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2010-10-14 08:31:02 AM
PDX Ghost Hunter: Did somebody say ghost hunt?

That device is actually called Frank's Box.
When I was in my early teens my grandfather called our home phone a week or less after he died. Myself, my brother and my mom all spoke to him. Well actually listened, it was a one-sided conversation. I know all the "normal" people will scoff at this but until you experience something like that you have no understanding of what it's like. I have had 3-4 unexplained things happen to me just after a relative or friend died. I do paranormal investigations here in Portland and am pretty sure that most of the non-believers would either be too scared to do it or run out screaming in the middle of the night. It's actually pretty interesting and a lot of fun.


Just the other day, I was scrounging around for change to get a soda and wouldn't you know! The last 15 cents I needed was right there on my desk! It was a miracle!
 
2010-10-14 08:33:25 AM
"Days before the accident, Carol told her tomboy sister Beth, 11, she'd teach her how to put on makeup later." - So Beth was a lesbian.
 
2010-10-14 08:47:54 AM
PDX Ghost Hunter: Solion: God damn how I hate these farkers.

Turning peoples grief into a sideshow. Allot of these are people who cannot handle with the pressing sadness due to their loss. It is not a sane thing, In fact it probly is one of the most insane moments of your life to loose someone you love.


You missed "allot." It's really two words: "a lot."

Also, in other threads, "can not" should be "cannot" and "their" should be "they're."

I figured as long as we were on a roll calling people stupid might as well go for it. Those were just the ones I saw in a quick skim of the responses.
 
2010-10-14 08:48:25 AM
*sigh* Sometimes, I hate my city (even though I just moved here, and my previous two towns' newspapers were just as bad if not worse). Is it too much to ask for some respectable journalism here for once?
 
2010-10-14 08:49:35 AM
Gigawhuh: PDX Ghost Hunter: Solion: God damn how I hate these farkers.

Turning peoples grief into a sideshow. Allot of these are people who cannot handle with the pressing sadness due to their loss. It is not a sane thing, In fact it probly is one of the most insane moments of your life to loose someone you love.

You missed "allot." It's really two words: "a lot."

Also, in other threads, "can not" should be "cannot" and "their" should be "they're."

I figured as long as we were on a roll calling people stupid might as well go for it. Those were just the ones I saw in a quick skim of the responses.


Don't leave out "I could care less."
 
2010-10-14 08:55:11 AM
Isildur: Plus God ends up coming off as a dick.

God IS a dick.
 
2010-10-14 08:55:23 AM
PDX Ghost Hunter: picture

Do you have a drawing explanation of "allot"?
 
2010-10-14 08:57:37 AM
Solion: God damn how I hate these farkers.

Turning peoples grief into a sideshow. Allot of these are people who cannot handle with the pressing sadness due to their loss. It is not a sane thing, In fact it probly is one of the most insane moments of your life to loose someone you love.

Then farkers with special radios and woo woo swoop in during the most insane and horrible event in your existence, With messages from beyond!. only 79.99 per minute callers standing by!

Monstrous and evil they prey on the fear and sadness of a loved one gone for a few minutes of fame, Or worse. there are many stories about people who have lost their entire savings to people like this.

Don't blame the victim. That sort of pain should not be mocked. However the guys with the "radio of the dead"

Flamethrower... 4 1/2 seconds is all I want ...flamethrower


not that it matters but the kids died more than 3 years ago.
 
2010-10-14 09:00:51 AM
PDX Ghost Hunter: Did somebody say ghost hunt?

That device is actually called Frank's Box.
When I was in my early teens my grandfather called our home phone a week or less after he died. Myself, my brother and my mom all spoke to him. Well actually listened, it was a one-sided conversation. I know all the "normal" people will scoff at this but until you experience something like that you have no understanding of what it's like. I have had 3-4 unexplained things happen to me just after a relative or friend died. I do paranormal investigations here in Portland and am pretty sure that most of the non-believers would either be too scared to do it or run out screaming in the middle of the night. It's actually pretty interesting and a lot of fun.


Interesting.

I too have had many "unexplained" things happen to me over the years so I think I really do understand a bit about what that is like...

