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(Fox News)   Military develops system to track every car in a city in real time. Says "It can't be used for civilian purposes." In other news, several months ago, military touts applications for civilian purposes   (foxnews.com ) divider line
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2003-07-01 10:12:38 PM  
Nothing but good things can come of this one.
 
2003-07-01 11:34:27 PM  
Everything you think do and say
Is in the bill you did today
 
2003-07-02 12:32:14 AM  
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2003-07-02 12:58:32 AM  
This is seriously getting farking creepy. The US is turning into 1984 :/.
 
2003-07-02 01:14:53 AM  
Holy fark.... This can't be good.
 
2003-07-02 01:15:27 AM  
That UNA-bomber guy looks less nutty every day.
 
2003-07-02 01:16:24 AM  
They've been playing to much Grand Theft Auto.
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BTW kiddies, there were GTA games before Grand Theft Auto Three.
 
2003-07-02 01:17:28 AM  
Yeah Skywalker1122 like GTA1, GTA london missions, & GTA 2. As for the feds, I'm moving to Canada soon as they figure out that pesky marijuana problem.
 
2003-07-02 01:22:02 AM  
You see, the 4th amendment is a lot like Santa Claus...
 
2003-07-02 01:22:31 AM  
I miss the old GTA's... for some reason a top-down view and really cartoony feel made the whole thing more easy to laugh at.
 
2003-07-02 01:22:52 AM  
Orwellian nightmare?

Only when computers and televisions become telescreens...

I think they are getting close though, at least that's what my alluminum radar told me!
 
2003-07-02 01:23:08 AM  
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2003-07-02 01:23:10 AM  
Can't do anything about the license plate, but super dark tinting, and a Mitsubishi Eclipse/Plymouth Laser/Eagle Talon (GSX preferrably) would possibly fool them. And if they depend on the shape of the car to keep track of people...


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they have their work cut out for them. (That's a Toyota MR2 by the way.)
 
2003-07-02 01:24:11 AM  
It's Skynet I tells ya!!

/just got back from T3
 
2003-07-02 01:25:53 AM  
We have to start mobilizing the human rebel forces before.... it's too late and they take over. I elect Drew.
 
2003-07-02 01:26:31 AM  
It won't work.
 
2003-07-02 01:26:34 AM  
"The military calls the system SkyNet," said DARPA spokeswoman Jan Walker.
 
SGF
2003-07-02 01:28:37 AM  
Does it also track civil rights on their way to history?
 
2003-07-02 01:30:41 AM  
Really, can you trust any goverment agency stupid enough to represent itself like this:

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?

War is peace!
 
2003-07-02 01:32:19 AM  
How did Rome fall again?
 
2003-07-02 01:32:55 AM  
chakalakasp: Did someone say photoshop?
 
2003-07-02 01:33:01 AM  
Speaking of T3, Setinotathome I just got back from that.

I welcome that future over this BS. Seriously, this is gayer than fighting robots in the future. At least we know the humans win that one. We're shafted with this.
 
2003-07-02 01:33:44 AM  
Dubbed "Combat Zones That See," the project is designed to help the U.S. military protect troops and fight in cities overseas.

"Combat Urban Neighborhoods That See" makes for a much better name. and acronym.
 
2003-07-02 01:37:02 AM  
This reminds me of the movie "Danger! Death Ray" where a scientist creates a death ray and insists that it will only be used for peaceful purposes. Yeah right.

Welcome to the future folks!
 
2003-07-02 01:38:27 AM  
I see a potential market for tinfoil hats here.
 
2003-07-02 01:40:33 AM  
I can't believe all of you actually believe that the United States Government would use this technology to spy on its populace. Surely Bush, Ashcroft and Rumsfeld would never do such a thing. They are noble and honorable souls.
 
2003-07-02 01:42:38 AM  
I'm painting my car various shades of asphalt.
 
2003-07-02 01:43:17 AM  
But, if they do, they are only trying to protect us from ourselves.
 
2003-07-02 01:43:45 AM  
rightmindx and of course, no government agency has a history of randomly spying upon people for no reason and using that information for personal gain.

/Hoover
 
2003-07-02 01:45:25 AM  
/sarcasm
 
2003-07-02 01:50:30 AM  
"creating a computerized diary that would record and analyze everything a person says, sees, hears, reads or touches."

