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(CNN)   To the surprise of absolutely no one, Gitmo detainee who has been in the camp for half of his life has decided 'By golly, I guess I am guilty after all'. Dripping wet guards standing behind him unavailable for comment   (news.blogs.cnn.com ) divider line
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2010-10-25 02:04:32 PM  
My question is , why wasn't he (along with all of the other "detainees"), lined up and shot on site? Threfore, eliminating the need for "Gitmo".
 
2010-10-25 02:04:43 PM  
Dripping wet guards standing behind him unavailable for comment

Sounds like they were doing the waterboarding backwards.
 
2010-10-25 02:04:58 PM  
So now what? Do they lock him up in a different cell for the rest of his life?
 
2010-10-25 02:05:21 PM  
This is Obama's Gitmo.
 
2010-10-25 02:05:38 PM  
Poor little innocent guy only threw ONE hand grenade killed ONE person while dressed in civilian clothing.

Couldn't we let him go just this one time?
 
2010-10-25 02:06:01 PM  
He did that shiat. Regardless of how his experience afterwards has been (still better than it would've been in many many other countries) He did it and he has to face the music.
 
2010-10-25 02:06:28 PM  
Convicting a child soldier after leaving him in legal limbo for eight years and open to "enhanced interrogation" which makes his confession all the more legit.

Stay classy America.

/bonus backhand for Canada aiding and abetting this
 
2010-10-25 02:07:35 PM  
Khadr was 15 when he allegedly threw a grenade during a 2002 firefight in Afghanistan that resulted in the death of Army Sgt. 1st Class Christopher Speer. Khadr could have faced a maximum life sentence.
...It's not terrorism when we do it?

Dropping bombs on weddings is collateral damage, throwing grenades at foreign invaders is terrorism.

Is that our argument?
 
2010-10-25 02:08:03 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: /bonus backhand for Canada aiding and abetting this


The Canuck government aided this largely as a result of his family's history.

The sins of the father.....
 
2010-10-25 02:08:04 PM  

jayg22: Poor little innocent guy only threw ONE hand grenade killed ONE person while dressed in civilian clothing.


Actually the proof points to friendly fire. There's no proof the grenade he threw killed the guy. Don't you think if there was a shred of proof they would have brought the guy to trial instead of keeping him locked up for 8 years with out one? You're a yes man dipshiat. A sheep.
 
2010-10-25 02:08:07 PM  
I thought at 1st maybe he was an Afghani,. If so how could he be called a terrorist for fighting foreign invaders?

Then I saw he was Canadian...

...get a rope.
 
2010-10-25 02:08:11 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: Convicting a child soldier after leaving him in legal limbo for eight years and open to "enhanced interrogation" which makes his confession all the more legit.

Stay classy America.

/bonus backhand for Canada aiding and abetting this


All of that.
 
2010-10-25 02:08:25 PM  
I remember back in 2005(4?) when a hurricane headed up through there and washed out a giant section of I-40 just east of the TN/NC border. I was driving from Columbia, SC, to Knoxville, TN, that night and drove past the area just a few hours before it gave way.

That place could use some major shoring up.
 
2010-10-25 02:08:29 PM  
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2010-10-25 02:08:50 PM  

Putter: Khadr was 15 when he allegedly threw a grenade during a 2002 firefight in Afghanistan that resulted in the death of Army Sgt. 1st Class Christopher Speer. Khadr could have faced a maximum life sentence.
...It's not terrorism when we do it?

Dropping bombs on weddings is collateral damage, throwing grenades at foreign invaders is terrorism.

Is that our argument?


Don't forget "child soldiers are victims of conflict unless they're muslim".
 
2010-10-25 02:09:01 PM  
Wrong thread...
 
2010-10-25 02:09:24 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: Convicting a child soldier after leaving him in legal limbo for eight years and open to "enhanced interrogation" which makes his confession all the more legit.

Stay classy America.

