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IAMBOB		2003-06-24 12:39:01 PM

UNACCEPTABLE: Me going to that Farking university

Acceptable: Farkers holding a kegger at the deans place!! w/unnaceptable attire

Faethe		2003-06-24 12:40:06 PM

This is a private secular college, they can do as they wish. Damn all the parents who force their kids to attend colleges like this, by refusing to help with tuition at another college.

my sister went to lynchburg collge, in the same town as liberty. Said they came home late one night to find a bunch of liberty kids praying in front of their dorm. Praying for what?, they asked. Praying for the souls of lynchburg students, whose souls were in danger.

And I would wave my Living Dead doll at them and say its far too late for that. Mabye one of them would scream?

I would seriously get booted day A in a place like that. I have a tendency to wear guys jeans, like Kiks, and other sloppy nasty over big stuff with spike tails and stuff. I have an extensive collection of Emily tops and Dr. Martins everything. I'm not into piercing because I am a chickenshiat, but I do love those spike wrist/armbands that are coming back into it. Oh yeah, and I have a foul mouth, in like 3 languages, and have a tendency to die my hair festive colors for grins, especially glow in the dark shiat. While I'm not gay, I have tons of dyke buddies, flamer pals, and many subversive intellectual types.

Well whatever. Places like that bring out the rebel in me. Tough shiat for them.

Bonzy20		2003-06-24 12:40:31 PM

lindseyp		2003-06-24 12:40:37 PM

There are only 2 groups of people I really, really hate: Those intolerant of others beliefs, and christians.

MrWright		2003-06-24 12:40:44 PM

Luke: </I>.

jay_vee		2003-06-24 12:40:47 PM

Ytram:- Yeah I know. I bet they make you wear trousers too. Bastards. How are you supposed to let the air flow? Genitals are on the outside of the body for a reason, you know.

Nabob		2003-06-24 12:40:50 PM

For the record, I think the dress code is a bit silly. One thing to understand, however, is that the dress code is grounded in the school's interpretation of the Bible. In 1 Tim 2:9, Paul (although some scholars dispute that Paul wrote this letter) states that he wants women in the church to adorn themselves with proper clothing, modestly and discreetly. The university is most likely using this as their guideline. I'm not suggesting that this is the correct interpretation nor am I suggesting that it is incorrect. Merely that this is the doctrine of the university and where it (probably) came from.

Ouroborus		2003-06-24 12:40:56 PM

I will forever be known as Taylor

like in Planet of the Apes?

Duyogurt		2003-06-24 12:41:48 PM

Ouroborus

Never saw Planet of the Apes. Am I going to have to resort to my last name?

nrvous		2003-06-24 12:42:40 PM

From the Liberty University website section entitled "Respect While Dating."

"After dusk, students should not be alone with an individual of the opposite sex in any unlighted area such as the ball fields, parking lots, parked cars, ravine or other wooded areas, etc. This is considered improper social behavior."

Damn, no ravines. The cunning bastards have thought of everything.

PAgent		2003-06-24 12:43:07 PM

"..and the truth shall set you free..."

Ytram		2003-06-24 12:43:22 PM

jay_vee

Actually, not trousers, sweat pants. They go so nicely with my oxford shirts!

CapnWacky		2003-06-24 12:44:16 PM

If you think something should be changed so they cannot have a dress code mandating their shoulder strap width, then that is intolerant, because they are not limiting YOU unless you CHOOSE to go that school.

You do realize that it's the religious right that constantly tries to enact legislation pushing their beliefs on others, right? No one here cares what a private school does, but crap like this is constantly being echoed by those in public office who feel the same way.

Duyogurt		2003-06-24 12:44:40 PM

MrWright

I know how to do it, but in my rage, I just keep screwing it up.

I_Like_2_FVCK		2003-06-24 12:44:54 PM

"A penis larger than 3 inches is also unacceptable at the university."

Not-a-Girl		2003-06-24 12:45:25 PM

Hair cannot go over ears, collar or eyebrows

MrWright		2003-06-24 12:45:48 PM

You do realize that it's the religious right that constantly tries to enact legislation pushing their beliefs on others, right?

Everyone does that. Everyone.

Cyberluddite		2003-06-24 12:46:22 PM

Holy shiat, check out this page from the Dean of Men. It's part of the Dean's "pr0n=evil" pages that others have quoted from above. This page consists of excerpts from a interview with serial killer Ted Bundy, and implies that he became a killer because he found some "dirty magazines" when he was 13 years old.

Based on this logic, the majority of the people posting in this thread are obviously potential serial killers.

BritneysSpeculum		2003-06-24 12:46:36 PM

I_Like_2_FVCK
"A penis larger than 3 inches is also unacceptable at the university."

