I had Snu Snu:
Honestly, if you do have kids they should be taken away from you immediately. You've proven that you're not mature enough or have enough patience to be a parent. You'll end up beating or neglecting your child somehow and steps need to be taken right away to insure that doesn't happen. That is a goddamn shame.

I'm amazed that you can reach that conclusion just off of a post on a message board. You must tell us how you did it.

uncletogie: I had Snu Snu: The jerkoffs in this thread make me want to take my 8 month old and my 3 year old on a coast to coast plane trip. I'll give each of them a red bull and a megaphone just to piss off all the self-righteous smug assholes. God you people piss me off, get the fark over yourselves hipsters.

1/10. Little too over the top.

Dial it back and I can guarantee you'll get bites.

I wasn't trolling actually, granted I'm not really going to do that but some of the people here really pissed me off. My mother passed away when my daughter was 14 months old and she lived across the country. Should I have called my dad and sisters and told them "Sorry I can't make it to Mom's funeral, but Jilly would bug some people on the plane and they're very very special and their peace and quiet is more important than being with my family and saying goodbye to my mother. You understand right?"

btw: "I had Snu Snu: The jerkoffs in this thread make me want to take my 8 month old and my 3 year old on a coast to coast plane trip. I'll give each of them a red bull and a megaphone just to piss off all the self-righteous smug assholes. God you people piss me off, get the fark over yourselves hipsters."

And you think *you're* good parental material? Maybe they'll take your kids away after they come for mine?

I *cannot* believe I'm the first one to post this:



Fark, I am dissapoint.

I had Snu Snu: uncletogie: I had Snu Snu: The jerkoffs in this thread make me want to take my 8 month old and my 3 year old on a coast to coast plane trip. I'll give each of them a red bull and a megaphone just to piss off all the self-righteous smug assholes. God you people piss me off, get the fark over yourselves hipsters.

1/10. Little too over the top.

Dial it back and I can guarantee you'll get bites.

I wasn't trolling actually, granted I'm not really going to do that but some of the people here really pissed me off. My mother passed away when my daughter was 14 months old and she lived across the country. Should I have called my dad and sisters and told them "Sorry I can't make it to Mom's funeral, but Jilly would bug some people on the plane and they're very very special and their peace and quiet is more important than being with my family and saying goodbye to my mother. You understand right?"

Are you a single mother?

ShadowkahnCRX: btw: "I had Snu Snu: The jerkoffs in this thread make me want to take my 8 month old and my 3 year old on a coast to coast plane trip. I'll give each of them a red bull and a megaphone just to piss off all the self-righteous smug assholes. God you people piss me off, get the fark over yourselves hipsters."

And you think *you're* good parental material? Maybe they'll take your kids away after they come for mine?

Reading for sarcasm isn't your strong suit is it? I'm obviously not going to do that but it would be funny to see the reactions of self absorbed people like yourself, after you get done beating your children for making eye contact with somebody and potentially ruining their flight.

I had Snu Snu: uncletogie: I had Snu Snu: The jerkoffs in this thread make me want to take my 8 month old and my 3 year old on a coast to coast plane trip. I'll give each of them a red bull and a megaphone just to piss off all the self-righteous smug assholes. God you people piss me off, get the fark over yourselves hipsters.

1/10. Little too over the top.

Dial it back and I can guarantee you'll get bites.

I wasn't trolling actually, granted I'm not really going to do that but some of the people here really pissed me off. My mother passed away when my daughter was 14 months old and she lived across the country. Should I have called my dad and sisters and told them "Sorry I can't make it to Mom's funeral, but Jilly would bug some people on the plane and they're very very special and their peace and quiet is more important than being with my family and saying goodbye to my mother. You understand right?"

Why not? It's not like your mother would have noticed.

/first class please, "no children" section

I had Snu Snu: ShadowkahnCRX: btw: "I had Snu Snu: The jerkoffs in this thread make me want to take my 8 month old and my 3 year old on a coast to coast plane trip. I'll give each of them a red bull and a megaphone just to piss off all the self-righteous smug assholes. God you people piss me off, get the fark over yourselves hipsters."

And you think *you're* good parental material? Maybe they'll take your kids away after they come for mine?

Reading for sarcasm isn't your strong suit is it? I'm obviously not going to do that but it would be funny to see the reactions of self absorbed people like yourself, after you get done beating your children for making eye contact with somebody and potentially ruining their flight.

