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Jon Stewart to Reddit: you don't matter 
Posted by Drew at 2010-11-01 2:41:26 PM, edited 2010-11-01 4:13:48 PM (5884 comments) | Permalink
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Backstory: Reddit has been pushing support for the Stewart/Colbert rally since its inception, possibly since before its inception.



At the Rally For Sanity press conference on Saturday, Alexis Ohanian, co-founder of Reddit, asked Stewart and Colbert a question: what role did the Internet play in convincing you to hold this rally? The response: "it didn't hurt."

Question at around 1:40
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-and-stephen-colbert-hold-post-rally-to- re store-sanity-press-conference/

Did you hear that Reddit? All that work you put into getting the word out, organizing meetups, and convincing people to go "didn't hurt". All that initial support in getting the ball rolling on this rally a few months back was great, but it wasn't a factor. Thanks for your meaningless and futile support that Comedy Central really didn't need at the end of the day to get a surprise crowd of 250,000 people to the rally. Did you hear that Internet? You had no role in this either, it was all Comedy Central all the way.

Colbert doesn't get a pass on this either, his "thanks Reddit for raising half a million dollars for our charity but it didn't affect attendence one way or the other" comment is a backhanded compliment at best.

And to say this all live, in a press conference, to the co-founder of a community of millions that did everything in its power to get the word out past its own readers to the greater internet, that is flat out disrespectful and wrong. Alexis is a friend of mine, and he's a super nice guy. He would never dream of saying this to Jon Stewart but I will: you owe Alexis an apology and you owe Reddit an apology. I'll stop short at saying you owe The Internet an apology because honestly I think The Internet owes us all an apology for a number of things, Justin Bieber notwithstanding.

In the clip you'll notice Stewart uses part of his answer to Alexis' question to make the point that Comedy Central had the idea for this rally "months" before Reddit did. Which is really odd considering Alexis didn't ask or imply that Reddit gave Comedy Central the idea for the rally in the first place. Sounds like someone feels a litle guilty about something. Who thought of it first doesn't matter, it is impossible to deny that Reddit's actions encouraged Comedy Central to actually pull the trigger. Except Stewart did, right to Alexis Ohanian's face, in a live press conference.

Why am I so bent about this? First and foremost, because a friend of mine got smacked down on live TV by a guy he helped, and I can't stand by and do nothing about it without at least saying something. But also because Daily Show writers have been doing essentially the same thing to me, every single day for the past 10 years. They use Fark every day to source material, and haven't mentioned Fark on air even one single time. It's the same attitude toward Reddit: "sure doesn't hurt, but not a significant contribution." Thanks to Fark, your writers don't have to go far to fill your shows up with material for you to use. Every writer I've met thanks me vociferously for Fark and tells me how much easier it makes their jobs. Sure that's not worth a daily mention, but I would think at least one in the last 10 years. It has yet to happen. I've learned to live with it, but Alexis is my friend and he does not deserve this kind of treatment. Especially considering the effort Reddit put into promoting the rally.

I'm not implying they owe Reddit or Fark any credit for the success of the Rally, that's definitely not the case. Comedy Central did the bulk of the work, that can't be disputed. This is about common courtesy. If someone does you a favor, a thank you is a kind and appropriate response. In Reddit's case, "it doesn't hurt" is a slap in the face. It discounts all the effort they went through - and they went through a lot. And they weren't the only ones, several other large web communities pitched in as well.

Here's my proposal: Jon Stewart should apologize for discounting the impact that Reddit and other Internet communities had on this rally, or next time The Internet should remember Comedy Central thinks they don't count and should show them what happens when "The Internet" actively works to convince people to not attend. Because if Reddit had put similar effort into convincing people not to attend, the crowd size would have been far smaller than anticipated. And if you don't believe me, let's see how it goes next time if Stewart makes the wrong decision.

