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2010-10-19 01:34:17 PM
jvl: YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS.

TYPING IN ALL CAPS DOESN'T MAKE YOUR POINT ANY MORE VALID.
 
2010-10-19 01:34:56 PM
Spoonfed'sBuddy: The 2 black guys acting like assholes that make it a big deal are Obama and Holder. The fact that they did not prosecute a pair of racist black thugs over voter intimidation aimed at white Americans is an affront to Democracy. Tacit approval of coercion is a far greater offense than running a TV ad asking people not to vote for politicians who clearly didn't live up to their campaign promises.

Repeating the same lies in the same thread do not make them somehow true.
 
2010-10-19 01:37:06 PM
Xivero: It does so by pointing out a glaringly obvious truth -- that the Democrats have had control of both houses of Congress and the White House and have done nothing on the issue of immigration reform.

That's a flat out lie and you know it.
 
2010-10-19 01:37:28 PM
DamnYankees: As I've said many times in many parts of this world...

One of the biggest problems in American politics is the completely inability of voters to actually blame the proper people for the problems in government. This is partly due to voter ignorance and party due to deliberate misinformation. But think about this ad. This ad is essentially telling Hispanics not to vote because Democrats didn't pass immigration reform.we don't restrict voting rights based on intelligence.


Much better.


I'm not saying people with an IQ over 140 would be better at selecting people to run the country, but they wouldn't vote for the mouth breathers most of you folks do.
 
2010-10-19 01:38:29 PM
... I finally got a chance to watch the video. Had they said "Don't vote for Democratic Incumbents." rather than "Don't vote", these videos would have gone entirely unnoticed. I suspect they used the phrase "don't vote" in order to gain publicity. If you're upset about this, pat yourself on the back, you've been trolled by Latinos For Reform.
 
2010-10-19 01:39:19 PM
Alphax: Spoonfed'sBuddy: The 2 black guys acting like assholes that make it a big deal are Obama and Holder. The fact that they did not prosecute a pair of racist black thugs over voter intimidation aimed at white Americans is an affront to Democracy. Tacit approval of coercion is a far greater offense than running a TV ad asking people not to vote for politicians who clearly didn't live up to their campaign promises.

Repeating the same lies in the same thread do not make them somehow true.


WTF are you talking about. It's a known fact that the thugs weren't prosecuted. Wake up!
 
2010-10-19 01:40:17 PM
Spoonfed'sBuddy: Alphax: Spoonfed'sBuddy: The 2 black guys acting like assholes that make it a big deal are Obama and Holder. The fact that they did not prosecute a pair of racist black thugs over voter intimidation aimed at white Americans is an affront to Democracy. Tacit approval of coercion is a far greater offense than running a TV ad asking people not to vote for politicians who clearly didn't live up to their campaign promises.

Repeating the same lies in the same thread do not make them somehow true.

WTF are you talking about. It's a known fact that the thugs weren't prosecuted. Wake up!


Right, they didn't do anything.
 
2010-10-19 01:40:50 PM
What if a pro-life Dem had come out with an ad before the '06 elections that pointed out that the Republicans could have tackled the abortion issue having had control of all three branches of government but they didn't even mention the word during that time and so why vote for them now? Same idea, it's true, and it would have worked to keep at least a few Republicans home.

If the Dems didn't want this talking point to be used against them they could have at least tried to pass an immigration reform bill, let the Republicans kill it, and said "we tried". But they were too gutless to do it so there you go.

These issues like abortion, immigration reform, social security reform, etc are all used by both sides to get people out to vote and then they sit on the issue when the have control? Why? So the issue will still be out there during the next election. It's how these parties control their voters.

Wake the fark up and start voting third party.
 
2010-10-19 01:40:51 PM
Tresser: /jesus i hope we get hit by a meteor soon.

Black hole sun, won't you come?
 
2010-10-19 01:42:03 PM
FlashHarry: this is farking obscene. just when you think republican scum can't get any worse, something like this pops up. farking un-American subhuman filth.

I am guessing you think MoveOn.org is a non-partisan pillar of truth?

The fact is both parties participate in this type of crap to spread lies and suppress voter turnout.