Ah, I beat my children now. Amazing how you know that.

Well, I'm sure you'll have a good comeback to this reply after you get done raping your 8 month old.

(See how that works? I can make shiat up too!)

dead_dangler: I *cannot* believe I'm the first one to post this:



Fark, I am dissapoint.

Yikes.

The admonition is deserved.

I have ashame.

People who biatch about having to hear a baby cry are what's really wrong with the world. It's 2010, throw in some earplugs or headphones and relax.

Owangotang: People who biatch about having to hear a baby cryInconsiderate people, including inconsiderate parents, are what's really wrong with the world. It's 2010, throw in some earplugs or headphones and relax.

FTFY.

AntiNorm: Inconsiderate people, including inconsiderate parents, are what's really wrong with the world. It's 2010, throw in some earplugs or headphones and relax.

FTFY.

Show me the miracle parents who can make their baby stop crying on command every time it begins to cry and I'll show you parents who are slipping the kid booze. You have unrealistic expectations of the world around you.

Owangotang: AntiNorm: Inconsiderate people, including inconsiderate parents, are what's really wrong with the world. It's 2010, throw in some earplugs or headphones and relax.

FTFY.

Show me the miracle parents who can make their baby stop crying on command every time it begins to cry and I'll show you parents who are slipping the kid booze. You have unrealistic expectations of the world around you.

You just need to shake 'em hard enough.

From what I've seen, it's not the babies crying for a bit here and there that are royally pissing people off, it's the parents who simply let their kids scream their farking heads off for the entire duration of the flight. Or let their kids incessantly kick your seat. Or run up and down the aisles shrieking. Or basically take no steps whatsoever to try and curb or correct the child's behavior.

Those piss me off too.

Owangotang: Show me the miracle parents who can make their baby stop crying on command every time it begins to cry and I'll show you parents who are slipping the kid booze. You have unrealistic expectations of the world around you.

You're missing the point entirely. Being a considerate parent has jack squat to do with making your kid STFU on command, and everything in the world to do with not taking them on the goddamned plane in the first place.

dead_dangler: Show me the miracle parents who can make their baby stop crying on command every time it begins to cry and I'll show you parents who are slipping the kid booze. You have unrealistic expectations of the world around you.

You just need to shake 'em hard enough.

Before or after giving them booze?

AntiNorm: You're missing the point entirely. Being a considerate parent has jack squat to do with making your kid STFU on command, and everything in the world to do with not taking them on the goddamned plane in the first place.

Psst, it's not your plane. What other freedoms are you willing to make others sacrifice in order to preserve "consideration"?

hailin: teeny: hailin: If you can't make a 2+ year old child behave, then you are a failure as a parent.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you've never actually met a 2-year-old.

4-5 years old is somewhat manageable. Coloring book, threats of beatings, etc. At two years old? Not so much.

Actually I have babysat quite a few two year olds (had my niece for a week when she was two) and have never had trouble getting them to behave. It is called being smarter than the kid and redirection. By 4 they should be on voice command. "Stop doing that" is all I have to say to either niece now. I've never spanked them or yelled at them. My sister is just a good parent and I enforce the rules consistently every single time. Really, parenting isn't that hard. I don't know why people can't do it.

You have babysat? LOL Holy shiat, your wealth of experience humbles us all. You should write a book.

hailin: SweetSilverBlues: hailin: Actually I have babysat quite a few two year olds (had my niece for a week when she was two) and have never had trouble getting them to behave. It is called being smarter than the kid and redirection. By 4 they should be on voice command. "Stop doing that" is all I have to say to either niece now. I've never spanked them or yelled at them. My sister is just a good parent and I enforce the rules consistently every single time. Really, parenting isn't that hard. I don't know why people can't do it.

This is so precious I don't even know where to begin.

Well I was slightly playing the strawman. I was actually a nanny for a family for a couple years and then professionally babysat for many years. I've taken college classes and actually know quite a bit about early childhood development. Yes, it is weird to watch kids for two months while the parents take off on a trip, but it wasn't hard by any stretch. You just need the tools to be able to deal.

Under two, its difficult, but 2+ is pretty easy. At least I've never had any problems and I've nannied/babysat over a hundred kids in my lifetime from all walks of life.

But...you know...keep thinking YOUR child is more difficult than the majority, but since you can keep them in line you are a better parent.

Oh it gets even better. So first you babysat and had your niece for a week. When questioned you are now a professional nanny for over 100 kids and had one of them for 2 months with no problems at all.

