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(Globe and Mail)   Polio on the verge of eradication, with only Turkmenistan, the Central African Republic, Nigeria and California to go   (theglobeandmail.com) divider line 85
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2010-11-02 10:08:52 AM  
What kind of polio? Water polio or the horseback kind? I kinda like the horseback kind.
 
2010-11-02 10:14:38 AM  
MARCO
 
2010-11-02 10:18:00 AM  
I was tempted to pull a CDK and start ranting about the evils of vaccination, but stuff like this is just too cool

Smallpox: Gone
Polio: Almost gone, a curiosity
Measles: Eliminated in large chunks of the world
99% reduction in the first world of stuff like whooping cough, rubella, mumps and a bunch of others
We even have a vaccine against a form of cancer.

Science farking rocks. Suck it, McCarthys of the world.
 
2010-11-02 10:18:28 AM  
But...but....vaccines cause teh AUTISM!!11!#
 
2010-11-02 10:20:20 AM  
Polio is a liberal myth. Smart republicans will resist any attempt to "immunize" their children. All you need is a bible.
 
2010-11-02 10:20:49 AM  
And Minnesota (new window). Among the un-vaccinated Amish.
 
2010-11-02 10:23:23 AM  
Polio is the least of this (new window) guy's worries.

/met him a few years ago
//hope he's still alive
 
2010-11-02 10:26:43 AM  
California? No, the anti-vaxers seem to want their kids to catch whooping cough, not polio. Apparently the prospect of an iron lung in the living room lets them swallow some polio vaccine.
 
2010-11-02 10:28:24 AM  
+1 subby
 
2010-11-02 10:28:48 AM  
Jenny McCarthy is not amused.
 
2010-11-02 10:30:29 AM  
The greatest factor in eliminating polio was when they changed the diagnosis from polio to asceptic meningitis. When 99% of the cases suddenly become a different disease, the prevalence and mortality amazingly decrease at an extraordinary rate.

Link (new window)

The polio vaccine increased the number of 'poliomyelitis' cases. The truth hurts.

/but please give me your jenny mccarthy retorts. Because those are full of meaningful data that truly prove a point.
 
2010-11-02 10:30:39 AM  
Good. I hate those shirts.
 
2010-11-02 10:30:54 AM  
rufus-t-firefly: Jenny McCarthy is not amused.

What is her excuse for this shiat anyway? Kids are better off dead as long as they're not autistic?
 
2010-11-02 10:36:11 AM  
Glockenspiel Hero: I was tempted to pull a CDK and start ranting about the evils of vaccination, but stuff like this is just too cool

Smallpox: Gone
Polio: Almost gone, a curiosity
Measles: Eliminated in large chunks of the world
99% reduction in the first world of stuff like whooping cough, rubella, mumps and a bunch of others
We even have a vaccine against a form of cancer.

Science farking rocks. Suck it, McCarthys of the world.


Yeah, it's funny because just last week as I was toweling dry from a shower, I noticed my smallpox vaccine scar and thought "It won't be that long until nobody in the world has this scar anymore."

It was kind of an interesting (but very cool) feeling, to know that we've completely wiped it out, to the extent that even my kids weren't vaccinated against it.
 
2010-11-02 10:36:51 AM  
ABCDEFQ: The greatest factor in eliminating polio was when they changed the diagnosis from polio to asceptic meningitis. When 99% of the cases suddenly become a different disease, the prevalence and mortality amazingly decrease at an extraordinary rate.

Link (new window)

The polio vaccine increased the number of 'poliomyelitis' cases. The truth hurts.

/but please give me your jenny mccarthy retorts. Because those are full of meaningful data that truly prove a point.


Is your link supposed to convince me that vaccines are unnecessary and cause autism? If not, then shut the fark up abotu Jenny McCarthy, okay?
 
2010-11-02 10:37:00 AM  
You needs healin'? Let jeeeeezus(!) inta yer hart, and if'n you are s'posed to be healed you'll be HE-ale-DUH.
 
2010-11-02 10:37:48 AM  
ABCDEFQ: The truth hurts.

Not sure if you are serious, Your link is not truth, in any way shape or form.

GBS and cholera are easily distinguished from polio, for example. To state that polio cases increased after the vaccines were developed is simply a lie.
 
