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2010-11-12 11:47:16 AM
Billy has a tendency to break my heart..
 
2010-11-12 11:48:33 AM
If he's reporting all of his R&D to the group that agreed to the public financing, then I fail to see the problem here.
 
2010-11-12 11:49:03 AM
sulco: Billy has a tendency to break my heart..

Which heart?
 
2010-11-12 11:50:31 AM
but can it fly??

/vote
 
2010-11-12 11:51:57 AM
farfigneugan: If he's reporting all of his R&D to the group that agreed to the public financing, then I fail to see the problem here.

There is no problem here. But the appearance of inequity is a useful tool for shaping baseless public opinion. The guys line about "Whether or not people agree that public money should be spent developing these sorts of green technologies, it's clear this man is deriving some personal benefit from this." basically sums it up in a nutshell. To these people, it doesn't matter if a greater good is being done. As long as one of the 'haves' gets any sort of benefit, the project is evil. Even if the net benefit to the general public is very favorable. Heck, just look at all the hate that big pharma gets.
 
2010-11-12 11:52:40 AM
I'd say anything that furthers the cause of electric vehicle development is taxpayer money well spent.

Besides, 400,000 pounds divided by number of taxpayers = pennies. Or haypennies or whatever they have over there in Britland.
 
2010-11-12 11:54:22 AM
MycroftHolmes: Heck, just look at all the hate that big pharma gets.

lol
but part of the example is showing how far UNDER budget they pulled this off. Big Pharma's markup for sales vs what is spent in R&D/Materials is insane. Not really comparable, imo.
 
2010-11-12 11:54:23 AM
I'm glad I live in the US, where we'd never waste taxpayers' money on frivolous crap.
 
2010-11-12 11:55:02 AM
That's not a "UK built supercar". It's a retrofitted Lotus. Nice try, but come up with your own chasis, and THEN you can call it a UK built supercar.

Voting? Why not?
 
2010-11-12 11:55:03 AM
So. Go take the car you paid for.
 
2010-11-12 11:55:17 AM
MycroftHolmes: sulco: Billy has a tendency to break my heart..

Which heart?


the achy breaky one
 
2010-11-12 11:57:02 AM
catfish696: MycroftHolmes: sulco: Billy has a tendency to break my heart..

Which heart?

the achy breaky one


Uhh... I just don't think I understand...
 
2010-11-12 12:00:33 PM
He probably paid a team of the worlds top fashion designers to rip his jeans for him.
 
2010-11-12 12:01:27 PM
FTFA: "Dale Vince OBE has spent nearly £1million building the 'Nemesis' - an electricity-powered supercar which can accelerate from 0-100mph in a breathtaking 8.5 seconds."

8.5 seconds for £1 million? FAIL.

Tesla Roadster = USD $100,000 with 3.7 second 0-60.
 
2010-11-12 12:06:03 PM
XMark: I'd say anything that furthers the cause of electric vehicle development is taxpayer money well spent.

Besides, 400,000 pounds divided by number of taxpayers = pennies. Or haypennies or whatever they have over there in Britland.


I agree. I would be happy to help industries develop better products with tax money, as long as there are rules about not exporting the jobs to other countries.
 
2010-11-12 12:06:08 PM
ScaliaDissenting: FTFA: "Dale Vince OBE has spent nearly £1million building the 'Nemesis' - an electricity-powered supercar which can accelerate from 0-100mph in a breathtaking 8.5 seconds."

8.5 seconds for £1 million? FAIL.

Tesla Roadster = USD $100,000 with 3.7 second 0-60.


Reading comprehension fail!
 
2010-11-12 12:06:51 PM
ScaliaDissenting: FTFA: "Dale Vince OBE has spent nearly £1million building the 'Nemesis' - an electricity-powered supercar which can accelerate from 0-100mph in a breathtaking 8.5 seconds."

8.5 seconds for £1 million? FAIL.

Tesla Roadster = USD $100,000 with 3.7 second 0-60.


English miles and American miles are the same...
 