You are so full of shiat your eyes are brown, even the best of parents would never claim they never have any problems at all with their kid.

AntiNorm: Owangotang: Show me the miracle parents who can make their baby stop crying on command every time it begins to cry and I'll show you parents who are slipping the kid booze. You have unrealistic expectations of the world around you.

You're missing the point entirely. Being a considerate parent has jack squat to do with making your kid STFU on command, and everything in the world to do with not taking them on the goddamned plane in the first place.

I don't like cigarette smoke. I don't go places where people are smoking.

jst3p: hailin: SweetSilverBlues: hailin: Actually I have babysat quite a few two year olds (had my niece for a week when she was two) and have never had trouble getting them to behave. It is called being smarter than the kid and redirection. By 4 they should be on voice command. "Stop doing that" is all I have to say to either niece now. I've never spanked them or yelled at them. My sister is just a good parent and I enforce the rules consistently every single time. Really, parenting isn't that hard. I don't know why people can't do it.

This is so precious I don't even know where to begin.

Well I was slightly playing the strawman. I was actually a nanny for a family for a couple years and then professionally babysat for many years. I've taken college classes and actually know quite a bit about early childhood development. Yes, it is weird to watch kids for two months while the parents take off on a trip, but it wasn't hard by any stretch. You just need the tools to be able to deal.

Under two, its difficult, but 2+ is pretty easy. At least I've never had any problems and I've nannied/babysat over a hundred kids in my lifetime from all walks of life.

But...you know...keep thinking YOUR child is more difficult than the majority, but since you can keep them in line you are a better parent.

Oh it gets even better. So first you babysat and had your niece for a week. When questioned you are now a professional nanny for over 100 kids and had one of them for 2 months with no problems at all.

You are so full of shiat your eyes are brown, even the best of parents would never claim they never have any problems at all with their kid.


Sounds like another user that posted damn near that same spiel. Won't name names, but it was pretty obvious they were clueless.

jst3p: hailin: SweetSilverBlues: hailin: Actually I have babysat quite a few two year olds (had my niece for a week when she was two) and have never had trouble getting them to behave. It is called being smarter than the kid and redirection. By 4 they should be on voice command. "Stop doing that" is all I have to say to either niece now. I've never spanked them or yelled at them. My sister is just a good parent and I enforce the rules consistently every single time. Really, parenting isn't that hard. I don't know why people can't do it.

This is so precious I don't even know where to begin.

Well I was slightly playing the strawman. I was actually a nanny for a family for a couple years and then professionally babysat for many years. I've taken college classes and actually know quite a bit about early childhood development. Yes, it is weird to watch kids for two months while the parents take off on a trip, but it wasn't hard by any stretch. You just need the tools to be able to deal.

Under two, its difficult, but 2+ is pretty easy. At least I've never had any problems and I've nannied/babysat over a hundred kids in my lifetime from all walks of life.

But...you know...keep thinking YOUR child is more difficult than the majority, but since you can keep them in line you are a better parent.

Oh it gets even better. So first you babysat and had your niece for a week. When questioned you are now a professional nanny for over 100 kids and had one of them for 2 months with no problems at all.

You are so full of shiat your eyes are brown, even the best of parents would never claim they never have any problems at all with their kid.

Still trying to get where she got the whole "your kids are nightmarish little monsters who feed on the flesh of dead nuns but that's okay because you're only short of one miracle to be a parenting saint" from "That's so precious".

Okay...may have taken liberties with the paraphrasing.

Rik01: Nature, for some darn reason, out of all of the animals on Earth, has created the screams of the human infant to be the MOST annoying sounds ever, far beyond fingernails on a chalk board.

Not a real good survival mechanism.

Pretty good one for the infant if you think about it.

SweetSilverBlues: jst3p: hailin: SweetSilverBlues: hailin: Actually I have babysat quite a few two year olds (had my niece for a week when she was two) and have never had trouble getting them to behave. It is called being smarter than the kid and redirection. By 4 they should be on voice command. "Stop doing that" is all I have to say to either niece now. I've never spanked them or yelled at them. My sister is just a good parent and I enforce the rules consistently every single time. Really, parenting isn't that hard. I don't know why people can't do it.

This is so precious I don't even know where to begin.

