I'm Batman.

"It was that Goddamn Dan Marino"

Yes, let us allow important advances in the diagnosis, treatment and player education of head trauma and a sudden and unexpected shift in popular opinion - which is primarily driven by the overblown coverage of the situation by a press hungry for controversy - lead to fundamental and unclear rule changes.

This is a good plan. Stick with this plan.

It is football folks. if you want a less dangerous game, there are others that you can play or watch. They have already sissified the game too much. Move onto something else.

Hey look, squirrel.

immrlizard: It is football folks. if you want a less dangerous game, there are others that you can play or watch. They have already sissified the game too much. Move onto something else.

Hey look, squirrel.

Headhunting is not part of football.

excellent comparision subby

/I lol'd
//wtf dood, dont be such a noob

It is football folks. if you want a less dangerous game, there are others that you can play or watch. They have already sissified the game too much. Move onto something else.

I'm a casual fan. I like to watch the game. I don't like watching dudes get carted off the field or seeing dudes knocked out cold for 10 minutes for something that can be prevented.

I know football is a violent sport, but I don't think that penalizing folks for vicious and sometimes cheap hits is going to fundamentally change the game.

It's a legtimate strategy!

I love to camp on a tactical insertion flare. Especially if it's in some hidden spot that I stumble upon. Snipe him off when he spawns, wait for him to set another flare and do it all over again.

I also lead with my head when I tackle large men.

All you bases are mine.

/In before the hazors...

I'm in ur base killin ur doods

well played
I lol'd

Maybe they should REMOVE some pads. The way these guys are suited up top, they're mini-missiles. Duck your head a bit and the helmet contacts the shoulder pads like a HANS device in NASCAR. Feel free to dive at anyone with 60-70% of your mass loaded into an unmovable plastic shell. Nevermind that if you come up under their chin, they're going to be lights out for the next hour...it's all part of the "game".

We might as well just Last Boy Scout this nonsense right now and let them exercise their "2nd Amendment remedies" instead.

Leading with your helmet is incredibly stupid. As it is possible to hurt yourself as bad or worse than the person you are hitting. The fact that Meriweather was stupid enough to not know what Bellichek was mad at him is a perfect illustration that there needs to be more education on what those hits can do. Kevin Everett? He delivered the hit that hurt him.

Bullshiat, the NFL isn't doing jack-shiat about this. They said they'd do the same thing in 2007 and never did.

Harrison should call their bluff by taking out Marshall.

In my day we didn't have these fancy helmets you wussies wear like it's high fashion. No, in my day, we wore leather hats to keep the turf from grinding our scalps and if we broke our face we'd wear the disfiguring scars like merit badges. Sure occasionally there were those who would be placed in comas from the concussions received, but they were the greatest hero's of our time. Those who gave their lives for the love of our sport. Now you pansy asspieces cover up in all this armor and still biatch and moan about getting hurt playing a man's sport. Hah! Get off the field Nancy and go knit a sweater. Let the real men play a real man's sport.


/My lawn, get off it

Unreal Tournament baby!!!! Gotta play after spawn-camping comment

Shadow Blasko: netweavr: Bullshiat, the NFL isn't doing jack-shiat about this. They said they'd do the same thing in 2007 and never did.

Harrison should call their bluff by taking out Marshall.

But ... We are Marshall... aren't we?

Well a plane crash is kinda like a missile.

After Marshall, maybe Harrison can go into a 'roid rage and take out Roethlisburger.

Coaches (the good ones, at least) teach you in farking high school not to lead with your head on a block or tackle. It's just a stupid farking thing to do. If it takes a fine/suspension to get these guys to not purposefully try to kill or maim someone, so be it.
Spearing is a penalty (in both football and lacrosse) for a reason.

Maybe things should change - but since the NFL is a private organization in which all the players are willing participants who are highly compensated for the risk, let the NFL and its players work it out however they want to. Why are there congressional hearings and testimony? Doesn't Congress have better things to worry about? You know, things that actually affect all of America and that actually fall under the enumerated powers of Congress under the Constitution?

Shadow Blasko: I'm tellin you... I have the solution.

You violate the rule as it was written in 2007, you sit out 2 games.

You also swap pay grades (and bonuses) with the person who is replacing you for that period.

Hit them where it hurts.

B-b-b-but, what about the 26 sports cars they have to pay insurance on?!

The only practical solution is to remove all safety gear and disallow contact. A player is deemed down when the opponent places two hands upon the ball carrier's torso.
If that gets out of hand, then they can substitute a hand touch with a removable flag of some sort.

ladodger34: It is football folks. if you want a less dangerous game, there are others that you can play or watch. They have already sissified the game too much. Move onto something else.

I'm a casual fan. I like to watch the game. I don't like watching dudes get carted off the field or seeing dudes knocked out cold for 10 minutes for something that can be prevented.

