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2010-10-28 06:22:58 AM
Not gull wing. Actually more scissors, like the Lambos.

/story reads like a Babelfish translation
 
2010-10-28 06:52:35 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the black industrial wheel look should just die already? Your M3/Fusion/Jetta is not a NASCAR.

/Almost as bad as the Too-Shiny-To-Be-Real chrome trim thing going on.
 
2010-10-28 07:09:05 AM
Black industrial wheels remind me of something from Mattel.

And yeah, distinct lack of gullwings. These LSD doors do not make me think I can fly.

This is a gullwing:

www.automobilsport.com
 
2010-10-28 08:09:16 AM
this is news?
black dudes in the ghettos have been putting lambo doors on thier cars for years. yes on anything
 
2010-10-28 08:19:38 AM
Freakin Rican: this is news?
black dudes in the ghettos have been putting lambo doors on thier cars for years. yes on anything


officeforward.com
 
2010-10-28 08:26:01 AM
Dumb. Gimme the M5 with standard run-of-the-mill doors anyday.

/The M5 is an M3 on acid.
 
2010-10-28 08:34:39 AM
FTFA: In case of people interested in setting only one door at the driver's side, the same can be done at a price of $1,104.

You just know that the above mentioned black dudes in the ghettos will be getting the single door kit. Sha-Niqua'aa will have to open her passenger door the old fashioned way.

Nick Nostril: /story reads like a Babelfish translation

First thing I noticed...
 
2010-10-28 09:23:21 AM
Considering how incredibly overpriced even the simplest option is on a BMW, $2K for fancy doors seems like a very good deal.

/leather seats aren't standard on an M3? Seriously?
//The car itself is $55K, don't nickel & dime me on options.
 
2010-10-28 09:26:39 AM
Tax Boy: /leather seats aren't standard on an M3? Seriously?

Leather is not good for high performance driving. You slide all over. Perhaps leather as standard with cloth as a no-charge option would have been the way to do it. Mercedes did this on a few models in the past.
 
2010-10-28 09:27:48 AM
this was farkworthy?

it should been on jalopnik where it belonged
 
2010-10-28 09:32:49 AM
stuhayes2010: Freakin Rican: this is news?
black dudes in the ghettos have been putting lambo doors on thier cars for years. yes on anything


i840.photobucket.com

need i say more?

i840.photobucket.com
 
2010-10-28 09:32:55 AM
www.ridelust.com

/hotlinked
 
2010-10-28 09:52:10 AM
uncdwm: /hotlinked

that's a good one
 
2010-10-28 10:14:17 AM
Dammit, I want an M3. But all my logic neurons and reality safety checks buzz whenever I seriously consider going for one. I mean yeah its really nice, its fast, its a BMW, German cars are amazing, but its overly expensive, it attracts the wrong kind of attention, I haven't raced since I was 18 and that youthful stupidity cleared out of my system.

Plus for the price of like an 07' M3 I could get a brand new car.
 
2010-10-28 10:18:24 AM
scarmig: Am I the only one who thinks the black industrial wheel look should just die already? Your M3/Fusion/Jetta is not a NASCAR.

/Almost as bad as the Too-Shiny-To-Be-Real chrome trim thing going on.


I'll get off your lawn in just a minute, but I think on the right car black wheels actually look good.

On the $60,000 M3...yeah it can be pretty sweet(if it fits the with the rest of the car). Mom's 1993 honda CRX...not so much.
 
2010-10-28 10:18:37 AM
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That's one hell of a search.
 
2010-10-28 10:19:41 AM
BMW M3: Camaro for Persians
 
2010-10-28 10:21:10 AM
What kind of cheap, tacky ass do you have to be to only spring for one door kit? Can you imagine having a driver's side lambo, and a regular passenger door?
 
2010-10-28 10:26:10 AM
bad_blood: What kind of cheap, tacky ass do you have to be to only spring for one door kit? Can you imagine having a driver's side lambo, and a regular passenger door?

what if the carport at your apartment is wide enough that you only need the one side done?
 
