SpaceyCat: So physically attacking someone who dresses differently than you is the way to go? Damn... I've been doing it all wrong then!


Umm....


He said that his client, who was not present in court, had left the country in disgust with no intention of returning.

Obviously her tactics worked.

She's refusing to accept brutal, idiotic, religious oppression. Good for her. Maybe the rest of you will realize cultural tolerance is fine, but the inhuman treatment towards women shouldn't be tolerated out in public.

This is ridiculous. Attacking people for religious expression and making it illegal are the exact same shiat that they hate Islam for.

I don't get why people say that it is...er..."offensive" to women to wear those stupid things. What one person does is their business and theirs alone. So they want to wear an ugly headcover? Who cares? A true nation of human rights would respect that.

Diogenes: Somacandra: FTFA: In an interview with Le Parisien before the trial, Mrs Ruby explained: "I find it unacceptable that someone should be wearing a niqab in this country of human rights.

Wow. And here I thought violently assaulting people, ripping their clothes off, scratching and biting them in front of their friends and children was unacceptable. Guess she sure showed me!

She's lucky the other chick didn't rip her tits off for this.

The "this country of human rights" kills me, too. In a country of true human rights, you can dress however you choose. France takes the "if you can't get along we're taking everyone's rights away" approach. They equalize by making differences illegal.

That is what I had originally thought, than I figured out in the world of crazy, the human rights meant that the woman with the hijab did not HAVE to wear it and could become independant from the male dominated world that forced her to. By beating her ass, French lady was freeing women everywhere from male domination.

Hickory-smoked
Calmamity: Of course what this woman did was wrong, but I have to admit that I am having a bit of trouble working up a good head of righteous indignation at France for saying, essentially, "Sorry, folks, but the public oppression of women goes against what we're trying to be about and you can't do it here."

Except for the most part, the women wearing traditional covering don't consider it public oppression, but rather a way of defining their personal space.

Exactly. You would rob them of their agency because, from YOUR perspective, the veil is offensive. Guess where you should move?

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Kill the mentally ill: She's refusing to accept brutal, idiotic, religious oppression. Good for her. Maybe the rest of you will realize cultural tolerance is fine, but the inhuman treatment towards women shouldn't be tolerated out in public.

I don't see how a woman willingly wearing a headpiece in public, not even in the company of another man, is "inhuman" in the least. If a guy hits his girl in public, whether she's wearing a headpiece or not, then arrest his ass, but if a girl wants to wear some silly outfit to follow her religion, then let her.

Kill the mentally ill: She's refusing to accept brutal, idiotic, religious oppression. Good for her. Maybe the rest of you will realize cultural tolerance is fine, but the inhuman treatment towards women shouldn't be tolerated out in public.

How is it inhuman treatment to wear a head covering?

Also, no wonder France has so many issues with minorities rioting over there. Forced assimilation isn't a great idea, maybe they should look into America's melting pot ideals.

PersistantRash: Hilariously related



work damn link WORK!

damnit I can never get links to work on Fark.

username101: Kill the mentally ill: She's refusing to accept brutal, idiotic, religious oppression. Good for her. Maybe the rest of you will realize cultural tolerance is fine, but the inhuman treatment towards women shouldn't be tolerated out in public.

I don't see how a woman willingly wearing a headpiece in public, not even in the company of another man, is "inhuman" in the least. If a guy hits his girl in public, whether she's wearing a headpiece or not, then arrest his ass, but if a girl wants to wear some silly outfit to follow her religion, then let her.

Her religion is the oppressor, how do you not understand that? You need to look right in their eyes and tell them, what you're doing is wrong and only perpetuates the idea that women are inferior.

Kill the mentally ill: the inhuman treatment towards women shouldn't be tolerated out in public.

You're talking about someone's outfit, there, Gandhi.

I find it uncomfortable to see ass cheeks and nipple tassles everywhere on Gay Pride parade day, but I don't try get violent over it. Grown ups should be able to handle coexisting with outfits (and the lifestyles they represent) they don't approve of. FFS.

TheJoe03: maybe they should look into America's melting pot ideals.

yea, that worked out real great for us



/there's only one solution

alzahra: Grown ups should be able to handle coexisting with outfits (and the lifestyles they represent


Okkkay

I was in London a few weeks ago and these women in the black fabric stormtrooper costumes with the long flowing full-body coverings make getting on and off the subway an annoying task sometimes.