2010-11-12 12:07:00 PM
another "toy" for the rich by the rich that won't help the masses. Waste of money.
 
2010-11-12 12:10:19 PM
Now now.
 
2010-11-12 12:11:25 PM
wippit: catfish696: MycroftHolmes: sulco: Billy has a tendency to break my heart..

Which heart?

the achy breaky one

Uhh... I just don't think I understand...


then don't tell his heart
 
2010-11-12 12:12:25 PM
Wow thats about 10% more horsepower than this Nissan family sedan:
image.dieselpowermag.com
 
2010-11-12 12:13:13 PM
Im confused. My Charger R/T RandT does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds-and the Tesla does it in around 4 seconds....what am I missing? This honestly doesnt seem too impressive as a super car- I mean im sure enviromentally speaking it has a smaller footprint but for 1 million pounds?
 
2010-11-12 12:14:00 PM
That's some fine hope and change for ya.
 
2010-11-12 12:17:23 PM
buttcat: wippit: catfish696: MycroftHolmes: sulco: Billy has a tendency to break my heart..

Which heart?

the achy breaky one

Uhh... I just don't think I understand...

then don't tell his heart


I hate you all so much.
 
2010-11-12 12:17:54 PM
Electric cars are stupid.
 
2010-11-12 12:20:22 PM
CrunchyCheetoFingers: another "toy" for the rich by the rich that won't help the masses. Waste of money.

This. FTA:
"What Mr Vince has done is create a car which proves a point, that electric cars work, that they can be a viable, sustainable alternative to the heavily subsidised, incredibly influential, constantly lobbying multi nationally powerful grouping we know and love as the oil industry."
Yeah, and only costs 20x as much.
 
2010-11-12 12:21:12 PM
ACryer: Im confused. My Charger R/T RandT does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds-and the Tesla does it in around 4 seconds....what am I missing? This honestly doesnt seem too impressive as a super car- I mean im sure enviromentally speaking it has a smaller footprint but for 1 million pounds?

Did you get the part where they're going 0-100, and not 0-60?

/just askin.
 
2010-11-12 12:22:46 PM
MycroftHolmes: Heck, just look at all the hate that big pharma gets.

The hate that Big Pharma gets is well deserved. They routinely send out research groups to find folk remedies, research them for efficacy, then isolate the components of the remedy if it appears effective, then patent it and bar anyone from using it unless it's produced by them.

They are taking knowledge that should be in the public domain, fold cures found after hundreds or thousands of years of people experimenting and then slapping their label on it and demanding people pay them for it. Oh yes, and giving nothing back to the people who they stole the basis of these new "drugs" or cures from.

Hell, for a glaring example of this sort of antics look at Monsanto and their bullshiat with rice and wheat.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2004/jan/31/gm.food
To sum it up, Monsanto patented the genome pattern for Nap Hal wheat. A rice that has been used for generations by Indians, a varietal that was produced after decades and decades of crossbreeding. Monsanto slaps a "patent" on it stealing the rights to it and claiming they "invented" it when in reality they simply "found" the wheat that had been used by people for generations.

What big pharma does is no different, and thus they earn the hate they get.
 
2010-11-12 12:22:56 PM
Maybe if people were angry at the politicians who gave him that money we'd be getting somewhere.

Same as AIG giving out bonuses with taxpayer money. There's a very simple way to make that not happen.
 
2010-11-12 12:27:09 PM
Vodka Zombie: buttcat: wippit: catfish696: MycroftHolmes: sulco: Billy has a tendency to break my heart..

Which heart?

the achy breaky one

Uhh... I just don't think I understand...

then don't tell his heart

I hate you all so much.


I've heard the way to get a song out of your head is to sing it outloud. Let me help you out. What the doc ordered
 
2010-11-12 12:31:48 PM
Bell-fan: MycroftHolmes: Heck, just look at all the hate that big pharma gets.

The hate that Big Pharma gets is well deserved. They routinely send out research groups to find folk remedies, research them for efficacy, then isolate the components of the remedy if it appears effective, then patent it and bar anyone from using it unless it's produced by them.

