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(Fox News)   It official, now the TSA can unionize. What could POSSIBLY go wrong with that?   (nation.foxnews.com ) divider line
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2010-11-18 12:48:33 PM  
They could collectively bargain against rules that have them grabbing the crotches of air travelers?
 
2010-11-18 01:07:35 PM  

JerseyTim: They could collectively bargain against rules that have them grabbing the crotches of air travelers?


Done in one. This is exactly what I was going to say. They can also bargain against having to view pornography as a part of their job (hostile work environment...), or being irradiated.
 
2010-11-18 01:13:59 PM  
I don't see why they should be treated differently than any other Fed worker (which, IIRC, can unionize).

The bigger problem is that the TSA shouldn't exist at all. Eliminate the TSA, and the problem of them wanting to unionize goes away.
 
2010-11-18 01:14:18 PM  
What official? Such official.
 
2010-11-18 01:14:22 PM  
We could have set the TSA up as a crack law enforcement force with high educational and moral standards.

Instead, we chose to make it a bunch of rent-a-cops with GED's who can detain you, harrass you, and completely fark up your life.

Good choice, America!
 
2010-11-18 01:14:37 PM  

JerseyTim: They could collectively bargain against rules that have them grabbing the crotches of air travelers?


this.

is today TSA day?
 
2010-11-18 01:14:48 PM  
Is this going to be another one of those threads where unions are evil and private business can do no wrong?
 
2010-11-18 01:15:13 PM  
They can bargain for minimum patting time, minimum viewing time, for free supply of ky, and for higher resolution monitors.
 
2010-11-18 01:15:37 PM  
They strike and you can get on a plane without a freedom scan or a freedom grope.
 
2010-11-18 01:16:17 PM  
They'd attract a better caliber of employees who expect fair wages and health benefits?
 
2010-11-18 01:17:07 PM  
I know some TSA guys. They are the laziest guys on the planet. Unionizing couldn't make them work any less hard.
 
2010-11-18 01:19:04 PM  
Nappy and Obaggie!
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Heckuva job Nappy!
 
2010-11-18 01:19:55 PM  
Sounds like a great idea to me. In the war between American citizens and overreaching feds, TSA workers are the public face receiving the brunt of the ire. They deserve to unionize to protect themselves from their douchebag bosses and fed-up Americans. The TSA can't force bullshiat regulations if their employee union refuses to carry them out
 
2010-11-18 01:20:51 PM  

someonelse: What official? Such official.


Casablanca?
 
2010-11-18 01:20:57 PM  

Treygreen13: I know some TSA guys. They are the laziest guys on the planet. Unionizing couldn't make them work any less hard.


Do you want them to work hard tough? A gentle grope you can live with, specially if you are a guy, but a hard squeeze?

I say, make it a rule that only hot chicks can work as TSA agents and all problem will go away and guys will be lining up for air travel.
 
2010-11-18 01:21:32 PM  

RockIsDead: Nappy and Obaggie!


Heckuva job Nappy!


Incoherent as always. Way to not disappoint.
 
2010-11-18 01:22:44 PM  
Yes, because it's the low-level workers who are the problem, not the upper management types who force them to rape people.


Anti-union rhetoric is so old and tired. Get a new hobby.
 
2010-11-18 01:24:06 PM  

RockIsDead: Nappy and Obaggie!


Heckuva job Nappy!


Im going to interpret this as an extremely subtle and well thought out David Bowie reference. At least this wont make you look stupid in my mind.
 
2010-11-18 01:25:44 PM  

MithrandirBooga: Yes, because it's the low-level workers who are the problem, not the upper management types who force them to rape people.


Anti-union rhetoric is so old and tired. Get a new hobby.

 
2010-11-18 01:25:57 PM  

Lumpmoose: Sounds like a great idea to me. In the war between American citizens and overreaching feds, TSA workers are the public face receiving the brunt of the ire. They deserve to unionize to protect themselves from their douchebag bosses and fed-up Americans. The TSA can't force bullshiat regulations if their employee union refuses to carry them out


Their very existence is a bullshiat regulation. Will the union lobby for discorporation of its members?
 
2010-11-18 01:27:25 PM  

MithrandirBooga: Yes, because it's the low-level workers who are the problem, not the upper management types who force them to rape people.


It is the low-level workers who needlessly and incoherently yell randomly.

