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(The New York Times)   Next up for the super-snowflake treatment: the high school yearbook   (nytimes.com) divider line 177
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2010-11-07 10:00:17 AM
Doesn't really prepare them for real life, does it?

Who gives a shiat about high school after the cap and gown comes off anyway? I wasn't a jock or anything but I was fairly well liked in high school. Had a few good friends. I had a pretty good time. I think I sold Christmas trees or some shiat for some club but when it was over it was over. I have no idea where my yearbook is. I didn't go to my reunion because anyone from high school who I want to see again I'm already still in touch with. Christ, get over it.
 
2010-11-07 10:07:16 AM
I showed up fourteen times in my senior yearbook from a high school of about 250 kids.
 
2010-11-07 10:20:06 AM
Large schools like the 3,000-student William R. Boone High School in Orlando, Fla., try to enforce a one-time-per-person rule for candid photos and quotations, but nine slipped in twice last year. "I do not let them forget that," said Renee Burke, the yearbook adviser. "That's nine kids that didn't get in because these nine were there twice."

This level of reasoning skill, and they still let her be a teacher.
 
2010-11-07 10:21:25 AM
I don't know how many times I showed up in my high school year book photos, but I hope it was as little as possible.
 
2010-11-07 10:27:40 AM
The only problem with this policy is that unlike school administrators, high school students are not idiots, and they know: 1. that there is no difference between appearing only once and appearing twice because of this policy, and 2. that it absolutely does not matter at all.
 
2010-11-07 10:48:59 AM
dahmers love zombie: Large schools like the 3,000-student William R. Boone High School in Orlando, Fla., try to enforce a one-time-per-person rule for candid photos and quotations, but nine slipped in twice last year. "I do not let them forget that," said Renee Burke, the yearbook adviser. "That's nine kids that didn't get in because these nine were there twice."

This level of reasoning skill, and they still let her be a teacher.


I'm thinking that they hired her as a teacher BECAUSE of that level of reasoning skill. This is Florida we're talking about here.
 
2010-11-07 10:57:34 AM
I suppose I can kinda understand a desire to have at least one candid shot of each kid, because it gives a feel of what they were like, their natural posing, whatever. Otherwise they only have the one "mugshot" pic.

However, that wouldn't change the fact that some kids would get far more candid shots, and I don't really see a problem with that.

These days with digital cameras it's probably pretty easy for teachers to just snap some candid hallway shots if nothing else, throughout the year, and there should be some tiny image of even the shyest guy by his locker or busily taking a test or something. So do up the yearbook as usual, then figure out who isn't shown yet, and pick something from the extra stash of hallway/front door/random class pics to put in as little "filler" atmosphere pics somewhere.
 
2010-11-07 10:58:55 AM
imgs.sfgate.com
 
2010-11-07 11:17:11 AM
Next year we'll be big shots, Dylan. We'll show the world!!!

Love,

Eric
 
2010-11-07 11:17:16 AM
Good God. when will this madness end?
 
2010-11-07 11:21:54 AM
www.bannedinhollywood.com
 
2010-11-07 11:22:35 AM
As non-member of the upper caste in high school, I have to say I applaud this effort. Countless times I went back to my book to relive those memories, only to see my picture in there twice. It still hurts, 30 years later.

/oh wait, no it doesn't.
//Good fun and all, haven't been to reunion yet.
///life goes on
 
2010-11-07 11:23:28 AM
The yearbook for Scotch Plains-Fanwood High School doubles as its unofficial social register: students closely study the index of names in the back and count how many times they appear.

The only people that do this are the insecure attention whores who probably do all they can to appear in there as much as possible in the first place. I guarantee a majority of students couldn't care less how many times they're in there. My yearbooks never had indexes and I can't say I ever saw one that did.
 
2010-11-07 11:23:35 AM
The year before last, teachers weren't included in the yearbook at the school where I teach. I understand that it's about the students, but who do you think took time out of their classes to walk all the kids over for pictures to make sure that there was a shot of each of them to put in the yearbook?
 
2010-11-07 11:23:43 AM
When every guy gets a BJ from a Varsity cheerleader!
 
2010-11-07 11:23:49 AM
I appeared more than almost anyone in my school in my yearbook - which was quite an achievement for someone who was only there for my final year.

Might have had something to do with dating the editor...

Kind of bimbarrassing, actually.
 
2010-11-07 11:24:19 AM
I thought the one time for the pic that was in the class section was one too many. I have found out years later the only people i cared to see in the yearbook were the hot teachers, the rest of my class not so much.
 