I think the only difference is that I ALSO understand that human perception is quite limited and can misunderstand input; that we have fantastic imaginations that we can't always distinguish from reality; that our minds actively alter what we [think] we experience and remember; that we easily fall for dozens of logical fallacies in our reasoning...

These unfortunate, ignorant people in the article were swindled by those who either understand the above and are cruel/selfish or are just as ignorant to it and mislead themselves into believing they are not (see: Dunning-Kruger effect (new window))
 
2010-10-14 09:08:39 AM
haddie: PDX Ghost Hunter: picture

Do you have a drawing explanation of "allot"?


s3.media.squarespace.com
 
2010-10-14 09:14:14 AM
There are more things in heaven and earth, Farkers, than are dreamt of in your Internets.
 
2010-10-14 09:18:29 AM
cavedonkey:

I think the only difference is that I ALSO understand that human perception is quite limited and can misunderstand input; that we have fantastic imaginations that we can't always distinguish from reality; that our minds actively alter what we [think] we experience and remember; that we easily fall for dozens of logical fallacies in our reasoning...


I agree to a point. However, three of us all hearing my grandfathers very unique voice on a phone, seeing the field behind our house flattened while the tall grass on each side of it was standing straight up, a convection oven going crazy in the middle of the night and other experiences where I wasn't the only one seeing it happen while it happened wasn't imagination. Did the people involved in this ghost box scenario receive compensation in any way? I mean other than getting some limited media attention? If a family will claim their son was carried off in a balloon while he's hanging out in the attic, anything is possible.
 
2010-10-14 09:25:31 AM
This reminds me of the toy the guys on Ghost Adventures have--it spits out random words and they try to figure out what the ghosts are trying to say. Hilarity!
 
2010-10-14 09:26:29 AM
PDX Ghost Hunter: Did somebody say ghost hunt?

That device is actually called Frank's Box.
When I was in my early teens my grandfather called our home phone a week or less after he died. Myself, my brother and my mom all spoke to him. Well actually listened, it was a one-sided conversation. I know all the "normal" people will scoff at this but until you experience something like that you have no understanding of what it's like. I have had 3-4 unexplained things happen to me just after a relative or friend died. I do paranormal investigations here in Portland and am pretty sure that most of the non-believers would either be too scared to do it or run out screaming in the middle of the night. It's actually pretty interesting and a lot of fun.


That's freaky and really cool at the same time.
My mom and step dads house makes some strange noises/smells.
1. The house has been in the family since it was built around 1870-1890.
2. Their dinning room used to be the kitchen and every so often you can smell a cake being baked in that room.
3. My brother stayed over one night to have the door open and slam repeatedly at him when seeing my step dads father in the door doing it. Funny thing is the house doesn't give you that creepy feeling. Where as my house was built in the 60's, no one died in the house, but my great grandma's ashes are still in the house. Anyway I feel someone chasing me up from the basement and into my room even before great grandma died.

/Ok that was way longer than I thought this would be.
//Would love for someone to do an investigation in my mom's house.
 
2010-10-14 09:26:48 AM
The spirits also asked her if her refrigerator was running and if she had Prince Albert in the can.
 
2010-10-14 09:34:33 AM
myimagine18:
/Ok that was way longer than I thought this would be.
//Would love for someone to do an investigation in my mom's house.


If you live in the Portland/Vancouver area we would be happy to. Can't really afford to travel to do it until we get picked up by the Travel Channel or A&E and totally sell out.
 
2010-10-14 09:38:40 AM
mcgrimus: There are more things in heaven and earth, Farkers, than are dreamt of in your Internets.

Nuh uh.
Rule 34.
 
2010-10-14 09:43:47 AM
The Turkey Farm.
Hi ho.
 
2010-10-14 09:57:21 AM
Shadyman: Just dropping this off here...

Shouldn't that read, "I Want To Bereave"?
 
2010-10-14 10:27:26 AM
PDX Ghost Hunter: myimagine18:
/Ok that was way longer than I thought this would be.
//Would love for someone to do an investigation in my mom's house.

