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(Some Guy)   The story of MoH recipient, SSG Sal Giunta, as told by himself when he doesn't have to worry about the censors on 60 Minutes, or insulting the President. Not safe for work Language   (restrepothemovie.com) divider line 317
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2010-11-17 04:07:17 PM  
JohnFernelius: Do people really cry when they see this stuff? I was certainly impressed, and the man is a hero in every way.

Still, I didn't break down in tears. I'm a grown man sad whining 12 y/o and some of these comments are baffling. Not even Giunta is crying.


Troll eyes see what they want, or you're a farking retard and didn't watch the video.
 
2010-11-17 04:07:26 PM  
Trance354: anyone have the transcript? work filter says NO!

Submit a help request from IT asking why they hate America.
 
2010-11-17 04:10:05 PM  
I must have missed the insult to the President.
 
2010-11-17 04:13:07 PM  
To the service people who signed up to kill and be killed in a war with no clear purpose, because the military's pay and benefits looked better than anything else their country was offering: I salute you.
 
2010-11-17 04:13:08 PM  
Damn.
 
2010-11-17 04:13:23 PM  
Iowa representing.
 
2010-11-17 04:13:25 PM  
this_is_ace: This needs to be green. Get off your asses, mods.

yes SIR idiot SIR!!!
 
2010-11-17 04:13:33 PM  
He's humble, heroic and handsome as all get out. If he wasn't married, he'd be pulling women off of him with a cro-bar.
 
2010-11-17 04:13:54 PM  
Can't wait to see this
 
2010-11-17 04:15:31 PM  
Wombatzu: I must have missed the insult to the President.

Q: So what did you feel when you heard you were winning the MoH?
Giunta: fark you.
 
2010-11-17 04:16:17 PM  
Sadly, this douchebag thinks differently

Link (new window)

Farkers unite to destroy the moron!
 
2010-11-17 04:16:36 PM  
This guy, this Sal Giunta. He is my newest hero. What humility! What an awesome guy. Thank God Almighty for guys like him. He has earned my depest respect, and it would be my pleasure to render him a salute some day.
 
2010-11-17 04:16:40 PM  
bookmark.
 
2010-11-17 04:17:19 PM  
When they speak about the engagement and describe the darkness, why is the film shot in broad daylight?
 
2010-11-17 04:18:03 PM  
Dr. Mojo PhD: Christian Bale: AntiNerd: So what do all the Fark Independents (tm) here think of the new conservative position on this recognition?

Tough Talk from a TRUE American. (new window)

Personally, I just don't see how people like Bryan Fischer are tolerated in civilized society, much less elected to office. But that's the American right wing for you today.

Why yes I think that IS a troll. I didn't mean it. I think.


Not surprising. They'd probably look at those guys who got wounded and give them the little band aids with the purple heart on it. That's apparently the level of respect they have for our wounded veterans.

Is this really the thread to start a political pissing match in?


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2010-11-17 04:18:26 PM  
JohnFernelius: Do people really cry when they see this stuff? I was certainly impressed, and the man is a hero in every way.

Still, I didn't break down in tears. I'm a grown man and some of these comments are baffling. Not even Giunta is crying.


I did because I think of the sacrifice he and his friends made, and it makes me sad and proud and a whole host of other emotions. I also did because while it wasn't nearly as intense, it brought back memories of my times in combat, and a friend I lost (not through bullets, but a suicide after the Gulf War). So, you see, some of us have different experiences to draw from, that bring on different emotions. If you don't, so be it, but you don't need to call us out on it if we want to express ourselves. Besides - you need to be at the gym in 26 minutes, don't you?
 
2010-11-17 04:18:31 PM  
I for one am very glad that this went to an enlisted servicemember. There are way too many officer ribbon chasers and way too many people who look the other way. The enlisted do the real work.

/officers shouldn't even get ribbons and medals
 
2010-11-17 04:19:18 PM  
JohnFernelius: Do people really cry when they see this stuff? I was certainly impressed, and the man is a hero in every way.

Still, I didn't break down in tears. I'm a grown man and some of these comments are baffling. Not even Giunta is crying.


People who are controlled by emotions (women, gays) cry about stuff like this.
 
2010-11-17 04:19:40 PM  
wee: Loved the painting metaphor, too.

+1
 
2010-11-17 04:20:17 PM  
He is highly attractive.
 