2010-10-28 10:35:53 AM
radiumsoup: bad_blood: What kind of cheap, tacky ass do you have to be to only spring for one door kit? Can you imagine having a driver's side lambo, and a regular passenger door?

what if the carport at your apartment is wide enough that you only need the one side done?


Has anyone ever installed these doors out of necessity? Doing one door is like putting 22" rims in the back but not the front.
 
2010-10-28 10:37:18 AM
animal900: Tax Boy: /leather seats aren't standard on an M3? Seriously?

Leather is not good for high performance driving. You slide all over. Perhaps leather as standard with cloth as a no-charge option would have been the way to do it. Mercedes did this on a few models in the past.


WTF? Leather with suede insets is perfect for that car.

Beside if you're doing truly high performance driving, you'll be gutting the car's interior and caging it anyway. So odds are you'll be installing a seat at that point. Sell the thing with leather, suede insets to keep you from scooting around too much and sell it. It will work just fine for shooting through a curve on the highway.
 
2010-10-28 10:40:11 AM
scarmig: Am I the only one who thinks the black industrial wheel look should just die already? Your M3/Fusion/Jetta is not a NASCAR.

/Almost as bad as the Too-Shiny-To-Be-Real chrome trim thing going on.


Why would you use Fusion and Jetta in the same sentence as M3?
 
2010-10-28 10:49:30 AM
Tax Boy: Considering how incredibly overpriced even the simplest option is on a BMW, $2K for fancy doors seems like a very good deal.

/leather seats aren't standard on an M3? Seriously?
//The car itself is $55K, don't nickel & dime me on options.



People who are gonna' race them sometimes prefer cloth seats because they aren't as slippery as leather when you're cornering at close to 1.0g.
 
2010-10-28 10:52:27 AM
stappawho: scarmig: Am I the only one who thinks the black industrial wheel look should just die already? Your M3/Fusion/Jetta is not a NASCAR.

/Almost as bad as the Too-Shiny-To-Be-Real chrome trim thing going on.

Why would you use Fusion and Jetta in the same sentence as M3?


Because I've seen those black wheels on all three recently.

I could also have included, Mustang, Camero, Avalanche, Durango, and a goddamn Smart Car in the list.
 
2010-10-28 10:57:36 AM
scarmig: goddamn Smart Car

I almost killed a guy in his Smart Car. I was driving a bus and he cut me off from behind as I was changing lanes. Fortunately, I'm not an idiot and saw him and thus avoided squishing him like a bug.
 
2010-10-28 11:04:55 AM
The doors were designed that way because lambos were really wide cars, and getting out of the car in a tight space or garage without banging sh*t was a PITA. Not to mention transporting the car in a trailer. For most people who have a regular size garage, putting them on their M3 would be pretty pointless.
 
2010-10-28 11:14:41 AM
ha-ha-guy:
Beside if you're doing truly high performance driving, you'll be gutting the car's interior and caging it anyway. So odds are you'll be installing a seat at that point. Sell the thing with leather, suede insets to keep you from scooting around too much and sell it. It will work just fine for shooting through a curve on the highway.


Even spirited street driving is a hassle with leather seats. How many race seats have leather with suede inserts? None, because it's not the best material for the job.

And if you were really serious about racing, and did gut the car, what would you rather toss out, cloth seats or leather ones that raised the base price of the car by $1500?
 
2010-10-28 11:17:36 AM
mrtoadswildride: scarmig: Am I the only one who thinks the black industrial wheel look should just die already? Your M3/Fusion/Jetta is not a NASCAR.

/Almost as bad as the Too-Shiny-To-Be-Real chrome trim thing going on.

I'll get off your lawn in just a minute, but I think on the right car black wheels actually look good.

On the $60,000 M3...yeah it can be pretty sweet(if it fits the with the rest of the car). Mom's 1993 honda CRX...not so much.