2010-11-02 10:39:43 AM  
ABCDEFQ: The greatest factor in eliminating polio was when they changed the diagnosis from polio to asceptic meningitis. When 99% of the cases suddenly become a different disease, the prevalence and mortality amazingly decrease at an extraordinary rate.

Link (new window)

The polio vaccine increased the number of 'poliomyelitis' cases. The truth hurts.

/but please give me your jenny mccarthy retorts. Because those are full of meaningful data that truly prove a point.


Ah yes. Scheibner. I like to get all my health information from palaeontology Phds with questionable ethics.
 
2010-11-02 10:42:05 AM  
ALS is just a mutated form of Polio. The vaccine eradicated nothing.
 
2010-11-02 10:43:49 AM  
I noticed Chad was on the list but not Jeremy.
 
2010-11-02 10:45:15 AM  
ABCDEFQ: The greatest factor in eliminating polio was when they changed the diagnosis from polio to asceptic meningitis. When 99% of the cases suddenly become a different disease, the prevalence and mortality amazingly decrease at an extraordinary rate.

Link (new window)

The polio vaccine increased the number of 'poliomyelitis' cases. The truth hurts.

/but please give me your jenny mccarthy retorts. Because those are full of meaningful data that truly prove a point.


because meningitis is a myth and a proven vaccine combined with a massive vaccination program had no effect on the incidence of a disease

1/10
 
2010-11-02 10:46:57 AM  
Uh oh, Polio?
 
2010-11-02 10:48:06 AM  
DubyaHater: ALS is just a mutated form of Polio. The vaccine eradicated nothing.

Yes it did. It eradicated Polio.

Are you saying that since we have diseases now that came from earlier disease, there is no benefit from curing earlier forms of disease?
 
2010-11-02 10:49:00 AM  
DubyaHater: ALS is just a mutated form of Polio. The vaccine eradicated nothing.

Except that ALS isn't caused by a virus
 
2010-11-02 10:50:05 AM  
Hallelujah! I have prayed Polio away. Now gawd wants you to send me money lest he will bring it back!

t1.gstatic.com
 
2010-11-02 10:50:57 AM  
ABCDEFQ: The greatest factor in eliminating polio was when they changed the diagnosis from polio to asceptic meningitis. When 99% of the cases suddenly become a different disease, the prevalence and mortality amazingly decrease at an extraordinary rate.

Link (new window)

The polio vaccine increased the number of 'poliomyelitis' cases. The truth hurts.

/but please give me your jenny mccarthy retorts. Because those are full of meaningful data that truly prove a point.


Seriously Whale.to? That website is a hive of scum and villainy, one of the centers of anti-vaxx lies and bullshiat.

Let's just start with this insane bit that the diagnosis of asceptic meningitis somehow is what caused the reduction in polio cases. Well that one is simple Asceptic Meningitis is a sub-diagnosis of polio, it still counts as a case of polio, it just isn't the same thing as paralytic polio.

Basically infection with the polio virus can result in either abortive polio (you get a fever and recover within 72 hours), Asceptic Meningitis that doesn't progress to paralysis, and paralytic polio. Asceptic meningitis cases where polio virus is detected is still a polio case (Asceptic meningitis can also be caused by non-polio enteroviruses).
 
2010-11-02 10:51:01 AM  
FTA:

"Islamic leaders in northern Nigeria organized a boycott of polio vaccinations in 2003, claiming that the vaccines were a Western plot to infect Muslims and make them infertile. Polio cases soon skyrocketed and spilled over to other African countries."

www.zuguide.com

"I remember when I was with Special Forces... seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate some children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there, and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried, I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out; I didn't know what I wanted to do! And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it... I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought, my God... the genius of that! The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand that these were not monsters, these were men... trained cadres."

/pic hot like the jungle
 
2010-11-02 10:51:47 AM  
Hopefully we can eradicate Pelosi today.
 
2010-11-02 10:51:47 AM  
Harry Freakstorm: Hallelujah! I have prayed Polio away. Now gawd wants you to send me money lest he will bring it back!

Oh no he brought it back! Quick, more money!
 
2010-11-02 10:53:03 AM  
Satan_Himself:
What is her excuse for this shiat anyway?


By now it ought to be that she's too ashamed to back down and admit it but the truth is probably that she's too busy raking in donations to even stop and think.
 
2010-11-02 10:54:50 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: Polio is a liberal myth. Smart republicans will resist any attempt to "immunize" their children. All you need is a bible.