PS: pretty sure this post will guarantee that I and/or Fark never get a mention on The Daily Show but that wasn't happening anyhow.
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2010-11-01 05:59:58 PM
I'd like to write something so inflammatory that Drew can't possibly ignore it - it's been one of my lifes goals for, well, at least the last five minutes or so, to get Drew to acknowledge me. Not as his illegitimate son mind you (there'll be plenty of time yet for that), just something that shows me he notices me. Here goes:

I like Nickleback


/If this works, I can start on my stalking plans.
//I already have the perfect jar for what's left of his hair.
 
2010-11-01 06:00:08 PM
Pontius Pilates Class: @Poppa Boner

I was wondering when you would show up and post an ill-contrived falsehood about my sexuality while simultaneously exposing far too much of your own desire.


Watchoo got against teh gays eh Bub? You some kinda homophobe? We libral Farkers don't take to kindly to your type around here.

And if desiring to rape your sweet pink little stinkhole is wrong I don't wanna be right.

Bob_Laublaw: Unf*ckingbelievable. Got a business opportunity in Amsterdam. Srsly. Just need 1.2 Million Euros...... how's your savings these days?

Tree-Fitty.
 
2010-11-01 06:00:14 PM
Polonius_In_Drag: You are calling someone who financially supports your website a douchebag? Really?

You're criticizing THE MAN behind Fark.com while posting on Fark.com? Really?

/yes. really. to both of you.
 
2010-11-01 06:00:32 PM
gspazg: Drew: ju66l3r: Seriously, buddy? I went to the rally and it wasn't because of anything I read on Fark or Reddit. I went for myself and because I believed in the reason that Comedy Central felt it was necessary to satirize the growing balkanization of our political climate. I got the feeling from the people I met in DC on Saturday that I wasn't the only one who came for that one reason alone and not due to any Reddit nor Fark impetus.

I'm glad my subscription is non-recurring. It saves me the hassle of having to quit it.

Fark you, Drew. Fark you, indeed.

Dude if you quit over this you weren't going to last more than a week tops on TotalFark anyhow

YOU STILL HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE TITTIES.


Sorry man I can barely keep up here. There will be time for boobies later
 
2010-11-01 06:00:33 PM
Cytokine Storm: Zotfripper: I'd pay $5 to see how this moron-a-thon turns out....

Everyone loses.


Naah. It's the Special Olympics. Everybody wins!

/ ...but yes, we're all still retarded.
 
2010-11-01 06:00:33 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: leftyblonde: i197.photobucket.com

Maybe so, but my chin is... well... not THAT strong.

:-/


i789.photobucket.com

If Chin's could kill
 
2010-11-01 06:00:36 PM
Drew: You're supposed to write in all caps when you say that

I AM GOOD AT THIS GAME CAN WE GET OUR PONIES YET
 
2010-11-01 06:00:45 PM
BumpInTheNight: Nah I'd go by the thread's contents not the click count on this one, and yah you're definitely alienating a lot of us here. The only ones defending the post seem to be either the TFD lifers or their troll-alts.

It is clicks and not substance that drive website content. Welcome to the internet.
 
2010-11-01 06:00:53 PM
What's Reddit?
 
2010-11-01 06:00:53 PM
I for one agree with Drew. The rest of you wouldn't have lasted a day in communist Soviet. You never talk crap about your leader, then you get to work in the salt mines, or get sentenced to only comment in the fark forum. You know what goes on in the fark forum? Nothing! Nothing at all. It's even less actionfilled than the movie Fearless! So lets all rally together in what really unites us here on fark, putting captions on pictures of cats. I think i've made my point very clear here.
 
2010-11-01 06:01:01 PM
JON STEWART ONCE POSTED THE FOLLOWING:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw8sNoodIDk
 
2010-11-01 06:01:07 PM
R.A.Danny: homeschooled: Crude: Because you sure as hell don't contribute anything close to being funny on this site, Drew.

I beg to differ. Also, you're a douche bag.

I like this one better (new window)


lolz. I haven't seen that on yet. Nice.
 
2010-11-01 06:01:09 PM
Drew: Hope you get a job soon that helps make spending $5 less of an enormous decision

I think you just totally lost out on a page click next time Weird Al's parents die.
 
2010-11-01 06:01:26 PM
How about a sampling of what's being posted on reddit.