Freedom of religion, I get it. You don't feel like it oppresses you; I don't really care how you feel about it if it's your choice.

But most of these women require 2-3 times the space of a normal person, which is a big deal in crowded places like subways. I was always afraid that I was going to accidentally step on the 3 miles of fabric trailing behind her and then get charged with a hate crime.

Kill the mentally ill: username101: Kill the mentally ill: She's refusing to accept brutal, idiotic, religious oppression. Good for her. Maybe the rest of you will realize cultural tolerance is fine, but the inhuman treatment towards women shouldn't be tolerated out in public.

I don't see how a woman willingly wearing a headpiece in public, not even in the company of another man, is "inhuman" in the least. If a guy hits his girl in public, whether she's wearing a headpiece or not, then arrest his ass, but if a girl wants to wear some silly outfit to follow her religion, then let her.

Her religion is the oppressor, how do you not understand that? You need to look right in their eyes and tell them, what you're doing is wrong and only perpetuates the idea that women are inferior.

That argument fails because ANYONE could claim that ANY religion or style of life is 'wrong,' 'offensive,' or any other negative term.

SpaceyCat:

So physically attacking someone who dresses differently than you is the way to go? Damn... I've been doing it all wrong then! I now expect any males that I find attractive to strip for me! No more asking or paying money for it! Your clothing is unacceptable! STRIP!


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FTFA: "For me, wearing the veil is an act of aggression; I felt attacked as a woman," she said.

As a woman, I feel this French moran should STFU and learn to be tolerant of other cultures and religions. I see women in veils at the grocery store and don't go nuts.

France's law banning the burka and other face-covering garments comes into force early next year. It will mean anyone, including Muslim tourists, can now be fined for wearing the garment or ordered to follow a citizenship course.

Holy. Farking. Shiat. WTF is wrong with France where they see another culture as a threat and ban it? What's next, rounding them all up and sending them to work camps?

/seriously France, the religious bigotry is not cool

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work damn link WORK!

damnit I can never get links to work on Fark.

ARRRRG Fark always mangles any links I post.

okay, so since biatch is in the name of the article, because the name of the group is niqabiatch, it can never appear as a working link on Fark. If you want to see the best Hijab protest of all time, then you want to google niqabiatch. They had a video on Fark in the video tab a while back.

http://www.fark.com/cgi/comments.pl?IDLink=5667512&hl=Protesting-French-burka-b a n-Using-a-niqab-And-hotpants-(Audio-may-be-Not-safe-for-work)

Maybe links TO fark work on fark

I'd attack that womanhood.

username101: Kill the mentally ill: username101: Kill the mentally ill: She's refusing to accept brutal, idiotic, religious oppression. Good for her. Maybe the rest of you will realize cultural tolerance is fine, but the inhuman treatment towards women shouldn't be tolerated out in public.

I don't see how a woman willingly wearing a headpiece in public, not even in the company of another man, is "inhuman" in the least. If a guy hits his girl in public, whether she's wearing a headpiece or not, then arrest his ass, but if a girl wants to wear some silly outfit to follow her religion, then let her.

Her religion is the oppressor, how do you not understand that? You need to look right in their eyes and tell them, what you're doing is wrong and only perpetuates the idea that women are inferior.

That argument fails because ANYONE could claim that ANY religion or style of life is 'wrong,' 'offensive,' or any other negative term.

And all are, perspective depending.

/so mind your own

username101: That argument fails because ANYONE could claim that ANY religion or style of life is 'wrong,' 'offensive,' or any other negative term.

So you're claiming that what they force women to do isn't wrong?

I shall leave this here..

I should have done this to a kid hanging out in the grocery store parking lot a couple of months ago.

She was wearing a hoody - in July - with hood up. I was thinking WTF is this a terrorist as I parked. I saw her later in the store with hood down and I could see why she liked to cover up. Ugly dreadlocks in ponytails with way too many facial piercings.

I live in a small town and freaks like this stand out. She wasn't as funny as the guy I saw who looked exactly like Jamie Kennedy in Malibu's Most Wanted. Bonus he was with probably the only black guy in town.

Kill the mentally ill: username101: That argument fails because ANYONE could claim that ANY religion or style of life is 'wrong,' 'offensive,' or any other negative term.

So you're claiming that what they force women to do isn't wrong?

How do you know they're forced?

Jeanne Ruby, a retired 63-year-old English teacher told police that she "snapped" when she spied the woman from the United Arab Emirates, whose whole face was covered, in a home furnishings shop in Paris' chic 15th arrondissement.

