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(News.com.au)   "Late for work" excuses rise to a new level of facepalm with, "My iPhone didn't properly adjust to Greenwich Mean Time"   (news.com.au) divider line 54
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2010-11-03 01:42:16 PM
I don't know about regular news media, but tech blogs have been crowing about this for a while. I went right back to my standard alarm clock when I found out.
 
2010-11-03 01:46:24 PM
This happened to my wife's phone.

Luckily I have an Android so we were grand.
 
2010-11-03 01:46:33 PM
I don't have an iPhone but I do use my phone as my alarm clock so I'm getting a kick &etc.
 
2010-11-03 01:49:34 PM
There's a nap for that.
 
2010-11-03 01:50:23 PM
This was news back on Monday. Why is it an insta-green today?
 
2010-11-03 01:50:29 PM
People rely on their phones as an everyday alarm clock? What would they do if they lost their phone? Has our dependence on smartphones really come this far? Sheesh...
 
2010-11-03 01:50:31 PM
Damn kids employed by Apple too young to learn the lessons of Y2K. >shakes fist!<
 
2010-11-03 01:51:06 PM
probesport: There's a nap for that.

Win.
 
2010-11-03 01:52:21 PM
My "smart" alarm clock f*cked up my day Sunday. I bought it 6 years ago and it automatically changes itself twice a year when we have to change the clocks. Problem is Congress went and changed the dates we change the clocks effective in 2007 so now the "smart clock" is a "dumb clock" and changes itself on the wrong day twice a year. Thanks Congress! I got up Sunday for an appointment thinking it was 9:30 when it was really 10:30.
 
2010-11-03 01:54:05 PM
tuxq: People rely on their phones as an everyday alarm clock? What would they do if they lost their phone? Has our dependence on smartphones really come this far? Sheesh...

The portability is the big thing. Your "alarm clock" is always with you. Plus, it's battery powered. And it automatically syncs to your provider's time server.

Actually, a cell phone is better than a regular alarm clock in almost every way. And better than a watch, too.
 
2010-11-03 01:54:29 PM
I must be missing something, or maybe the articles just do a crappy job explaining the bug. If the alarm app didn't update for DST, wouldn't it have thought it was an hour later than it actually is and therefore wake people up an hour early?
 
2010-11-03 01:56:11 PM
tuxq: People rely on their phones as an everyday alarm clock? What would they do if they lost their phone? Has our dependence on smartphones really come this far? Sheesh...

I know right?

Sent on the Sprint Now Network from my BlackBerry
 
2010-11-03 01:58:39 PM
tuxq: People rely on their phones as an everyday alarm clock? What would they do if they lost their phone? Has our dependence on smartphones really come this far? Sheesh...

It's not just smartphones, I use my cell phone as an alarm clock as well. The damn thing can't do more than text and call, but it is a good alarm clock. And it loves to try to sync with a satellite somewhere for an automatic time change at daylight savings. Only it's an old phone that can't sync very well, so it usually resets to New York (EST), when I live in a MST zone. Annoying, but easy to catch.
 
2010-11-03 01:59:53 PM
That's funny, my iphone 3GS alarm has been going off an hour early since the time change in the UK, and I'm in the US. The clock displays the correct time, but the alarm will sound an hour too early. I thought I was losing my mind yesterday and today.
 
2010-11-03 02:00:16 PM
What's an iPhone 4?

/For pooping on, silly.
//Love my Android
 
2010-11-03 02:01:24 PM
Can't we just all agree that DST sucks

Sent from my Verizon Wireless brick Phone
 
2010-11-03 02:02:17 PM
davideggy: I must be missing something, or maybe the articles just do a crappy job explaining the bug. If the alarm app didn't update for DST, wouldn't it have thought it was an hour later than it actually is and therefore wake people up an hour early?

Indeed, the clocks just went back an hour in the UK.
 
2010-11-03 02:04:42 PM
taeodong: Can't we just all agree that DST sucks

Yeah, it isn't as if it's an old tradition or anything, just a holdover from WWII that makes no sense nowadays, and really farks with poor night-shift workers
 
2010-11-03 02:09:12 PM
loathable cockroach: davideggy: I must be missing something, or maybe the articles just do a crappy job explaining the bug. If the alarm app didn't update for DST, wouldn't it have thought it was an hour later than it actually is and therefore wake people up an hour early?