I am not trying to justify it, only noting it's a repeat of what we have witnessed from BOTH political parties for decades.

Ask yourself, how many times have your heard the Reps and Dems candidates/parties state, "You are throwing away your vote if you vote for a third party candidate." That suppresses voter turn out of people who support third party candidates, yet no one seems to complain.
 
2010-10-19 01:44:42 PM
JeffreyScott: Ask yourself, how many times have your heard the Reps and Dems candidates/parties state, "You are throwing away your vote if you vote for a third party candidate." That suppresses voter turn out of people who support third party candidates, yet no one seems to complain.

Very rarely, if ever, have I heard that said by a candidate.
 
2010-10-19 01:45:56 PM
thurstonxhowell: jvl: YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS.

TYPING IN ALL CAPS DOESN'T MAKE YOUR POINT ANY MORE VALID.


YES IT DOES!

t0.gstatic.com
 
2010-10-19 01:46:18 PM
JeffreyScott: I am not trying to justify it, only noting it's a repeat of what we have witnessed from BOTH political parties for decades.

joewilson.jpg

I've never before in my life heard a political ad tell people not to vote, and I'm 37.
 
2010-10-19 01:47:42 PM
Alphax: Spoonfed'sBuddy: The 2 black guys acting like assholes that make it a big deal are Obama and Holder. The fact that they did not prosecute a pair of racist black thugs over voter intimidation aimed at white Americans is an affront to Democracy. Tacit approval of coercion is a far greater offense than running a TV ad asking people not to vote for politicians who clearly didn't live up to their campaign promises.

Repeating the same lies in the same thread do not make them somehow true.


Umm, that post is 100% true. That is exactly what happened.
 
2010-10-19 01:48:52 PM
shastacola: Republican Black Guy: LOL typecal libs to jump all up in the thread and cry cuz some LATINOES had the nerves to point out that the dems and libs sold them a false bill of goods. Cry all yall want but the ad show a good point.

Then why not produce a commercial aimed at getting Latios to vote republican. Please explain why the GOP would be more interested in getting people to not vote at all.


Why is that if I search a page for the word "libs" or "liberals", almost every other word in said post misspelled?
 
2010-10-19 01:50:38 PM
TimonC346: shastacola: Republican Black Guy: LOL typecal libs to jump all up in the thread and cry cuz some LATINOES had the nerves to point out that the dems and libs sold them a false bill of goods. Cry all yall want but the ad show a good point.

Then why not produce a commercial aimed at getting Latios to vote republican. Please explain why the GOP would be more interested in getting people to not vote at all.

Why is that if I search a page for the word "libs" or "liberals", almost every other word in said post misspelled?


because anyone resorting to the use of such juvenile pejoratives is probably an idiot.
 
jvl
2010-10-19 01:51:05 PM
thurstonxhowell: jvl: YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS.

TYPING IN ALL CAPS DOESN'T MAKE YOUR POINT ANY MORE VALID.


But I bolded it too!
 
2010-10-19 01:52:38 PM
jvl: thurstonxhowell: jvl: YOU ARE ALL IDIOTS.

TYPING IN ALL CAPS DOESN'T MAKE YOUR POINT ANY MORE VALID.

But I bolded it too!


IT SHOULD BE DONE THIS WAY!!1!!!
 
2010-10-19 01:52:53 PM
Spoonfed'sBuddy: shastacola: Spoonfed'sBuddy: shastacola: Phaid: Absolutely unprecedented!

Yes, because 2 fake black panthers going to a precint on their own to cause trouble is exactly the same thing as a commercial paid for by the GOP.

Good point. Threatening voters by openly carrying weapons at the polls while wearing attire associating them with the "kill Whitey" crowd is far more serious than a few tv ads. The lack of prosecution on the part of the Obama administration is far more disgusting than any political ad in existance.

Do you understand the difference between a national party paying for commercials to supress the vote and 2 black guys acting like assholes?

The 2 black guys acting like assholes that make it a big deal are Obama and Holder. The fact that they did not prosecute a pair of racist black thugs over voter intimidation aimed at white Americans is an affront to Democracy. Tacit approval of coercion is a far greater offense than running a TV ad asking people not to vote for politicians who clearly didn't live up to their campaign promises.