If you live in the Portland/Vancouver area we would be happy to. Can't really afford to travel to do it until we get picked up by the Travel Channel or A&E and totally sell out.


:( Unfortunately I live across the country in NY. I did find local paranormal investigators. I'm considering joining for fun but, I don't know if my schedule will allow it.http://www.liparanormalinvestigators.com/
 
2010-10-14 12:22:53 PM
Farkshower1972: Isildur: Plus God ends up coming off as a dick.

God IS a dick.


Only if he exists as a personal god. I'm agnosdick.
 
2010-10-14 12:25:21 PM
Coelacanth: I haven't seen one of those things for ages.
And no, they don't work.


Get our hopes up and then crush them, why don't you?!?
 
2010-10-14 12:28:03 PM
StrangeQ: Just the other day, I was scrounging around for change to get a soda and wouldn't you know! The last 15 cents I needed was right there on my desk! It was a miracle!

Shoot. Just yesterday I was going to get a soda and I had 15 cents in my pocket but when I looked it was gone. Wonder where it went?
 
2010-10-14 12:36:01 PM
myimagine18:
:( Unfortunately I live across the country in NY. I did find local paranormal investigators. I'm considering joining for fun but, I don't know if my schedule will allow it.http://www.liparanormalinvestigators.com/


It's a little spendy to get started on and also very time consuming. My website shows the basic equipment we use and just for the basics you're looking at between $300-$500 and that's with a used night shot camcorder. Once you add in a DVR, wireless IR cameras etc. the cost starts to go way up.
 
2010-10-14 12:44:57 PM
PDX Ghost Hunter: haddie: PDX Ghost Hunter: picture

Do you have a drawing explanation of "allot"?

alotofladybugs.jpg


Don't forget "alot". (new window)
 
2010-10-14 12:51:56 PM
TSDGuy: StrangeQ: Just the other day, I was scrounging around for change to get a soda and wouldn't you know! The last 15 cents I needed was right there on my desk! It was a miracle!

Shoot. Just yesterday I was going to get a soda and I had 15 cents in my pocket but when I looked it was gone. Wonder where it went?


God stole your change and gave it to StrangeQ, who happened to need it more. You should feel blessed that you are an important part of His plan.
 
2010-10-14 01:32:55 PM
myimagine18: That's freaky and really cool at the same time.

I agree! And I'm curious what he said. I saw a similar story on Bio (I think) on Celebrity Ghost Stories, or maybe it was My Ghost Story, I can't remember. Phone call from someone who had died, mostly a 1-sided call, but the person said she was 100% certain that's who it was, he said something about everything being fine, he's OK, not to worry, etc.

Hard to believe that could happen, and it seems very odd that a dead person would somehow place a phone call (?) but the story was cool anyway.
 
2010-10-14 01:37:43 PM
PDX Ghost Hunter: I agree to a point. However, three of us all hearing my grandfathers very unique voice on a phone...

I just remembered another story like this I heard. Also on Bio, also on Celebrity Ghost Stories. Was a black guy but can't remember who. Anyway he had a childhood friend who was involved in crime, etc. who was shot and died. Anyway this guy, the celebrity, was at home with his girlfriend when the phone rang, and it was his dead friend, screaming terribly, saying 'help me, help me!' and similar. The celebrity guy said there were horrible sounds in the background and this guy was just screaming 'they're going to take me' or something, I forget, but anyway then his voice kinda faded away and the line went dead.

Again, seems very odd that a dead person would place a phone call somehow, and the guy seemed unsure if he could even believe it, but the callers words were very clear, he was sure it was the dead guy, etc. Very strange.
 
2010-10-14 01:45:45 PM
PDX Ghost Hunter - hooketh me up. I'm moving up to Portland next month and would love to get my ghost hunting back on. I used to Ghost Hunt in Indiana and loved it.

facebook.com/lvl0rg4n
 
2010-10-14 01:56:06 PM
lvl0rg4n: PDX Ghost Hunter - hooketh me up. I'm moving up to Portland next month and would love to get my ghost hunting back on. I used to Ghost Hunt in Indiana and loved it.

facebook.com/lvl0rg4n


You male or female? We have an all male group like GAC. This may sound weird but that's just the way we decided to do things.
 