Indeed, the clocks just went back an hour in the UK.


Yes, but that means any clock that didn't correct for DST would be an hour fast, not slow.
 
2010-11-03 02:09:28 PM
I never understood why some people need alarms and others don't.

/i don't
 
2010-11-03 02:13:49 PM
Electronic device on: check.
Brain off: check.
 
2010-11-03 02:27:52 PM
toilet engineer: That's funny, my iphone 3GS alarm has been going off an hour early since the time change in the UK, and I'm in the US. The clock displays the correct time, but the alarm will sound an hour too early. I thought I was losing my mind yesterday and today.

Same here. I was confused Monday morning when my alarm went off a hour early, so I reset it for the normal time and it never went off again so I ended up late for work. Same thing happened Tuesday, but I just forced myself up anyway.

Apparently its just the repeat alarms that are having problems. If you just set it for one day at a time it will go off at the correct time.
 
2010-11-03 02:33:38 PM
I read an educated guess that the bug is the alarm uses the system time which isn't DST corrected, while the time you see on screen is DST corrected. This is evidently something that takes months to fix.
 
2010-11-03 02:41:08 PM
Come on people! I though this was going to be an "excuses to be late for work" thread. :>(
 
2010-11-03 02:43:13 PM
Please. Anyone???
 
2010-11-03 02:45:57 PM
VvonderJesus: I never understood why some people need alarms and others don't.

/i don't


Just means your circadian rhythm is lined up with your actual schedule, which is handy. Mine never used to be, but over the last couple months I've been getting up right before my alarm goes off and have been able to turn it off before it wakes up my girlfriend. It's kinda nice actually feeling awake when I wake up, but it sucks on weekends.
 
2010-11-03 02:50:14 PM
probesport: There's a nap for that.

Nice.
 
2010-11-03 03:02:34 PM
Coincidentally, myFark reported this story earlier this week
 
2010-11-03 03:03:08 PM
My Circadian rhythm only lines up with my schedule on Mars.

I recently bought a "light box" type lamp that produces 10,000 lumens (about five 100 Watt lights) and hope this will help.

What do we have to do to convince the politicians to stop farking with the clocks? There's billions of dollars at stake, not to mention lives, and no very solid evidence the net effect of DST is beneficial--it's especially weak the further North you go--in Canada it makes little sense at all because you don't "save" any day light and you end up spending more on air-conditioning, heat, etc., so you don't save any money.

Still, there but for the Grace of God, goes all of us. The candy lobby got to the DST mongers and convinced them to hold off on the change until November 7-8 in the US (and Canada follows suit). This allows the kiddies an extra hour to trick and treat, and the industry hopes that's enough to convince them to fill their loot bags all that much longer.
 
2010-11-03 03:19:09 PM
This happened to me and I don't have an iPhone, just an iPod touch. I set my alarm for 7.05 on Tuesday (Monday was a holiday) and it went off at 8.05, which really sucked because I was supposed to be ready and in front of a classroom at 8.20.

It went off an hour late today, but it was ok because I had set a back-up. Still, I was really confused when I set a one-time alarm for later in the afternoon and it went off at the right time.

And now I know why. Thanks Fark!
 
2010-11-03 03:23:09 PM
koinbahd: toilet engineer: That's funny, my iphone 3GS alarm has been going off an hour early since the time change in the UK, and I'm in the US. The clock displays the correct time, but the alarm will sound an hour too early. I thought I was losing my mind yesterday and today.

Same here. I was confused Monday morning when my alarm went off a hour early, so I reset it for the normal time and it never went off again so I ended up late for work. Same thing happened Tuesday, but I just forced myself up anyway.

Apparently its just the repeat alarms that are having problems. If you just set it for one day at a time it will go off at the correct time.


This might actually explain the problem that they're seeing in Europe then - the clock is being adjusted, and somewhere the saved time for the alarm is also being adjusted, which for some reason was applied to American phones when DST happened in Europe. The double adjustment is what's causing people to wake an hour late.
Sounds like the recurring alarms were developed by a different team of devs from the system clock (possibly a European based team, if it adjusted for all US phones at the start of the week).
 
2010-11-03 03:23:29 PM
I did actually end up late for work once when clocks moved forward in Spring, so when I got up at what I thought was 7 something and was moving at my usual pace I was actually 20 minutes away from being late without realizing it.