Well I was slightly playing the strawman. I was actually a nanny for a family for a couple years and then professionally babysat for many years. I've taken college classes and actually know quite a bit about early childhood development. Yes, it is weird to watch kids for two months while the parents take off on a trip, but it wasn't hard by any stretch. You just need the tools to be able to deal.

Under two, its difficult, but 2+ is pretty easy. At least I've never had any problems and I've nannied/babysat over a hundred kids in my lifetime from all walks of life.

But...you know...keep thinking YOUR child is more difficult than the majority, but since you can keep them in line you are a better parent.

Oh it gets even better. So first you babysat and had your niece for a week. When questioned you are now a professional nanny for over 100 kids and had one of them for 2 months with no problems at all.

You are so full of shiat your eyes are brown, even the best of parents would never claim they never have any problems at all with their kid.

Still trying to get where she got the whole "your kids are nightmarish little monsters who feed on the flesh of dead nuns but that's okay because you're only short of one miracle to be a parenting saint" from "That's so precious".

Okay...may have taken liberties with the paraphrasing.

I can't wait till her next post when she comes back and tells us she has a Nobel Prize for her work in teaching parents how to parent.

Rik01: I'm agoraphobic. That means I dislike crowds -- a lot -- and pretty much have little use for individuals.

Usually, 20 minutes after walking into the local Walmart, I'm ready for tranquilizers after being around some of the nastiest people on the face of the earth and their sperm spawn. (At 5 feet tall, weighing in at about 375 pounds, most of it in the ass, a woman does not look good in spandex shorts, with long, curled fingernails and a cell plastered to one ear wearing flip-flops too small for her fat feet.)

Often I have to leave before I start punching people, especially those with the screaming babies and little shiats that run around yelling and laughing. Along with those who just MUST have a shouted conversation with a friend at the OTHER end of the store.

The concept of being trapped in a sealed aircraft, unable to even smoke, shoulder to shoulder with people, having to listen to babies scream and fuss and toddlers babble and squeal, for a couple of hours is, to me, a little slice of absolute hell.

By hour two, I'd probably be in the bathroom ripping apart the plumbing to fashion a weapon to pound heads with.

Nature, for some darn reason, out of all of the animals on Earth, has created the screams of the human infant to be the MOST annoying sounds ever, far beyond fingernails on a chalk board.

Not a real good survival mechanism.

BTW. I don't fly commercial. If I fly, it's with a trusted friend in a small aircraft.

Commercial aircraft CAN create a family section with some sound proofing insulation to at least cut down on ear bleeding screams.

I think we need to start a donation to get you some therapy. If absolutely everybody pisses you off, maybe you're the problem. You wouldn't be missed if you just removed yourself from the equation.

dead_dangler: I *cannot* believe I'm the first one to post this:



Fark, I am dissapoint.

FINALLY! Over 300 comments and only 2 cowbell-friendly posts. This is not the FARK I used to know.

jst3p: I can't wait till her next post when she comes back and tells us she has a Nobel Prize for her work in teaching parents how to parent.

...I can't wait until she writes a book or teaches a seminar. I can't believe no one's thought of the untapped market of parents in need of a babby-sitter's advice. Particularly when it comes to my failure as a parent for not being able to show my 2-year-old that I'm smarter than he is.

freetomato: To the advice-giving folks that have never had a child (me included - I got mine when he was 13 and he turned out great, plus no stretch marks or labor) this bit of reading might be in order:

Thinking of having kids? 11 step program. (new window)

I love kids, but Mother Nature didn't agree that I should birth any. (Farkin' Idiocracy!) But I had an awesome mother and from as far back as I can remember, a death-glare from mom was enough to keep me in line....kept me quiet and well-behaved in public, I had respect for my elders, had compassion for others, wasn't a troublemaker or bully, etc. I think spankings stopped when I was maybe 5? Can't speak for how I was when I was an infant/toddler but whatever mom did, she did correctly. My elderly relatives to this day talk about what wonderful kids we were.

Now THAT'S the mark of great parenting. When the get off my lawn folks even say you were a great kid. Nice post.

All the butt hurt in this thread cracks me up!

Next biatchfest ideas

Fat people lopping over onto your seat.
People who snore on the redeye.
People with bladder problems that have to get up all the time.
People with laptops that jab you with their elbows.
People who do use deodorant.
People who wear too much perfume.
People who drink Southern Comfort next to me.

etc.....

Wow, this thread turned nasty fast- even by Fark standards.

Good God, some of you are crybabies. Actual babies have an excuse -- what's yours?