But what about those black guys on the no do-rag page?

HappyDaddy		2003-06-24 12:46:43 PM

Some people believe that immodesty, sex out of wedlock, vulgar language, etc. are human failings (sins, if you like). Others seem to believe that they are to be celebrated as liberating. Religion tends to inform the former. Nihilism tends to inform the latter.

I would rather stake the future of the human race on imperfectly religious people than on perfectly nihilistic people.

Bukharin		2003-06-24 12:46:51 PM

Jerry Falwell is a dick.

Ytram		2003-06-24 12:46:58 PM

What freaking legislation are you talking about?

Re-enabling prayer in school? That would be completely optional.

Perhaps the teaching of creation in school? Both sides would be represented as they were in my school, people can make their own choices.

Just a couple of examples, where intolerance is not attempting to be legislated, but more choices. Give me some examples of some of this wacko religious right legislation...

SecretGoldfish		2003-06-24 12:48:02 PM

Republicans.

Robobagpiper		2003-06-24 12:48:11 PM

CatchrNdRy
Um... please demonstrate some reading comprehension skills.

I said neither of the things you attribute to me.

Thuper Ranger		2003-06-24 12:48:14 PM

Oh man, i should totally go up there, i bet thoes girls are totally freaky in bed. Repressed church girls are totally the best in bed!

red_dragon60		2003-06-24 12:48:26 PM

Check this out: http://www.liberty.edu/StudentAffairs/index.cfm?PID=1400

Remember folks, if you're doing anything more than holding hands with your loved one, you might be taken over by carnal thoughts right there! Since you cannot resist temptation, we have instituted rules to stop you!

dizzie		2003-06-24 12:48:28 PM

Guy Innagorillasuit		2003-06-24 12:48:42 PM

HappyDaddy

Some people believe that immodesty, sex out of wedlock, vulgar language, etc. are human failings (sins, if you like). Others seem to believe that they are to be celebrated as liberating. Religion tends to inform the former. Nihilism tends to inform the latter.

Religion and nihilism aren't polar opposites.

CapnWacky		2003-06-24 12:48:42 PM

MrWright: The difference is between the promotion of individual freedom as long as it does not interefere with the rights of others vs. a communitarian standard enforced upon others. Both are beliefs, but which is intolerant?

chad_beaverwood		2003-06-24 12:48:56 PM

Hey CtchrNdRy -

I think Christianity is stupid.

I think this dress code is stupid.

I have the liberty to say that.

If I am wrong about any of this, you compassionate, all-loving god will smite me real good.

None of this would have anything to do with you, if you would merely turn the other cheek.

DblDad		2003-06-24 12:49:13 PM

Nabob,

I submitted the article, and I can tell you that it wasn't to make fun of Christianity -- and it certainly wasn't out of intolerance. As a Unitarian, that's not my style. There's no beef with the religious principles underlying their rationale for the code. You and jay_vee collectively nailed it -- the dress code is silly, and going so far as to have mannequins displaying said dress codes is just inherently riotous.

Duyogurt		2003-06-24 12:49:14 PM

Bukharin

If he is all dick, then it would be a six-foot dick.

Unacceptable to his standards and all women that inhabit the earth.

Sal_Paradise		2003-06-24 12:49:20 PM

From the Pensacola Christian College dorm rules page:

"You may not wipe "boogers" on the wall. This is being cracked down on."

Nabob		2003-06-24 12:50:16 PM

Interesting how discussing the dress code at a Christian university turned into (for some) a political statement about the religious right. Of course, I'm willing to admit that many of the Liberty graduates are likely to fall into that category if the only thing they are ever taught at school is some formula on how to be a good Christian by following denomination-specific rules rather than growth in true faith.

JaxGator75		2003-06-24 12:50:51 PM

I agree that they should be able to implement whatever type of mental torture they deem as necessary. People pay good money to send their kids there and they can do what they want.

I find it offensive that some people loudly proclaim me as evil and hell-bound for my beliefs and my outward appearance, so I try to refrain from doing the same to otehrs. Now if they ask me, I'll tell them some things they don't want to hear... Thankfully, they never do...

MrWright		2003-06-24 12:51:01 PM

The difference is between the promotion of individual freedom as long as it does not interefere with the rights of others...

Socialism interferes with my rights.

keylock71		2003-06-24 12:51:26 PM

The campus is creepy. I wasn't warned about the place before I showed up. So as typical I showed up in all black clothes, black trench coat, sunglasses and kneehigh leather boots with skullhead buckles. You couldn't have cleared a path through the halls for me faster even if you had a machine gun.