2010-11-07 11:24:26 AM
I don't care for yearbooks.

In fact, I don't care for pictures of me between grade 3 and University. It was not a photogenic period.
 
2010-11-07 11:24:55 AM
Uhhhh, actually you are usually in the yearbook more if you do more shiat. Most yearbooks (unless they've changed since I was in school, which admittedly was many years ago) feature pictures of clubs, school activities, etc. So if you do a lot of that, you show up a lot. If you don't, then you only have your one shot.

I would think this is how it should be. The whole point is to document what happens at school, being that it is a school yearbook. Makes sense pictures would reflect that.

Besides, kids need to understand none of that shiat matters. Once you are out of high school, all that crap goes away. When you go on to a university campus with 30,000-100,000 other people, you don't mean shiat no matter who you are. All those social cliques just become meaningless. People still have groups of friends of course, but it is so huge, so varied, there are no "popular kids" that seem to control everything.

It's all a bunch of silliness that lasts for a very short period of your life.
 
2010-11-07 11:25:56 AM
From Family Guy

TV Announcer: And now back to One Tree Hill

Teen #1: Dude let me tell you something. There's nothing that'll ever happen for the rest of our lives that's more important then what's going on right here right now in high school by these lockers.

Teen #2: I've got so many problems.

Teen #1: Hey, it's nothing that can't be fixed by staring at a lake.

(Singing voiceover) High school is such a serious thing, these problems matter.

Stewie: God these high school students are lame, I'm a freaking baby and I'm cooler then they are.

Brian: What the hell do you know about high school?

Stewie: Are you kidding, these kids today are so easy to manipulate. If you plopped me in the middle of a high school I could be the most popular kid there in a week.
 
2010-11-07 11:26:07 AM
sycraft: Uhhhh, actually you are usually in the yearbook more if you do more shiat. Most yearbooks (unless they've changed since I was in school, which admittedly was many years ago) feature pictures of clubs, school activities, etc. So if you do a lot of that, you show up a lot. If you don't, then you only have your one shot.

I would think this is how it should be. The whole point is to document what happens at school, being that it is a school yearbook. Makes sense pictures would reflect that.

Besides, kids need to understand none of that shiat matters. Once you are out of high school, all that crap goes away. When you go on to a university campus with 30,000-100,000 other people, you don't mean shiat no matter who you are. All those social cliques just become meaningless. People still have groups of friends of course, but it is so huge, so varied, there are no "popular kids" that seem to control everything.

It's all a bunch of silliness that lasts for a very short period of your life.


I blame the teachers. Seriously, grow a farking backbone and put parents in their farking place.
 
2010-11-07 11:26:48 AM
lanmac: I have found out years later the only people i cared to see in the yearbook were the hot teachers, the rest of my class not so much.

See my above quote! Thank you for justifying my indignation.
 
2010-11-07 11:26:53 AM
As someone who took pictures for the yearbook, I'm getting a kick...
 
2010-11-07 11:27:17 AM
I was a staff photographer for my high school newspaper and yearbook. Looking back, I'm struck by how little all that means to real life.
 
2010-11-07 11:28:08 AM
If you're more popular, you're featured more; if you're not, you're barely seen," said Quentin Blackwell, 17, a co-captain of the football team who appeared five times last year. "It shows your status, where you are on the totem pole of high school."


Crazy. Is that really what high school has become? Man. It is almost like, sprawling on the fringes of the city, in geometric order, an insulated border, in between the bright lights and the far unlit unknown. Growing up it all seems so one-sided. Opinions are provided. The future? Pre-decided. Detached and subdivided sn the mass subduction zone.

Nowhere is the dreamer or the misfit so alone.

In the high school halls. In the shopping malls. "Conform or be cast out". In the basement bars. In the backs of cars. "Be cool or be cast out". Any escape might help disprove the unattractive truth, but the suburbs have no charms to soothe the restless dreams of youth.

Drawn like moths we drift into the city, the timeless old attraction, cruising for the action. Lit up like a firefly. Just to feel the living night. Well, some will sell their dreams for small desires. Or lose the race to rats. Get caught in ticking traps. And start to dream of somewhere to relax their restless flight. Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights.
 
2010-11-07 11:30:12 AM
I wasn't ever involved in any extracurricular activities in high school, but I knew quite a few kids who were into a lot of things, and were thus in many yearbook photos, and deservedly so, in my opinion. They made the effort to be involved.

