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(Washington Post)   In a move to try to become even less popular and out of touch with consumers, the RIAA says it will now start suing everybody   ( divider line
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14656 clicks; posted to Main » on 25 Jun 2003 at 11:44 PM (14 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2003-06-25 04:47:19 PM  
Trust me, this won't last. Hell, sue me, you bastards. Because I'll make it my life's work to force them to prove that file-sharing is causing the recording industry to lose money.

They can't.

If you want this to stop, focus your energies on making music harder to rip. Otherwise, stop hassling people and count your ever-increasing paychecks, you litigation-happy asshatted millionaires. Boo farking hoo.
2003-06-25 05:06:20 PM  
So they're going to sue some 14 year old kid for all he's worth and get what? His XBox?

Bunch of bullies.
2003-06-25 05:47:41 PM  
Boycott the RIAA.
2003-06-25 06:37:46 PM  
Lawyers everywhere must be drooling over this crap. They're the only ones that are going to benefit from this.
2003-06-25 07:02:21 PM  
If you want this to stop, focus your energies on making music harder to rip.

Um, what? If they want this to stop, they should either put out product that justifies a $15 or higher price tag, or drop the prices of said product.

2003-06-25 07:53:28 PM  

I think its a fairly simple argument that mp3 file sharing is causing them to lose money.

Not that I have a personal problem with it, but come on, use some common sense and don't argue a point that's completely illogical.

If you give away someone's product for free, then, yes, its very very easy to claim damages.

They will win every single one of these cases.

As much as the RIAA has their heads up their asses in terms of adoption to new technologies, they point about them losing money is not something you can pretend to argue against.
2003-06-25 08:06:03 PM  
Wow, the RIAA is basically sueing children and college students. I hope they know that they are going to hell. And I hope they know that they aren't going to get much money. They are giant assholes anyway. There needs to be a large protest outside their building (they have an HQ right?).

/won't someone please think of the children?
2003-06-25 08:13:47 PM  
Pissing off the consumers of tomorrow one lawsuit at a time. Sounds like an excellent business strategy.
2003-06-25 08:20:38 PM  
What's really funny is if we boycott them, and the boycott works so that they loose money, they will blame MP3 piracy and demand a tax levied on blank media and related items to earn back the money they lost.
2003-06-25 08:51:17 PM  
/me openly laughs his ass off at the RIAA for this
2003-06-25 09:02:27 PM  
What's really funny is if we boycott them, and the boycott works so that they loose money, they will blame MP3 piracy

That's the sad part of it all.
2003-06-25 09:10:56 PM  
2003-06-25 08:20:38 PM
What's really funny is if we boycott them, and the boycott works so that they loose money, they will blame MP3 piracy and demand a tax levied on blank media and related items to earn back the money they lost.

In Canada, they are doing this. :(
2003-06-25 09:12:32 PM  
What is it going to take to stop the RIAA?
2003-06-25 09:26:54 PM  
What is it going to take to stop the RIAA?

Tell the Jehovahs Witnesses where they all live and tell them that the RIAA people need saving.
2003-06-25 09:54:18 PM  
Maybe Al-qaeda could fly a plane into their building... hmmm..
2003-06-25 10:08:30 PM  
Well when the president of the RIAA is a carpet munching hoe, what do you expect. She's missing the cock and she knows she can't get it from anyone so she's just gonna get pissed off and start suing everyone.

Now when a band releases a cd with you know five or six worthy songs, then maybe i'll by the thing. But i'm not going to spend $18 dollars on a cd with one song and 60 minutes of filler crap music i'll never listen to.

And like others I do eventually by the cd after listening to the mp3s I download. Some of these bands should be proud too, most of them I never heard of till i got there mp3 and played it.

fark the RIAA, when i'm in hell and the RIAA shows up, i'll personally make them my biatch.
2003-06-25 10:20:53 PM  
So isn't the answer to just find a way to prevent them from getting your IP address? Anyone?
2003-06-25 10:25:07 PM  

To this day, the RIAA has been unable to prove a significant dip in revenue dollars related to file-sharing. This is what I meant by "prove it." Music continues to sell in this country, and briskly, so it's been extremely difficult for these self-important jackanapes to prove a significant drop in revenue, which is (let's face it) their primary point in the pursuit of said litigation.

