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Jon Stewart to Reddit: you don't matter 
Posted by Drew at 2010-11-01 2:41:26 PM, edited 2010-11-01 4:13:48 PM (5884 comments) | Permalink
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Backstory: Reddit has been pushing support for the Stewart/Colbert rally since its inception, possibly since before its inception.



At the Rally For Sanity press conference on Saturday, Alexis Ohanian, co-founder of Reddit, asked Stewart and Colbert a question: what role did the Internet play in convincing you to hold this rally? The response: "it didn't hurt."

Question at around 1:40
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-and-stephen-colbert-hold-post-rally-to- re store-sanity-press-conference/

Did you hear that Reddit? All that work you put into getting the word out, organizing meetups, and convincing people to go "didn't hurt". All that initial support in getting the ball rolling on this rally a few months back was great, but it wasn't a factor. Thanks for your meaningless and futile support that Comedy Central really didn't need at the end of the day to get a surprise crowd of 250,000 people to the rally. Did you hear that Internet? You had no role in this either, it was all Comedy Central all the way.

Colbert doesn't get a pass on this either, his "thanks Reddit for raising half a million dollars for our charity but it didn't affect attendence one way or the other" comment is a backhanded compliment at best.

And to say this all live, in a press conference, to the co-founder of a community of millions that did everything in its power to get the word out past its own readers to the greater internet, that is flat out disrespectful and wrong. Alexis is a friend of mine, and he's a super nice guy. He would never dream of saying this to Jon Stewart but I will: you owe Alexis an apology and you owe Reddit an apology. I'll stop short at saying you owe The Internet an apology because honestly I think The Internet owes us all an apology for a number of things, Justin Bieber notwithstanding.

In the clip you'll notice Stewart uses part of his answer to Alexis' question to make the point that Comedy Central had the idea for this rally "months" before Reddit did. Which is really odd considering Alexis didn't ask or imply that Reddit gave Comedy Central the idea for the rally in the first place. Sounds like someone feels a litle guilty about something. Who thought of it first doesn't matter, it is impossible to deny that Reddit's actions encouraged Comedy Central to actually pull the trigger. Except Stewart did, right to Alexis Ohanian's face, in a live press conference.

Why am I so bent about this? First and foremost, because a friend of mine got smacked down on live TV by a guy he helped, and I can't stand by and do nothing about it without at least saying something. But also because Daily Show writers have been doing essentially the same thing to me, every single day for the past 10 years. They use Fark every day to source material, and haven't mentioned Fark on air even one single time. It's the same attitude toward Reddit: "sure doesn't hurt, but not a significant contribution." Thanks to Fark, your writers don't have to go far to fill your shows up with material for you to use. Every writer I've met thanks me vociferously for Fark and tells me how much easier it makes their jobs. Sure that's not worth a daily mention, but I would think at least one in the last 10 years. It has yet to happen. I've learned to live with it, but Alexis is my friend and he does not deserve this kind of treatment. Especially considering the effort Reddit put into promoting the rally.

I'm not implying they owe Reddit or Fark any credit for the success of the Rally, that's definitely not the case. Comedy Central did the bulk of the work, that can't be disputed. This is about common courtesy. If someone does you a favor, a thank you is a kind and appropriate response. In Reddit's case, "it doesn't hurt" is a slap in the face. It discounts all the effort they went through - and they went through a lot. And they weren't the only ones, several other large web communities pitched in as well.

Here's my proposal: Jon Stewart should apologize for discounting the impact that Reddit and other Internet communities had on this rally, or next time The Internet should remember Comedy Central thinks they don't count and should show them what happens when "The Internet" actively works to convince people to not attend. Because if Reddit had put similar effort into convincing people not to attend, the crowd size would have been far smaller than anticipated. And if you don't believe me, let's see how it goes next time if Stewart makes the wrong decision.

PS: pretty sure this post will guarantee that I and/or Fark never get a mention on The Daily Show but that wasn't happening anyhow.
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2010-11-01 06:06:19 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: THIS IS FOR THE GREATER GOOD

THE GREATER GOOD


Good show, old chap.
 
2010-11-01 06:06:19 PM
@rhiannon

It takes a lot of energy to shout down the loudest of folks, especially when they are wrong. If I have succeeded, I will wear that badge with honor.

@Poppa Boner

At no point did I express disgust for anything other than your assumption on my sexual personality.
 
2010-11-01 06:06:27 PM
Drew: Yeah just as soon as I posted the article and way sooner than any of them would have had time to read it

There's been plenty of time to read it now, and people are still on you for it at around the same ratio as the start of the thread. Maybe even harder on you after they found out how you gave Fox News ammo and that, in addition, not even Reddit gives a damn.
 
