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(Washington Post)   That mysterious missile that everybody saw off California wasn't a missile. It was an airplane that, like, shot up straight in the sky. Like a missile, sort of, but an airplane. Anyway, stop asking about it   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 172
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2010-11-10 09:48:00 AM  
It's a streetlight.
 
2010-11-10 10:28:17 AM  
*Cough* Coverup *Cough*
 
wee
2010-11-10 10:29:31 AM  
Someone thinks we're idiots.
 
2010-11-10 10:33:33 AM  
wee: Someone thinks we're idiots.

If you think it's a missile, then I think you're an idiot.
 
2010-11-10 10:46:35 AM  
At first I thought it was a missile because it seemed the trajectory was away or tangential to the camera. Based solely on that theory, no aircraft has the kind of performance to match the visual envelope we saw and I thought it was a missile.

Initially, there was no evidence to counter that - nothing from the cameraman or helicopter pilot saying it was going eastbound, and certainly not enough video to show it calmly approaching LA.

Then another video showed up with a wide shot that definitely showed it on a trajectory toward the camera. No way it was a missile. That was simply a spectacular contrail.

The first video sucked.
 
wee
2010-11-10 10:50:38 AM  
Old_Chief_Scott: If you think it's a missile, then I think you're an idiot.

I pretty much don't care for people that feel the need to resort to name-calling in a thread. I mean, c'mon, once you can't keep a discussion civil it ceases to be a discussion now doesn't it? Of course, there are a couple of real jerk-offs that show up from time to time, which brings me to the next thing you should know about me: Manual Ignore.
 
2010-11-10 11:01:17 AM  
wee: Old_Chief_Scott: If you think it's a missile, then I think you're an idiot.

I pretty much don't care for people that feel the need to resort to name-calling in a thread. I mean, c'mon, once you can't keep a discussion civil it ceases to be a discussion now doesn't it? Of course, there are a couple of real jerk-offs that show up from time to time, which brings me to the next thing you should know about me: Manual Ignore.


So you're saying you think it's a missile? Because the perjorative only applies to those people that still think this is a missile.
 
2010-11-10 11:53:58 AM  
Old_Chief_Scott: wee: Old_Chief_Scott: If you think it's a missile, then I think you're an idiot.

I pretty much don't care for people that feel the need to resort to name-calling in a thread. I mean, c'mon, once you can't keep a discussion civil it ceases to be a discussion now doesn't it? Of course, there are a couple of real jerk-offs that show up from time to time, which brings me to the next thing you should know about me: Manual Ignore.

So you're saying you think it's a missile? Because the perjorative only applies to those people that still think this is a missile.


What do you believe it was? A BD-5?
 
2010-11-10 11:55:18 AM  
Old_Chief_Scott: wee: Old_Chief_Scott: If you think it's a missile, then I think you're an idiot.

I pretty much don't care for people that feel the need to resort to name-calling in a thread. I mean, c'mon, once you can't keep a discussion civil it ceases to be a discussion now doesn't it? Of course, there are a couple of real jerk-offs that show up from time to time, which brings me to the next thing you should know about me: Manual Ignore.

So you're saying you think it's a missile? Because the perjorative only applies to those people that still think this is a missile.


Yeah, you could go the ITG asshole route I suppose. Or you could post something useful that contributes to the discussion instead.

Something useful that contributes to the discussion.^
 
2010-11-10 12:01:27 PM  
i.bnet.com
 
2010-11-10 12:09:47 PM  
FTFA: Adm. Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, told reporters and editors at The Washington Post that it "wasn't a Navy missile." He declined to go into more detail. He did, however, appear to be smiling when he said it.

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNN!!!
 
2010-11-10 12:11:03 PM  
It was a Pontiac G6, didn't you know they could fly?
 
2010-11-10 12:11:58 PM  
What do you believe it was? A BD-5?

BD-5, BD-6, whatever it takes.
 
2010-11-10 12:14:13 PM  
It looks like somebody's....

www.rocketreviews.com



JOHNSON!
 
2010-11-10 12:16:17 PM  
xanadian: FTFA: Adm. Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, told reporters and editors at The Washington Post that it "wasn't a Navy missile." He declined to go into more detail. He did, however, appear to be smiling when he said it.

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNN!!!


I'd be smiling too, if I thought that the people who were asking me these questions were retarded.
 
2010-11-10 12:17:08 PM  
You folks realize there are several planes in the US arsenal that can go vertical and accelerate immediately after takeoff up to their maximum altitude? IT's not that much of a trick.
 