The continuation of our species, for which you can thank your existence, currently requires that every individual pass through a stage where they are prone to excessive and frequently irrational displays of emotion. No amount of good parenting can reduce the probability of this happening to a child at any given moment to 0%.

If you absolutely disagree with that last sentence, not only have you not had kids yourself, you're a fool. You too screamed and cried as a kid, and annoyed people around you. No, I don't care if your remember being a perfect angel, or if mom assures you that you were an easy baby. I don't care if you remember being dragged back home if you made a scene. On many occasions you screamed your little head off in public for no good reason, and there was little your parents could do in certain situations, but the more mature people around just tuned it out as best they could, maybe giving sympathetic looks to your parents.

For hundreds of millennia, human beings have put have up with this in various cramped condition from caves during blizzards to boats, and any sane, mature person has the capacity to do so. No, you do not have particularly sensitive ears. There is only one thing seperating you from the people who don't have such a problem with it: your attitude. You're a whiny person who believes he is entitled to a life without discomfort, while the other people have a more pragmatic view of life. They haven't perfected some mysterious method of meditation that lets them escape to another plane realm of consciousness. They're merely people who, when they're thus temporarily inconvenienced, instead of thinking "GODDAMNIT THIS IS THE WORST TORTURE EVER", think rather, "Well, that's annoying, but oh well, that's life, this trip is only a few hours, and I might as well make the best of it that I can.".

The fact that most people are able to put up with such inconveniences with reasonably good humor should be a clue that there's something off with you.

Now, yes, there are a certain number of bad parents who make thing worse. (In this case, giving a kid a cowbell on a flight? Wtf???) And there are some flights that are particularly bad. But I find it particularly striking when I read something like "I dread the few times a year I do fly. About 2/3rds of those flights make me regret stepping onto that aircraft." Strange - In my life I haven't flown frequently, but I've been on about two dozen flights, both domestic and international, never in first or business class, endured a number of common inconveniences (luggage sent to the wrong state, a couple of transatlantic flights on which the seats were particularly cramped, etc.), and yet... while I can vaguely recall there having been some crying babies here or there, and a kid one time who kept bumping my seat from behind, I can't recall a single trip that I found truly intolerable. Have I somehow led a charmed existence?

Sorry if I sound bit vehement, but I'm just a bit astonished by the number of people who claim to be afflicted by screaming kids wherever they go. What dimension parallel to mine are you living in, that this is such a frequent and excruciating problem for you?

/and in case you're wondering, 30 and single with no kids.
// Not averse to them, just hasn't worked out that way so far
/// There are people who, for whatever reason, don't feel having kids fits their lifestyle. That's fine. But the bitterness shown in the usage of terms like "breeder" or "crotchfruit" here makes one wonder about some Farkers...

AntiNorm: Owangotang: Show me the miracle parents who can make their baby stop crying on command every time it begins to cry and I'll show you parents who are slipping the kid booze. You have unrealistic expectations of the world around you.

You're missing the point entirely. Being a considerate parent has jack squat to do with making your kid STFU on command, and everything in the world to do with not taking them on the goddamned plane in the first place.

aaaand being a considerate adult means realising that sometimes people have a need to take their children on planes and you learn to live with a small inconvenience rather than whine about it.

Isildur: But the bitterness shown in the usage of terms like "breeder" or "crotchfruit"

One of the most vile, ignorant words I've ever come across. It's no wonder why it has appeal here.

/no kids either
//rather deal with a bratty kid than a hipster douche who uses the word "crotchfruit"

Isildur: Rational, coherent post

Do you want to get married? Possibly in Massachusetts, if you're a dude?

Isildur: Good God, some of you are crybabies. Actual babies have an excuse -- what's yours?

The continuation of our species, for which you can thank your existence, currently requires that every individual pass through a stage where they are prone to excessive and frequently irrational displays of emotion. No amount of good parenting can reduce the probability of this happening to a child at any given moment to 0%.

If you absolutely disagree with that last sentence, not only have you not had kids yourself, you're a fool. You too screamed and cried as a kid, and annoyed people around you. No, I don't care if your remember being a perfect angel, or if mom assures you that you were an easy baby. I don't care if you remember being dragged back home if you made a scene. On many occasions you screamed your little head off in public for no good reason, and there was little your parents could do in certain situations, but the more mature people around just tuned it out as best they could, maybe giving sympathetic looks to your parents.