Umm black wheels are for people want low maintenance. No polishing, cleaning, or even careful driving. If they get scratched just bust out the spray paint and from 3 feet away you would never know the difference. Polished wheels will spot and rust even with good care. It's honestly way too much work.
 
2010-10-28 11:19:41 AM
The_EliteOne: Dammit, I want an M3. But all my logic neurons and reality safety checks buzz whenever I seriously consider going for one. I mean yeah its really nice, its fast, its a BMW, German cars are amazing, but its overly expensive, it attracts the wrong kind of attention, I haven't raced since I was 18 and that youthful stupidity cleared out of my system.

Plus for the price of like an 07' M3 I could get a brand new car.


get yourself a spec miata or spec racer ford and go road racing on the cheap.
 
2010-10-28 11:21:32 AM
animal900: ha-ha-guy:
Beside if you're doing truly high performance driving, you'll be gutting the car's interior and caging it anyway. So odds are you'll be installing a seat at that point. Sell the thing with leather, suede insets to keep you from scooting around too much and sell it. It will work just fine for shooting through a curve on the highway.

Even spirited street driving is a hassle with leather seats. How many race seats have leather with suede inserts? None, because it's not the best material for the job.

And if you were really serious about racing, and did gut the car, what would you rather toss out, cloth seats or leather ones that raised the base price of the car by $1500?


I'm sure there's a slamming aftermarket for BMW M3 seats for upgrades amongst the regular 3 series buyers, not to mention all BMW parts. Doubt many throw BMW parts out. If any of you here are doing so, please call me first...
 
2010-10-28 11:23:16 AM
baggeryking: I'm sure there's a slamming aftermarket for BMW M3 seats for upgrades amongst the regular 3 series buyers, not to mention all BMW parts. Doubt many throw BMW parts out. If any of you here are doing so, please call me first...

In that case, why bother paying for them in the first place and then having the hassle of selling? Make no mistake, the M3 would cost more with leather seats as standard.
 
2010-10-28 11:28:50 AM
tricycleracer: BMW M3: Camaro for Persians

So I know this sleazy cokehead Persian with an M3 (free from Dad of course). You really cleared things up for me.
 
2010-10-28 11:32:50 AM
Axel_Gear: mrtoadswildride: scarmig: Am I the only one who thinks the black industrial wheel look should just die already? Your M3/Fusion/Jetta is not a NASCAR.

/Almost as bad as the Too-Shiny-To-Be-Real chrome trim thing going on.

I'll get off your lawn in just a minute, but I think on the right car black wheels actually look good.

On the $60,000 M3...yeah it can be pretty sweet(if it fits the with the rest of the car). Mom's 1993 honda CRX...not so much.

Umm black wheels are for people want low maintenance. No polishing, cleaning, or even careful driving. If they get scratched just bust out the spray paint and from 3 feet away you would never know the difference. Polished wheels will spot and rust even with good care. It's honestly way too much work.



So, what you're saying here is that my neighbor with the top-end Avalanche, who washes and polishes his truck twice a week, put black wheels on it so he wouldn't have to wash them?

I can almost see it on a working vehicle, but I rarely see them on working vehicles. They are on flashy vehicles trying to make a statement.

Seriously. I saw a SmartCar this morning with black wheels. SmartCar. Black wheels. While I was watering my lawn.
 
2010-10-28 11:33:32 AM
animal900: baggeryking: I'm sure there's a slamming aftermarket for BMW M3 seats for upgrades amongst the regular 3 series buyers, not to mention all BMW parts. Doubt many throw BMW parts out. If any of you here are doing so, please call me first...

In that case, why bother paying for them in the first place and then having the hassle of selling? Make no mistake, the M3 would cost more with leather seats as standard.


pssst...3-series BMWs as a group come with pleather seats standard, leather seats are part of an options group upgrade for all of them.
 
