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(Major League Baseball)   You know no one wants to manage the Pirates when one of the candidates withdraws from consideration for the job to remain a bench coach for the Royals   (mlb.mlb.com) divider line 24
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2010-10-22 04:16:33 AM  
Okay, fine, I'll do it.

Looks at list of players

Who are these farking guys?
 
2010-10-22 04:23:21 AM  
I'll do it. I mean it's not like I'd have Al Davis for a boss.
 
2010-10-22 05:44:27 AM  
When it's public knowledge that your ownership has no intention of trying to win... why would you take that job?
 
2010-10-22 06:03:13 AM  
JacksonBryan: Who are these farking guys?

彼らはくだらないです
(They're shiatty)
 
2010-10-22 07:11:33 AM  
vonschiller: When it's public knowledge that your ownership has no intention of trying to win... why would you take that job?

Yep, that coupled with the fact that you'll be grossly underpaid (by MLB managerial standards) and get fired in a year or two as part of the next "we're really really going to try to win this time, I mean it" PR campaign makes this a job nobody should want.

I hope they don't hire Tony Peña away from the Yankees.
 
2010-10-22 07:48:20 AM  
It's cool, JacksonBryan, I'll step up. Even if I'm grossly underpaid by MLB standards, it's still a job that only has 32 openings in the world. Saw a lot of these guys play in triple-A the past couple years, so I'm at least somewhat familiar with the roster. And hey, who wouldn't want to go to work with a view from your office as spectacular as PNC Park? Yeah, I'd get fired in a year or two, 2 1/2 tops, but still, there are much worse things you could do.
 
2010-10-22 07:56:52 AM  
400Babies: Yeah, I'd get fired in a year or two, 2 1/2 tops, but still, there are much worse things you could do.

And there are probably thousands of fans who would also take the job in a heartbeat. Hell, I would, too. But if you're already an established MLB coach or former manager, it's a terrible, terrible job.
 
2010-10-22 09:07:36 AM  
Why give up a job in the pros as a bench coach to manage a minor league team?
 
2010-10-22 09:24:40 AM  
Brad_Will: I hope they don't hire Tony Peña away from the Yankees.

Speaking of former Royals' managers.....the only one to have a winning season in KC since the strike.

/MLB really really only has about twelve teams
//Pittsburgh and KC aren't among them
 
2010-10-22 09:31:49 AM  
400Babies: It's cool, JacksonBryan, I'll step up. Even if I'm grossly underpaid by MLB standards, it's still a job that only has 32 openings in the world. Saw a lot of these guys play in triple-A the past couple years, so I'm at least somewhat familiar with the roster. And hey, who wouldn't want to go to work with a view from your office as spectacular as PNC Park? Yeah, I'd get fired in a year or two, 2 1/2 tops, but still, there are much worse things you could do.

Depends on how you view the Pirates' system. You could argue that the Pirates have actually rebuilt correctly this time around, and whoever takes on the manager's job is going to be the beneficiary in a couple of years when the team becomes good. I'd argue that the same thing will happen with Manny Acta in Cleveland.

/Optimist, I know
//Managers are overrated
 
2010-10-22 10:10:52 AM  
lacydog: 400Babies: It's cool, JacksonBryan, I'll step up. Even if I'm grossly underpaid by MLB standards, it's still a job that only has 32 openings in the world. Saw a lot of these guys play in triple-A the past couple years, so I'm at least somewhat familiar with the roster. And hey, who wouldn't want to go to work with a view from your office as spectacular as PNC Park? Yeah, I'd get fired in a year or two, 2 1/2 tops, but still, there are much worse things you could do.

Depends on how you view the Pirates' system. You could argue that the Pirates have actually rebuilt correctly this time around, and whoever takes on the manager's job is going to be the beneficiary in a couple of years when the team becomes good. I'd argue that the same thing will happen with Manny Acta in Cleveland.

/Optimist, I know
//Managers are overrated


Don't tell Baltimore fans that managers are over-rated.

I don't my bubble to burst until May, thank you very much.
 
2010-10-22 10:17:34 AM  
 
2010-10-22 10:21:43 AM  
JacksonBryan: Who are these farking guys?

That guy's dead.
 
2010-10-22 10:24:09 AM  
lacydog: Depends on how you view the Pirates' system. You could argue that the Pirates have actually rebuilt correctly this time around, and whoever takes on the manager's job is going to be the beneficiary in a couple of years when the team becomes good.