2010-11-17 04:22:13 PM  
FilmBELOH20: JohnFernelius: Do people really cry when they see this stuff? I was certainly impressed, and the man is a hero in every way.

Still, I didn't break down in tears. I'm a grown man and some of these comments are baffling. Not even Giunta is crying.

I did because I think of the sacrifice he and his friends made, and it makes me sad and proud and a whole host of other emotions. I also did because while it wasn't nearly as intense, it brought back memories of my times in combat, and a friend I lost (not through bullets, but a suicide after the Gulf War). So, you see, some of us have different experiences to draw from, that bring on different emotions. If you don't, so be it, but you don't need to call us out on it if we want to express ourselves. Besides - you need to be at the gym in 26 minutes, don't you?


But even the soldier is not crying about it. I am sure he was more hurt and lost more than you losing your one friend (to suicide, not even from the war).
 
2010-11-17 04:22:52 PM  
JohnFernelius: Still, I didn't break down in tears. I'm a grown man and some of these comments are baffling. Not even Giunta is crying.

My first reaction was to simply post "you sound civilian," but after some more thought I realize that not everyone has the same reaction to things like this. Perhaps you should come to that understanding as well.

I can name a number of things that cause me to tear up fairly quickly: Taps played on a bugle, the boots/rifle/helmet/tags memorial, "Roll Call," the missing man formation, Amazing Grace, and most posthumous award citations.

Perhaps it's the dozens of military memorial/funeral ceremonies I've attended. Perhaps it's because quite a few of my friends had large portraits surrounded by wreaths at the front of those ceremonies. I don't know.

Just please don't try and act like you're more of a "man" than someone else because of it, though.
 
2010-11-17 04:23:10 PM  
Lots of dust in this thread
 
2010-11-17 04:23:14 PM  
ShereKhan: Sadly, this douchebag thinks differently

Link (new window)

Farkers unite to destroy the moron!


Wow. AFA-endorsed, even. I probably shouldn't be surprised by that.
 
2010-11-17 04:23:25 PM  
Trance354: anyone have the transcript? work filter says NO!

I think this (new window) is what you're looking for.
 
2010-11-17 04:23:48 PM  
Just wanted to stop in and be another person to thank subby for that link.

Very good. I hope that guy does alright in life because he's been through a lot.
 
2010-11-17 04:23:50 PM  
If you are in Charleston, SC and decide to tour the Yorktown there is a Medal of Honor museum there. Lists all the recipients and their citations. We were there with a youth group camping overnight on the ship, spent about 3 hours browsing the citations during the evening.

Many many acts of bravery. Got teared up reading about the 2 special forces guys in Mogadishu in 93, that is way beyond the call of duty.
 
2010-11-17 04:24:14 PM  
I am humbled having people like him defending our liberties.
 
2010-11-17 04:25:05 PM  
CAADbury: Wombatzu: I must have missed the insult to the President.

Q: So what did you feel when you heard you were winning the MoH?
Giunta: fark you.


And you took that as a personal attack on the President? The man is obviously suffering from massive survivor guilt and is angry at being singled out. You have to be a real dickhead to make this left vs. right.
 
2010-11-17 04:26:09 PM  
I should have been aborted: JohnFernelius: Do people really cry when they see this stuff? I was certainly impressed, and the man is a hero in every way.

Still, I didn't break down in tears. I'm a grown man and some of these comments are baffling. Not even Giunta is crying.

People who are controlled by emotions (women, gays) cry about stuff like this.


A troll agreeing with another troll? Whoda thunkit?
 
2010-11-17 04:26:19 PM  
I should have been aborted: FilmBELOH20: JohnFernelius: Do people really cry when they see this stuff? I was certainly impressed, and the man is a hero in every way.

Still, I didn't break down in tears. I'm a grown man and some of these comments are baffling. Not even Giunta is crying.

I did because I think of the sacrifice he and his friends made, and it makes me sad and proud and a whole host of other emotions. I also did because while it wasn't nearly as intense, it brought back memories of my times in combat, and a friend I lost (not through bullets, but a suicide after the Gulf War). So, you see, some of us have different experiences to draw from, that bring on different emotions. If you don't, so be it, but you don't need to call us out on it if we want to express ourselves. Besides - you need to be at the gym in 26 minutes, don't you?

But even the soldier is not crying about it. I am sure he was more hurt and lost more than you losing your one friend (to suicide, not even from the war).


I know it's Fark and all that, but...could you at least stop being an asshole for like....5 minutes? Please? Asshole?