For hundreds of millennia, human beings have put have up with this in various cramped condition from caves during blizzards to boats, and any sane, mature person has the capacity to do so. No, you do not have particularly sensitive ears. There is only one thing seperating you from the people who don't have such a problem with it: your attitude. You're a whiny person who believes he is entitled to a life without discomfort, while the other people have a more pragmatic view of life. They haven't perfected some mysterious method of meditation that lets them escape to another plane realm of consciousness. They're merely people who, when they're thus temporarily inconvenienced, instead of thinking "GODDAMNIT THIS IS THE WORST TORTURE EVER", think rather, "Well, that's annoying, but oh well, that's life, this trip is only a few hours, and I might as well make the best of it that I can.".

The fact that most people are able to put up with such inconveniences with reasonably good humor should be a clue that there's something off with you.

Now, yes, there are a certain number of bad parents who make thing worse. (In this case, giving a kid a cowbell on a flight? Wtf???) And there are some flights that are particularly bad. But I find it particularly striking when I read something like "I dread the few times a year I do fly. About 2/3rds of those flights make me regret stepping onto that aircraft." Strange - In my life I haven't flown frequently, but I've been on about two dozen flights, both domestic and international, never in first or business class, endured a number of common inconveniences (luggage sent to the wrong state, a couple of transatlantic flights on which the seats were particularly cramped, etc.), and yet... while I can vaguely recall there having been some crying babies here or there, and a kid one time who kept bumping my seat from behind, I can't recall a single trip that I found truly intolerable. Have I somehow led a charmed existence?

Sorry if I sound bit vehement, but I'm just a bit astonished by the number of people who claim to be afflicted by screaming kids wherever they go. What dimension parallel to mine are you living in, that this is such a frequent and excruciating problem for you?

/and in case you're wondering, 30 and single with no kids.
// Not averse to them, just hasn't worked out that way so far
/// There are people who, for whatever reason, don't feel having kids fits their lifestyle. That's fine. But the bitterness shown in the usage of terms like "breeder" or "crotchfruit" here makes one wonder about some Farkers...


Good God, this bears repeating. Over and over again.

teeny: Isildur: Good God, some of you are crybabies. Actual babies have an excuse -- what's yours?

The continuation of our species, for which you can thank your existence, currently requires that every individual pass through a stage where they are prone to excessive and frequently irrational displays of emotion. No amount of good parenting can reduce the probability of this happening to a child at any given moment to 0%.

If you absolutely disagree with that last sentence, not only have you not had kids yourself, you're a fool. You too screamed and cried as a kid, and annoyed people around you. No, I don't care if your remember being a perfect angel, or if mom assures you that you were an easy baby. I don't care if you remember being dragged back home if you made a scene. On many occasions you screamed your little head off in public for no good reason, and there was little your parents could do in certain situations, but the more mature people around just tuned it out as best they could, maybe giving sympathetic looks to your parents.

For hundreds of millennia, human beings have put have up with this in various cramped condition from caves during blizzards to boats, and any sane, mature person has the capacity to do so. No, you do not have particularly sensitive ears. There is only one thing seperating you from the people who don't have such a problem with it: your attitude. You're a whiny person who believes he is entitled to a life without discomfort, while the other people have a more pragmatic view of life. They haven't perfected some mysterious method of meditation that lets them escape to another plane realm of consciousness. They're merely people who, when they're thus temporarily inconvenienced, instead of thinking "GODDAMNIT THIS IS THE WORST TORTURE EVER", think rather, "Well, that's annoying, but oh well, that's life, this trip is only a few hours, and I might as well make the best of it that I can.".

The fact that most people are able to put up with such inconveniences with reasonably good humor should be a clue that there's something off with you.

Now, yes, there are a certain number of bad parents who make thing worse. (In this case, giving a kid a cowbell on a flight? Wtf???) And there are some flights that are particularly bad. But I find it particularly striking when I read something like "I dread the few times a year I do fly. About 2/3rds of those flights make me regret stepping onto that aircraft." Strange - In my life I haven't flown frequently, but I've been on about two dozen flights, both domestic and international, never in first or business class, endured a number of common inconveniences (luggage sent to the wrong state, a couple of transatlantic flights on which the seats were particularly cramped, etc.), and yet... while I can vaguely recall there having been some crying babies here or there, and a kid one time who kept bumping my seat from behind, I can't recall a single trip that I found truly intolerable. Have I somehow led a charmed existence?