Tha case fell apart because they couldn't find any white voters a the polling station who were intimidated. This is one of many dog whistle campaigns the GOP have perpetuated. "See, our black president is siding with the scary black guys". Are you aware that it was the Bush administration who downgraded this case from a criminal to a civil case?
 
2010-10-19 01:53:47 PM
JeffreyScott: FlashHarry: this is farking obscene. just when you think republican scum can't get any worse, something like this pops up. farking un-American subhuman filth.

I am guessing you think MoveOn.org is a non-partisan pillar of truth?

The fact is both parties participate in this type of crap to spread lies and suppress voter turnout.

I am not trying to justify it, only noting it's a repeat of what we have witnessed from BOTH political parties for decades.

Ask yourself, how many times have your heard the Reps and Dems candidates/parties state, "You are throwing away your vote if you vote for a third party candidate." That suppresses voter turn out of people who support third party candidates, yet no one seems to complain.


Both sides are bad. Interesting. I guess that means I should vote Republican.
 
2010-10-19 01:55:15 PM
xria: TheJoeY: Tatsuhiko: I'm not sure you can call anything but white people a minority in places like California or Pennsylvania.

Minority isn't necessarily gauged by population, but by political influence/power.

So would you say blacks in South Africa under apartheid were a minority? Weird definition.


Like I said, minority isn't necessarily gauged by population, but by political influence/power.

/don't know much about apartheid
 
2010-10-19 01:56:24 PM
Richard Flaccid: Because democrats alway use honest campaign tactics.

Whatever. Nothing to see here, move along.


Bowf sids are bort!

/so....
 
2010-10-19 01:58:21 PM
So wait - does this increase the likelihood of dems being voted out? It does?

Then I'm all for it.

/alinsky would LOVE this idea
//fight fire with fire
 
2010-10-19 01:59:41 PM
cchris_39: Where does it tell latinos not to vote?

Looks like it's telling all of the duped supporters to not vote.


You're absolutely right, it's meant for ALL disillusioned voters and not aimed at Hispanics in any way EVEN THOUGH ONLY THE SPANISH-LANGUAGE VERSION IS BEING RUN

Congratulations, you are officially now a complete tool who will defend ANYTHING your party does no matter how vile
 
2010-10-19 02:00:23 PM
keenerb: So he's saying don't vote for Democratic candidates if they don't represent you adequately on key issues.

IF the message is wrong, isn't the opposing message even MORE disgusting? You should vote for Democratic candidates REGARDLESS of how poorly they represent you?

It's a slimy commercial in a very dirty campaign season.

Shouldn't even be newsworthy.


I think the issue most people are having is that it is not saying "Don't vote for the Democrats", it's saying "Don't Vote!"
Shouldn't it be touting what the Republicans can do for them? Oh wait. You can't even tell that it's being funded by Republican money.

/surprised it didn't end with, "If you must vote, remember to get out early Wednesday and beat the lines."
 
2010-10-19 02:01:08 PM
shastacola: Spoonfed'sBuddy: shastacola: Spoonfed'sBuddy: shastacola: Phaid: Absolutely unprecedented!

Yes, because 2 fake black panthers going to a precint on their own to cause trouble is exactly the same thing as a commercial paid for by the GOP.

Good point. Threatening voters by openly carrying weapons at the polls while wearing attire associating them with the "kill Whitey" crowd is far more serious than a few tv ads. The lack of prosecution on the part of the Obama administration is far more disgusting than any political ad in existance.

Do you understand the difference between a national party paying for commercials to supress the vote and 2 black guys acting like assholes?

The 2 black guys acting like assholes that make it a big deal are Obama and Holder. The fact that they did not prosecute a pair of racist black thugs over voter intimidation aimed at white Americans is an affront to Democracy. Tacit approval of coercion is a far greater offense than running a TV ad asking people not to vote for politicians who clearly didn't live up to their campaign promises.

Tha case fell apart because they couldn't find any white voters a the polling station who were intimidated. This is one of many dog whistle campaigns the GOP have perpetuated. "See, our black president is siding with the scary black guys". Are you aware that it was the Bush administration who downgraded this case from a criminal to a civil case?


