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(Some Guy)   Using a hacksaw, is it easier to cut through handcuffs or your own arm?   (amctv.com) divider line 229
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2010-11-15 04:22:09 AM
Yeah, I was wondering about that too.

Also, how did he get off the roof if the door was chained?
 
2010-11-15 05:31:28 AM
It's WAY easier to cut through handcuffs.

It's possibly quicker to cut through your own arm.
 
2010-11-15 07:47:58 AM
A hacksaw is meant to cut through metal. They actually have a hard time with soft materials. I've used a hacksaw in a pinch to cut through wood and a new hacksaw blade will but through metal easier than it will cut through wood. I'd have to imagine while it would cut through the flesh pretty easy once it got to the bone things would get a bit tricky and it might be like trying to cut wood.
 
2010-11-15 07:57:21 AM
I immediately thought of this: Max: "The chain in those handcuffs is high-tensile steel. It'd take you ten minutes to hack through it with this. Now, if you're lucky, you could hack through your ankle in five minutes. Go."

He could have gone down a fire escape or jumped to another roof, etc.
 
2010-11-15 09:04:45 AM
doglover: It's WAY easier to cut through handcuffs.

It's possibly quicker to cut through your own arm.


Well put.
 
2010-11-15 09:22:45 AM
I like that they're sticking to the source material but realistically it's incredibly easy to hack through a hand cuff chain. This is assuming through that the blade is fresh.

doglover: It's WAY easier to cut through handcuffs.

It's possibly quicker to cut through your own arm.


This is an excellent way of putting it.
 
2010-11-15 10:05:57 AM
yes, define easy
 
2010-11-15 10:07:35 AM
Joelogon: I immediately thought of this: Max: "The chain in those handcuffs is high-tensile steel. It'd take you ten minutes to hack through it with this. Now, if you're lucky, you could hack through your ankle in five minutes. Go."

He could have gone down a fire escape or jumped to another roof, etc.


Mad Max is the correct answer
 
2010-11-15 10:20:50 AM
For most mortals, the arms, but in my case? Well, given that "The Destroyer" (left gun) and "Lights Out" (right arm A.K.A. lethal weapon) are ripped solid heavily muscled weapons of mass destruction? For one thing the whole premise is absurd because one flex and I'd pop those cuffs pop like paper.

*hits crab flex pose*
 
2010-11-15 10:50:11 AM
"Cold roast beef,... cold roast beef..."

/Richard Pine
 
2010-11-15 10:56:04 AM
Con_Authority: Yeah, I was wondering about that too.

Also, how did he get off the roof if the door was chained?


Same roof they climbed up to on that ladder up the side of the building maybe.
 
2010-11-15 10:58:02 AM
It's a trick question. It would have been easiest to cut through the rusty mild-steel all-thread rod he was cuffed to.
 
2010-11-15 10:58:51 AM
That was just stupid. I don't know why that moron just didn't saw through the goddamned screw he was handcuffed too, perfectly easy to get through with a hacksaw.
 
2010-11-15 10:58:53 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Approves?
 
2010-11-15 11:01:49 AM
Not the arm- never mind the permanent disadvantage in a zombie apocalypse, there's also the whole massive shock/blood loss issue to deal with while you're leaping from rooftops like Spider-man in your immediate escape. You're odds of survival are still crap and none.

Never mind the cuffs, cut through the rusty old pig-iron pipe or the low grade steel bracket you're cuffed to. Keep the bling.
 
2010-11-15 11:06:11 AM
Handcuffs.

Yes, flesh cuts quicker, but a hacksaw isn't really optimal: it gunks up, hangs, and doesn't work worth a damn.

I know.

This may sound morbid, but we tried this after watching the first godawful Saw movie (college, drinks, bored). We got a pig leg from a local pork products place, and tried to cut through it with a hacksaw. It took something like 30 minutes. And we had so many hangups, stuck on bone, etc. that I just don't see any way someone could stay conscious while doing that to themselves. The only way to get it to work was fast light even strokes exactly in the cut. NOT something you're going to do while cutting your hand off.