Sorry if I sound bit vehement, but I'm just a bit astonished by the number of people who claim to be afflicted by screaming kids wherever they go. What dimension parallel to mine are you living in, that this is such a frequent and excruciating problem for you?

/and in case you're wondering, 30 and single with no kids.
// Not averse to them, just hasn't worked out that way so far
/// There are people who, for whatever reason, don't feel having kids fits their lifestyle. That's fine. But the bitterness shown in the usage of terms like "breeder" or "crotchfruit" here makes one wonder about some Farkers...


Good God, this bears repeating. Over and over again.

Theres too damm many people on this planet . Stop w/ the crotchfruit breeding already

KatjaMouse: ...my last flight from Germany was a family who had a 6 month old screaming. Really just screaming. I thought maybe they were military and moving... until

If they were military would that have made it ok?

darth_shatner:
aaaand being a considerate adult means realising that sometimes people have a need to take their children on planes and you learn to live with a small inconvenience rather than whine about it.

Reading comprehension fail.

We accept that babies need to go on aircraft. We don't accept that the parent's do *nothing* to try and make them behave.

Parent giving them a cowbell? Should be a tasering...

Didgeridon't: vikingfan73: Torchsong: "So, what is it with airline food, am I right people? And those oh-so-friendly stewardesses...oh except you can't call them stewardesses anymore, can you? No, now they're flight attendants. Which is kind of a silly thing to say, if you think about it. Flight. Attendant. Do they really attend to the flight? I mean, sorry Tammi with an "i", I don't think your liberal arts degree provided you with the necessary mechanical knowledge to prime and oil a Boeing 747! Hey, you're beautiful, people...

"And what's with those parents who bring their kids on the plane, huh? And then the kid screams all the way from Omaha to Sacramento, you know the kid. He's on every plane. That one kid...they just kind of pass him around from flight to flight. Kid's probably making six figures and here I am at the Yukk Factory in Duluth, right? Then again, you're here watching me, so what does that show you?

"Okay, so those kids on the plane, huh? Seriously, folks, if your must breed, I have a word for you...Greyhound. Keep your kids off the plane, because honestly, I don't care that you paid the same price I did to get on the flight, I only care that I paid what I paid to get across the country without hearing your little crotch-apple screech for the duration, kapish? Guess who's gonna be first off if the plane's gonna crash and we have to lighten the load, right? Hey! I love you guys! Tip your waitresses, they work hard! Good night and God Bless Duluth!!!"

Duluth kicks arse. Wanna pick on a city try Gary, Indiana. Bob Saget would give his left nut to come here (Seinfeld has twice)

Seinfeld had two left nuts?

He actually had 3.

Joce678: KatjaMouse: ...my last flight from Germany was a family who had a 6 month old screaming. Really just screaming. I thought maybe they were military and moving... until

If they were military would that have made it ok?

If they were military they would have HAD to have been on that flight, no choice about it. And SATO probably would have screwed up and lied to them about their seating, like telling them they'd have bulkhead seats when SATO has no power over that whatsoever.

SATO is the most useless military department EVAR. Want to make cutbacks, start with farking SATO.

Isildur:
Now, yes, there are a certain number of bad parents who make thing worse.

That "certain number" being "the majority."

Raising children is hard work. If people are too lazy to put in the effort, they shouldn't be having kids, period. Better the species die out than devolve into a mass of self-centered spoiled brats who have no idea that the people around them are actual human beings like themselves, who are affected by their actions. And we will die out if it continues, because the survival of primates in contingent on their ability to work in groups and consider the needs of others as well as their own.

If the parent is even making one tiny bit of an effort, I'm willing to give him/her a lot of leeway. However, I very rarely see it happen.

Rik01: Once down and no longer able to provide ego boosting assistance -- I found myself alone.

So, yeah I have a real dim view of the average f**k. I've been in therapy for 10 years and made some progress

Yeah. I think I've a right to be a bit bitter about folks.

Dude, I totally get you...disillusion can be a real biatch, and it creates a complex that ends up in a vicious cycle resulting in greater disappointment. I'm only 33 and I have a nasty case of "get off my lawn." I just have to get up in the morning and choose to not let it pollute all of my life. I would hate to end up treating the one nice person I encounter in a day like crap because I have issues. Venting on Fark helps for me even if most of you guys think I'm nuts.

I just wanted to applaud you, 8Draw, since I'm not sure anyone else has.