/bonus backhand for Canada aiding and abetting this


Believe me, many Canadians are not proud that we are the ONLY developed country that has turned it's back on citizens in Gitmo. Another one to chalk up to Ubermeister Harper.
 
2010-10-25 02:09:40 PM  
He did that shiat. Regardless of how his experience afterwards has been (still better than it would've been in many many other countries) He did it and he has to face the music.

He threw a grenade at soldiers during a war. While he was a kid.

What makes that different than the soldiers shooting back? Why wouldn't he be a prisoner of war and subject to geneva conventions?

Should allied soldiers face 8 years without trial in an Iraqi prison because "they did that shiat"?
 
2010-10-25 02:09:48 PM  

Bondith: Dripping wet guards standing behind him unavailable for comment

Sounds like they were doing the waterboarding backwards.


You misunderstand. He agreed to confess if they put on a wet t-shirt contest for him.
 
2010-10-25 02:10:50 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: I thought at 1st maybe he was an Afghani,. If so how could he be called a terrorist for fighting foreign invaders?

Then I saw he was Canadian...

...get a rope.


My mistake, I too thought he was from Afghanistan. Fry that Canadian bacon.
 
2010-10-25 02:10:56 PM  

Putter: Dropping bombs on weddings is collateral damage, throwing grenades at foreign invaders is terrorism.


There is this thing called the Geneva Convention. You might read it sometime.
 
2010-10-25 02:11:01 PM  
LAUGHTER OL so I am guessing that we will now do the interrogation of troops from the Wikileaks.organization website and give them the verdict of guilt because they have also thrown things and caused the deaths. We would never wish for someone to defend the homes of themselves. That will be the surfing board torture for you.
 
2010-10-25 02:11:01 PM  

bigbadideasinaction: Convicting a child soldier after leaving him in legal limbo for eight years and open to "enhanced interrogation" which makes his confession all the more legit.

Stay classy America.

/bonus backhand for Canada aiding and abetting this


Would you have preferred an execution? Or maybe he should have been freed to blow up a bus full of innocent people?
 
2010-10-25 02:11:10 PM  

Grass Hopper: nother one to chalk up to Ubermeister Harper.


Yup, and Martin/Chretien before him. Had they not been so corrupt the last time they held power, we wouldn't now be dealing with Harper as PM.
 
2010-10-25 02:11:11 PM  

Grass Hopper: bigbadideasinaction: Convicting a child soldier after leaving him in legal limbo for eight years and open to "enhanced interrogation" which makes his confession all the more legit.

Stay classy America.

/bonus backhand for Canada aiding and abetting this

Believe me, many Canadians are not proud that we are the ONLY developed country that has turned it's back on citizens in Gitmo. Another one to chalk up to Ubermeister Harper.


I'd believe that, except every time I look at the polls apparently Canadians are quite okay with Harper.

/yes yes, I know, all sides are bad, vote conservative
 
2010-10-25 02:11:40 PM  
If it took this long to torture it out of him, they obviously weren't very effective torturers.
 
2010-10-25 02:11:48 PM  
Yeah I don't get this.

First: he was 15. Aren't minors supposed to be allowed some slack? Kids in these conflicts typically aren't given a lot of choice. They are either indoctrinated or forced to be soldiers.

Second: he (maybe) threw a grenade in a firefight. Isn't this, you know, part of war? Sure, he wasn't wearing a uniform, but he was part of an organized resistance. Sounds pretty legitimate to me.
 
2010-10-25 02:12:12 PM  

EdNortonsTwin: I thought at 1st maybe he was an Afghani,. If so how could he be called a terrorist for fighting foreign invaders?

Then I saw he was Canadian...

...get a rope.


He was a guest of the Taliban, which as you brain-washed Westerns hate to admit, was the ruling government at the time. The compound they were in was surrounded. The Candian military attacked. They invaded a foreign country and invaded a home. Castle doctrine is proudly held in this country, but apparently not in others?