2010-10-28 11:38:53 AM
Ball of Confusion: get yourself a spec miata or spec racer ford and go road racing on the cheap.

i plan to eventually get a well used bmw 3 or 5 series

miatas are out, i don't fit, fords are almost as bad
 
2010-10-28 11:45:24 AM
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That's one hell of a search.


Explains a lot about why someone would put these doors on the M3, though.
 
2010-10-28 11:45:53 AM
loonatic112358: Ball of Confusion: get yourself a spec miata or spec racer ford and go road racing on the cheap.

i plan to eventually get a well used bmw 3 or 5 series

miatas are out, i don't fit, fords are almost as bad


Spec Boxster is the new spec Miata. Just make sure to swap that intermediate shaft!
 
2010-10-28 11:51:13 AM
The_EliteOne: Dammit, I want an M3. But all my logic neurons and reality safety checks buzz whenever I seriously consider going for one. I mean yeah its really nice, its fast, its a BMW, German cars are amazing, but its overly expensive, it attracts the wrong kind of attention, I haven't raced since I was 18 and that youthful stupidity cleared out of my system.

Plus for the price of like an 07' M3 I could get a brand new car.


One that wouldn't break expensively every other month. I was looking at M3s until I looked at the voluminous recall sheet. Dayuum. The things are just way overcomplicated, and it's damn near impossible to keep everything working right.
 
2010-10-28 12:02:27 PM
animal900: Tax Boy: /leather seats aren't standard on an M3? Seriously?

Leather is not good for high performance driving. You slide all over. Perhaps leather as standard with cloth as a no-charge option would have been the way to do it. Mercedes did this on a few models in the past.


OK. That makes sense for the performance M's.

That BMW charges extra for leather (and makes "pleather" standard) in their "luxury" lineup is pretty crappy. They also charge extra for a lot of features that come standard in their competition. Don't know why BMW nickel & dimes on a myriad of "that should be included for $40K" options even on the high end.

/that said, wouldn't turn my nose up at a BMW
//my middle finger tends to go up a lot at them though. Thanks for cutting me off, asshat.
 
2010-10-28 12:02:46 PM
AcneVulgaris: One that wouldn't break expensively every other month. I was looking at M3s until I looked at the voluminous recall sheet. Dayuum. The things are just way overcomplicated, and it's damn near impossible to keep everything working right.

There is 1 recall on the SMG transmission, where did you find info that says otherwise?

Also, the leather seats are not much of an issue given that they have excellent thigh and shoulder support, even for spirited street driving the slipperiness is not an issue.
 
2010-10-28 12:44:25 PM
That's what my car has been missing, the zap for it's zip. I want people to look at my car and say "Wow, man, totally zip zap, zippy..zappy."
 
2010-10-28 12:46:45 PM
MadMonk: That's what my car has been missing, the zap for it's zip. I want people to look at my car and say "Wow, man, totally zip zap, zippy..zappy."

www.salamitsunami.com

/turntable slave
 
2010-10-28 01:15:54 PM
I'm sure that goes great with the software glitch they can't seem to find for years that causes the pillar-less windows to get out of sync with whether the door open or closed.

/possibly the best engine/suspension tech
//overzealous use of software
 
2010-10-28 01:18:07 PM
animal900: ha-ha-guy:
Beside if you're doing truly high performance driving, you'll be gutting the car's interior and caging it anyway. So odds are you'll be installing a seat at that point. Sell the thing with leather, suede insets to keep you from scooting around too much and sell it. It will work just fine for shooting through a curve on the highway.

Even spirited street driving is a hassle with leather seats. How many race seats have leather with suede inserts? None, because it's not the best material for the job.

And if you were really serious about racing, and did gut the car, what would you rather toss out, cloth seats or leather ones that raised the base price of the car by $1500?


For serious racing I'd buy a car with a track pack option right out the gate and not have to gut shiat. The vast majority of BMW M3s sold will be used for street driving. Day to day driving, road trips, bursts of acceleration on the highway. Leather is better than cloth. I'm going to take a car out to a road course every weekend then I'll buy a track pack and I won't worry about sliding due to the massive safety harness I'll have on.

