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(CBC)   Being in a homeless shelter is bad enough without the flesh-eating bacteria   (cbc.ca ) divider line
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2010-11-06 11:41:58 PM  
o snap. and i thought the scabies scare back at the women's shelter was bad.

turns out "flesh-eating" is worse than "gross!"
 
2010-11-07 12:07:11 AM  
suffering fever, muscle aches, vomiting or severe pain in any one area.

So every single homeless person?
 
2010-11-07 12:24:04 AM  
At least it's not MRSA
 
2010-11-07 01:11:57 AM  
Two of those cases developed into necrotizing fasciitis - more commonly known as flesh-eating disease. The patients range in age from 18 to 55

...so does that mean one 18-year-old, and one 55-year-old are what we're looking at here?
 
2010-11-07 01:43:29 AM  
gah
 
2010-11-07 06:40:33 AM  

Vanetia: Two of those cases developed into necrotizing fasciitis - more commonly known as flesh-eating disease. The patients range in age from 18 to 55

...so does that mean one 18-year-old, and one 55-year-old are what we're looking at here?


Also, why does it matter what age they are? Does the bacteria only attack people within a certain age range?
 
2010-11-07 06:43:10 AM  
That's just nasty.
 
2010-11-07 06:46:56 AM  
It's just a spider bite.

\\ems would get it.
 
2010-11-07 06:48:51 AM  
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2010-11-07 06:57:02 AM  
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be careful sir digby chicken caesar, we don't want to lose you
 
2010-11-07 07:10:49 AM  
Self solving problem.
 
2010-11-07 07:15:21 AM  
Oh my god!! Get a life!!!
 
2010-11-07 07:35:00 AM  

LeroyBourne: be careful sir digby chicken caesar, we don't want to lose you


Yeah, well what are you gonna do, toughguy? Jump through the screen and kill me? Get a life!!!
 
2010-11-07 07:36:45 AM  

SoothinglyDeranged: suffering fever, muscle aches, vomiting or severe pain in any one area.

So every single homeless person?


Sounds like heaven compared to my current living situation.
 
2010-11-07 07:53:45 AM  
Flesh eating bacteria makes my top 5 of worst ways to die.
 
2010-11-07 08:00:57 AM  
We had someone here die from it. Nicked herself on a barbed wire fence, died within weeks. Oddly the fence was in a pasture that hadn't been used in years and it was a barb that was on top of the fence. Apparently that stuff can hang around for a while.
 
2010-11-07 08:09:54 AM  
But, is it worse than flesh-eating homeless people?
 
2010-11-07 08:19:54 AM  
I'm still more worried about the fog that turns people inside out.
 
2010-11-07 08:20:06 AM  
Had it. Scary as hell. Caught it kneeling on a small pebble in my dad's driveway fixing his cable TV in the middle of winter. Didn't know how serious it was until they wheeled me out after I was cured and the nurse said "You know, this could have killed you". The flesh had just started turning black right before they debraded my knee.. csb.
 
2010-11-07 08:53:22 AM  
Is Ralph Klein is back up to his old tricks again?
 
2010-11-07 09:46:15 AM  

tbyte: At least it's not MRSA


I was hoping for a mrsa thread. :(
 
2010-11-07 10:42:05 AM  
Look on the bright side! Calgary is now going to be the cheapest place to film a zombie movie.
 
2010-11-07 02:46:19 PM  
Just horrible,,,,right up there with ebola
 
2010-11-07 04:43:04 PM  
Slap a little honey on that, clear it right up.
 
2010-11-07 05:46:02 PM  
My dad had that. They misdiagnosed it for several days--amazing it was still caught in time and he both survived and kept his leg. It's most common in people with circulation problems, like diabetics. But it can happen to anyone. I'm shocked they actually caught it in time in the case of 2 homeless people, and didn't just kick them out of the emergency room to die like dogs in the street. Oh, wait, it's Canada and their socialistic, fascistic medical system. No wonder they cure homeless people.
 
2010-11-07 06:22:53 PM  

Sonderling: Look on the bright side! Calgary is now going to be the cheapest place to film a zombie movie.


Hah!
 
2010-11-07 06:47:24 PM  

castufari: We had someone here die from it. Nicked herself on a barbed wire fence, died within weeks.


Kinan: Had it. Scary as hell. Caught it kneeling on a small pebble in my dad's driveway fixing his cable TV in the middle of winter.


I always thought it had to be a deep (though not necessarily large) wound.

If you can essentially get it from a papercut, does that mean it comes down to freak bad luck? Is this stuff just sitting around in various random places, and you just have to hope you don't happen to encounter it?
 
2010-11-07 09:27:43 PM  
There was no visible entry wound and the doctors had no idea how I contracted it. It was a sharp pebble I could feel through my jeans but since it was cold I didn't feel it was anything severe, just a pebble.

They seemed to think it only attacked people in weakened states but I was healthy at the time mountain biking just days before.