The government already won by default. The thugs didn't show for court. DOJ lawyers came out and testified that they were flat out told voter intimidation can only be pursued if it is white people intimidating blacks. Instead, the guys were simply told to stay away from polling stations. Sure showed them.

You are dishonest if you think that white guys in KKK uniforms would be treated the same. This is a simple example of "its only racist when white people do it". Obama would personally be leading the charge if it were a couple of dummies in KKK outfits just doing the exact same nightstick waving and racist talk.
 
2010-10-19 02:01:31 PM
Magorn: Congratulations, you are officially now a complete tool who will defend ANYTHING your party does no matter how vile

Officially? Damn, the wheels of bureaucracy turn slowly. He earned it long ago.
 
2010-10-19 02:01:33 PM
TheJoeY: xria: TheJoeY: Tatsuhiko: I'm not sure you can call anything but white people a minority in places like California or Pennsylvania.

Minority isn't necessarily gauged by population, but by political influence/power.

So would you say blacks in South Africa under apartheid were a minority? Weird definition.

Like I said, minority isn't necessarily gauged by population, but by political influence/power.

/don't know much about apartheid


//don't know much about the French I took.
 
2010-10-19 02:05:14 PM
DamnYankees: RandyRick: In my ignorant youth, I voted Republican several times. Words cannot express the sick-to-my-soul feeling that has left me with. With each passing year it grows worse.

I voted for Bush. In 2004! Imagine how I feel.


I supported Bush until 2008 and realized my misguidance after he left.

I feel so ashamed...
 
2010-10-19 02:15:04 PM
The Republicans are more vicious and more dirty in their campaigning. The democrats are kind of pussies in comparison - it's a little sad. My favorite was that word campaign that managed to convince everyone a Vietnam vet wasn't patriotic enough.
 
2010-10-19 02:16:48 PM
What some googling said about "Latinos for Reform:

It's a GOP front group that was around in 2008 as well.

A Republican Latino group with ties to the Bush Administration is airing ads alleging that Obama puts African Americans before Latinos and Africa before Latin America.

The chairman of Latinos For Reform is Robert Deposada, who has served in the leadership of the Hispanic Business Roundtable and The Latino Coalition, and was formerly director of Hispanic affairs for the Republican National Committee. In 2001, President Bush appointed Deposada to a commission to advance the administration's plan for privatizing Social Security [...]

The treasurer of Latinos For Reform is high-powered Republican lobbyist Juan Carlos Benitez, whose firm brags that he "has exceptionally close ties to the White House." Benitez was a Pioneer - he raised more than $100,000 for the 2004 re-election campaign - and President Bush named him special counsel for immigration-related unfair employment practices. Benitez also raised between $50,000 and $100,000 this election cycle for McCain.
 
2010-10-19 02:18:02 PM
keenerb: Crotchrocket Slim: keenerb: So he's saying don't vote for Democratic candidates if they don't represent you adequately on key issues.

IF the message is wrong, isn't the opposing message even MORE disgusting? You should vote for Democratic candidates REGARDLESS of how poorly they represent you?

It's a slimy commercial in a very dirty campaign season.

Shouldn't even be newsworthy.

It seems like your standard political attack ad to me too but bear in mind we're on Fark, bored, and this has been a pretty obnoxious political season.

Roy Barnes and Nathan Deal have had some of the most disgusting ads I can recall ever hearing on the radio. I'm not voting for anybody for governor.


I can understand that sentiment. When Saxby Chambliss ran against Max Cleland, Chambliss slandered and maligned Cleland. He even lied about at least one of his endorsements claiming he had the endorsement of a veterans' group that he did not have. (Sorry, I can't find a citation to back up my memory.) Chambliss was a draft dodging, lying, civilian utterly ignorant of the true costs of war. But Cleland had voted to support authorization to go to war in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Cleland; who understands more intimately, than I pray most people ever will, exactly what too many of our soldiers would suffer; had betrayed his brothers in uniform for the political expediency of appearing tough on terrorism. I did vote for most offices, but not that one. I intended to, but when I got to the voting station, I just couldn't cast a vote for either of those men.
 
2010-10-19 02:19:00 PM
Commander Lysdexic: Bowf sids are bort!

/so....