Thank you SSGT Giunta.

Also, To DIAF is too good for Bryan Fischer. Asshole never even considered wearing the uniform, so he has no right to criticize.

USN '80-'84
 
2010-11-17 04:26:20 PM  
This firefight and events leading up to and after it are also covered in Sebastian Junger's book, "War" - good read.

I hope SSG Giunta can come to peace with receiving the MoH; he clearly struggles with feeling he did nothing to deserve it. I'm sure he realizes what he did saved the rest of the platoon and many parents, spouses, siblings thank him for that. He thinks he only did what the other guys would have done, but the fact is, he's the one who did it, and though he doesn't feel heroic, he probably seems so to those whom he saved.
 
2010-11-17 04:27:32 PM  
Amazing.

Thank you, subby. Thank you SSG Giunta. Thank you to all of you brave men and women that serve and/or have served.

/I might not always agree with the orders your leaders give you
//but it's stories like these that make me stand in awe of your dedication and abilities
///thank you for all that you do
 
2010-11-17 04:27:37 PM  
I should have been aborted: JohnFernelius: Do people really cry when they see this stuff? I was certainly impressed, and the man is a hero in every way.

Still, I didn't break down in tears. I'm a grown man and some of these comments are baffling. Not even Giunta is crying.

People who are controlled by emotions (women, gays) cry about stuff like this.


Something tells me you go to church in Topeka...
 
2010-11-17 04:29:18 PM  
Maybe this is a stupid comment after watching this, but why don't the helicopters or drones in Afghanistan have spotlights like the police helicopters have? The Apaches couldn't fire because they didn't know who was who in the dark but if they could have put a spotlight on the enemy, then the forces on the ground could say to the gunships that yes, that's where the enemy is so start firing.

I can't imagine being in combat. I'd be too scared and thinking way too much 'Why the fark am I here doing this' to be worth anything.
 
2010-11-17 04:30:03 PM  
Fabric_Man Quote 2010-11-17 03:39:16 PM

There's a reason they usually only award the MoH posthumously. Dead soldiers don't embarass the powers that be.

>>>

Uh no. The reason most are dead is because being rambo gets you killed 9999 times out of 1000. Acting heroic on the battlefield almost always gets you 6 feet under
 
2010-11-17 04:30:17 PM  
CAADbury: Wombatzu: I must have missed the insult to the President.

Q: So what did you feel when you heard you were winning the MoH?
Giunta: fark you.


That sounded like an average incredulous reaction to me. Was it the president who told him personally? I figure word would probably have come down the pipeline before Obama got directly involved.
 
2010-11-17 04:30:33 PM  
I should have been aborted: FilmBELOH20: JohnFernelius: Do people really cry when they see this stuff? I was certainly impressed, and the man is a hero in every way.

Still, I didn't break down in tears. I'm a grown man and some of these comments are baffling. Not even Giunta is crying.

I did because I think of the sacrifice he and his friends made, and it makes me sad and proud and a whole host of other emotions. I also did because while it wasn't nearly as intense, it brought back memories of my times in combat, and a friend I lost (not through bullets, but a suicide after the Gulf War). So, you see, some of us have different experiences to draw from, that bring on different emotions. If you don't, so be it, but you don't need to call us out on it if we want to express ourselves. Besides - you need to be at the gym in 26 minutes, don't you?

But even the soldier is not crying about it. I am sure he was more hurt and lost more than you losing your one friend (to suicide, not even from the war).


Wow. You are an amazing troll or your fark handle is amazingly apt. Either way 10/10

And STFU.
 
2010-11-17 04:30:50 PM  
How Staff Sgt Giunta spoke upon his feelings upon being told he was up for the Medal of Honor speaks volume to the character. I'd be surprised if any who have received high honors for their conduct in combat actually thought they deserved it.

I suppose in the end that is what is more impressive. What I and many others could never bring ourselves to do is what this man sees as just doing the job, just another day.

/goddamnit there's too much dust in here today
 
2010-11-17 04:31:07 PM  
fark you
 
2010-11-17 04:31:17 PM  
Chindit [TotalFark] Quote 2010-11-17 10:28:38 AM
a good listen. You don't have to be a war monger to appreciate some battlefield heroism.

>>>

The only reason you would want to learn more info about it and hear from a completely off the charts PTSD person is because you glorify war and accept it as normal.
 
