Oh no...no o!

Aren't there 3 major candidates?

They were off by 20c? Outrage

They missed it by 30 cents, big farking deal.

All2morrowsparTs: Aren't there 3 major candidates?

*Brain Fart* Iwas thinking about the Senate Race with the Current Gov.

Slink back in my hole and have another pepsi.

i'm surprised Scott didn't respond "how should I know? I only steal millions"

Ok, I guess I don't understand what it means to be a multimillionaire:

FTFA- "Scott, a multimillionaire, says he poured his life savings of $125,000 into creating two health care providers, Columbia Hospital Corporation and Solantic Corporation."

"220, 221, whatever it takes."

Clearly, its potato.

Why did they spend half the debate talking about Obama, shouldn't they be talking about Florida?

I would fire the moderators.

Ackbarican_Idol: They missed it by 30 cents, big farking deal.

Well, that comes out to ~$600/yr if someone is working 40 hours a week. To someone on minimum wage that's probably a big farking deal.

idrow: "220, 221, whatever it takes."

I salute you.

jsobota: Ackbarican_Idol: They missed it by 30 cents, big farking deal.

Well, that comes out to ~$600/yr if someone is working 40 hours a week. To someone on minimum wage that's probably a big farking deal.

You sound poor.

Well, we know Scott was within 30 cents. Which isn't that bad. Sink agreeing with him could mean she didn't have a clue and figured if she was wrong, they'd both be wrong. Or she just happened to believe the exact erroneous information that Scott did.

JohnAnnArbor: Rainstar: Ok, I guess I don't understand what it means to be a multimillionaire:

FTFA- "Scott, a multimillionaire, says he poured his life savings of $125,000 into creating two health care providers, Columbia Hospital Corporation and Solantic Corporation."

Um, possibly before he made the money? Duh.

Huh. *tilts head*

Yeah...Duh works perfectly there. Farking and watching Castle on hulu somehow allowed me to mis-read the sentence I actually quoted. My mind read that as that's how much he donated to his own campaign, not what he used to create those corps.

/it's true, you read what you want to read sometimes

While I understand this is not feasible in any way, I always liked the idea of making our Governors, Congress people, Presidents, etc. live off the median wage of whatever section of the populace they represent.

I think when I vote, I am just vote "blank" for governor. Might write in Drew Curtis or one of my neighbors.

Elect me Governor, I nailed it.

Rainstar: Ok, I guess I don't understand what it means to be a multimillionaire:

FTFA- "Scott, a multimillionaire, says he poured his life savings of $125,000 into creating two health care providers, Columbia Hospital Corporation and Solantic Corporation."

Alternatively, it could be multimillionaire in terms of assets not counting liquid assets.

I mean a decent sized 'old family farm' in a now-desirable area can easily bring you over that 2 million in 'net worth' making you a Multimillionaire.

Yet since you're a farmer, you still have no money.


Such is the way.

/"former" Farmer.

I remember when the minimum wage was about $2.85 and all the bigwig derps in DC were saying it needed to be higher...

This was when, for example, Arby's was doing it's 5 for $5 roast beef sammiches all the time. Cost of a first-class stamp: $0.25, Cost of a gallon of regular gas: $1.16, Cost of a dozen eggs: $1.00, Cost of a gallon of Milk: $2.78 From this site for the stuff after the sammiches (new window)

Now what do you have?

And some people STILL think raising the minimum wage is a good thing? Do people really think major corporations (and all others) are just going to suck up those losses?

Nope... raise the price on every farking thing to make up for it.

Arcturus72: I remember when the minimum wage was about $2.85 and all the bigwig derps in DC were saying it needed to be higher...

This was when, for example, Arby's was doing it's 5 for $5 roast beef sammiches all the time. Cost of a first-class stamp: $0.25, Cost of a gallon of regular gas: $1.16, Cost of a dozen eggs: $1.00, Cost of a gallon of Milk: $2.78 From this site for the stuff after the sammiches (new window)

Now what do you have?

And some people STILL think raising the minimum wage is a good thing? Do people really think major corporations (and all others) are just going to suck up those losses?

Nope... raise the price on every farking thing to make up for it.

Milk, eggs... farm workers are exempt from minimum wage BTW.

Arcturus72: Nope... raise the price on every farking thing to make up for it.

You might want to do a refresher on economics. Start with looking up "Inflation" in the dictionary.

Arcturus72: And some people STILL think raising the minimum wage is a good thing? Do people really think major corporations (and all others) are just going to suck up those losses?

Nope... raise the price on every farking thing to make up for it.

Yeah, if we remove the minimum wage companies will totally lower their prices.

Arcturus72: This was when, for example, Arby's was doing it's 5 for $5 roast beef sammiches all the time. Cost of a first-class stamp: $0.25, Cost of a gallon of regular gas: $1.16, Cost of a dozen eggs: $1.00, Cost of a gallon of Milk: $2.78 From this site for the stuff after the sammiches (new window)

And all of that stuff costs more because the minimum wage went up? A phrase that goes along the lines of 'correlation does not equal causation' comes to mind.