So park in in Scratchy Lot?
 
2010-10-19 02:22:50 PM
Thunderpipes: shastacola: Spoonfed'sBuddy: shastacola: Spoonfed'sBuddy: shastacola: Phaid: Absolutely unprecedented!

Yes, because 2 fake black panthers going to a precint on their own to cause trouble is exactly the same thing as a commercial paid for by the GOP.

Good point. Threatening voters by openly carrying weapons at the polls while wearing attire associating them with the "kill Whitey" crowd is far more serious than a few tv ads. The lack of prosecution on the part of the Obama administration is far more disgusting than any political ad in existance.

Do you understand the difference between a national party paying for commercials to supress the vote and 2 black guys acting like assholes?

The 2 black guys acting like assholes that make it a big deal are Obama and Holder. The fact that they did not prosecute a pair of racist black thugs over voter intimidation aimed at white Americans is an affront to Democracy. Tacit approval of coercion is a far greater offense than running a TV ad asking people not to vote for politicians who clearly didn't live up to their campaign promises.

Tha case fell apart because they couldn't find any white voters a the polling station who were intimidated. This is one of many dog whistle campaigns the GOP have perpetuated. "See, our black president is siding with the scary black guys". Are you aware that it was the Bush administration who downgraded this case from a criminal to a civil case?

The government already won by default. The thugs didn't show for court. DOJ lawyers came out and testified that they were flat out told voter intimidation can only be pursued if it is white people intimidating blacks. Instead, the guys were simply told to stay away from polling stations. Sure showed them.

You are dishonest if you think that white guys in KKK uniforms would be treated the same. This is a simple example of "its only racist when white people do it". Obama would personally be leading the charge if it were a couple of dummies in KKK outfits just doing the exact same nightstick waving and racist talk.


Armed Minute Men show up at largely hispanic precints. Were they charged with anything? No.

http://mediamatters.org/print/blog/201007010023
 
2010-10-19 02:27:35 PM
El Morro: That's a flat out lie and you know it.

Well, enlighten me, then. What exactly have the Democrats done on immigration reform? They announced a plan in April that they backed away from in August, and . . .

Brubold: If the Dems didn't want this talking point to be used against them they could have at least tried to pass an immigration reform bill, let the Republicans kill it, and said "we tried". But they were too gutless to do it so there you go.

Precisely.
 
2010-10-19 02:32:19 PM
I don't care if minorities vote. I WOULD like to see the voting age raised to, i dunno, 35 or so. Young people are gullible idiots. The average 18 year old is dumber than Helen Keller with a ball gag in her mouth.

Anything they see on the internet is instantly cool. If the internet told them to jump off a bridge they'd do it.
 
2010-10-19 02:33:03 PM
thurstonxhowell: Crotchrocket Slim: It seems like your standard political attack ad

I have never, ever seen a political attack ad tell me not to vote at all.


Ultimately, that's the aim of any attack ad strategy though- notice how attack ads tear their opponent down but never build up the candidate putting the ad out themselves. This one is just particularly insubtle in how it delivers its message.

In any case, anyone who would be swayed by this and doesn't exercise their right to vote is a fool in any case.
 
2010-10-19 02:35:23 PM
Lunaville: keenerb: Crotchrocket Slim: keenerb: So he's saying don't vote for Democratic candidates if they don't represent you adequately on key issues.

IF the message is wrong, isn't the opposing message even MORE disgusting? You should vote for Democratic candidates REGARDLESS of how poorly they represent you?

It's a slimy commercial in a very dirty campaign season.

Shouldn't even be newsworthy.

It seems like your standard political attack ad to me too but bear in mind we're on Fark, bored, and this has been a pretty obnoxious political season.

Roy Barnes and Nathan Deal have had some of the most disgusting ads I can recall ever hearing on the radio. I'm not voting for anybody for governor.

I can understand that sentiment. When Saxby Chambliss ran against Max Cleland, Chambliss slandered and maligned Cleland. He even lied about at least one of his endorsements claiming he had the endorsement of a veterans' group that he did not have. (Sorry, I can't find a citation to back up my memory.) Chambliss was a draft dodging, lying, civilian utterly ignorant of the true costs of war. But Cleland had voted to support authorization to go to war in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Cleland; who understands more intimately, than I pray most people ever will, exactly what too many of our soldiers would suffer; had betrayed his brothers in uniform for the political expediency of appearing tough on terrorism. I did vote for most offices, but not that one. I intended to, but when I got to the voting station, I just couldn't cast a vote for either of those men.