I saw a TSA agent who kept yelling at an indian woman traveling with her family. She obviously couldn't comprehend exactly what he was telling her to do, so instead of helping her, he just kept yelling obtuse instructions mocking her.
 
2010-11-18 01:27:30 PM  

someonelse: What official? Such official.


It am fox news viewer what am write headline.
 
2010-11-18 01:29:09 PM  

coxinha: They'd attract a better caliber of employees who expect fair wages and health benefits?


Wages/benefits is only one dimension involved in attracting the right people.

Do Financial Incentives Drive Company Performance? An Evidence-Based Approach to Motivation and Rewards (pdf)
 
2010-11-18 01:31:17 PM  
I am sincerely curious: What COULD possibly go wrong with the TSA being able to unionize? What's the worst-case scenario?
 
2010-11-18 01:32:03 PM  

nevirus: I am sincerely curious: What COULD possibly go wrong with the TSA being able to unionize? What's the worst-case scenario?


Soshulizm
 
2010-11-18 01:32:15 PM  
wow, i never thought people could be more derpy than RockisDead, GaryPDX et al. then i bothered to read the comments on a Fox news article
 
2010-11-18 01:32:52 PM  
As someone who is going into labor law this makes me happy. Murdering unions in CBA negotiations has always been a dream of mine, but it as fading this year because only 8% of US workers are unionized. There is hope.

/...and change.
 
2010-11-18 01:33:25 PM  

jackiepaper: wow, i never thought people could be more derpy than RockisDead, GaryPDX et al. then i bothered to read the comments on a Fox news article


Fox News comments are like Youtube comments for dittoheads.
 
2010-11-18 01:33:56 PM  

nevirus: I am sincerely curious: What COULD possibly go wrong with the TSA being able to unionize? What's the worst-case scenario?


Yet another way for a union strike to shut down air travel? The TSA hires friends and promotes on the basis of seniority instead of hiring qualified applicants and promoting based on performance?
 
2010-11-18 01:34:15 PM  

nevirus: I am sincerely curious: What COULD possibly go wrong with the TSA being able to unionize? What's the worst-case scenario?


The airport security lines will go from one person moving you through the line with 4 people watching the luggage monitor, to having one person move you through the line with 4 people watching the luggage monitor while eating union mandated cheeseburgers.
 
2010-11-18 01:34:34 PM  

Stylux: As someone who is going into labor law this makes me happy. Murdering unions in CBA negotiations has always been a dream of mine, but it as fading this year because only 8% of US workers are unionized. There is hope.

/...and change.


Right on! Way to stick it to American workers! You are Winnar!
 
2010-11-18 01:34:55 PM  
GAAAHHHHH!!!!!!


ONIONS!! ONIONS TERRIFY ME!!!2!!!1

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/oh. unions.

Meh. They're not so scary.
 
2010-11-18 01:34:57 PM  

All2morrowsparTs: nevirus: I am sincerely curious: What COULD possibly go wrong with the TSA being able to unionize? What's the worst-case scenario?

Soshulizm


They could go on strike and then who would grab my balls???
 
2010-11-18 01:35:34 PM  

Donald_McRonald: jackiepaper: wow, i never thought people could be more derpy than RockisDead, GaryPDX et al. then i bothered to read the comments on a Fox news article

Fox News comments are like Youtube comments for dittoheads.


Have you read the Yahoo comments lately?
 
2010-11-18 01:35:53 PM  

nevirus: I am sincerely curious: What COULD possibly go wrong with the TSA being able to unionize? What's the worst-case scenario?


The union could be commandeered by NAMBLA.
 
2010-11-18 01:37:54 PM  
Oh, and George Soros will force them to all unionize with the SEIU and THEN SOMETHING HORRIBLE WILL HAPPEN
 
2010-11-18 01:39:01 PM  

coxinha: They'd attract a better caliber of employees who expect fair wages and health benefits?


they already get fair wage and benefits for a job a retarted monkey can do.


YoMammaObama: nevirus: I am sincerely curious: What COULD possibly go wrong with the TSA being able to unionize? What's the worst-case scenario?

Yet another way for a union strike to shut down air travel? The TSA hires friends and promotes on the basis of seniority instead of hiring qualified applicants and promoting based on performance?


right now it is very toutgh to fire TSA employees who harass people, steal from people, don't do their job, etc. With a union firing them will be ven more difficult.
 