This is indeed quite unsettling, since raising the minimum wage down here every six months has been such a stir, and even I was aware of it in high school.

/broke college student

//I can has job now?

Arcturus72: I remember when the minimum wage was about $2.85 and all the bigwig derps in DC were saying it needed to be higher...


Since the internet was created in the same time period as you describe food prices rising, I conclude that it was the invention of the internet that caused that rise. We must destroy the internet now or starve!

/ It's amazing what conclusions you can arrive at once you realize that correlation IS causation.

Why would any of these people know what the state minimum wage is? Scott runs a health care company, and Sink ran a bank. Most, if not all, of the jobs that these type of companies have pay more than the minimum wage.

Want to know what the minimum wage is? Ask someone who manages a Burger King.

Kevin C.: Why would any of these people know what the state minimum wage is?

Because they're running for governor. Next question.

Arcturus72: I remember when the minimum wage was about $2.85 and all the bigwig derps in DC were saying it needed to be higher...

This was when, for example, Arby's was doing it's 5 for $5 roast beef sammiches all the time. Cost of a first-class stamp: $0.25, Cost of a gallon of regular gas: $1.16, Cost of a dozen eggs: $1.00, Cost of a gallon of Milk: $2.78 From this site for the stuff after the sammiches (new window)

Now what do you have?

And some people STILL think raising the minimum wage is a good thing? Do people really think major corporations (and all others) are just going to suck up those losses?

Nope... raise the price on every farking thing to make up for it.

Holy shiat, really? Prices have increased considerably since 1979, and that's minimum wage's fault? Wow. All those damn minimum wage earners buying homes drove the median house price from $65,000 to $225,000, too?

Florida holds debates?!
I figured they just threw rocks at both candidates until one of them died, then allowed the other one to represent them.

Stupid moderator - this election is about how stupid/corrupt/crazy the other candidate is. It's got NOTHING to do with issues.

I remember when the minimum wage was about $2.85 and all the bigwig derps in DC were saying it needed to be higher...

Can beat that. Minimum wage was 1.60 an hour. For each and every hour of work I could buy 6.4 gallons of gasoline or 6.4 packs of cigarettes. Gas was .25 cents a gallon, cigarettes .25 a pack.

Wanna do the math on what that would equate to today? It would make you sick. Or so farking pissed off you'd heat up a bucket of tar, grab some feathers and make for Washington, DC with a rail under your arm.

Now I'll leave it up to the rocket scientists on the left to explain why gasoline and cigarettes need to be taxed to such an extent, and have that money flow into Washington, DC.

Just sayin' -- you youngsters with college degrees and huge student loans (which are gonna cost you twice what you initially borrowed) are getting non-lubed screwed to historic proportions.

hurdboy: It's a bigger farking deal to the employers who have to "pay half" of those folks' Social Security and Medicare "contributions."

It's also a big farking deal to thousands, perhaps millions, of unionized workers whose wages are indexed based on the Federal minimum.

As for the Derpfests, the local hipsters are trying to get bus charters, carpools, etc. etc. to go. I tell them that I thought it was far over-done when Beck did it, and that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

/They skulk off and leave me alone
//TFA is right, though; the Democrats aren't a "big tent" party anymore.
/We know the Republicans aren't either.

Not knowing minimum wage off hand is a little different than minimum wage being raised or increased by 30 cents.
Forest, meet trees.
Moron meet asshat.

Queensowntalia: Clearly, its potato.

How on earth am I supposed to count that high?

Tree fiddy.

Ackbarican_Idol: They missed it by 30 cents, big farking deal.

Give someone on minimum wage that 30-cent raise, then ask them if they think it's a big deal.

Every penny received an hour equals about twenty bucks a year, assuming a 2,000 hour year. That 30 cent "oopsie" means about six hundred bucks a year - an extra rent payment, or perhaps their entire water and sewer bill for a year, or a hell of a lot of food.

And I bet neither of them thought that 30 cents an hour was a big deal, either, as they've probably not had to personally worry about something so trifling in decades, if ever.

flannelled fool: Just sayin' -- you youngsters with college degrees and huge student loans (which are gonna cost you twice what you initially borrowed) are getting non-lubed screwed to historic proportions.

This, unfortunately.

BKITU: Kid Lester: Holy shiat, really? Prices have increased considerably since 1979, and that's minimum wage's fault? Wow. All those damn minimum wage earners buying homes drove the median house price from $65,000 to $225,000, too?

Furthermore, elasticity of demand does not exist, and has no bearing on prices whatsoever. Prices are always set by underlying cost + fixed margin.

Hey, if I can't sell my eggs at cost plus at least $1.00 per dozen, then dammit, no one will.

Barakku: They were off by 20c? Outrage

Ackbarican_Idol: They missed it by 30 cents, big farking deal.

I see we have some confusion here, as well.

Regardless, that .30 (or .20) an hour can mean a lot to someone who actually makes minimum wage. To disregard that is to miss more than half the point of a debate about minimum wage.