The ads, they have worked.
 
2010-10-19 02:35:32 PM
Bill Frist: cchris_39: Where does it tell latinos not to vote?

Looks like it's telling all of the duped supporters to not vote.

It is a Spanish language ad running on Univision where a guy shouts "don't vote" in spanish several times. Is this really a question?


From the spanish version of the ad:

"SÍ, ¡NO VOTES!, ESCUCHASTES (sic) BIEN"
("YES, DO NOT VOTE!, YOU HEARDS (sic) IT RIGHT")


/"Escuchastes"? I don't think I heard that right.
 
2010-10-19 02:41:35 PM
Already some backlash from the hispanic community.

KTNV.COM (new window)
 
2010-10-19 02:52:18 PM
FranciscoBizzaro: I don't care if minorities vote. I WOULD like to see the voting age raised to, i dunno, 35 or so. Young people are gullible idiots. The average 18 year old is dumber than Helen Keller with a ball gag in her mouth.

Since gullibility is a factor, I'm willing to compromise if an age limit is also put in place at the other end. Like no older than 65 is allowed to vote either. ok? *snark*
 
2010-10-19 02:52:46 PM
Jackson Herring: Spoonfed'sBuddy: The lack of prosecution on the part of the Obama administration is far more disgusting than any political ad in existance.

Oh jesus christ. Go fark yourself already.


Settle down Beavis. I don't think it's a big deal if a political party asks a group known to support their adversaries to simply not vote. If the ads were targeting an ideological, religious group, or some other arbitrary cross-section of American society, nobody would give a flying fark.

Nobody is being threatened or intimidated here. Demographics are used all the time in commercial marketing / ad campaigns and nobody gives a crap. This is not a big deal.
 
2010-10-19 02:54:51 PM
FranciscoBizzaro: I don't care if minorities vote. I WOULD like to see the voting age raised to, i dunno, 35 or so. Young people are gullible idiots. The average 18 year old is dumber than Helen Keller with a ball gag in her mouth.

How do I know you don't know a goddamn thing about voting habits?

Ashelth: I'm not saying people with an IQ over 140 would be better at selecting people to run the country, but they wouldn't vote for the mouth breathers most of you folks do.

Anything one standard deviation is fine [110.] You don't have to go to 1% of the population. Not to mention high IQ frequently means low common sense.
 
2010-10-19 02:55:02 PM
Lunaville: keenerb: Crotchrocket Slim: keenerb: So he's saying don't vote for Democratic candidates if they don't represent you adequately on key issues.

IF the message is wrong, isn't the opposing message even MORE disgusting? You should vote for Democratic candidates REGARDLESS of how poorly they represent you?

It's a slimy commercial in a very dirty campaign season.

Shouldn't even be newsworthy.

It seems like your standard political attack ad to me too but bear in mind we're on Fark, bored, and this has been a pretty obnoxious political season.

Roy Barnes and Nathan Deal have had some of the most disgusting ads I can recall ever hearing on the radio. I'm not voting for anybody for governor.

I can understand that sentiment. When Saxby Chambliss ran against Max Cleland, Chambliss slandered and maligned Cleland. He even lied about at least one of his endorsements claiming he had the endorsement of a veterans' group that he did not have. (Sorry, I can't find a citation to back up my memory.) Chambliss was a draft dodging, lying, civilian utterly ignorant of the true costs of war. But Cleland had voted to support authorization to go to war in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Cleland; who understands more intimately, than I pray most people ever will, exactly what too many of our soldiers would suffer; had betrayed his brothers in uniform for the political expediency of appearing tough on terrorism. I did vote for most offices, but not that one. I intended to, but when I got to the voting station, I just couldn't cast a vote for either of those men.


What REALLY got me was Nathan Deal's commercial "accusing" Roy Barnes of wanting to offer counseling to gay high school students.