I'd have Cadillacs flying around the Milford Proving Grounds at 200+ and never had any problem slipping around in my seat. Sloshed a Coke on my lap when I hit the skid pad once, but that was the size of it.
 
2010-10-28 01:32:56 PM
ha-ha-guy: For serious racing I'd buy a car with a track pack option right out the gate and not have to gut shiat. The vast majority of BMW M3s sold will be used for street driving.

I agree with all of this.

Day to day driving, road trips, bursts of acceleration on the highway. Leather is better than cloth.

I don't think I agree with this, but I'll wait for your explanation of why leather is better than cloth for day to day driving, road trips, and bursts of accelleration.
 
2010-10-28 01:34:03 PM
Tax Boy: OK. That makes sense for the performance M's.

The point of any M is performance. There are no non-performance M's. Luxury features are for people that are aware of and decide to sacrifice performance on their performance vehicle (which is okay), or people who don't understand what they are buying and are collosal losers who should buy a Mercedes (which is a great car for them).

/I am only this passionate because people that don't understand car performance are the reason there are so many lux-sporty cars sold as sports cars and lux-sports cars sold as near-supercars.
 
2010-10-28 01:35:04 PM
uncdwm: /hotlinked


HA! A piece of shiat Civic that has scissor doors, while the Gallardo doesn't. Color me surprised!

Civic drivers: YOU DRIVE VTEC PIECES OF SHIAT! Get a real engine!
 
2010-10-28 01:48:16 PM
animal900: ha-ha-guy: For serious racing I'd buy a car with a track pack option right out the gate and not have to gut shiat. The vast majority of BMW M3s sold will be used for street driving.

I agree with all of this.

Day to day driving, road trips, bursts of acceleration on the highway. Leather is better than cloth.

I don't think I agree with this, but I'll wait for your explanation of why leather is better than cloth for day to day driving, road trips, and bursts of accelleration.


As a Michigander I am very partial to heated seats (you can do heated cloth, but they're a little more on the rare side, also cooled leather is also much easier to do).

I personally have found leather wears better than cloth. I tend to drive my cars into the ground and as long as you maintain the leather with 3-4 treatments a year there are no worries over cracking or the like. I wore holes in the cloth seats I owned. Also leather wipes clean and stains aren't a huge issue. If say you're on the highway and you spill something, you can just wipe it clean at the next rest stop. If you wait with a cloth seat, moreso with a lightly colored one, you run the risk of a visible stain.

Finally consider the majority buyer for the M3. Street driving, high income, buying the M3 in part for the engine but also in part for the logo and badges on it. Odds are they likely want the leather option. Anecdotally we sell very few Buicks or Cadillacs with cloth seats (in some cases we simply stopped offering it as an option or as an optional downgrade). I feel the standard package of the vehicle should reflect what most people are going to want and right now leather is the trendy thing they want.
 
2010-10-28 02:34:26 PM
ha-ha-guy: I feel the standard package of the vehicle should reflect what most people are going to want and right now leather is the trendy thing they want.

BMW thinks the opposite. (new window)

1/2 of their cars in Germany are custom built and they want to get more US buyers to do custom builds as well.
 
2010-10-28 02:51:12 PM
loonatic112358: Ball of Confusion: get yourself a spec miata or spec racer ford and go road racing on the cheap.

i plan to eventually get a well used bmw 3 or 5 series

miatas are out, i don't fit, fords are almost as bad


Find an '06 330 or perhaps the 335 that came later. 330 has 250 hp and is ridiculously quick and the 335 has a close equivalent to the last run (e46) M3 engine at 300 hp (as opposed to the 333 hp e46 M3).

I love my '04 325ci and I will upgrade to one of those models before I go to the M3 I think. And honestly, after owning different cars, I will never own anything but BMW, for the most part, for the rest of my life if I can help it. I even convinced my wife to drop her A4 for a Cooper S.
 
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