I've been on Fark for over 8 years and this is my first visit to redditt. Drew needs to take a look in the mirror and re-read his own book. I refer him to page 135 "The Out-of-Context Celebrity Quote". I'm not even sure if watched the video. Colbert gave high praise to reddit right after the interviewer introduced himself. Stewart was obviously joking when he said "it didn't hurt". The trolling headline "you don't matter" is way off base.

Maybe Drew is having a bad day, or typed that up after a few too many Heineken, but for now, my fark.com bookmark is getting deleted.

If any apology is owed, it's from Drew Curtis to Jon Stewart.

Thanks reddit for being extremely reasonable.
 
2010-11-01 06:01:35 PM
he never says anything to me ever. :-/
 
2010-11-01 06:01:37 PM
Starryeyes: I AM GOOD AT THIS GAME CAN WE GET OUR PONIES YET

PONIES FOR ALL,BUTTHURT FOR SOME.
 
2010-11-01 06:01:40 PM
bulldg4life: I believe it is time to log in as the Moderator and defend your actions, Drew.

That's what other trolls would do.


I don't even know what the password is for that. Seriously
 
2010-11-01 06:01:47 PM
Drew: Polonius_In_Drag: Drew: Anti_illuminati: So when is Drew going to come back and apologize?

WE DESERVE APOLOGIES!!1!

IM SORRY YOU ARE A DOUCHEBAG

How's that?

Actually I should do the politician apology: "I'm sorry people didn't understand what I really meant to say, which is something they won't get mad at. I really actually said that, you just didn't understand at the time."


You are calling someone who financially supports your website a douchebag? Really?

What he's immune to criticism because he's paying me $5?


Of course not. But "douchebag"? That's not criticism, that's name-calling. I feel like there was some recent event you supported which was hoping to put a stop to this sort of thing. Can't recall what the event was however.
 
2010-11-01 06:01:49 PM
homeschooled: DREW IS ALLOWED TO SAY WHATEVER THE F*CK HE WANTS ON HIS OWN WEBSITE AND YOU ALL HAVE TO LIKE IT OR ELSE YOU CAN LEAVE.

I choose option "C" - make fun of Drew for being a whiny biatch with an overdeveloped sense of importance.
 
2010-11-01 06:01:54 PM
Starryeyes: Drew: You're supposed to write in all caps when you say that

I AM GOOD AT THIS GAME CAN WE GET OUR PONIES YET


i789.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-01 06:01:58 PM
Quel: LeafyGreens: Oh looky, the TFD circlejerkers are here to threadjack Drew's trainwreck thread.

Please regale us with more 3-5 year old copypastas. They're so hilarious.

WTF? Who are you?

Look, sparky, I am a contributing member of this comunity and I offer sound, if blunt advice.

You really should go troll somebody else, because clearly you have no idea who you are farking with.

If I have to, I will escalate this and your short career of prancing around here spouting of at TFers will be over faster than you hit F5.

You may not realize that some of us have histories around here that go back further than your accidental conception.

So simmer down, sit back, and let the adults teach you a thing or two before you hurt yourself.

Instead of rushing your fingers to the keyboard to respond, why don't you think about my words and attempt to locate your prostate instead.


Woah LeafyGreens, you better watch out. I think you just made someone on the internets mad.
 
2010-11-01 06:02:02 PM
F*CK YOU, DREW, YOU SANCTIMONIOUS HYPOCRITE.

You don't write a goddamn thing on this website! You create nothing! You do no work! A bunch of thankless volunteers have made you rich. HOW DARE YOU ASK ANY TV WRITER TO GIVE YOU "CREDIT" FOR THEIR MATERIAL WHEN YOU WON'T EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS WE, THE USERS, WHO CREATE ALL OF THE MATERIAL ON THIS SITE?

Have you ever once written an actual headline, you pompous, butthurt asshole? Jon Stewart has done more for media integrity than you ever will. He is a hero of transparency. You are a cockbag who stumbled into wealth by taking advantage of a bunch of people you can't even be bothered to send a card to at the holidays.