2010-11-18 01:40:00 PM  
Oh great..... now we will never be rid of the TSA.
 
2010-11-18 01:41:09 PM  
They could go on strike and Reagan could fire all of them?
 
2010-11-18 01:41:44 PM  

MithrandirBooga: Yes, because it's the low-level workers who are the problem, not the upper management types who force them to rape people.


Anti-union rhetoric is so old and tired. Get a new hobby.


We the people are the government, and we would never grope people.

/By "upper management," do you mean government bureaucrats?
 
2010-11-18 01:43:00 PM  

1derful: nevirus: I am sincerely curious: What COULD possibly go wrong with the TSA being able to unionize? What's the worst-case scenario?

The union could be commandeered by NAMBLA.


Well, at least then they wouldn't be interested in touching my junk.
 
2010-11-18 01:43:17 PM  
Lumpmoose 2010-11-18 01:19:55 PM Sounds like a great idea to me. In the war between American citizens and overreaching feds, TSA workers are the public face receiving the brunt of the ire. They deserve to unionize to protect themselves from their douchebag bosses and fed-up Americans. The TSA can't force bullshiat regulations if their employee union refuses to carry them out
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If it means this, yes. If it means that they're unionizing to make it extremely hard for anyone to sue them so they CAN strip search you, then we're in trouble.

Ticky-tacky.
 
2010-11-18 01:44:33 PM  

YoMammaObama: The TSA hires friends and promotes on the basis of seniority instead of hiring qualified applicants and promoting based on performance?


You're suggesting that the current crop of TSA employees could somehow be worse?

Yet another way for a union strike to shut down air travel?

I could see this happening, but I would approve of that tactic if it resulted in less groping and more common sense. I'm sure the majority of TSA agents don't really like groping grandma too much.
 
2010-11-18 01:44:59 PM  
Why not make the TSA work on commission.

Every bomb/weapon they confiscate they get paid.

At least give these mouthbreathers some proper compensation.
 
2010-11-18 01:45:15 PM  

jake3988:

If it means this, yes. If it means that they're unionizing to make it extremely hard for anyone to sue them so they CAN strip search you, then we're in trouble.

Ticky-tacky.


Being unionized or not will have no bearing on your ability to sue the TSA.
 
2010-11-18 01:45:26 PM  
The corporations will take care of your interests, dear employee.
 
2010-11-18 01:45:29 PM  
Didn't they already threaten this like 8 months ago? We'll wait and see what happens when/if this airport drops the TSA (new window).

Who cares if they unionize if other airports just follow suit and drop them. At least it isn't like the public transportation unions that force justification of their existence by strangling a city. Hell, if the TSA went on strike I would expect much rejoicing...
 
2010-11-18 01:46:39 PM  
BTW, the Fox article is actually to another story on The Washington Post.

Rupert "Pay Wall" Murdoch!
 
2010-11-18 01:46:56 PM  

liam76: coxinha: They'd attract a better caliber of employees who expect fair wages and health benefits?

they already get fair wage and benefits for a job a retarted monkey can do.


YoMammaObama: nevirus: I am sincerely curious: What COULD possibly go wrong with the TSA being able to unionize? What's the worst-case scenario?

Yet another way for a union strike to shut down air travel? The TSA hires friends and promotes on the basis of seniority instead of hiring qualified applicants and promoting based on performance?

right now it is very toutgh to fire TSA employees who harass people, steal from people, don't do their job, etc. With a union firing them will be ven more difficult.


Calling bullshiat on that last comment. It really isn't difficult to fire an employee for "just cause" which is basically just about anything under the sun. The Admin Law Judge or NLRB usually only have issues when there are unfair labor practices in violation of section 7 rights which show a clear anti-union animus.

Still, I find myself confused as they work for the Feds they should be exempted from claiming NLRA protections under Section 2(2) considering their employer is the Federal Gov't. Cited in part - "[an employer] shall not include the United States or any wholly owned Government corporation, or any Federal Reserve Bank, or any State or political subdivision thereof, or any person subject to the Railway Labor Act..."

/Vexed
 
2010-11-18 01:47:20 PM  

Hank Rearden: Why not make the TSA work on commission.

Every bomb/weapon they confiscate they get paid.

At least give these mouthbreathers some proper compensation.


There's no way this could backfire!
 
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