Oh, and next time you want to prove a point, try not being a smarmy asshole about it unless you understand what someone's trying to say.
2003-06-25 11:00:54 PM  
Ok so here's the thing about the whole "boycott the RIAA" that's been mentioned a few times here. . . I understand that in normal circumstances, when Company A pisses off a whole lot of consumers, sometimes a group of people will make a collective effort to stop buying the company's product or using their services. However, when it comes to the RIAA, do they actually care that their pissing people off? How do you boycott the RIAA? By not buying CD's? It just seems like there will always be people who will continue to purchase their product, overpriced or not. Maybe there mind set is that they have nothing to lose here, and only something to gain, even though they'll be hated for it in the long run.

I also could be completely off in left field here, because I honestly don't know much about the RIAA. Please feel free to clue me in, I'm actually pretty curious about this stuff.
2003-06-25 11:30:22 PM  
Wow, the misuse of the word "there" and "their" is appalling in my last post. My apologies, it's really hot in my apartment.
2003-06-25 11:40:10 PM  
Right now I have a collection of nearly 100 DVDs...I can get them for about $10 a pop (cheaper than a music cd) and yet I own about 2 CDs. why?

1) The video industry does have some problems, but they produce (pretty) low priced products of excellent quality (in most cases)
2) The RIAA are a bunch of jackasses, I am personally boycotting them and the few CDs I own are solely because the bands and their CDs kick just that much ass.

Honestly, if they lowered prices and werent such nazis about it, I would actually probably have a decent sized CD collection.
2003-06-25 11:47:09 PM  
The RIAA should just bypass all of the crap they're doing now and just declare jihad on consumers.
2003-06-25 11:49:41 PM  
These nimrods are the reason I haven't bought a CD in 3 1/2 years. I haven't Dled an mp3 in my entire life either. I just think their methods are dispicable, particularly the DMCA they pushed through.
2003-06-25 11:51:30 PM  

As soon as someone comes up with a viable way to get a message across to the RIAA that we can all be a part of, the slap in the face they get from the public will be staggering.

Not buying a cd and downloading it off the net just fuels their fight. We need something that works. Get crackin!
2003-06-25 11:51:34 PM  
Maybe we should just bypass all the crap we're doing now and diclare jihad on the RIAA!
2003-06-25 11:52:06 PM  
The president of the RIAA is a lesbian? Really? It's all so clear to me now....
2003-06-25 11:52:22 PM  
We drive your cars. We cook your meals. We take out your garbage. We protect you while you sleep.

Do not fark with us.
2003-06-25 11:52:59 PM  
I say we just organize a day of boycott. All people who are affected by the impending lawsuits (or predict that they will be affected) will refuse to buy any CDs on any given day of the year. It can be broadcast months in advance, something to the tune of "If you're sick and tired of the RIAA arsefarking you with steep CD prices, bullyish legal tactics and derivative, nonsensical music, show them your displeasure by not buying any CD on... I dunno... sometime in August.
2003-06-25 11:53:46 PM  
Right now I have a collection of nearly 100 DVDs...I can get them for about $10 a pop (cheaper than a music cd) and yet I own about 2 CDs. why?

For one, it's kind of sad when a DVD costs less than a music CD. Whatever happened to the RIAA's promise that CDs would eventually cost less than cassettes, anyway?
2003-06-25 11:54:10 PM  
This is going to go over really well with consumers.

The only problem I have is with the losses.

The only real losses are from people who would have purchased the CD and didn't, not from people who would not have purchased the record no matter what. If Johnny 5 downloads tracks from Metallica with no intent to purchase now or ever, the value of the CD is not lost, as it would have never have existed. Or something. It is too late to write anything now. I shouldn't have wasted my energies on that movie thread.
2003-06-25 11:54:58 PM  
And, if you think about it, how can a very good DVD movie which takes uber-millions more dollars to produce, be priced at anywhere from $14.99 to $22.99 (was at Best Buy today)....

While a much cheaper to produce CD costs $16.99 or so. It doesn't really make sense. Especially since it is 20 year old technology that has had its manufacturing costs driven to basically nothing.

The RIAA is realizing they didnt keep up with the times and is trying to backpedal rather than advance, update technology, and produce a new and better product.
2003-06-25 11:55:16 PM  
Just get music artists to boycott them, they will have nothing then...
2003-06-25 11:55:22 PM  

I'm not exactly an advocate of file sharing, but this is over the top. Is the RIAA getting that desperate?

P.S. I'd be pissed someone distributed the Hulk, too. From what I hear, it isn't exactly a great movie in the first place...

2003-06-25 11:57:58 PM  
If you're going to continue to download pirated music as a form of protest against the unfair practices of the RIAA then realize, as all practictioners of civil disobedience must realize, that you will suffer the consequences of your illegal action.