2010-11-10 12:17:25 PM  
xanadian: FTFA: Adm. Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, told reporters and editors at The Washington Post that it "wasn't a Navy missile." He declined to go into more detail. He did, however, appear to be smiling when he said it.

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNN!!!


He was forcing himself to smile before saying anything more, such as "ARE YOU ALL farkING RETARDED?!?!"
 
2010-11-10 12:18:58 PM  
api.ning.com

/hot like a missile's exhaust
 
2010-11-10 12:19:19 PM  
Leopold Stotch: You folks realize there are several planes in the US arsenal that can go vertical and accelerate immediately after takeoff up to their maximum altitude? IT's not that much of a trick.

Yep, it's called a Viking

F15 can do it. As long as the power to weight ratio is insane, any plan can do that...
 
2010-11-10 12:19:20 PM  
You folks realize there are several planes in the US arsenal that can go vertical and accelerate immediately after takeoff up to their maximum altitude? IT's not that much of a trick.

From the secret airstrip 30 miles off the coast of Catalina right? Are we the only ones that get this?
 
2010-11-10 12:19:35 PM  
Something something TWA Flight 800 something...
 
2010-11-10 12:20:55 PM  
The whole "vertical" thing has been beaten to death. If it's high enough, with the sun behind it, it looks like it's going straight up because of the curvature of the earth. It's like assuming the sun is going "up" because you see it "rising" out of the ocean.
 
2010-11-10 12:21:13 PM  
Iron Man?
 
2010-11-10 12:21:57 PM  
There are still plenty of lulz at ATS about this. 90% of them refuse to believe it's a contrail and are bashing anyone who says it's a contrail and calling them sheep of the mass media! All the experts are pulling out their their top conspiracy theories about this.
 
2010-11-10 12:22:09 PM  
It was the weather balloon SS Roswell..
 
2010-11-10 12:23:57 PM  
The Decider: You folks realize there are several planes in the US arsenal that can go vertical and accelerate immediately after takeoff up to their maximum altitude? IT's not that much of a trick.

From the secret airstrip 30 miles off the coast of Catalina right? Are we the only ones that get this?


A.) As has been said before, it's an optical illusion.

B.) Just because a plane can go vertical from takeoff doesn't mean it has to do it from takeoff. It could do it, yknow, not from takeoff, I don't know, maybe after flying 35 miles out of LA Airspace.
 
2010-11-10 12:23:57 PM  
wee: Old_Chief_Scott: If you think it's a missile, then I think you're an idiot.

I pretty much don't care for people that feel the need to resort to name-calling in a thread. I mean, c'mon, once you can't keep a discussion civil it ceases to be a discussion now doesn't it? Of course, there are a couple of real jerk-offs that show up from time to time, which brings me to the next thing you should know about me: Manual Ignore.


idiot!!!
 
2010-11-10 12:24:11 PM  
Satanicpuppy: The whole "vertical" thing has been beaten to death. If it's high enough, with the sun behind it, it looks like it's going straight up because of the curvature of the earth. It's like assuming the sun is going "up" because you see it "rising" out of the ocean.

Apparently nobody has ever seen a plane flying over the horizon that looked like it was going straight up.

I've seen planes look like they were going straight down as they flew away from me over the horizon.
 
2010-11-10 12:24:13 PM  
i105.photobucket.com

Even the former leader of your United States of America, James Earl Carter Jr., thought he saw a UFO once.

But it's been proven he only saw the planet Venus.

Venus was at its peak brilliance last night. You probably thought you saw something up in the sky other than Venus, but I assure you, it was Venus.
 
2010-11-10 12:24:24 PM  
Swamp Gas.
 
2010-11-10 12:25:25 PM  
Thirty miles off of Catalina Island and our defense and air traffic control systems can't (or won't) identify it? Sleep well tonight citizens.
 
2010-11-10 12:28:54 PM  
FloydA: Even the former leader of your United States of America, James Earl Carter Jr., thought he saw a UFO once.

But it's been proven he only saw the planet Venus.

Venus was at its peak brilliance last night. You probably thought you saw something up in the sky other than Venus, but I assure you, it was Venus.


Classic episode.
 
2010-11-10 12:28:56 PM  
There IS a high concentration of taco trucks in that area. Just sayin'.
 