They are taking knowledge that should be in the public domain, fold cures found after hundreds or thousands of years of people experimenting and then slapping their label on it and demanding people pay them for it. Oh yes, and giving nothing back to the people who they stole the basis of these new "drugs" or cures from.

Hell, for a glaring example of this sort of antics look at Monsanto and their bullshiat with rice and wheat.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2004/jan/31/gm.food
To sum it up, Monsanto patented the genome pattern for Nap Hal wheat. A rice that has been used for generations by Indians, a varietal that was produced after decades and decades of crossbreeding. Monsanto slaps a "patent" on it stealing the rights to it and claiming they "invented" it when in reality they simply "found" the wheat that had been used by people for generations.

What big pharma does is no different, and thus they earn the hate they get.


So, your statement is that big pharma only develops drugs through isolation of active chemicals from folk remedies. I also assume, then, that you feel we would have the same quality and quantity of available treatment options if big pharma did not exist, correct?
 
2010-11-12 12:32:35 PM
www.buamai.com
Who did you think?
 
2010-11-12 12:32:37 PM
Jorge Sum: ScaliaDissenting: FTFA: "Dale Vince OBE has spent nearly £1million building the 'Nemesis' - an electricity-powered supercar which can accelerate from 0-100mph in a breathtaking 8.5 seconds."

8.5 seconds for £1 million? FAIL.

Tesla Roadster = USD $100,000 with 3.7 second 0-60.

Reading comprehension fail!



Ooops! You're correct. I read that as 0-100km/h.
 
2010-11-12 12:33:17 PM
ACryer: what am I missing? This honestly doesnt seem too impressive as a super car- I mean im sure enviromentally speaking it has a smaller footprint but for 1 million pounds?

What you (and several others) are missing is that it's the prototype. I'm not really sure why anyone would think £1m is a large budget to get to that stage.
 
2010-11-12 12:35:00 PM
I got nothin'

www.joey-kramer.com
 
2010-11-12 12:39:14 PM
For comparison here are some other cars around 8.5s to 100 mph

Porsche 959 8.3s
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera 8.4s
Ferrari 288GTO 8.5s
Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder 8.5s
Porsche 911 GT2 996 8.5s
Nissan R35 GTR 8.5s
TVR Sagaris 8.5s
Lamborghini Diablo 6.0 8.5s
Dodge Viper GTS 8.6s
 
2010-11-12 12:41:46 PM
ACryer: Im confused. My Charger R/T RandT does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds-and the Tesla does it in around 4 seconds....what am I missing? This honestly doesnt seem too impressive as a super car- I mean im sure enviromentally speaking it has a smaller footprint but for 1 million pounds?

What you are missing is this...

Your 5.6 seconds 0-60 are about 4 seconds longer than anyone should be forced to spend in a Dodge Charger R/TnA.

/Sorry Man. Had to be done.
 
2010-11-12 12:45:10 PM
Also, why is this news? Tesla Motors already made an electric lotus, did they not?

Tesla Roadster Wikipedia Page (new window)
 
2010-11-12 12:45:49 PM
Sin_City_Superhero: That's not a "UK built supercar". It's a retrofitted Lotus. Nice try, but come up with your own chasis, and THEN you can call it a UK built supercar.

Voting? Why not?


Not that I care either way, but are you saying a car originally built in the UK, by citizens of the UK, for a company founded in the UK, modified by a man from the UK, using UK taxpayer money, with the main body of work probably done by hiring Polish workers, is not UK built? Can't get more British than hiring Polish workers.

Or are you questioning the "supercar" aspect of it?
 
2010-11-12 12:46:37 PM
ACryer: Im confused. My Charger R/T RandT does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds-and the Tesla does it in around 4 seconds....what am I missing? This honestly doesnt seem too impressive as a super car- I mean im sure enviromentally speaking it has a smaller footprint but for 1 million pounds?

that 1 mill is r and d costs, not production costs for a single unit.
 