Granted, I don't too many right-wingers, but every single person I know who believes that vaccines cause autism is a leftist. You know, the whole corporate plot to hide their toxins and keep us all sick and dying so they can make billions, blah blah blah...

Derp knows no political boundaries. There is a vaccine and cure for it, but it's a bit of a catch-22... the people who need it most are the least likely to take it.
 
2010-11-02 10:55:34 AM  
Satan_Himself: rufus-t-firefly: Jenny McCarthy is not amused.

What is her excuse for this shiat anyway? Kids are better off dead as long as they're not autistic?


The kids may not be, but everybody else is. Autistic farkers are annoying.
 
2010-11-02 10:57:23 AM  
Harvey Manfrenjensenjen: HotWingConspiracy: Polio is a liberal myth. Smart republicans will resist any attempt to "immunize" their children. All you need is a bible.

Granted, I don't too many right-wingers, but every single person I know who believes that vaccines cause autism is a leftist. You know, the whole corporate plot to hide their toxins and keep us all sick and dying so they can make billions, blah blah blah...

Derp knows no political boundaries. There is a vaccine and cure for it, but it's a bit of a catch-22... the people who need it most are the least likely to take it.


Likewise. Theoretically educated folks, as well. Plenty of women's studies, liberal arts, etc. majors have no clue about evidence-based medicine.
 
2010-11-02 10:57:47 AM  
I got to vote against a STUPID proposal on my town's ballot today to force health care providers to distribute a scare pamphlet about mercury in vaccinations.
 
2010-11-02 11:01:05 AM  
Niger, you say?

avatarfarm.com
 
2010-11-02 11:01:41 AM  
ABCDEFQ: The greatest factor in eliminating polio was when they changed the diagnosis from polio to asceptic meningitis. When 99% of the cases suddenly become a different disease, the prevalence and mortality amazingly decrease at an extraordinary rate.

Link (new window)

The polio vaccine increased the number of 'poliomyelitis' cases. The truth hurts.

/but please give me your jenny mccarthy retorts. Because those are full of meaningful data that truly prove a point.


Ther are approx. 600 cases of asceptic meningitis documented per year compared to multiple hundreds of thousands of cases of polio per year pre-vaccine.

In other words, shut the fark up.
 
2010-11-02 11:08:29 AM  
Science IT WORKS! Eventually.
 
2010-11-02 11:13:47 AM  
My dad had polio as a child, recovered fairly well. He is starting to have a tough time of it now, seems that as the body ages it really farks with post-polio people.

Hard to find any doctors who have ever seen a polio case, let alone treated one.
 
2010-11-02 11:24:14 AM  
Awesome. Hope it goes completely extinct by the time I have kids.

Now if only we could bring back DDT to start doing the same to malaria...
 
2010-11-02 11:26:16 AM  
Oh Hi there Mr. Terrorist, how is your polio doing?

Oh wait, you don't have polio? Solely because of the West, which values education, science and learning (don't contradict me on this even though you can. RELATIVELY I'm right).

MMMMMMMMMAAAAYBE, if we didn't cure these diseases, if smallpox and polio were still rampant in these craphole countries, we wouldn't have to deal with terrorism, because they'd all be dead, crippled, or too busy trying to deal with the other sick members of their family. International terror attacks really seem like a luxury only made possible by the West's efforts to make the world a better place. Maybe we should stop. Sure, we made the worlda better place for them, but not so much for us.
 
2010-11-02 11:33:45 AM  
Helena Handbasket:
It was kind of an interesting (but very cool) feeling, to know that we've completely wiped it out, to the extent that even my kids weren't vaccinated against it.



Well wiped out except the official sample at the CDC and in Russia.
Oh, and whatever weaponized stocks the Soviets manufactured and stored...somewhere. Or passed on to their friends.

/sleep tight
//Demon in the Freezer is a scary book
 
2010-11-02 11:37:51 AM  
Delay: California? No, the anti-vaxers seem to want their kids to catch whooping cough, not polio. Apparently the prospect of an iron lung in the living room lets them swallow some polio vaccine.

Farkers do not understand that the anti-vaccer's point of view is more complex than Autism.

Many fall in the category of not so many at one time. They are questioning the schedule. A schedule that can be changed in times of vaccine shortages and the CDC itself says it is ok to do it this way.