They were cowards, some stupid GI got killed, and they want to string up some kid on the murder charge. It's all bullshiat. All you westerns hide behind technology but when push comes to shove some Muslim would grind your balls into the dust if it came hand to hand.

Weak pussies hiding behind technology. That's really all you are.
 
2010-10-25 02:12:13 PM  

Carbonated_Brains: Should allied soldiers face 8 years without trial in an Iraqi prison because "they did that shiat"?


Not if they are White and or also or Christian believers of the fairy wizard.
 
2010-10-25 02:12:15 PM  
Its a shame he won't get to return to Afghanistan.

I heard that his friends were going to have a "Welcome back, Khadr" party.
 
2010-10-25 02:12:39 PM  

Grass Hopper: Believe me, many Canadians are not proud that we are the ONLY developed country that has turned it's back on citizens in Gitmo. Another one to chalk up to Ubermeister Harper.


I can take some solace in the fact that Omar Khadr will be a millstone on Stevie's neck during the next election.

(Giuliano Zaccardelli called. He said "Cheerfully allowing Americans to abuse Canadians abroad is a career-limiting move".)
 
2010-10-25 02:12:45 PM  

Carbonated_Brains: He threw a grenade at soldiers during a war. While he was a kid.


A Kid? In America if you kill someone and you are over 10 the court can automagically turn you into an adult. Why not in war?
 
2010-10-25 02:13:07 PM  

Putter: Khadr was 15 when he allegedly threw a grenade during a 2002 firefight in Afghanistan that resulted in the death of Army Sgt. 1st Class Christopher Speer. Khadr could have faced a maximum life sentence.
...It's not terrorism when we do it?

Dropping bombs on weddings is collateral damage, throwing grenades at foreign invaders is terrorism.

Is that our argument?


What in the blue holy h3ll are you gargling about?
 
2010-10-25 02:13:35 PM  
Now: 2010
Then: 2002
His age then: 15
Difference: 8 years.

He's only been in the camp 8/23 years, not half.
 
2010-10-25 02:13:51 PM  
'Of course I'm guilty!' cried Parsons with a servile glance at the telescreen. 'You don't think the Party would arrest an innocent man, do you?'
 
2010-10-25 02:14:31 PM  
You suck at math subby.

/sucks at math too
 
2010-10-25 02:14:31 PM  

Bill_Wick's_Friend: I can take some solace in the fact that Omar Khadr will be a millstone on Stevie's neck during the next election.


Agreed, and yet he'll still be handed another minority.
 
2010-10-25 02:15:16 PM  

DaPinto: Now: 2010
Then: 2002
His age then: 15
Difference: 8 years.

He's only been in the camp 8/23 years, not half.


Hello nerd. I think that the school nurse has found the retainer of you.
 
2010-10-25 02:15:41 PM  

jayg22: Putter: Dropping bombs on weddings is collateral damage, throwing grenades at foreign invaders is terrorism.

There is this thing called the Geneva Convention. You might read it sometime.


Why? It's not like we care about that shiat when we're torturing confessions out of people.
 
2010-10-25 02:15:53 PM  

Carbonated_Brains: He did that shiat. Regardless of how his experience afterwards has been (still better than it would've been in many many other countries) He did it and he has to face the music.

He threw a grenade at soldiers during a war. While he was a kid.

What makes that different than the soldiers shooting back? Why wouldn't he be a prisoner of war and subject to geneva conventions?

Should allied soldiers face 8 years without trial in an Iraqi prison because "they did that shiat"?


As you say, he threw a grenade, as a kid, not a uniformed soldier. That makes it a murder charge instead of a combat fatality. Imagine the uproar if he was treated like an enemy soldier and the GIs lit his ass up right then and there. Don't get me wrong, I'm about as left as they come, but you try to kill MY guys and you can suffer the consequences.
 
2010-10-25 02:16:05 PM  

meow said the dog:
Hello nerd. I think that the school nurse has found the retainer of you.


Hey, you're missing Jersey Shore, get back to MTV.
 