It ended up being MRSA and I had to endure 4 hr drips of Vancomycin daily for 5 days until it subsided.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancomycin).

Wiki says it is the drug of last resort but the doctors said there was one more drug in their arsenal.
It was somewhat humbling, especially when I met a healthy looking guy in a wheelchair on the way out who was missing both of his legs. It could have been me.
 
2010-11-07 09:31:57 PM  
Look on the bright side, now the shelters will have room left if you need it.
 
2010-11-07 10:10:05 PM  

Kinan: There was no visible entry wound and the doctors had no idea how I contracted it. It was a sharp pebble I could feel through my jeans but since it was cold I didn't feel it was anything severe, just a pebble.


Is it possible that it was caused by something else? I'm sure you thought it through, but it just seems weird that you didn't even have a bleeding wound. If that is indeed the case, then you can basically contract it via firm touch, through denim, which is alarming.

Anyway, congrats on surviving that!
 
2010-11-08 04:12:53 AM  
Is it possible that it was caused by something else? I'm sure you thought it through, but it just seems weird that you didn't even have a bleeding wound. If that is indeed the case, then you can basically contract it via firm touch, through denim, which is alarming.


If anyone still here is wondering about this: EVERY case I've heard of involved someone getting a really superficial cut. A scratch, basically. Because if you bleed a lot, then you may very well wash the bacteria away. But it can also be caused by bad trauma. So basically, you're totally farked. As for firm touch: I saw this report on this one guy who was a handyman. He leaned forward and his belt buckle dug into his waist. He developed necrotizing fasciitis shortly therefter at the site of the buckle. My dad got a small scratch on his ankle through his clothes. Some woman I read about got a slight scratch on her finger, didn't even remember when. The type of bacteria that cause this are very common.
 
2010-11-08 07:54:42 AM  

quizzical1: If anyone still here is wondering about this: EVERY case I've heard of involved someone getting a really superficial cut. A scratch, basically. Because if you bleed a lot, then you may very well wash the bacteria away. But it can also be caused by bad trauma. So basically, you're totally farked. As for firm touch: I saw this report on this one guy who was a handyman. He leaned forward and his belt buckle dug into his waist. He developed necrotizing fasciitis shortly therefter at the site of the buckle. My dad got a small scratch on his ankle through his clothes. Some woman I read about got a slight scratch on her finger, didn't even remember when. The type of bacteria that cause this are very common.


So if it's all over the place and takes less than a papercut, do you know what's stopping everyone from getting this on a daily basis?
 
2010-11-08 11:54:53 AM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulitis is what it started as.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrotizing_fasciitis is what it became. It was a strep bacteria.

Thankfully I went it when it looked the the picture of the guy's shin. They traced the outline of the redness, gave me some antibiotics (one which was Methicillin)and sent me home. Twice, with two different oral antibiotics. When the 2nd didn't work they admitted me, put me on vancomycin then debrided the knee right as the skin started turning black.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debridement).
It ended up being a one inch incision on my kneecap which they stuffed about 10 feet of 2" wide gauze after they removed all of the dead tissue. They sent me home after the second bandage change with a hypo and a bottle of Lidocain so I could change the bandages myself.
The whole thing started as a dull red deep pain in my knee that was warm to the touch. I knew something was up when I got out of my vehicle and it hurt pretty bad.
Throughout the whole episode no one ever took the time to tell me the severity of my condition until I was wheeled out of the door, cured. This was in 2007 right before MRSA was common in the news. All through this I felt physically fine and in good spirits eating, sleeping, drinking normally. I still have no clue how I caught it, the pebble was the only thing I remembered.
 
2010-11-08 07:14:08 PM  

Kinan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellulitis is what it started as.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necrotizing_fasciitis is what it became. It was a strep bacteria.

Thankfully I went it when it looked the the picture of the guy's shin. They traced the outline of the redness, gave me some antibiotics (one which was Methicillin)and sent me home. Twice, with two different oral antibiotics. When the 2nd didn't work they admitted me, put me on vancomycin then debrided the knee right as the skin started turning black.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debridement).
It ended up being a one inch incision on my kneecap which they stuffed about 10 feet of 2" wide gauze after they removed all of the dead tissue. They sent me home after the second bandage change with a hypo and a bottle of Lidocain so I could change the bandages myself.
The whole thing started as a dull red deep pain in my knee that was warm to the touch. I knew something was up when I got out of my vehicle and it hurt pretty bad.
Throughout the whole episode no one ever took the time to tell me the severity of my condition until I was wheeled out of the door, cured. This was in 2007 right before MRSA was common in the news. All through this I felt physically fine and in good spirits eating, sleeping, drinking normally. I still have no clue how I caught it, the pebble was the only thing I remembered.


Thanks for sharing (seriously).

It makes more sense that it started as something less severe, which then had the potential to escalate to something much worse (which in your case unfortunately it did)--as opposed to jumping directly to the severe level via pebble.
 
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