klymen: Can someone who has a solid grasp of human evolution explain to me why I have this instinctual urge to hurt these people?


Why would you ever think such a thing??

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Slaves2Darkness: klymen: Can someone who has a solid grasp of human evolution explain to me why I have this instinctual urge to hurt these people?

Cause you are a fat retarded basement dweller with nothing better to do then obsess of the most repetitive, grinding, boring games to ever be produced.

Seriously is there anything worse then a Blizzard game? WOW is like they decided to take the absolute worst aspects of tabletop games and stick a pretty front end on them.

You've never played a game by Cryptic, have you?

/I keed, I keed.
//But no, seriously, Cryptic games are awful.

Dr.Knockboots: The best part was the borderline retarded kid breaking his knee/leg/tearing something.. whatever he did doing the Undead dance.
Sad but damn, damn funny.

/only wanted to hear about their upcoming new IP MMO... which I'm guessing is an MMOFPS. Too bad there wasn't anything on that.. in fact, this Blizzcon was the lamest.

From what I understand, that kid was from my old server. Not a bad bloke.

Splinshints: I sure did like blizzard before they became the least technically competent MMO maker on the planet, started spying on their players, became the worst at customer service in possibly all of gaming history and decided to sue everybody under the sun using some of the most ridiculously bogus and anti-consumer claims in recent memory.

On the plus side, the money I'll save not buying SC2, Cataclysm, and D3 can help me finish building up a solid library of PS3 and Wii titles.

u mad bro?

TsukasaK: Shiat, is it even possible to make an MMO that isn't a grindfest? This is why I barely play any of them. WoW bores me to tears.

Planetside wasn't a grindfest. It sucked in wholly new and unique ways that did not require the MMOly Trinity or quest grinding.

WoW is great/sucks hard because all it is is the most basic MMO elements dumbed down to appeal to the lowest common denominator, but given Blizzard's polish so even if it's generic and repetitive, most everything works and is fun.

I haven't played since a few months after Burning Crusade came out, but every MMO I've played since then is lacking either in UI/design (Warhammer), buggyness (Age of Conan), or balance (Global Agenda). Yes, it's unfair to compare newly released games to WoW 6 years on, but the landscape has changed. All WoW had to do when it was released was be better and more accessible than EQ, which was an unforgiving, merciless nightmare for new players.

At this point, you can't beat WoW using the same traditional MMORPG template. They have that locked down. Something innovative has a chance at securing a following, so Guild Wars 2 with it's lack of dedicated healing and Planetside 2 (assuming it gets made) with it being an FPS both look promising. So does the new Star Wars game, because it has a gold mine IP and people will play it solely because of that.

WoW has shown that some millions of people like the grindfest. Now it's up to other companies to see if they can find millions who like something else that they'll drop $15/month on.

Quigs: Still, EQ was better in almost every way.

It appealed to the hardcore RPG crowd. Seriously, when it first game out, if you wanted to regain mana in the original game, you had to open up your spellbook and stare at your spells, until you learned your damn lesson and conserved mana.

Well sure, that was great when the MMO market was measured in hundreds of thousands of subscribers. But WoW has shown investors that you can peak over 10 million concurrent subscriptions, and anything less than a million is a failure and cause for ending support. Even WoW as cupcake as leveling originally was has made it even easier to play to max level.

Jubeebee: WoW is great/sucks hard because all it is is the most basic MMO elements dumbed down to appeal to the lowest common denominator, but given Blizzard's polish so even if it's generic and repetitive, most everything works and is fun.

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Jubeebee: I haven't played since a few months after Burning Crusade came out

So, basically, you haven't played in years and you know everything about current WoW?

WoW is an evolving game. In Vanilla WoW, it was pretty damn difficult, with only a very very very very small % actually getting to see Naxxramus or AQ40.

In TBC, they opened it up a bit, allowing all specs to be somewhat viable (unless you were a moron) and they had a pretty good raid flowchart: When it was released, the first tier of raiding was difficult, as it should be. When the next tier was released, the previous tier got nerfed, so more people can access it. And so on and so forth with each new tier of raiding.

In WotLK, they blew the game open, allowing everything to be accessible by everyone. Most didn't like it, because they felt it was too easy, but many of those people didn't even bother trying hardmodes in Ulduar or ICC. Blizz has done some of its best raid bosses in TBC and used that in WotLK with mixed results. Hardmodes for hardcore players, regular modes for everyone else, 10 mans for casuals, and lots of heroic grinding.

In Cata, it seems they are going back to the TBC model with WotLK mixed in. I'd say it is 65% TBC and 35% WotLK, which I think would make a great game.

/I'M NOT FAT