As far as this article is concerned, I do like the fact that these kids at least care enough to make all their peers feel good about themselves. It's positive, a nice thing.
 
2010-11-07 11:30:26 AM
There was a guy I knew on the yearbook staff who put his picture in every year's class of the yearbook. He used quirky pseudonyms for each of the pictures.
 
2010-11-07 11:31:43 AM
KateAirRaid: lanmac: I have found out years later the only people i cared to see in the yearbook were the hot teachers, the rest of my class not so much.

See my above quote! Thank you for justifying my indignation.


checks profile, yeah about that hot teacher thing
 
2010-11-07 11:32:45 AM
Mad Scientist: I was a staff photographer for my high school newspaper and yearbook. Looking back, I'm struck by how little all that means to real life.

Me too, 'cept there was that one time in the darkroom when our hot journalism teacher rubbed her boobies across my back. It was kinda small, and she had bigguns. It scarred me for life.

/giggity
 
2010-11-07 11:34:43 AM
I boycotted my HS yearbook my senior year. My picture doesn't appear in it once.
On the page for seniors where everyone has a big color photo, there's just a blank spot with my name.

The yearbook staff kept pestering me for a photo and I told them to shove it.
 
2010-11-07 11:35:44 AM
To everyone that didn't go to their reunions (or are planning to skip it): Go. Nothing better to see how bad the people that "ran" the school turned out. They hate their jobs, divorced 3 times, and look like hell. Made the trip to my 20th worth it. I might even plan the 25th. The people that did well socially in school have no idea how to handle things when they don't have everyone looking up to them. Being in the "lower class" prepares you much better for the real world.
 
2010-11-07 11:37:42 AM
I only showed up 3 times in my senior yearbook and I turned out pretty good. I look back at some of those that appeared many times and laugh at where they are now.
 
2010-11-07 11:38:32 AM
Mad Scientist: I was a staff photographer for my high school newspaper and yearbook. Looking back, I'm struck by how little all that means to real life.

This. Sure, it got me out of some classes and enabled me to go to games free but now? I can barely remember how to develop film.
 
2010-11-07 11:39:32 AM
I appeared in 1 candid shot throughout my ENTIRE 4 years in High School. In the pic, I'm reading Rousseau's "On Social Contract" for my European History class and the caption reads "my name...is studying hard for a Shakespeare final" and the cover of the book is clearly seen in the photo. I lost all my faith in high school humanity after that, not that I had much to begin with.
 
2010-11-07 11:39:51 AM
The Pussification of America at the hands of Liberals continues.
 
2010-11-07 11:40:43 AM
I just did this for a year long military school and went for the equal inclusion angle. It seems quite natural whereas high school it would not. Hmmmm.
 
2010-11-07 11:41:45 AM
dahmers love zombie: Large schools like the 3,000-student William R. Boone High School in Orlando, Fla., try to enforce a one-time-per-person rule for candid photos and quotations, but nine slipped in twice last year. "I do not let them forget that," said Renee Burke, the yearbook adviser. "That's nine kids that didn't get in because these nine were there twice."

This level of reasoning skill, and they still let her be a teacher.


Hah! I graduated from Boone High about 25 (almost 30) years ago. It's gotten huge since then. They have bought and leveled about 4 blocks of houses to expand the school.
 
2010-11-07 11:43:21 AM
Isn't it much more important to help kids feel comfortable in their own skin? Isn't this just reinforcing the idea that 'popularity' is more important than say, graduating with a good GPA, being a loyal friend, or taking care of your health? Aren't the popular kids in high school the ones who start drinking, smoking and farking younger than everyone else? The ones who get in the most trouble? The ones who succeed on the field of play rather than in the classroom? High School is nothing like real life, and that's part of the beauty of it.
 
2010-11-07 11:46:01 AM
King Something: dahmers love zombie: Large schools like the 3,000-student William R. Boone High School in Orlando, Fla., try to enforce a one-time-per-person rule for candid photos and quotations, but nine slipped in twice last year. "I do not let them forget that," said Renee Burke, the yearbook adviser. "That's nine kids that didn't get in because these nine were there twice."

This level of reasoning skill, and they still let her be a teacher.

I'm thinking that they hired her as a teacher BECAUSE of that level of reasoning skill. This is Florida we're talking about here.


Just to clarify; there are two types of teachers: 1) Went k-12, college, recieved credentials in college, got a job teaching by 22-23 & 2) Went K-12, WORKED IN THE REAL WORLD, did college (interchanging with work), recieved credentials, got a job teaching at xx age.