2010-10-14 02:36:07 PM
So glad I devoted 12 years of my 24 here on Earth to delivering this news source. I still read it everyday while sitting on the toilet.
 
2010-10-14 09:41:58 PM
Isildur: Get our hopes up and then crush them, why don't you?!?

When you see nice, but farking dumb people being taken by frauds with these gizmos, that's when your hopes get crushed.
 
2010-10-14 10:52:29 PM
PDX Ghost Hunter: Ladybugs.

That is not a lot of ladybugs. That is a loveliness.

/Of ladybugs.
 
2010-10-14 11:14:52 PM
Ok, I think I have by far the best 'dead guy on the phone' story. It involves the disembodied voice of a famous dead guy speaking to me.
Here's the story. Hubby and I, being the movie honchos for a small sci-fi con in the Midwest, knew that a lot of the fans like the work of a certain animator/actor/director/special effect (new window). We contacted him to get a couple of movie posters for the charity auction (ok, and one for us). We heard nothing from him for several months, and then hubby reported that he had seen an LA paper article detailing the great man's death.
So one night, hubby was working a very late shift. We had a power outage that night. I suddenly found myself sitting all alone in a dark and now very creepy apartment.
BEEEEEEP! The answering machine let out a wail, and an eerie, strangely familiar voice broke the silence. "Yeah, hey guys, I'm sorry about not calling you sooner. I'm getting those posters out to you..." I sat pinned to the couch trying desperately not to wet myself. The power came back on a couple of minutes later.
The first thing hubby did when I told him was to play that particular Weird Al CD. He then called Jitlov's number, and actually got hold of the guy - completely alive and well.
One reanimated animator still owes me a new pair of pants.
 
2010-10-15 12:11:04 AM
I once had a CB radio that I could talk to Ronald Reagan with.
 
2010-10-15 06:56:14 AM
Lyllydd: Hubby and I, being the movie honchos for a small sci-fi con in the Midwest, knew that a lot of the fans like the work of a certain animator/actor/director/special effect (new window).

I wasn't aware that Geocities still made web sites.
 
2010-10-15 07:23:29 AM
fusillade762: I once had a CB radio that I could talk to Ronald Reagan with.

It's Rich Little`
 
2010-10-15 02:14:28 PM
PDX Ghost Hunter: Lyllydd: Hubby and I, being the movie honchos for a small sci-fi con in the Midwest, knew that a lot of the fans like the work of a certain animator/actor/director/special effect (new window).

I wasn't aware that Geocities still made web sites.



Hah, it does have that era's look. I miss that late 90s era web in some ways, though. The fill-in-the-blanks Facebook and Wordpress era may be more navigable and clean-looking, and have fewer distracting GIFs and idiotic cursor trails, but there was something charmingly individualistic about many of those crappy MIDI-file-plagued, marquee-element-infested pages. Browsing was more of an adventure. You never new what color background or text would greet your eyes after the next click. Even smart people mixed their personal and professional lives in odd ways; an eminent laboratory's homepage might link to some pictures of a researcher's dogs and wav clips of him playing the ukelele. Many homepage authors offered big list of websites --a good number of them obscure-- that they had discovered. (Heck, before web-crawling search engines, link pages, discussion listservs, and manually updated directory sites like Yahoo and Lycos were the main way you found new sites.) And so on -- everything was a lot less uniform and predictable. Also, there was Hamsterdance, and what kind of soulless creature didn't enjoy Hamsterdance?

I suppose mySpace might retain some of the amateurish aspects, but I've almost entirely avoided that site because the sparkly clutter, almost illiterate content, and overall crappiness of the stuff there exceed even my tolerances.

I'm still irritated that geocities was taken down. A quick check shows I still have 52 geocities URLs in my bookmarks file (a list carried over from old computer to new computer over the years, comprising 4438 URLs by now). Yahoo could have at least given more time to the emergency efforts to archive it.
 
2010-10-15 02:20:06 PM
ack, ambiguous syntax there.