Actually, this could come in handy in morning-after scenarios in which you wake up with a massive headache and say, "oh man, i was so wasted last night. what the fark did i do?" now you can find out. thank you government, thank you.
 
2003-07-02 01:50:36 AM  
I'd like to have access to this technology to spy on my local pizza delivery dude....who is always farkin' late.

mmm...pizza radar technology.
 
2003-07-02 01:51:57 AM  
Both configurations will be tested at Ft. Belvoir, Va., south of Washington, then in a foreign city.

I guess it would be a good idea to stay off Route 1 near Alexandria, VA.
 
2003-07-02 01:55:08 AM  
I'm sure I don't need to remind you guys about the first rule of Fight Club.
 
2003-07-02 01:55:55 AM  
I wouldn't worry about it too much. This sounds completely impractical. It's very difficult to track a three-dimensional object from camera to camera, simply because of the different viewing angles involved. And even if they could do that, there's no way it could be done on a large scale with huge numbers of objects per frame, such as in downtown London or New York; objects which are distinct in one camera would be partially or totally overlapped in other cameras. And even if they could do that , the processing power required to do this in real time and the storage space required to store at least the previous hour would be prohibitive. And I haven't even mentioned the problems with tracking people, who come in many more shapes and sizes than cars, who can move in all sorts of directions other than a straight line, and who are essentially impossible to distinguish due to the resolution limitations of the cameras being used.
 
2003-07-02 01:57:13 AM  
Wow! This big brother shiat is getting to be hilarious if it weren't so terrifying. So any mechanics out there wanna start making a few bucks taking these out of cars? I have a feeling you would have some customers. Me for one.

/the tinfoil hat does nothing
 
2003-07-02 01:58:52 AM  
...and is there any way in hell people are fooled by this stupid "Internet Washer" ad I get on the page, the one that looks like a Win2K command-line shell with a frickin GUI button smack in the middle? And never mind that I'm running Linux so both the point and the design of the add are completely idiotic...
 
2003-07-02 02:01:06 AM  
speedfreakR34 - I don't think you need a body kit to disguise an MR2. Most people think it's a del Sol anyway.
 
2003-07-02 02:02:41 AM  
Good job, government.

Oh, by the way, where's Osama Bin Laden?
 
2003-07-02 02:02:43 AM  
*disables proxomitron*

kurt-roges oh, that ad. Yeah, I'm about as likely to click that ad as respond to the emails telling me they can find all the hidden porn on my hard drive.

I worked damn hard putting the porn there, I don't need them to get rid of it.
 
2003-07-02 02:04:35 AM  
Kurt-Roges:

The government has had spy cameras that can read regular 12pt.newsaper text from a satellite for over a decade. they can do this from a technical standpoint, though you may be right of the prohibitive storage space for high-res recordings..
 
2003-07-02 02:04:37 AM  
Thank god the government is coming up with this crap. I feel safer every day.
 
2003-07-02 02:08:07 AM  
This just in.....
Everyone will be executed for our own safety.
 
2003-07-02 02:11:55 AM  
thecactusman17: Those are the most expensive cameras in the world, and unless I'm mistaken are only take still images. What I was getting at is that to deploy this on any significant scale there's no way they'd get the super spy cameras you read about in Tom Clancy books; the article said they planned to use USD$400 cameras, which when mounted on the top of utility poles is not going to provide the best in image quality.
 
2003-07-02 02:16:54 AM  
well if TooStupidTooCare posted, it MUST be serious. j/k. nice A. ( short for acronym )


Expect to see duncanIdaho walking around with his personal gas powered generator and HEPA vaccuum cleaner disrupting them cameras and signals and whatnot.
 
2003-07-02 02:18:30 AM  
why doesn't this have the "SCARY" tag?
 
2003-07-02 02:32:42 AM  
All you people who are frightened by this must have something to hide.
 
2003-07-02 02:36:29 AM  
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2003-07-02 02:40:06 AM  
All you people who are frightened by this must have something to hide.

I can imagine the army-dad in American Beauty saying that ...


/South Park Second Season DVD
 
2003-07-02 02:40:37 AM  
infinitywaltz damn right.
 
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