Also...most metal cuts pretty quickly with a hacksaw, and the links on handcuffs aren't THAT hardened. You could get through that in a minute or two, easy.
 
2010-11-15 11:07:13 AM
Handcuffs are hardened steel. You're not cutting through them with a hacksaw unless you have a few hours and about 20 blades.
 
2010-11-15 11:08:11 AM
Efferus X: Approves?

No, this concept is originally from Mad Max circa 1979. The Saw series is such derivative crap.
 
2010-11-15 11:09:15 AM
That final scene was not only very predictable, but pretty stupid as well. Had he had some utility knife it might have been plausible, but a hacksaw?

Last night's episode was pretty underwhelming.
 
2010-11-15 11:09:18 AM
Maybe the only serious flaw in a very worthwhile series so far.
 
2010-11-15 11:10:04 AM
I think I would rather be eaten by zombies than try to cut through my own arm with a hacksaw. But I would like to think I would have been smart enough to cut through the rusty iron pipe instead.
 
2010-11-15 11:10:15 AM
Gah! I didn't watch last night's episode yet. I can't win with this show. I didn't even think I was clicking into a thread about the show.
 
2010-11-15 11:10:22 AM
CUT OFF YOUR farkING PINKY BEFORE YOU CUT OFF YOUR HAND...

And the guy in Saw should have cut the front of his foot off if he was going to cut anything off.
 
2010-11-15 11:11:50 AM
Wombatzu: Maybe the only serious flaw in a very worthwhile series so far.

On the other hand, I'd like to think that he'll show up in the next episode with some bad-ass tool strapped onto the stump. Something like a hedge trimmer or a small-block diesel engine.
 
2010-11-15 11:12:14 AM
Also, does anyone else think this is turning into Lost becepts with zombies instead of smoke and polar bears and such?
 
2010-11-15 11:12:14 AM
Cutting off your hand is a great theatrical device but the reality is that you'd die pretty fast, especially if you were there on the roof a couple days dehydrating which is implied from the man's voice. I also suspect that if you were indeed sawing your hand off you'd pass out from the sheer pain and bleed to death.
 
2010-11-15 11:13:58 AM
yeah OUCH.
Glad it is getting a 2nd Season.
 
2010-11-15 11:14:16 AM
On the subject, last nights episode was kind of lame. Still worth watching but the least entertaining of the 3 episodes so far.
 
2010-11-15 11:17:12 AM
tzzhc4: No, this concept is originally from Mad Max circa 1979. The Saw series is such derivative crap.

I'll admit I enjoyed the first one, and then it all went downhill from there...
 
2010-11-15 11:18:59 AM
Note to anyone joining my team when the zombie insurrection comes: If you are a disagreeable farker, I'm putting two rounds in you myself.
 
2010-11-15 11:19:20 AM
That's the first thing I thought of, too.

Where did he go? If he used the fire escape or something else, why did Rick's party go through the building and up the stairwell that they knew would be infested with zombies?
 
2010-11-15 11:19:47 AM
It was the premise of the first Saw movie.

But, if you looked at the piece of metal the handcuffs were attached to then you will se it would have been easiest to cut through that. Also, looking at it it did not seem to be connected at the top so if he had seen that he could have just pushed the cuffs over the top and been freed. I can accept from his position he was unable to see that but it was an odd thing to notice.
 
2010-11-15 11:20:36 AM
I don't know which is "easier" but I know I'd be working the handcuffs and not my damn arm.

What I'm wondering is how long did he sit there babbling before he started trying to reach the hack saw. Pretty sure I'd have started on that right away.
 
2010-11-15 11:21:05 AM
Yeah we all saw it coming, but think about how much more pissed off this dude is going to be since he cut his paw off....
 
2010-11-15 11:22:33 AM
js34603: I don't know which is "easier" but I know I'd be working the handcuffs and not my damn arm.