2010-11-01 06:06:27 PM
medius: Tommy Moo: hamfisted

you know who else liked fisting hams?


No but now I kinda want to know.
 
2010-11-01 06:06:27 PM
LOLCLIENTS
 
2010-11-01 06:06:28 PM
medius: Tommy Moo: hamfisted

you know who else liked fisting hams?


Hammy McFister, the Scourge of Mr. O'Flanigan's Hog Farm?
 
2010-11-01 06:06:33 PM
The good part of this thread is all the pics of the foxy babes.
Otherwise, call Drew a whaaaaaambulance.

The video clip was okay. I think somebody was expecting a ticker tape parade instead of the recognition that came from mainly Colbert. You should know by now that Jon Stewart never gets carried away when doing live interviews. He's always so low key.
 
2010-11-01 06:06:42 PM
Crap now I have to google reddit and see wtf it is.
 
2010-11-01 06:06:52 PM
Drew: Yeah except I'm fireproof.

Tell you what... douse yourself in something flammable and I'll see if I can find a liter.
 
2010-11-01 06:06:53 PM
Um, I kind of think they owe a bigger apology for implying that anti-war protesters are "insane" people with too much time on their hands. But that's just me. Still a big fan of both of them. Heck, my cat's name is Colbert. And he's not named after Claudette, star of It Happened One Night.
 
2010-11-01 06:06:56 PM
I've never heard of "Reddit."

I also want some love for my one submission greenlit. You remember it, don't you? Very funny headline involving a naked guy, a Waffle House, and a taser. You may have laughed for days. It was a few years ago. You remember now, right? Where's my acknowledgment?

(Get over it, Drew. We are all just a bunch of idea recyclers. Just be glad you can pay the light bill.)
 
2010-11-01 06:06:57 PM
thurstonxhowell: Awww, those poor little darlings. Those poor, poor little darlings.

Jesus, I can't muster the amount of sarcasm required to respond to this. Congratu-farking-lations.


i789.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-01 06:06:58 PM
1) Read blog.

2) Watch video.

3) Enjoy benefits of reading comprehension and rational thought.

Conclusion: Drew was already butthurt about (fill in this blank with perceived slight) and latched on WAAAAAY too quickly to this "insult" on behalf of his "friend".

You farked up Drew. Time to man up and apologize for getting it wrong.
 
2010-11-01 06:06:59 PM
i561.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-01 06:07:04 PM
Drew: gspazg: Drew: ju66l3r: Seriously, buddy? I went to the rally and it wasn't because of anything I read on Fark or Reddit. I went for myself and because I believed in the reason that Comedy Central felt it was necessary to satirize the growing balkanization of our political climate. I got the feeling from the people I met in DC on Saturday that I wasn't the only one who came for that one reason alone and not due to any Reddit nor Fark impetus.

I'm glad my subscription is non-recurring. It saves me the hassle of having to quit it.

Fark you, Drew. Fark you, indeed.

Dude if you quit over this you weren't going to last more than a week tops on TotalFark anyhow

YOU STILL HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE TITTIES.

Sorry man I can barely keep up here. There will be time for boobies later


I actually don't have any idea what's going on and I'm pretty sure no one else does either. I figured titties were a good topic.

Can you call too-old a douchebag? I think he feels left out.
 
2010-11-01 06:07:16 PM
Bob_Laublaw: CraicBaby: What if I don't have one?

Take CC's balls out of your purse and take a pic of them.


What if I can't find my purse?
 
2010-11-01 06:07:19 PM
Drew now whining to Fox News?
Geesh.
 
2010-11-01 06:07:36 PM
ThisNameSux: Drew: Yeah except I'm fireproof. BRING IT biatchES

Taunting the internet is always a great idea.


It always makes my day.
 
2010-11-01 06:07:37 PM
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-01 06:07:38 PM
ThreeEdgedSword: i789.photobucket.com

Ohhhhhhhh... that big-chinned guy from Castleton.

:-/

FriarReb98: Good show, old chap.

Indubitably!


Treygreen13: How dare you deface a Hot Fuzz quote with a font of such poor quality?

:-/

Whimsically, THAT'S how.
 
2010-11-01 06:07:38 PM
HI DREW!!
 
2010-11-01 06:07:47 PM
dude just say you were wrong and close the damn thread.
 
2010-11-01 06:07:51 PM
Drew: Nah I doubt it election's tomorrow, it's gonna be real quiet wednesday

There will be, at least, two days worth of "this is what the election really means" threads.

Plus, controversy threads concerning recounts and voter fraud.
 