Isn't that outfit suppose to come with a sword or some sort of cape?

buster_hymen		2003-06-24 12:51:49 PM

Is incest cool at this university? Considering they had 2 sons, there must have been some major incest going on at the Adam and Eve household

LesPhilky		2003-06-24 12:52:07 PM

Y'all think this is farked up? You should read the Bob Jones handbook.

Cione		2003-06-24 12:52:26 PM

I completely agree they're private, they have the right to dress as they want, etc.

That being said... wierdos.

I went to Sweet Briar, a women's college not far down the road from Liberty. We had no guys, but did we date the Liberty guys since they were closest? No, we did not. At least, I don't know anyone who did. I remember some Liberty guys came over once during my freshman year and ripped a sink out of the wall. Hello, repressed!

I'm told Jerry Fallwell once made a speech to his beloved Liberty students in which he admonished the men to stay away from us-- because Sweet Briar girls were "whores on the hill" and Randolph-Macon Women's College girls were "sluts in the city". This could be urban legend, but especially after viewing that site, it's pretty believable.

Robobagpiper		2003-06-24 12:53:13 PM

Nabob
The difference is, they're not pilloried because they'r Christians, in general. They're not pilloried for what they profess to believe.

They're subject to ridicule because they're hypocrites: they act one way, and preach another.

Christianity is the majority religion in the part of the world that reads FARK. Therefore, it stands to reason that the vast majority of those who pretend to instruct morals in others will be clerics of the Christian faith, and thus among them will be the vast majority of hypocrites.

It's not persecution, just demographics.

(And I'll get around to your email eventually. Carrying on religious discussions in private is not a high priority for me).

HolyMackeral		2003-06-24 12:53:22 PM

Liberty University is creepy, I agree... but don't forget an equally creepy school in my hometown... Oral Roberts University - http://www.oru.edu/.

/can't do html

Rosalea		2003-06-24 12:53:23 PM

This reminds me of my highschool in Kentucky where we were allowed to wear shorts if they were a certain length. Overly zealous teachers would measure the distance between the hem and our kneecaps and make us go home and change if there was more than a three inch gap. That was back in '91.... today, try to find a pair of shorts that aren't cut up to THERE.

had that back when I was in school too. In fact in 6th grade (in NC) I got sent home for wearing a dress that showed part of my back. this was my easter dress that I'd worn to church the week before without even a second glance. But it was considered too risque for school. And in highschool they'd measure our skirt and short lengths all the time. I took to wearing jeans and tshirts every day, still haven't lost that habit.

buster_hymen		2003-06-24 12:53:27 PM

flame on

EmilBeaulieauIsTheGodOfNoise		2003-06-24 12:53:41 PM

super stupid and boring.

just like religion which is mind control.

HappyDaddy		2003-06-24 12:54:20 PM

Gutinagorillasuit

Religion and nihilism aren't polar opposites.

Didn't say they were. But, they are pretty close. I said the two types of people tend to be informed by...

I stand by that.

pointystick		2003-06-24 12:54:26 PM

I wanna hear Falwell profess the superiority of his unique brand of Christianity over ultra-conservative Islam. I wanna hear this.

Nabob		2003-06-24 12:54:46 PM

DblDad
Apologies if I assumed to much. I am amused by the dress code as well.

STRYPERSWINE		2003-06-24 12:55:06 PM

ok. I went to a conservative Christian university. It should be noted that we all almost unainmously think Falwell is an asshat there.

However, regarding the modesty issue, man this came up every single semester. There are a lot of good looking girls there and whenever some goofy Bible major saw them, he would go on a rant on how it's the girls' Christian duty not to make the Christian guys lust.

the girls would say "that's your problem, stop looking at us" and it would go around and around.

The problem is that Christianity is about putting others before yourselves, but these people were always "ok YOU put me before yourself and dress modestly". "No, YOU put ME before yourself by not dictating my wardrobe".

Every semester like clockwork.

WorldCitizen		2003-06-24 12:55:12 PM

Of course I am intolerant of certain things. I am intolerant of the KKK. I'm intolerant of fundies (zealots) of any religion. I'm intolerant people who think their opinion on world affairs is golden when they only get their news from watching one TV channel that happens to agree with their own beliefs. I'm intolerant of bigots who hate gays, blacks, Asians or anyone else simply for how they were born (although I am intolerant of some of the cultural aspects of some groups, but that was not how they were born, those are just shiatty cultural traits).

However, all of these people have the right to be dumbasses. I believe you have the right to be an intolerant fundie who thinks everyone else is going to hell (especially if they were a slit above the knee). I believe you have the right to be a bigotted KKK dumbass. I believe you have the right to be a dumbass and hate gay people.

I don't think anyone is arguing against their right to have a dress code like this at a private school. But it is quite acceptable for making fun of their apparent fear of the human body. They have every right to have irrational fears, however.

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