In my weak admittedly somewhat weak defense, I was out of town the day of the switch and came back after it had occurred, not realizing I still needed to fix my alarm clock since my phone had automatically switched while I was away and I never had to make the conscious change. I make sure to stay on top of when that crap happens now.
 
2010-11-03 03:24:02 PM
Excuse. n. - A reason given by someone else.
 
2010-11-03 03:26:03 PM
HalEmmerich: I did actually end up late for work once when clocks moved forward in Spring, so when I got up at what I thought was 7 something and was moving at my usual pace I was actually 20 minutes away from being late without realizing it.

In my weak admittedly somewhat weak defense, I was out of town the day of the switch and came back after it had occurred, not realizing I still needed to fix my alarm clock since my phone had automatically switched while I was away and I never had to make the conscious change. I make sure to stay on top of when that crap happens now.


Apparently I actually do need that afternoon coffee today. To clarify the story somewhat and not make this a total waste, I do use a desk alarm and not the one on my phone. Though I need to make a change of somesort, over the years I've grown so used to the alarm buzz of my clock that I sleep through it sometimes now.

/that one's an even worse excuse for being late
//usually do eventually wake up though
 
2010-11-03 03:50:45 PM
Late for work = firing.

I'd fire anyone 20 seconds late for work. I'd get extra enjoyment if it were someone who was a paycheck away from living on the street. If you're too damn stupid to know enough to leave in time to be at work on time you don't deserve a job.

/no conscious, no regard for others.
//way I roll. Good luck. Not really.
 
2010-11-03 03:55:37 PM
loathable cockroach: avideggy: I must be missing something, or maybe the articles just do a crappy job explaining the bug. If the alarm app didn't update for DST, wouldn't it have thought it was an hour later than it actually is and therefore wake people up an hour early?

Indeed, the clocks just went back an hour in the UK.
the rest of the world, including Mexico and Canada.

I hate this week and the week in the spring. I don't care who wins the argument, just fix this two different DST problem
 
2010-11-03 03:59:40 PM
HotSalsaZoot: Late for work = firing.

I'd fire anyone 20 seconds late for work. I'd get extra enjoyment if it were someone who was a paycheck away from living on the street. If you're too damn stupid to know enough to leave in time to be at work on time you don't deserve a job.

/no conscious, no regard for others.
//way I Troll. Good luck. Not really.


0/10 way too obvious. fail troll
 
2010-11-03 04:04:31 PM
HotSalsaZoot: Late for work = firing.

I'd fire anyone 20 seconds late for work. I'd get extra enjoyment if it were someone who was a paycheck away from living on the street. If you're too damn stupid to know enough to leave in time to be at work on time you don't deserve a job.

/no conscious, no regard for others.
//way I roll. Good luck. Not really.


Says the guy presumably farking while he works. GBTW tough guy
 
2010-11-03 05:08:06 PM
Xyling: Electronic device on: check.
Brain off: check.


Self-proving post: Check.
 
2010-11-03 05:17:09 PM
blahpers: Xyling: Electronic device on: check.
Brain off: check.

Self-proving post: Check.


I do enjoy people that like to act like Luddites when it comes to small electronics which have features that have been available for the last 15-20 years on the internet. The internet. One of the greatest technical achievements of mankind's history
 
2010-11-03 05:48:05 PM
Ugh, I have one of those atomic clocks that automatically sets itself, and the damn thing went back an hour this past weekend. It is ALWAYS wrong for DST - can never get the days right. Thankfully it was a Sunday (not that it matters since I'm unemployed) and my laptop and cellphone still had the correct time, but still I had to turn on the radio to find out what time it actually was. Pain in the ass.

/good ol' KYW - always there in my times of clock-related confusion
 
2010-11-03 05:57:21 PM
Walker: My "smart" alarm clock f*cked up my day Sunday. I bought it 6 years ago and it automatically changes itself twice a year when we have to change the clocks. Problem is Congress went and changed the dates we change the clocks effective in 2007 so now the "smart clock" is a "dumb clock" and changes itself on the wrong day twice a year. Thanks Congress! I got up Sunday for an appointment thinking it was 9:30 when it was really 10:30.

This. I have to set it on a different time zone twice a year. Annoying as heck. I keep thinking by now we should have gone through all the old stock and hopefully clocks out there now have the new time adjustments right? Did Congress even stop to THINK about what they were doing when they did that?
 