2010-11-01 06:07:56 PM
Kublai Khan: Flying Undead Sheep: I have read the name "Drew" so many times that it has completely lost all meaning, and now sounds like a random assortment of syllables.

Just how many syllables are you breaking "Drew" into there?


SEE I CAN'T EVEN COUNT SYLLABLES ANYMORE!

ARGH
 
2010-11-01 06:07:59 PM
CraicBaby: Poppa Boner: HEY EVERYBODY!!! LET'S ALL SEND DREW PICS OF OUR CAWKS!!!

What if I don't have one?


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2010-11-01 06:08:07 PM
I can't believe everyone is this butthurt over a website owner expressing his (valid) opinion on his own website.

*OUTRAGEEEEEEEEE*
 
2010-11-01 06:08:12 PM
mtb9000: Joliet_Jake: When I was in high school, my latin/philosophy teacher would share bizarre news stories with the class on Fridays before we took an exam.

Drew, I think you owe Mr. Burr an apology for stealing his idea and not giving him credit.

Holy shiat, I took philosophy, latin, and AP European history from Mr. Burr. Poor guy kicked the bucket earlier this year. One of my favorite people in the world. Were you in his class at BHS?


Yes.
 
2010-11-01 06:08:24 PM
JON STEWART SENT ME PICTURES OF JORIES CRUSTY SNATCH
 
2010-11-01 06:08:29 PM
Is Drew one of the "Enemies" that President Obama warned us about?
Drew being quoted on Fox News in this instance is pure comedy farking gold!
 
2010-11-01 06:08:33 PM
BumpyMcNipples: Drew: Polonius_In_Drag: Can you relate Drew?

Yeah except I'm fireproof. BRING IT biatchES

Not that it needs to be asked... but just how much have you had to drink today?

/Keep going! This is AWESOME!


Nothing yet, got soccer at 1030 tho. I'm not gonna log back in after that, I gotta get up at 7am and I'm pretty sure I'll see the sun come up if I do get back on at 2am
 
2010-11-01 06:08:36 PM
Drew: Hope you get a job soon that helps make spending $5 less of an enormous decision

i294.photobucket.com

No, no, dig up, stupid!
 
2010-11-01 06:08:36 PM
pickledick: dude just say you were wrong and close the damn thread.

Where's the fun in that? I am fascinated by the outpouring of unfettered douchbaggery in here.
 
2010-11-01 06:08:47 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: :-/

Whimsically, THAT'S how.


If only we could find some way to express The Final Countdown in Wingdings.
 
2010-11-01 06:08:54 PM
Now he cares about trolls.
 
2010-11-01 06:08:54 PM
Tachikoma: It always makes my day.

Go post your personal info on /b
 
2010-11-01 06:09:04 PM
Tommy Moo: F*CK YOU, DREW, YOU SANCTIMONIOUS HYPOCRITE.

You don't write a goddamn thing on this website! You create nothing! You do no work! A bunch of thankless volunteers have made you rich. HOW DARE YOU ASK ANY TV WRITER TO GIVE YOU "CREDIT" FOR THEIR MATERIAL WHEN YOU WON'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS WE, THE USERS, WHO CREATE ALL OF THE MATERIAL ON THIS SITE?

Have you ever once written an actual headline, you pompous, butthurt asshole? Jon Stewart has done more for media integrity than you ever will. He is a hero of transparency. You are a cockbag who stumbled into wealth by taking advantage of a bunch of people you can't even be bothered to send a card to at the holidays.

You owe every admin and moderator on this site $10,000 in US cash, and you owe every user an apology after that hamfisted rant.


img183.imageshack.us
 
2010-11-01 06:09:08 PM
Drew: Handsome B. Wonderful: Drew: No I always expect all the whiners to show up and gripe, that's pretty much par for the course.

The whining started at the very top of the page.

Yeah just as soon as I posted the article and way sooner than any of them would have had time to read it


Posted by Drew at 2010-11-01 2:41:26 PM

Ringtailed79 2010-11-01 02:49:30 PM

You'll get over it.

>implying I can't read 5 paragraphs in 8 minutes
 
2010-11-01 06:09:23 PM
So to recap (draws breath)
A left wing web site (or as bipartisan as the tea party) front pages a rant by it's owner about a comment (or lack there of) from a fellow left wing show host (whose show they regularly front paged) whilst apparently exclusively commenting to a right wing news organisation that was previously heavily parodied by both site & show, just before an election... oh did I mention said web site owner wrote a book about non-news that often sited aforementioned right wing news organisation... And the event this alleged quarrel is about, was focused (in part) on news organisations pushing non-news

... I'm getting this right?

/I think Fox would be wise to back away slowly
//Am I breaking the 4th wall?
 