They're still at least a year away from being reasonable, but yeah, it could wind up not being an awful position once some of the rebuilt farm system starts coming up.

Frankly, I'm glad Gibbons is no longer a candidate. There are a lot of things a young team like the Pirates are going to need in their attempt to get back to being relevant, and "being challenged to a fistfight by the manager" is not one of them.
 
2010-10-22 10:26:08 AM  
Murphyr: Frankly, I'm glad Gibbons is no longer a candidate. There are a lot of things a young team like the Pirates are going to need in their attempt to get back to being relevant, and "being challenged to a fistfight by the manager" is not one of them.

These are the Pirates. They'll probably hire Tony Bernazard as an advisor.
 
2010-10-22 10:33:39 AM  
The Pirates should have regular games against Scranton.. just for funsies.
 
2010-10-22 10:40:52 AM  
The Bestest: The Pirates should have regular games against Scranton.. just for funsies.

PNC Park vs. PNC Field!
 
2010-10-22 10:46:55 AM  
Any system has innate checks and balances. This undesirable position is indicative of that. No one wants to be the Pirates coach because whats the farking point? Dont get me wrong, its entirely possible a coach could come in and whip up the team and pull out a winning season, but when the front office is literally working against your success, again, whats the farking point. MLB needs to step in with this organization. force a sale or something. ITs disgraceful to run a sports team, for ONLY profit. They should at least be reasonable attempts to win something.
 
2010-10-22 10:52:42 AM  
Gonz: JacksonBryan: Who are these farking guys?

That guy's dead.


So cross him off.
 
2010-10-22 11:05:03 AM  
They should sell the team back to Bing Crosby's corpse. I'm sure it would run it better.
 
2010-10-22 01:00:27 PM  
vinnydoz007: Any system has innate checks and balances. This undesirable position is indicative of that. No one wants to be the Pirates coach because whats the farking point? Dont get me wrong, its entirely possible a coach could come in and whip up the team and pull out a winning season, but when the front office is literally working against your success, again, whats the farking point. MLB needs to step in with this organization. force a sale or something. ITs disgraceful to run a sports team, for ONLY profit. They should at least be reasonable attempts to win something.

You know, maybe you're onto something. Go with the purely for profit idea and take it to the max. They could let a fan manage the team for one game - do it like a raffle. Auction it off, make being a fan of the Pirates a potentially truly interactive experience. 162 chances to pull in some extra revenue. Hate the Cardinals (Cubs fan, pardon my bias here)? Here's your chance to have a real effect on their record. Manage the Pirates for a game against St. Louis.

I mean, that's one less position you need to pay, and you turn it into a revenue stream. C'mon Pirates management, if you're truly for profit you'll run with this plan. (No payment needed for this idea, just let me manage a game and we'll call it even)
 
2010-10-22 01:25:33 PM  
400Babies: vinnydoz007: Any system has innate checks and balances. This undesirable position is indicative of that. No one wants to be the Pirates coach because whats the farking point? Dont get me wrong, its entirely possible a coach could come in and whip up the team and pull out a winning season, but when the front office is literally working against your success, again, whats the farking point. MLB needs to step in with this organization. force a sale or something. ITs disgraceful to run a sports team, for ONLY profit. They should at least be reasonable attempts to win something.

You know, maybe you're onto something. Go with the purely for profit idea and take it to the max. They could let a fan manage the team for one game - do it like a raffle. Auction it off, make being a fan of the Pirates a potentially truly interactive experience. 162 chances to pull in some extra revenue. Hate the Cardinals (Cubs fan, pardon my bias here)? Here's your chance to have a real effect on their record. Manage the Pirates for a game against St. Louis.

I mean, that's one less position you need to pay, and you turn it into a revenue stream. C'mon Pirates management, if you're truly for profit you'll run with this plan. (No payment needed for this idea, just let me manage a game and we'll call it even)



The funny part is, the evil money grubbing bastard who runs this franchise, has probably considered or even jokingly suggested this. Its clear they dont care who they hire, what they do, or how they do it. As long as they are cheap.
 
2010-10-22 01:40:01 PM  
I know just the guy the Pirates should get...

www.midwestsportsfans.com

But they might also need a good hitter, so how about this guy:

clubhousecancer.typepad.com

And perhaps a good pitcher:

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2010-10-22 11:05:28 PM  
Donnchadha: But they might also need a good hitter, so how about this guy:

How about a guy who can make a timely throw from the outfield instead?
 
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