What I'm wondering is how long did he sit there babbling before he started trying to reach the hack saw. Pretty sure I'd have started on that right away.


Well he's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

/What I did there, do you see it?
 
2010-11-15 11:24:35 AM
Anywhere to watch online? Missed last night's episode. Was thinking AMC might make it available, but alas.
 
2010-11-15 11:26:05 AM
whistleridge: And we had so many hangups, stuck on bone, etc. that I just don't see any way someone could stay conscious while doing that to themselves.

This guy cut his own arm off with a cheap (and dull) Leatherman knock-off:

upload.wikimedia.org

Apparently the trick is to either go through the joint instead of the bone, or to break the bone and cut it off at the break.
 
2010-11-15 11:30:52 AM
The easiest would have been to saw the pipe he was handcuffed to. Overall the show is pretty good, but some of the things they do are unrealistically stupid.
 
2010-11-15 11:31:44 AM
OK
I have a question about the whole thing. Why are their so many zombies? When a zombie gets to a living person, they try to eat them, not wound or otherwise infect them. Also, in last night's episode they spoke about the zombies wandering farther from Atlanta because the food is running out. Why are they so hungry? They can't die? What happens if they don't find food?

/guess I take the whole thing too literally.
 
2010-11-15 11:32:20 AM
Publisher: Yeah we all saw it coming, but think about how much more pissed off this dude is going to be since he cut his paw off....

Yeah. I'm sure they aren't going to be having any civil discussions with this dude anytime soon.
/especially when he starts waving that stump around.
 
2010-11-15 11:32:27 AM
Only 6 episodes a "season?" Sheesh! Given the slow pacing and the mild adherence to the comic books, I wonder if the sixth episode will end with _________ ______ing ___________.

SPOILERS SAVED
 
2010-11-15 11:32:49 AM
happydude45: The easiest would have been to saw the pipe he was handcuffed to.

Wait, was it even a pipe? Wasn't it a piece of threaded rod holding a bracket that supported the pipe? He could have cut through that in a few minutes.
 
2010-11-15 11:32:51 AM
www.itsonlyamovie.co.uk
Didn't see a problem with that scene.

All hotlinked n' stuff.
 
2010-11-15 11:33:24 AM
Cauchy_Riemann_equations: Note to anyone joining my team when the zombie insurrection comes: If you are a disagreeable farker, I'm putting two rounds in you myself.

Seriously... the whole "compare and contrast" human behavior themes in this show are tired already. They should have thrown his dumb ass off the roof to save the bullets. Same deal for his idiot brother.
 
2010-11-15 11:34:51 AM
I'm really annoyed with the countdown clock going all day on AMC so you don't forget to watch The Walking Dead. 7 hours to go! Good grief.
 
2010-11-15 11:40:42 AM
And now that they know he's lost his trigger hand, and is probably more pissed of then ever, they're better off hightailing it out of there and not bringing him back into the group. At this point, I wouldn't trust the guy to be in the same camp as me when I slept.
 
2010-11-15 11:42:20 AM
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2010-11-15 11:47:36 AM
Wombatzu: Maybe the only serious flaw in a very worthwhile series so far.

Aside from the zombies that are puzzled by ladders and yet sprint to and vault over an 8 foot high chain link fence, right?
 
2010-11-15 11:48:46 AM
OneFretAway: I think I would rather be eaten by zombies than try to cut through my own arm with a hacksaw. But I would like to think I would have been smart enough to cut through the rusty iron pipe instead.

Perhaps when Jessica Alba becoems a zombie, I'll let her eat me. Short of that, I cut off what ever is necessary.

images.starpulse.com
 
2010-11-15 11:51:24 AM
howdyyall9999: It's a trick question. It would have been easiest to cut through the rusty mild-steel all-thread rod he was cuffed to.

THIS!!! Of course the guy is a racist red-neck....so it probably never occurred to him.
 
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