2010-11-01 06:09:26 PM
Most people came for the whores, stayed for the rally.
 
2010-11-01 06:09:35 PM
Poppa Boner: CraicBaby: Poppa Boner: HEY EVERYBODY!!! LET'S ALL SEND DREW PICS OF OUR CAWKS!!!

What if I don't have one?

I'll send mine twice just for you.

Weaver95: Poppa Boner: HEY EVERYBODY!!! LET'S ALL SEND DREW PICS OF OUR CAWKS!!!

you go first.

enjoy your vacation!

Shut Weaver you friggen Nazi.


in fact, you should go though the fark.com profile pages, find every moderator you can, and send them pictures of your genitals. Then look for farkettes that strike your fancy, and send them pictures as well.

go on. Do it.

for great justice.
for the children.
do it.
now.
 
2010-11-01 06:09:52 PM
Now I remember why I let my non recurring TF expire...

1) What's a reddit?
2) Jeebus...butthurt? really?
3) blah blah blah bastion of liberal douchebags blah blah blah...
4) Where's the funny?
5) I had to pick this month to start lurking? (Unemployment id getting boring)
 
2010-11-01 06:09:59 PM
R.A.Danny: pickledick: dude just say you were wrong and close the damn thread.

Where's the fun in that? I am fascinated by the outpouring of unfettered douchbaggery in here.


Ditto.

... though to be fair, those sandwiches sounded pretty good.
 
2010-11-01 06:10:11 PM
AnubisMan: Dan the Schman: Awww, look at all the liters white-knighting Drew hoping to get sponsored. And like all butthurt crybabies, Drew avoids all the posts pointing out in the transcript that he is completely off base in his whiny rant.

He does that?

Back off you farking animals, back off I say!


He gives out ponies too. True story.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener:
It's either real or a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream.

Either/or.


I'm going with option c.
 
2010-11-01 06:10:21 PM
I think it's funny that the term troll has devolved from intentionally pissing people off, to a term you can use on people who are making you look like an idiot, to a wild card to get you out of doing something incredibly idiotic.
There's even a cartoon explaining it to you people with no attention spans and yet you still don't get it.
Knee-jerk reaction with no collaboration to the person he tried to defend, he farked up he knows it. Please don't belittle the few smart people on your site by trying to cover it up with "Haha guys I was trolling" even though it seems to be incredibly effective overall.
BTW big fan of your site but that's a pretty epic fark up. You should post a retraction sooner rather than later, even though I'm sure Fox News and other right wing outlets are already running wild with this.
 
2010-11-01 06:10:38 PM
BumpInTheNight: Drew: kapaso: Drew: queezyweezel: Something tells me Drew did not expect this thread to head in this direction....wowza.

No I always expect all the whiners to show up and gripe, that's pretty much par for the course.

You started it

Touche

Seriously tho, right now it says 17k+ clicks outbound, divide that by the number of negative comments and you have
Plus if I'm wrong, I'll post a hey I was a dumbass blog on Fark tomorrow and I would do that even if everyone agreed with me. I'd rather be right than win

In short, most people are ambivalent about most things

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't each time one of us still lurking in the thread does a refresh it counts as a click too? I've probably added about 30-40 alone yet only voiced my distaste towards the blog post about 2-3 times (I know I know, I gotta pull up my boot straps here) and I imagine most of the rest of us still in here have as well. Then you have all the pure lurkers who don't even have accounts and even if they wanted to weigh in on this post they couldn't for 24 hours after creating an account.

Nah I'd go by the thread's contents not the click count on this one, and yah you're definitely alienating a lot of us here. The only ones defending the post seem to be either the TFD lifers or their troll-alts.


There's gonna be a huge number of new accounts created in the next 24 hours, and just about all of them will be created by angry Fox News readers who'd never heard of Fark before they saw the link to this thread Drew wangled some free advertising on the Fox website.

The politics tab is gonna go from Full Retard to Ludicrous Retard.

INCOMMMIIIINNNNGGGG!!!!!!
 
2010-11-01 06:10:49 PM
We need a....
kinder......
gentler......
FARK.
 
2010-11-01 06:10:57 PM
Earguy

Didn't that chick retire already?
 
2010-11-01 06:11:01 PM
homeschooled: I can't believe everyone is this butthurt over a website owner expressing his (valid) opinion on his own website.

*OUTRAGEEEEEEEEE*


have you not been paying any attention to fark.com at all? it's been like this for three years now.
 
2010-11-01 06:11:36 PM
i197.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-01 06:11:37 PM
FelineMommy27:
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener:
It's either real or a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream.

Either/or.

I'm going with option c.


Going deeper! Aye Captain!
 
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