I know football is a violent sport, but I don't think that penalizing folks for vicious and sometimes cheap hits is going to fundamentally change the game.

And how, pray-tell, do you prevent it? The only way that I can see is to stop tackling altogether. Some talking head on Sunday said you have to aim lower, like the waist. Until there's more Theisman type injuries, or knees blown out, then what? How 'bout this. How 'bout we dress them all up in fancy tutus and let them dance party til someone falls down? Or, once the ball is caught (with no one touching anyone of course), they play a riveting round of patty cake?

/An above poster said it right, creating drama and controversy so there IS drama and controversy to report on
//In the grasp was full of suck, and you all know it

immrlizard: It is football folks. if you want a less dangerous game, there are others that you can play or watch. They have already sissified the game too much. Move onto something else.

Hey look, squirrel.

Heh, its a tougher game than its ever been. The players and larger and faster and hit with multiple times more energy than in past eras.

The rules are to simply allow players to survive and be able to do things after retirement like broadcast games and tie their shoes.

This thread is useless without reverse angle, slow motion replays of each horrific event....

Good job, Subby.

DaddyRat: Spearing is a penalty (in both football and lacrosse) for a reason

It's gone past that now though. Spearing is something completely different than flying in from across the field and perpetrating a trainwreck on someone where your facemask is in his ear. That's what they want to stop now. Tell me how that doesn't change the game when NO ONE goes full speed and EVERYONE lets up?

im in ur backfield
sackin ur qb

But unless something is done, future football Hall of Fame inductions will be brief because the players will be mumbling, drooling shells that will make Muhammed Ali or Michael J Fox look normal.

Just make the helmets shock you when they are used improperly. Works for dogs.

ahaha, well done, subby!

I'm more concerned about integrity of the refs on their calls. Headshots are getting bad, but overall just completely BS stuff happening.

And you know it's getting bad when the commentators (both "local" guys and the guys on Fox, CBS, etc) start questioning why things are happening.

The Dunta hit was clean as a whistle. That's why the refs used the cop out of "hitting a defenseless player" as the penalty and not any flag that means hit to the head.

Horrific Sports Illustrated's Peter King can't remember a more violent day of NFL action. "The games we watched Sunday seemed as violent a collection as I've seen," writes King.

They have to be making these opinions up because I refuse to believe these guys actually believe what they are typing. Was he not alive with Butkus, Spinkle, and Hardy were playing? People were afraid of these guys. Adults ... were afraid of these guys. They broke more noses and jaws and concussed more people in ONE GAME than the NFL has in a farking month.

The helmets should have airbags

/nothing
//except for headline appreciation

Some Texan: I love to camp on a tactical insertion flare. Especially if it's in some hidden spot that I stumble upon. Snipe him off when he spawns, wait for him to set another flare and do it all over again.

I also lead with my head when I tackle large men.

Not me. I destroy the flare and wait for them to come find me. It's harder to find flares than it is to find spawned people or get headshots. Still haven't gotten the "Darkbringer" challenge.

Baine: ladodger34: It is football folks. if you want a less dangerous game, there are others that you can play or watch. They have already sissified the game too much. Move onto something else.

I'm a casual fan. I like to watch the game. I don't like watching dudes get carted off the field or seeing dudes knocked out cold for 10 minutes for something that can be prevented.

I know football is a violent sport, but I don't think that penalizing folks for vicious and sometimes cheap hits is going to fundamentally change the game.

And how, pray-tell, do you prevent it? The only way that I can see is to stop tackling altogether. Some talking head on Sunday said you have to aim lower, like the waist. Until there's more Theisman type injuries, or knees blown out, then what? How 'bout this. How 'bout we dress them all up in fancy tutus and let them dance party til someone falls down? Or, once the ball is caught (with no one touching anyone of course), they play a riveting round of patty cake?

/An above poster said it right, creating drama and controversy so there IS drama and controversy to report on
//In the grasp was full of suck, and you all know it

People aren't concerned about knee injuries as they are the long-term mental health of players. When you are 40 and can't remember your son's name, then that's a problem. If you are 40 and can't walk without a limp? Not the same thing at all.

Also, nice false dilemma there: do we keep football the way it is, or change it to flag football? Yep, those are the only two choices.

Besides, from a football strategy standpoint it doesn't seem too common for a ballcarrier to cough up the ball after a big hit. Most fumbles seem to be the result of a strip tackle. So why are you hitting so hard? It's funny to see someone come in for a BOOM hit and whiff, when a simple wrap-up tackle would have stopped the guy.

lecavalier: The Dunta hit was clean as a whistle. That's why the refs used the cop out of "hitting a defenseless player" as the penalty and not any flag that means hit to the head.



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Falcon fan, eh?

Perhaps if these players had properly fitting headgear...