2010-11-17 04:32:28 PM  
To SSG Giunta and all servicepeople sticking their necks out everyday:

img2.imageshack.us
 
2010-11-17 04:33:31 PM  
Q: So what did you feel when you heard you were winning the MoH?
Giunta: fark you.



love it!
 
2010-11-17 04:33:38 PM  
Befuddled: Maybe this is a stupid comment after watching this, but why don't the helicopters or drones in Afghanistan have spotlights like the police helicopters have? The Apaches couldn't fire because they didn't know who was who in the dark but if they could have put a spotlight on the enemy, then the forces on the ground could say to the gunships that yes, that's where the enemy is so start firing.

I can't imagine being in combat. I'd be too scared and thinking way too much 'Why the fark am I here doing this' to be worth anything.




If you listen carefully to him telling the story, when the ambush started, there were about 30 RPG's launched. RPGs are "rocket-propelled grenades" which are sometimes used to target low-flying...wait for it...helicopters.
 
2010-11-17 04:33:54 PM  
Wombatzu: CAADbury: Wombatzu: I must have missed the insult to the President.

Q: So what did you feel when you heard you were winning the MoH?
Giunta: fark you.

And you took that as a personal attack on the President? The man is obviously suffering from massive survivor guilt and is angry at being singled out. You have to be a real dickhead to make this left vs. right.


Oh for farks sake. It was meant as the fact that he could tell his story using language that he would normally use, which would be; A) censored by 60 minutes, and B) insulting to use in civil conversation with his Commander in Chief. It wasn't meant to be political in nature or about right vs. left. For one farking thread just respect what they guy did and don't turn it into a pissing match about politics.
 
2010-11-17 04:34:10 PM  
Befuddled: Maybe this is a stupid comment after watching this, but why don't the helicopters or drones in Afghanistan have spotlights like the police helicopters have? The Apaches couldn't fire because they didn't know who was who in the dark but if they could have put a spotlight on the enemy, then the forces on the ground could say to the gunships that yes, that's where the enemy is so start firing.

Think for a minute why the helicopters wouldn't want to light themselves up like the Sun in a combat situation. Shouldn't be too hard to come up with a reason fairly quickly.
 
2010-11-17 04:34:10 PM  
dammit! had to watch twice... kept getting dust in my eye.
 
2010-11-17 04:34:42 PM  
Befuddled: Maybe this is a stupid comment after watching this, but why don't the helicopters or drones in Afghanistan have spotlights like the police helicopters have? The Apaches couldn't fire because they didn't know who was who in the dark but if they could have put a spotlight on the enemy, then the forces on the ground could say to the gunships that yes, that's where the enemy is so start firing.

I'm fairly certain they do, but that would have also blinded the s*** out of the US personnel on the ground and probably put them at greater risk than they already were.

/just a guess
 
2010-11-17 04:35:18 PM  
AntiNerd: So what do all the Fark Independents (tm) here think of the new conservative position on this recognition?

Tough Talk from a TRUE American. (new window)

Personally, I just don't see how people like Bryan Fischer are tolerated in civilized society, much less elected to office. But that's the American right wing for you today.

Why yes I think that IS a troll. I didn't mean it. I think.


I can't help but notice that TPM failed to actually link to the post it was quoting. WTF TPM?

However here is the actual post: http://www.afa.net/Blogs/BlogPost.aspx?id=2147500421

His point is slightly more valid (and he's certainly not complaining about Giunta, merely the trend) if you read it in context. The money quote: "every Medal of Honor awarded during these two conflicts has been awarded for saving life. Not one has been awarded for inflicting casualties on the enemy. Not one."

He speculates that this is due to PCness infesting the MoH selection committees, so that they no longer think "killing thirty bad guys single-handed" is worthy of such public commendation the way it was in, say, WW2 or WW1.

But I think the point he's really missing here is this: killing thirty enemies single-handed is no longer hard. In every theater, we outnumber them, we seriously outgun them, we have better communications and basically every possible thing on our side. Killing bad guys is no longer difficult; the difficult part is finding bad guys, identifying bad guys, and not shooting any civilians while you're in the process.

There are no longer MoHs for single-handedly charging an enemy gun emplacement, because the enemy no longer has gun emplacements, and if they ever do then you just hide behind something call in an airstrike. But there's still plenty of call for soldiers to risk their lives to save their wounded comrades, so that's who's getting the medals nowadays.
 
2010-11-17 04:35:20 PM  
Dr. Mojo PhD: Is this really the thread to start a political pissing match in?

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