Teacher (1) supports this policy; teacher (2) has to hold back the vomit.

Please do not paint all teachers with the same brush. Teacher '2s' (a small population of all teachers) are trying their best to inject reason into the profession.
 
2010-11-07 11:47:20 AM
I worked yearbook in '97. Every kid was supposed to show up once or twice in a candid (out of a school of about 450 people). Also, my yearbook was run by the Marine in American Beauty. Which was not good, seeing as the guy had no idea about computers, creating a yearbook, or giving a shiat.

Once or twice? Didn't even come close. All the kids in the second semester of yearbook just put in their friends pics in and sent it to print (we did most of the page setups first semester). I was pissed because after 4 years of playing hockey (on a team of about 15 people max per year) I didn't get a pic of me playing once in 4 years. I should have at least had 1 pic senior year, being team captain and all, but some girl working that section put like 3 pics in of the same freshman boy she thought was cute.

I was pissed, and yada yada you can say all you want about snowflakes or life lessons, but that's not the point. Of course in hindsight everyone knows what a bunch of bullcrap social standings and high school in general are, but those omitted people were there. They had friends, trudged their ass in everyday like everyone else, and deserve some recognition at least for showing up, for better or for worse. They shared that experiance with you, cool or not.

The yearbook should be a reflection of everything high school was about and everyone involved, not a personal scrapbook for Skyler & Cindy's best moments.
 
2010-11-07 11:48:00 AM
My junior year there was some self absorbed attention whore on the yearbook staff.

She made sure she and her boyfriend were on as many pages as possible. We counted, in a school of less than 400, she appeared in 30 photos. The next closest was someone who was in 10 photos, and he was actually popular.

I was in like, 3. One was when I was giving blood and about to pass out from blood loss.
 
GBB
2010-11-07 11:48:15 AM
I would have been happy with them spelling my farking name right on the cover!! Oh, and no refunds for their mistake.
 
2010-11-07 11:48:55 AM
S.A.S.Q.U.A.T.C.H.:

The above being said, I can see the problem with schools of like 4,000 kids.
 
2010-11-07 11:50:38 AM
I haven't even looked at any of my yearbooks since I got them. I don't even know where any of them are. I have no desire to revisit high school in any way.
 
2010-11-07 11:51:03 AM
By patronizing the weak and unpopular, we are all being dragged down to their level.

The lowest common denominator is the only denominator now.
 
2010-11-07 11:51:24 AM
RickRR: To everyone that didn't go to their reunions (or are planning to skip it): Go. Nothing better to see how bad the people that "ran" the school turned out. They hate their jobs, divorced 3 times, and look like hell. Made the trip to my 20th worth it. I might even plan the 25th. The people that did well socially in school have no idea how to handle things when they don't have everyone looking up to them. Being in the "lower class" prepares you much better for the real world.

I didn't really experience that at my 10th reunion. It pretty much just turned into one big drunk and after looking at the pictures I can say that a fun time was had by all. The only slightly funny/sad things were all the cheerleaders are now cows and our superstar athlete who should be a WR in the NFL is a supervisor at wal mart. He showed up to the reunion in a rented pimped out car and in a very pimped out suit when everyone else was in casual attire. I wanted to pull him to the side and tell him he is no longer the man he thought he was but i let him have his glory for one night. I'm really looking forward to our 15th....been a while since i've gotten my drunk on.
 
2010-11-07 11:51:33 AM
If you burn the yearbook to DVD, you can have each person appear a hundred times.
 
2010-11-07 11:51:39 AM
I wasn't even in the yearbook for my senior year and you know what? I could care less. It was 20 years ago and hasn't meant anything to me for 19 of those years.
 
2010-11-07 11:52:02 AM
logieal: I boycotted my HS yearbook my senior year. My picture doesn't appear in it once.
On the page for seniors where everyone has a big color photo, there's just a blank spot with my name.

The yearbook staff kept pestering me for a photo and I told them to shove it.


They didn't even put a blank spot with my name, they just left me out entirely.

It worked, they didn't bug me at all about the stupid reunions.

The funny thing is, I'm actually in it several times, just not any sort of listing with the senior pictures.
 
2010-11-07 11:54:02 AM
Apart from the obligatory portrait I did not appear in my yearbook. That was fine with me. My only regret is that unlike Maddox (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=dumbassjocks)
I never got the opportunity to meet up with one in the grocery after graduation.
 
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