Some anti-vaccer's only question the wisdom of some vaccines like chicken pox and rotavirus. Rotavirus have been plagued with recalls since at least 1995.
 
2010-11-02 11:38:22 AM  
YixilTesiphon: Awesome. Hope it goes completely extinct by the time I have kids.

Now if only we could bring back DDT to start doing the same to malaria...


The latest skeptoid focuses on DDT, worth reading. My gut feeling is that we should do our best to prevent harm to birds, but we should do everything we can to kill off malaria.

Malaria was rampant in parts of the US until DDT. It just doesn't seem fair to withhold it from Africans, for example. If I was African, I'd be like "fark you, eagles, we're dying here."
 
2010-11-02 11:43:51 AM  
HotWingConspiracy: Polio is a liberal myth. Smart republicans will resist any attempt to "immunize" their children. All you need is a bible.

Sorry, it is the organic food loving, homeopathy loving, alternative lefty hippies who rail about "big pharma" that don't get their kids vaccinated.

The religious right might be stupid for believing in creationism, but at least creationism doesn't make their kids dead.
 
2010-11-02 11:48:06 AM  
here4few: Many fall in the category of not so many at one time. They are questioning the schedule. A schedule that can be changed in times of vaccine shortages and the CDC itself says it is ok to do it this way.

The schedule argument is just the one evolution of the anti-vax argument. Children (everyone, actually) are exposed to multiple antigens all the goddamn time. Moreover, there's no freaking evidence for it in healthy children.

And you WILL hear from anti-vaxxers that multiple vaccinations will cause autism, so trying to divorce the two arguments is a tad disingenuous.

Some anti-vaccer's only question the wisdom of some vaccines like chicken pox and rotavirus. Rotavirus have been plagued with recalls since at least 1995.

True, in part, but still mostly misinformation propagated by the anti-vaxxers. The first vaccine, Wyeth's RotaShield, was voluntarily withdrawn by Wyeth when their tests showed a likely increased risk of intussusception, not recalled in the strictest sense.

This year, the FDA did recall a batch of GSK's Rotarix, which had some genetic material contamination. It was not linked to any ill effects and it was more of an err on the side of caution. RotaTeq, meanwhile, is still going strong and could prevent hundreds of thousands of deaths from gastroenteritis each year.
 
2010-11-02 11:50:18 AM  
Retarded Rabid Elk: HotWingConspiracy: Polio is a liberal myth. Smart republicans will resist any attempt to "immunize" their children. All you need is a bible.

Sorry, it is the organic food loving, homeopathy loving, alternative lefty hippies who rail about "big pharma" that don't get their kids vaccinated.

The religious right might be stupid for believing in creationism, but at least creationism doesn't make their kids dead.


THIS.
 
2010-11-02 11:56:03 AM  
ABCDEFQ: The greatest factor in eliminating polio was when they changed the diagnosis from polio to asceptic meningitis. When 99% of the cases suddenly become a different disease, the prevalence and mortality amazingly decrease at an extraordinary rate.

Just one little problem:
What you are saying is entirely and utterly false. Polio has not been renamed asceptic meningitis. Antivaxer retards just made that up.
 
2010-11-02 12:00:06 PM  
atomsmoosher: YixilTesiphon: Awesome. Hope it goes completely extinct by the time I have kids.

Now if only we could bring back DDT to start doing the same to malaria...

The latest skeptoid focuses on DDT, worth reading. My gut feeling is that we should do our best to prevent harm to birds, but we should do everything we can to kill off malaria.

Malaria was rampant in parts of the US until DDT. It just doesn't seem fair to withhold it from Africans, for example. If I was African, I'd be like "fark you, eagles, we're dying here."


Um, DDT is still allowed in developing countries for vector control (read: Killing mosquitos that might have malaria. That is, in fact, explicitly written into the treaty banning it. It's banned for agrigcultural use in those countries, but in some ways that might be a GOOD thing, as it would make it take longer for resistant strains to crop up.
/Resistant strains have already cropped up.

I mean, it's not like the US went "IF ANYONE USES MALARIA WE WILL NUKE YOU."
 
2010-11-02 12:00:41 PM  
If anyone uses DDT, not Malaria. I fail.
 
2010-11-02 12:01:28 PM  
Thank you, Rotarians. And Bill & Melinda Gates.
 
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