2010-10-25 02:16:07 PM  
A victory for America.

God Bless Us.
 
2010-10-25 02:16:15 PM  
I'll bet Rumsfeld's orders for lube and kleenex doubled during the first years of this kid's torture, and his closed circuit tv never went down.
 
2010-10-25 02:16:21 PM  

Evil_ferret: bigbadideasinaction: Convicting a child soldier after leaving him in legal limbo for eight years and open to "enhanced interrogation" which makes his confession all the more legit.

Stay classy America.

/bonus backhand for Canada aiding and abetting this

Would you have preferred an execution? Or maybe he should have been freed to blow up a bus full of innocent people?


How about due process under the law. Speedy public trial, public evidence. That whole Rule of Law thing you're supposed to be spreading over there instead of secret trials, prisons and fighting to have a right to exist as a human being. Oh wait, America's given up those too, never mind...
 
2010-10-25 02:17:34 PM  
"He gazed up at the enormous face. Forty years it had taken him to learn what kind of smile was hidden beneath the dark moustache. O cruel, needless misunderstanding! O stubborn, self-willed exile from the loving breast! Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."
 
2010-10-25 02:17:53 PM  
I'm ok with the sentence, as long as he serves it in General Population at Rikers Island.

/The little terrorist should be the corpse of a 15-year-old with a bullet in its head
 
2010-10-25 02:18:21 PM  

jayg22: Poor little innocent guy only threw ONE hand grenade killed ONE person while dressed in civilian clothing.

Couldn't we let him go just this one time?


Are we arresting and prosecuting those Afghan fighters on our side who go into battle not in uniform?
 
2010-10-25 02:18:29 PM  

wumperton: Carbonated_Brains: He did that shiat. Regardless of how his experience afterwards has been (still better than it would've been in many many other countries) He did it and he has to face the music.

He threw a grenade at soldiers during a war. While he was a kid.

What makes that different than the soldiers shooting back? Why wouldn't he be a prisoner of war and subject to geneva conventions?

Should allied soldiers face 8 years without trial in an Iraqi prison because "they did that shiat"?

As you say, he threw a grenade, as a kid, not a uniformed soldier. That makes it a murder charge instead of a combat fatality. Imagine the uproar if he was treated like an enemy soldier and the GIs lit his ass up right then and there. Don't get me wrong, I'm about as left as they come, but you try to kill MY guys and you can suffer the consequences.


Ok if he was a kid and not a soldier then why wasn't he tried in a civilian court?
 
2010-10-25 02:18:42 PM  
hmm...this quote also works:

"We are not content with negative obedience, nor even with the most abject submission. When finally you surrender to us, it must be of your own free will. We do not destroy the heretic because he resists us; so long as he resists us we never destroy him. We convert him, we capture his inner mind, we reshape him. We burn all evil and all illusion out of him; we bring him over to our side, not in appearance, but genuinely, heart and soul. We make him one of ourselves before we kill him. It is intolerable to us that an erroneous thought should exist anywhere in the world, however secret and powerless it may be. Even in the instance of death we cannot permit any deviation . . . we make the brain perfect before we blow it out."
 
2010-10-25 02:19:13 PM  

wumperton: As you say, he threw a grenade, as a kid, not a uniformed soldier. That makes it a murder charge instead of a combat fatality. Imagine the uproar if he was treated like an enemy soldier and the GIs lit his ass up right then and there. Don't get me wrong, I'm about as left as they come, but you try to kill MY guys and you can suffer the consequences.


Foreign troops raided a home and he defended his home. And if you actually look at the proof that's available the GI was probably killed by friendly fire. Why do you think he was glossed over for the last 8 years and didn't have an actual trial? Because there was no farking evidence to convict him. You're all mindless sheep. Call him a murderer but not give him a trial. Where is your lofty justice to give this man a fair trial? Oh right, you guys just use it as an excuse to invade other countries. farking empire wannabes.
 
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