2010-11-03 06:19:29 PM
VvonderJesus: I never understood why some people need alarms and others don't.

/i don't


Sleeping is awesome and mornings sucks. That's my reason. There are days where I'd wake up on time for work without an alarm, but it would be twice a month at most and it would only happen when some other sound has cracked the barrier of sweet, soothing slumber and forced my mind into "FARK GOD DAMNIT NO IT'S STILL DARK OUT FUUUUUUUUUUU" mode.

As odd as it sounds, being very angry at having to wake up early is very effective at waking you up.
 
2010-11-03 06:24:35 PM
beachcactus: Come on people! I though this was going to be an "excuses to be late for work" thread. :>(

Meh. My co-worker has a million of them.

I'm allergic to cheese and I have hives.
I had cheese last night and I'm swollen today.
I had to take my kid to her school's Halloween party.
I went to find my polling place and I got lost.
My kid's sick.
My husband's sick.
I had something with milk and now I am covered in hives and I had to go to the doctor.
I had to go get my lap band adjusted.

She's never here and I don't know how she gets away with that.
 
2010-11-03 06:25:09 PM
Cajnik:
Says the guy presumably farking while he works. GBTW tough guy

No, dickface, just no tolerance for late morons. Like you. Get a job.
 
2010-11-03 06:37:07 PM
Needlessly Complicated: beachcactus: Come on people! I though this was going to be an "excuses to be late for work" thread. :>(

Meh. My co-worker has a million of them.

I'm allergic to cheese and I have hives.
I had cheese last night and I'm swollen today.
I had to take my kid to her school's Halloween party.
I went to find my polling place and I got lost.
My kid's sick.
My husband's sick.
I had something with milk and now I am covered in hives and I had to go to the doctor.
I had to go get my lap band adjusted.

She's never here and I don't know how she gets away with that.


That's why. Some women are very good at playing that game with a, usually male, boss. I used to work with one and it always amazed me what she was able to get away with.

My favorite was the day she showed up nearly 2 hours late claiming she had a flat tire and she had to call her husband to come home and fix it.

So on lunch I stroll around her car and see all 4 tires have pretty identical amounts of wear and grime accumulation. Almost as if none of them had been repaired or replaced at all. I had to give her props for that. She was pretty much just phoning that one in and the boss still ate it up.

I'd be too scared to try something like that without at least swapping out the tire for a spare. If I'm going to be fired, it needs to be for something way farking cooler than a 10 o' clock arrival.

"Spaced Cowboy, why did you show up for work today with nothing but a sock on your junk?"

"Isn't it socks on cocks Friday? I could have sworn that was calendared for today. Oh, that must be NEXT Friday. Well, at least it's a black sock. That still counts as business casual right?"
 
2010-11-03 06:48:19 PM
Cormee: This happened to my wife's phone.

Luckily I have an Android so we were grand.


I suppose technically this *would* happen to my phone, but a lack of daylight savings shenanigans is one of the few things Arizona does right.

/Indiana sold out to Big Daylight, though
 
2010-11-03 07:49:31 PM
HotSalsaZoot: Late for work = firing.

I'd fire anyone 20 seconds late for work. I'd get extra enjoyment if it were someone who was a paycheck away from living on the street. If you're too damn stupid to know enough to leave in time to be at work on time you don't deserve a job.

/no conscious, no regard for others.
//way I roll. Good luck. Not really.


You apparently work in some shiathole factory. People with important jobs tend to be more flexible. Then again, they can also spell conscience.

/know your trollin tho, didnt need disclaimer. geuss i did'nt eihthr
 
2010-11-03 07:54:08 PM
Cast:
You apparently work in some shiathole factory. People with important jobs tend to be more flexible. Then again, they can also spell conscience.

/know your trollin tho, didnt need disclaimer. geuss i did'nt eihthr


Nah, just run a software shop. Not flexible & really don't care about people or their feelings. Total rat bastard, thanks.
Oh, can't spell either, but either isn't eihthr.

/The more you know, the dumber you get
//walmart - flexible shifts, eh?
 
2010-11-03 08:34:09 PM
Odd. As much as I love small portable technology and smartphones, I wouldn't dream of even using one as an alarm.

One £5.99 basic alarm clock has suited my needs for years. My pen and paper diary has the days listed from GMT to BST and back. No need to bother fiddling with the mobile at all.
 
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