I'd just like to point out that I'm very tired and read that as, "whose whole face was covered in home furnishings" which made me laugh.

Wow, that stupid biatch of a teacher sure freed the shiat out of her.

She sure defended this woman's womanhood by ripping off the clothes she voluntarily chose to wear. She made sure the woman knew she was free by biting her.

Don't you see how free you are, stupid Arab biatch? You were attacking her as a woman by exercising your right to choose how to dress yourself -- as a woman. But it was male oppression, so when this teacher took away your freedom to choose, man, the world was a better place.

fark France. A gentler, guillotine-free la Terreur for anybody not in lockstep with French "principles" of freedom. I'm surprised the article isn't dated Tridi, 23 Vendémiaire CCXIX.

Kill the mentally ill: username101: That argument fails because ANYONE could claim that ANY religion or style of life is 'wrong,' 'offensive,' or any other negative term.

So you're claiming that what they force women to do isn't wrong?

By those terms, Christianity is just as oppressive to women. The Bible says that women are second class citizens, and yet no one preaches against it.

Only abusers abuse women. It's not a religious argument, it's a humanitarian argument.

Do you realize that many Jewish women also wear coverings? I don't see you screaming about their rights.

/I know, I know, I'm feeding a troll
//can't help it, I hate stupid people

You know who else liked to attach the French?

Kill the mentally ill: username101: That argument fails because ANYONE could claim that ANY religion or style of life is 'wrong,' 'offensive,' or any other negative term.

So you're claiming that what they force women to do isn't wrong?

STRAW MAN!

Disappointing FARK, this is one of those stories which can only be covered by The Daily Mail. Mainly because of the fair-minded nature of the comments below.

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She should consider moving to the US. The Tea Party could set her up with a congressional campaign.

PersistantRash:
okay, so since biatch is in the name of the article, because the name of the group is niqabiatch, it can never appear as a working link on Fark. If you want to see the best Hijab protest of all time, then you want to google niqabiatch. They had a video on Fark in the video tab a while back.

Funny thing about that niqabiatch video, though -- they don't do the "niquab & hotpants" routine in or near any mosques, only French government buildings. Ever wonder why?

FTFA; "For me, wearing the veil is an act of aggression; I felt attacked as a woman," she said.


No, that would be when several panzer divisions roll across the border. Gee, lady, short memory much?

what_now: "For me, wearing the veil is an act of aggression;

Because your farking retarded. You don't think I wanted to rip those stupid farking zip up roman sandals off stupid chick's feet all summer? Of course I did, because they look terrible, and anyone wearing them should be ashamed of themselves.

BUT I DIDN'T!

I would have to go with Uggs on that, especially in the summer with a skirt. Of course, then sweaty stinky feet would be exposed, sooo...hmmm...

If head and face coverings are banned in France, what do beekeepers wear? May nuns still wear wimples? May a person with a bad cough wear a mask over the nose and mouth to prevent infecting others, but only if they are not also wearing sunglasses and a hat? Does France have a law as hilariously specific as the laws in some counties in Florida defining the ass-crack in legal language, so that bans on thongs may be upheld?

dead_dangler: You know who else liked to attach the French?

What I don't get, is if the crazy french lady does think this garb is so oppressive to women, why did she beat the woman wearing it? Shouldn't she go find her husband or imam or something and beat them? She's actually blaming the person she perceives as a victim which I find a thousand times more offensive than anything else in the story.

There are three major cultures at war today. Neo-Liberal States, Classic traditional states and Patriarchally controlled states. The burka babes are totally beholden to the men who run the Patriarchs. When you think of cute little Geishas with their bound feet and submissive sex slave status, you think of patriarchal Japan, that is before the Neo-Liberal axis beat the misogynist out of them. Muslims are the last Patriarchs to be dispensed with. Should be interesting considering it took nuclear bombs to beat the male dominated good thang enjoyed by the shinto Japanese.

The classical traditional states are not going to listen to neo-liberals because the classicals are too close to history to trust the John Lennonites. This is why you saw the Serbs burning down the house rather than let gays parade in their capital. The traditionalists are the Russians who obliterated the Chechen muslims who refused to integrate.

We don't get along boys and girls. The grand experiment known as Sarajevo in America is going to fail. Badly. The french getting ahead of the curve, that's all. They've seen how the Patriarchs roll and they aren't too terribly impressed with the prospects for peaceful integration. But I guess we'll see.