(Heck, before web-crawling search engines, [seperation] link pages, discussion listservs, and manually updated directory sites like Yahoo and Lycos were the main way you found new sites.)

ftfm.
 
2010-10-15 02:31:27 PM
Isildur: PDX Ghost Hunter: Lyllydd: Hubby and I, being the movie honchos for a small sci-fi con in the Midwest, knew that a lot of the fans like the work of a certain animator/actor/director/special effect (new window).

I wasn't aware that Geocities still made web sites.


Hah, it does have that era's look. I miss that late 90s era web in some ways, though. The fill-in-the-blanks Facebook and Wordpress era may be more navigable and clean-looking, and have fewer distracting GIFs and idiotic cursor trails, but there was something charmingly individualistic about many of those crappy MIDI-file-plagued, marquee-element-infested pages. Browsing was more of an adventure. You never new what color background or text would greet your eyes after the next click. Even smart people mixed their personal and professional lives in odd ways; an eminent laboratory's homepage might link to some pictures of a researcher's dogs and wav clips of him playing the ukelele. Many homepage authors offered big list of websites --a good number of them obscure-- that they had discovered. (Heck, before web-crawling search engines, link pages, discussion listservs, and manually updated directory sites like Yahoo and Lycos were the main way you found new sites.) And so on -- everything was a lot less uniform and predictable. Also, there was Hamsterdance, and what kind of soulless creature didn't enjoy Hamsterdance?

I suppose mySpace might retain some of the amateurish aspects, but I've almost entirely avoided that site because the sparkly clutter, almost illiterate content, and overall crappiness of the stuff there exceed even my tolerances.

I'm still irritated that geocities was taken down. A quick check shows I still have 52 geocities URLs in my bookmarks file (a list carried over from old computer to new computer over the years, comprising 4438 URLs by now). Yahoo could have at least given more time to the emergency efforts to archive it.


It was an amazing time to be surfing. Remember web awards and the horrible icon/giant thumbnail links that almost every web site displayed proudly? Like some made up/nobody cares or has ever heard of it before "award" you could place on your page for the simple price of linking it back to their site meant you were in for some fantastic content.

Not to mention almost all of those web award links had the classic blue box around them indicating a link without having to go through all the trouble of putting your mouse cursor over it to see if it turned from a pointer into a hand.

Animated gifs of spinning skulls and of course....wait for it....wait for it.....the page hit counter at the bottom of every page on the Internet.

Internet in the 90's, when real men used Notepad to hand code their web pages and all your older relatives had their own Geocities site with pictures of their cat that took 4 minutes for the page to load. Also enjoyed how people liked to put the entire content of their site on one page that scrolled down for 3 minutes.
 
2010-10-15 05:21:28 PM
PDX Ghost Hunter: It was an amazing time to be surfing. Remember web awards and the horrible icon/giant thumbnail links that almost every web site displayed proudly? Like some made up/nobody cares or has ever heard of it before "award" you could place on your page for the simple price of linking it back to their site meant you were in for some fantastic content.

Not to mention almost all of those web award links had the classic blue box around them indicating a link without having to go through all the trouble of putting your mouse cursor over it to see if it turned from a pointer into a hand.

Animated gifs of spinning skulls and of course....wait for it....wait for it.....the page hit counter at the bottom of every page on the Internet.

Internet in the 90's, when real men used Notepad to hand code their web pages and all your older relatives had their own Geocities site with pictures of their cat that took 4 minutes for the page to load. Also enjoyed how people liked to put the entire content of their site on one page that scrolled down for 3 minutes.


Ha!
But let's not forget the dripping blood horizontal line, that flaming Diablo GIF, "Under Construction"^ and "e-mail me!"^ GIFs (warning: those links not recommended for people with epilepsy), the webrings, early table-based layouts later giving way to avalanches of IFRAMEs, sites with a different MIDI for every page, coountless sites with horrible-bit-rate soundclip WAVs from The Simpsons, Babylon 5, The X Files, and other shows, "This page best viewed with Netscape 4 and 800x600 resolution or higher", icon and clipart sites...
 
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