You owe every admin and moderator on this site $10,000 in US cash, and you owe every user an apology after that hamfisted rant.
 
2010-11-01 06:02:14 PM
HEY EVERYBODY!!! LET'S ALL SEND DREW PICS OF OUR CAWKS!!!
 
2010-11-01 06:02:14 PM
lennavan:

They said this validated what they were already thinking about. Unless you're suggesting they lied about that, this seems like a pretty reasonable response to me. "Thanks for the donations and yes, your support validated what we were already thinking of doing." It implies they may not have done it this soon or at all without the validation.


I didnt suggest that. Just suggesting that the idea for the rally could have come from many influences.
 
2010-11-01 06:02:18 PM
Handsome B. Wonderful: Drew: No I always expect all the whiners to show up and gripe, that's pretty much par for the course.

The whining started at the very top of the page.


Yeah just as soon as I posted the article and way sooner than any of them would have had time to read it
 
2010-11-01 06:02:19 PM
Gimmick: homeschooled: DREW IS ALLOWED TO SAY WHATEVER THE F*CK HE WANTS ON HIS OWN WEBSITE AND YOU ALL HAVE TO LIKE IT OR ELSE YOU CAN LEAVE.

I choose option "C" - make fun of Drew for being a whiny biatch with an overdeveloped sense of importance.


BUT.... he is important.
 
2010-11-01 06:02:28 PM
oh god well this was a fun thread
 
2010-11-01 06:02:38 PM
ThreeEdgedSword: If Chin's could kill

If Chin's could kill we'd be looking for a Chinese serial killer, instead of going Grammarnazi.
 
2010-11-01 06:02:54 PM
Poppa Boner: HEY EVERYBODY!!! LET'S ALL SEND DREW PICS OF OUR CAWKS!!!

What if I don't have one?
 
2010-11-01 06:03:09 PM
Poppa Boner: HEY EVERYBODY!!! LET'S ALL SEND DREW PICS OF OUR CAWKS!!!

you go first.

enjoy your vacation!
 
2010-11-01 06:03:21 PM
Dan the Schman: Awww, look at all the liters white-knighting Drew hoping to get sponsored. And like all butthurt crybabies, Drew avoids all the posts pointing out in the transcript that he is completely off base in his whiny rant.

He does that?

Back off you farking animals, back off I say!
 
2010-11-01 06:03:28 PM
ThreeEdgedSword: If Chin's could kill

Is that Robert Z'Dar?


FriarReb98: I have nothing good to contribute so I will just jump on TMLO's font-facing bandwagon.

THIS IS FOR THE GREATER GOOD

THE GREATER GOOD



FelineMommy27:
Is that *REAL* or *REAL REAL*? Perhaps it's actually for *PLAY PLAY*.

It's either real or a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream inside a dream.

Either/or.
 
2010-11-01 06:03:42 PM
I've been telling you people for years that Stewert is a hack and this just adds to proof.

You liberals most trusted spokesman is a COMEDIAN.

When Stewert gets ripped for his stupid opinions, and he's had more than a few, he (just like Maher) falls back on the 'I'm just a comic' excuse but when he gets something right - which is rare - he talks about his 'insight'.

And this: Sooooooooo...Stewert treats someone from the Left poorly?
Boo-farking-hoo.
 
2010-11-01 06:03:56 PM
Seriously? Could this sound more petulant?

Honestly, I'm sure Reddit's support "didn't hurt." But what made hundreds of thousands show up wasn't internet posts... I'm pretty sure it was the non-stop promotion on not one, but two extremely popular cable comedy shows, plus the exposure given by the mainstream news media (CNN, etc). Whining about not praised enough is immature at best.
 
2010-11-01 06:04:10 PM
CraicBaby: What if I don't have one?

Take CC's balls out of your purse and take a pic of them.
 
2010-11-01 06:04:12 PM
Poppa Boner: Bob_Laublaw: Unf*ckingbelievable. Got a business opportunity in Amsterdam. Srsly. Just need 1.2 Million Euros...... how's your savings these days?

Tree-Fitty.


