion in this thread is downright saddening.
wait til that day that you have a kid that one day all of a sudden has their 'type one' set in and nearly die while they are rushed to the hospital.(like my niece) then they get to test their blood multiple times a day and regulate EVERY GD gram of food that goes into their system SO THEY DON"T DIE.(luckily she survived and it happened early enough in life that she will not really remember not having a pump hooked up to her for the majority of her days)
none of it their fault.
while type 2ers have become 'ill' due to complete diet irresponsibility - which means complete ecological responsibility as well - i.e. eating tons of food that is not really food (but super processed and industrialized product)and damaging to the entire world.(like my dad -0 who has recently had a stroke because he refused to change his lifestyle choices)
which one should i have more compassion for?
which one should get government funding to help with their situation?
education on all fronts is what we need, not stupid smart ass uninformed opinions. we are talking life & death here.

i'd say there is a HUGE difference.

Welcome to Fark.

ScottRiqui: Prank Call of Cthulhu: Type I = "Diabetes"
Type II = "The Diabeetus" or maybe just "The 'eetus"

Examples: "I must go check my insulin levels, for I have diabetes."
"Just one more dougnut; I gots the 'eetus."


Thanks - I just had someone from the other wing of the building come to my office to see what I was laughing at.

Thanks for the sponsorship, dude.

Calipataa: /Type 1
//Developed it at 38, so not juvenile onset.
///Although I am kind of juvenile

Dude...me, too. I mean, I was younger than that, but it was pretty latent.