2010-11-12 12:53:07 PM
Alpha_Flier: For comparison here are some other cars around 8.5s to 100 mph

Porsche 959 8.3s
Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera 8.4s
Ferrari 288GTO 8.5s
Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder 8.5s
Porsche 911 GT2 996 8.5s
Nissan R35 GTR 8.5s
TVR Sagaris 8.5s
Lamborghini Diablo 6.0 8.5s
Dodge Viper GTS 8.6s


Pffft.

Honda CBR1000RR 5.5s
 
2010-11-12 12:56:00 PM
ACryer: Im confused. My Charger R/T RandT does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds-and the Tesla does it in around 4 seconds....what am I missing? This honestly doesnt seem too impressive as a super car- I mean im sure enviromentally speaking it has a smaller footprint but for 1 million pounds?

Your Charger is also made from twine and cement, and has a 50 year old engine design.

(I see everyone else has already set you straight, I'm just having now)
 
2010-11-12 12:57:43 PM
XMark: I'd say anything that furthers the cause of electric vehicle development is taxpayer money well spent.


mtpundit.com
 
2010-11-12 12:57:58 PM
Slaxl: Can't get more British than hiring Polish workers.

Do we still do that? I thought they were better off in Poland these days :-\
 
2010-11-12 01:08:25 PM
ACryer: Im confused. My Charger R/T RandT does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds-and the Tesla does it in around 4 seconds....what am I missing? This honestly doesnt seem too impressive as a super car- I mean im sure enviromentally speaking it has a smaller footprint but for 1 million pounds?

The Tesla does 0-100 in about TWELVE seconds. This guy's car does it in 8.5. That's the part that you're missing.
 
2010-11-12 01:09:53 PM
Bell-fan: MycroftHolmes: Heck, just look at all the hate that big pharma gets.

The hate that Big Pharma gets is well deserved. They routinely send out research groups to find folk remedies, research them for efficacy, then isolate the components of the remedy if it appears effective, then patent it and bar anyone from using it unless it's produced by them.

They are taking knowledge that should be in the public domain, fold cures found after hundreds or thousands of years of people experimenting and then slapping their label on it and demanding people pay them for it. Oh yes, and giving nothing back to the people who they stole the basis of these new "drugs" or cures from.

Hell, for a glaring example of this sort of antics look at Monsanto and their bullshiat with rice and wheat.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2004/jan/31/gm.food
To sum it up, Monsanto patented the genome pattern for Nap Hal wheat. A rice that has been used for generations by Indians, a varietal that was produced after decades and decades of crossbreeding. Monsanto slaps a "patent" on it stealing the rights to it and claiming they "invented" it when in reality they simply "found" the wheat that had been used by people for generations.

What big pharma does is no different, and thus they earn the hate they get.


Well put.
 
2010-11-12 01:09:56 PM
Someone else who drives around in a taxpayer funded car and wastes tax money.

i230.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-12 01:10:43 PM
And aren't European Tesla Roadsters built in the UK?
 
2010-11-12 01:50:23 PM
Wait a minute, Doc. Are you telling me that you built an electric car . . . out of a Lotus Exige?



FTA: "Fiona McEvoy, campaign manager for The TaxPayers' Alliance, said: "Whether or not people agree that public money should be spent developing these sorts of green technologies, it's clear this man is deriving some personal benefit from this."

So it's not how much it cost, or who paid for it, or cost/benefit. It's that the man who built it is driving it. I'd be disappointed if he wasn't deriving some personal benefit from his hard work.


FTA: "It has so far reached a top speed of 135mph but Ecotricity says it should be capable of 170mph. The company will attempt to break the 139mph record for an electric British car currently held by Don Wales in the Bluebird Electric at a later date."


Out of "first", "electric", and "supercar", I don't have a problem with only the "electric" part.
 
2010-11-12 02:34:14 PM
You know what I love about Farkers?

They can't tell the difference between the price of a PROTOTYPE and a production model.

The price of the car in TFA is what it cost to design and build the PROTOTYPE. But, hey, what do I know? I only RTFA.

I guarantee the prototype for the Tesla cost a LOT more to build than the $100k retail price.
 
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