That really pissed me off. High school is tough enough for a straight kid, and if there's any group of people in this entire country who need counseling it's probably going to be a gay teenager.

I don't want my son to be gay, I'm sure very few fathers DO, but if it happens I hope he knows he'll get a big hug (and probably a "No shiat, sherlock") when he tells us.

I mean seriously, how detestable is that? To use confused, isolated, vulnerable kids as a campaign tool?
 
2010-10-19 02:57:43 PM
Xivero: Why all the outrage, apart from the fear that the ad might be effective? The ad is a fairly straightforward exercise in free speech. It tries to discourage a specific subgroup of Democratic voters to not vote Democratic, which is clearly something the Republicans, who are the ones responsible for the ad, have a vested interest in doing.

And it does this in the absolutely most typical Republican way you can imagine: not by offering a solution, not by offering a better answer, not by coming up with something that will help these people, but by encouraging them to just not do anything. The party of "no" strikes again.
 
2010-10-19 02:59:41 PM
Alphax: Already some backlash from the hispanic community.

KTNV.COM (new window)


Love the Republican response: that it shows that the Hispanic community is frustrated, that frustration is towards Reid, so they need to vote in November, but make sure it's for Angle.
 
2010-10-19 03:00:23 PM
Xivero: Brubold: If the Dems didn't want this talking point to be used against them they could have at least tried to pass an immigration reform bill, let the Republicans kill it, and said "we tried". But they were too gutless to do it so there you go.

Precisely.



If people were complaining about the "they haven't accomplished anything" message you would have a point. Voting is an duty. You owe it to every service member who ever fought for this country. Go fark yourself.
 
2010-10-19 03:03:31 PM
keenerb: Lunaville: keenerb: Crotchrocket Slim: keenerb: So he's saying don't vote for Democratic candidates if they don't represent you adequately on key issues.

IF the message is wrong, isn't the opposing message even MORE disgusting? You should vote for Democratic candidates REGARDLESS of how poorly they represent you?

It's a slimy commercial in a very dirty campaign season.

Shouldn't even be newsworthy.

It seems like your standard political attack ad to me too but bear in mind we're on Fark, bored, and this has been a pretty obnoxious political season.

Roy Barnes and Nathan Deal have had some of the most disgusting ads I can recall ever hearing on the radio. I'm not voting for anybody for governor.

I can understand that sentiment. When Saxby Chambliss ran against Max Cleland, Chambliss slandered and maligned Cleland. He even lied about at least one of his endorsements claiming he had the endorsement of a veterans' group that he did not have. (Sorry, I can't find a citation to back up my memory.) Chambliss was a draft dodging, lying, civilian utterly ignorant of the true costs of war. But Cleland had voted to support authorization to go to war in both Afghanistan and Iraq. Cleland; who understands more intimately, than I pray most people ever will, exactly what too many of our soldiers would suffer; had betrayed his brothers in uniform for the political expediency of appearing tough on terrorism. I did vote for most offices, but not that one. I intended to, but when I got to the voting station, I just couldn't cast a vote for either of those men.

What REALLY got me was Nathan Deal's commercial "accusing" Roy Barnes of wanting to offer counseling to gay high school students.

That really pissed me off. High school is tough enough for a straight kid, and if there's any group of people in this entire country who need counseling it's probably going to be a gay teenager.

I don't want my son to be gay, I'm sure very few fathers DO, but if it happens I hope he knows he'll get a big hug (and probably a "No shiat, sherlock") when he tells us.

I mean seriously, how detestable is that? To use confused, isolated, vulnerable kids as a campaign tool?


No worse than the Roy Barnes commercial saying Nathan Deal wants the court to be able to further victimize rape victims.

Don't pay attention to the farking ads. Research the candidates.
 
2010-10-19 03:04:32 PM
Xivero: Maybe they would have done so, or maybe they could have been persuaded to compromise if the Democrats had made a genuine attempt to present a bipartisan bill.

That's the funniest farking thing I've read on Fark in all of 2010.
 
2010-10-19 03:05:44 PM
Outrage!! In other news, political ads espouse questionable opinions (lie) all the time, if you're stupid enough to vote for them (or not) thinking they'll make it better (or not), well that's on you.
 
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