Well, there ya go... that would explain why you never lose that monster boner for long. Of course it'll come back...
 
2010-11-01 06:04:12 PM
Drew: I don't even know what the password is for that. Seriously

I'll put $10 on "bunghole"
 
2010-11-01 06:04:17 PM
This thread is going huge (for them).

It is an antitroll..
Maybe Drew is planning on selling Fark
 
2010-11-01 06:04:25 PM
Drew: Handsome B. Wonderful: Drew: No I always expect all the whiners to show up and gripe, that's pretty much par for the course.

The whining started at the very top of the page.

Yeah just as soon as I posted the article and way sooner than any of them would have had time to read it


Because when you start of an article with whining about half a quote, clearly it is going to get better halfway through.
 
2010-11-01 06:04:31 PM
lennavan: BumpInTheNight: Nah I'd go by the thread's contents not the click count on this one, and yah you're definitely alienating a lot of us here. The only ones defending the post seem to be either the TFD lifers or their troll-alts.

It is clicks and not substance that drive website content. Welcome to the internet.


You're taking that out of context, this is a common mistake made by noobs, I know this because I am familiar with the internet combats.
 
2010-11-01 06:04:52 PM
Drew:
Nah I don't let it bother me I treat this stuff like sparring. Start taking this crap seriously and you'll end up in the loonie bin. Cue XKCD someone's wrong on the internet cartoon


It bothered you enough to turn it into a public issue. It's bothered you enough that you're not addressing the oft-noted fact that Stewart/Colbert didn't say what you claimed they did. And it's bothered you enough that you're entering into name-calling contests with your clients.

Maybe it's time you took a walk outside. Go don't let it bother you some place where you won't damage your brand.
 
2010-11-01 06:04:55 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: ThreeEdgedSword: If Chin's could kill

Is that Robert Z'Dar?


i789.photobucket.com
 
2010-11-01 06:05:04 PM
JON STEWART THOUGHT ATTENTION WHORES WOULD MAKE GOOD MODS
 
2010-11-01 06:05:09 PM
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: THIS IS FOR THE GREATER GOOD

THE GREATER GOOD


How dare you deface a Hot Fuzz quote with a font of such poor quality?
 
2010-11-01 06:05:12 PM
Awww, those poor little darlings. Those poor, poor little darlings.

Jesus, I can't muster the amount of sarcasm required to respond to this. Congratu-farking-lations.
 
2010-11-01 06:05:19 PM
gbn2c: Seriously? Could this sound more petulant?

Honestly, I'm sure Reddit's support "didn't hurt." But what made hundreds of thousands show up wasn't internet posts... I'm pretty sure it was the non-stop promotion on not one, but two extremely popular cable comedy shows, plus the exposure given by the mainstream news media (CNN, etc). Whining about not praised enough is immature at best.


i'm pretty sure that fark.com is Drew's party. he can cry if he wants.
 
2010-11-01 06:05:19 PM
CraicBaby: Poppa Boner: HEY EVERYBODY!!! LET'S ALL SEND DREW PICS OF OUR CAWKS!!!

What if I don't have one?


I'll send mine twice just for you.

Weaver95: Poppa Boner: HEY EVERYBODY!!! LET'S ALL SEND DREW PICS OF OUR CAWKS!!!

you go first.

enjoy your vacation!


Shut Weaver you friggen Nazi.
 
2010-11-01 06:05:38 PM
Tommy Moo: hamfisted

you know who else liked fisting hams?
 
2010-11-01 06:05:52 PM
ThreeEdgedSword: Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: ThreeEdgedSword: If Chin's could kill

Is that Robert Z'Dar?


Castleton snob!
 
2010-11-01 06:06:14 PM
Trapper439: Way to go, getting free advertising from Fox News, Drew.

I'm sure Fox News linking to this thread will lead to a fresh influx of quality* right-wing poutrage trolls for the Politics tab. That'll pump the page views up. Everybody wins**. Good jorb.

/* not really
//** not really


Nah I doubt it election's tomorrow, it's gonna be real quiet wednesday
 
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