2010-11-10 12:29:53 PM  
my first thought when i heard about this was, "huh, i wonder what the Doctor was doing?"
/nerd, i know
 
2010-11-10 12:31:36 PM  
The thing is, if this is really just a contrail, than why have we not seen this before.
I grew up in L.A. and was there for 25 years and was in the aviation industry, I don't remember ever seeing this before.
 
2010-11-10 12:31:56 PM  
BigTuna: Yeah, you could go the ITG asshole route I suppose. Or you could post something useful that contributes to the discussion instead

Well, if someone has failed to read the linked article, which rather clearly debunked the whole missile theory, then what possible good would my experience be in convincing them otherwise?

I suppose I could go into how I was stationed at the Pacific Missile Test Center for four years and perhaps relate as to how the exhaust trail of a missile fired in a ballistic trajectory would behave in a manner quite different from that shown in the video due to the winds aloft, but I just figured that anyone that believes it was a missile, and then thinks that other people are trying to create some sort of coverup to convince him otherwise isn't going to listen to me.
 
2010-11-10 12:31:57 PM  
If it's an airplane shouldn't it have a flight plan? If it's a military plane then one of the branches should just say it was one of their planes.
 
2010-11-10 12:32:22 PM  
Charlie Freak: At first I thought it was a missile because it seemed the trajectory was away or tangential to the camera. Based solely on that theory, no aircraft has the kind of performance to match the visual envelope we saw and I thought it was a missile.

Initially, there was no evidence to counter that - nothing from the cameraman or helicopter pilot saying it was going eastbound, and certainly not enough video to show it calmly approaching LA.

Then another video showed up with a wide shot that definitely showed it on a trajectory toward the camera. No way it was a missile. That was simply a spectacular contrail.

The first video sucked.


I came for exactly this.
 
2010-11-10 12:32:39 PM  
In related news, nobody in the mainstream media or blogosphere knows the difference between a "missile" and a "rocket".
 
2010-11-10 12:33:10 PM  
Or ... not.
youtube clip of the Rachel Maddow (pops)

/quack
img831.imageshack.us
 
2010-11-10 12:34:21 PM  
Flght number?
Tail numbers?
Flight path?

/Thought so.
//Not looking at that pen light you got there, buddy,
 
2010-11-10 12:34:40 PM  
Satanicpuppy: The whole "vertical" thing has been beaten to death. If it's high enough, with the sun behind it, it looks like it's going straight up because of the curvature of the earth. It's like assuming the sun is going "up" because you see it "rising" out of the ocean.

Absolutely correct! After all, every modern man knows that the sun actually goes around, not up!

/Wheeee!!
 
2010-11-10 12:34:46 PM  
To all the people saying it was a contrail, the FAA said according to the radar tapes there was no traffic in the area at the time.

Now what?
 
2010-11-10 12:35:11 PM  
wee: Someone thinks we're idiots.

Do any of you people ever look up when you're outside? This is what airplanes flying toward you from the horizon look like if there's a little wind to fudge the contrail.
 
2010-11-10 12:35:42 PM  
It's ghouls! Ghouls I tell ya! Religious ghouls with rockets looking for a land to call their own. Don't you laugh at me. I'll cast a spell on you that'll make you show your true form. Cave rat taught it to me.
 
2010-11-10 12:36:02 PM  
Hard Harry: The thing is, if this is really just a contrail, than why have we not seen this before.
I grew up in L.A. and was there for 25 years and was in the aviation industry, I don't remember ever seeing this before.


You see it all the time, but when this video was shot, the conditions (temperature, humidity, prevailing winds) were just right to maintain a thick contrail. Add the setting sun and some clouds to the mix, and you get an effect that makes it seem like the contrail is billowing.

It looks like it's going say, 5-10 miles up, but in reality it's probably 40-60 miles long. It's the angle that gives it an illusion.
 
2010-11-10 12:36:13 PM  
The Decider: To all the people saying it was a contrail, the FAA said according to the radar tapes there was no traffic in the area at the time.

Now what?


We do have stealth aircraft.
 
2010-11-10 12:36:31 PM  
Hard Harry: The thing is, if this is really just a contrail, than why have we not seen this before.
I grew up in L.A. and was there for 25 years and was in the aviation industry, I don't remember ever seeing this before.



How much of that time did you spend in a helicopter at sunset?
Those seem like they would be relevant variables in determining how common this type of thing actually is.
 
2010-11-10 12:36:49 PM  
i232.photobucket.com

"It looks like an airplane - without wings!"
 
2010-11-10 12:38:10 PM  
wee: Someone thinks we're idiots.

No.

Just you.
 
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