If, on the other hand, you're doing it simply to avoid spending the money, and all rationalizing arguements are just bullsh-t, then like the lyrics to the theme song of that old cop show "Beretta", "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time."
2003-06-25 11:58:35 PM  
Simply show them the Home Recording Act. It protects your right to shared media. Oh that's right, nobody cares. For the corporation, by the people.
2003-06-25 11:59:06 PM  
I think I've got it. The RIAA wants to go out of business, kinda in the same way that criminals want to be caught.
2003-06-25 11:59:56 PM  
That's why the RIAA has been working with your legislature to pass super-dmca laws. Gives them the green light to snoop. Lot's of other industries give away free samples to increase sales. RIAA sues. I won't buy CD's anymore.
2003-06-26 12:01:56 AM  
I say people stop trading music online and start music appreciation clubs that pool their own libraries, then expand by sharing with other libraries, millions of burned DVD-roms changing hands, no downloading...

/never leave a paper trail...leave no trace...
2003-06-26 12:02:19 AM  
When I see a major recording artist homeless and not driving a bentley; that will be the day I stop downloading music.
2003-06-26 12:02:26 AM  
*phew* good thing the only thing I share is porn.
2003-06-26 12:02:35 AM  
Who wants to pay $16.00 US for what generally is one song umungst a group of twelve or so karpy ones. Singles must return! I used to pay less than a dollar US for a single (45). I now pay less than a dollar US for a blank CD.
2003-06-26 12:02:55 AM  
Are there any major labels not in the RIAA?
2003-06-26 12:03:10 AM  
Regardless if you dislike the RIAA or not, it is their responsibility to themselves and their interests to go after fileshares. No matter how you justify it with comments like "They've lost no money, they charge too much, I buy after I download." It does not change the fact that it is stealing and for you to listen to a song, means you did not buy the CD to listen to it.

They have every right to do this, and they will win their cases. Stealing is stealing, how can you argue differently?
2003-06-26 12:03:23 AM  
Here's an idea. A little cross-board pollination, but if you remember a little while back, someone posted a notorious spammer's home address on slashdot. All the slashdotters immediately signed the spammer up for catalogs, junk mail, long distance service, etc.

Anyone got Hillary Rosen's home address? </wicked grin>
2003-06-26 12:03:50 AM  
Please show me the lines of that act that does that, deevo.
2003-06-26 12:04:36 AM  
You all want to hear my theory? I bet you do...

Right now the type of musician/performer that succeeds is one who get people to want one of their songs. A catchy, one-hit wonder is great, because they sell their disc and get theri $. However, no one feels any need to support these folks, because most of the rest of their stuff sucks.

I wager that if all music was free, and royalties were done "on the honor system" there would still be a thriving music community; it would just favor those artists who produce dedicated fans. When I look at all the musicians that I think of as "good", I see musicians whose fans would support them just to know there would be another disc out. On the other hand, all of the punks who are getting pirated would be making less $, as no one seems to care if they make more music.
2003-06-26 12:04:45 AM  

**short version*** RIAA sucks, but so does stealing from the artist. even though the CD's are overpriced. Music companies need a better distribution model.

Long version
1)The music industry (Represented by the RIAA; they don't actually put out the product !!!) is losing money from the shiat economy and low quality music; file sharing has something to do with it, but not the only reason.
2)Downloading is stealing. Yes, I have done itas well. But let's call a spade a spade, and admit what is done.
3) The music industry cannot find a new way to sell music at a big profit, so being scared, this is their reply. Nice way to win over new consumers, by suing. Good luck.
4)I refuse to pay $18 for a crap disc. Only one good song ? Keep it, rather do without.
5)Honestly, I would download stuff, but I will not download the spyware that is Kazaa, ect. Also, I do more with my computer than dowload songs; no way will anyone get their grimy paws on my gear for filetrading.

2003-06-26 12:05:22 AM  
the riaa puts out fake shiat named the same as real music, i propose everyone with a garage band do the same and sue the RIAA when they download your stuff while going after the music pirates
2003-06-26 12:05:59 AM  
By the way
Which one's "Pink"?
2003-06-26 12:06:38 AM  

Well when the president of the RIAA is a carpet munching hoe, what do you expect. She's missing the cock and she knows she can't get it from anyone so she's just gonna get pissed off and start suing everyone.

actually you are probably referring to the retiring press secretary. she is actually a lesbian in an usatoday article she gives going back home to her "partner" and their shared kids as a reason to quitting her post.

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