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2010-10-12 08:45:04 AM
Going to dismiss this as well?
 
2010-10-12 08:50:04 AM
His logic would be flawless if the truther conspiracies weren't mindnumbingly retarded
 
2010-10-12 09:01:59 AM
tl;dr
 
2010-10-12 10:48:45 AM
Oh, good, another opportunity for fox to go "Look at the crazy leftist!".
 
2010-10-12 11:54:08 AM
kingoomieiii: Oh, good, another opportunity for fox to go "Look at the crazy leftist!".

HEY!

I'm a crazy leftist. I don't want to be lumped in with these martians.
 
2010-10-12 12:19:28 PM
That was an interesting interview.
 
2010-10-12 01:08:21 PM
Kirk's_Toupee: Going to dismiss this as well?

Yes.
 
2010-10-12 01:35:44 PM
what_now: I'm a crazy leftist. I don't want to be lumped in with these martians.

I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says, "Shenanigans."
 
2010-10-12 01:58:13 PM
Oh, I agree. The planes went INSIDE the buildings.

Book it, done.
 
2010-10-12 02:25:24 PM
No, he didn't, subtard.

He claims that information was left out of the 9/11 Commission Report.
 
2010-10-12 03:21:28 PM
I hope to come back here in a half hour with my derp-farming tools. Should be a mega harvest.
 
2010-10-12 03:22:48 PM
Shostie: No, he didn't, subtard.

He claims that information was left out of the 9/11 Commission Report.


Exactly. I sorta skimmed the video, and from what I can tell he's saying there's a cover up and information being hidden relating to our precautions before 9/11 that could have prevented it.

Everyone knows certain things: like we knew Bin Laden was planning an attack, etc. etc.

You can debate if that info was valid enough to act- I'm sure the government gets stacks of these warnings every day.

No one is mentioning an inside job. What people are asking is: did we do the right things to try to prevent 9/11. And to get those answers, is info being withheld from us.
 
2010-10-12 03:23:09 PM
With the government in this country I believe nothing even if it is 100% true. Been lied to so many times everything is a lie. I think you have to be a master liar to have any government job.
 
2010-10-12 03:26:49 PM
methinks the "whistleblower" might be wanting to sell some books.


never underestimate how good crony capitalists are at lying if there is a buck to be made.


Masters of the Game, they are.

now everyone don't forget, buy his book!
 
2010-10-12 03:30:55 PM
Oh good, Linux_Yes is here.
 
2010-10-12 03:31:34 PM
downstairs:

No one is mentioning an inside job. What people are asking is: did we do the right things to try to prevent 9/11. And to get those answers, is info being withheld from us.


As anyone knows, this is a no. For years the intelligence community was more interested in one upping each other rather than working together (which he talks about the CIA quashing his asset because it wasn't their asset). No Administration did anything to fix that prior to 9/11.

Didn't we all already know this?
 
2010-10-12 03:31:59 PM
Treygreen13: Oh good, Linux_Yes is here.

yes, speaking of derp tools
 
2010-10-12 03:39:05 PM
I have shoulder pads! I am REAL
 
2010-10-12 03:49:04 PM
Treygreen13: Oh good, Linux_Yes is here.

Not in my feed.

/use the tools Fark provides friendo.
 
2010-10-12 03:50:16 PM
linc654: Treygreen13: Oh good, Linux_Yes is here.

Not in my feed.

/use the tools Fark provides friendo.


I'd never ignore Linux_Yes. He's worth it just for the hilarity of reading what he writes.
 
2010-10-12 03:54:09 PM
Barakku: His logic would be flawless if the truther conspiracies weren't mindnumbingly retarded

All you folks who use the term "truther" are unreasonable, and always have been. It is simply astonishing that you people can bury your own heads so deeply in the sand that the events of that day do not seem odd to you.

WTC7 dropped straight down in 9 seconds, which is freefall speed. If nothing else about that day strikes you as odd, fine, you're an idiot, but fine. But you seriously have to be retarded or mentally ill not to accept that there is no possible way for that for that to have occurred without a massive, coordinated, and very expensive act of subterfuge.

So what the fark, exactly, is illogical about being a "truther", as you call them?
 
2010-10-12 03:55:51 PM
So the whole thing was Clinton's fault,,, I knew it
 
2010-10-12 03:56:30 PM
thomps: Treygreen13: Oh good, Linux_Yes is here.

yes, speaking of derp tools


Perhaps, but I agree with his statement.

Now I must go shower.
 
2010-10-12 03:59:03 PM
boobsrgood: Barakku: His logic would be flawless if the truther conspiracies weren't mindnumbingly retarded

All you folks who use the term "truther" are unreasonable, and always have been. It is simply astonishing that you people can bury your own heads so deeply in the sand that the events of that day do not seem odd to you.

WTC7 dropped straight down in 9 seconds, which is freefall speed. If nothing else about that day strikes you as odd, fine, you're an idiot, but fine. But you seriously have to be retarded or mentally ill not to accept that there is no possible way for that for that to have occurred without a massive, coordinated, and very expensive act of subterfuge.

So what the fark, exactly, is illogical about being a "truther", as you call them?


i cast Melf's Acid Arrow on boobsrgood. i hope he's a troll, if he's not i've wasted my big spell for the day and he's frightenly stupid or crazy.
 
2010-10-12 03:59:06 PM
Old_Chief_Scott: thomps: Treygreen13: Oh good, Linux_Yes is here.

yes, speaking of derp tools

Perhaps, but I agree with his statement.

Now I must go shower.


just remember, every time you shower, you have to pay some crony capitalist for the "privilege" to use their water. you might as well use the constitution as your wash cloth. home of the free, my ass.
 
2010-10-12 03:59:33 PM
boobsrgood: WTC7 dropped straight down in 9 seconds, which is freefall speed.

Something fell....at the rate at which things fall!?!?

OMG!
 
2010-10-12 04:05:12 PM
boobsrgood: WTC7 dropped straight down in 9 seconds, which is freefall speed. If nothing else about that day strikes you as odd, fine, you're an idiot, but fine. But you seriously have to be retarded or mentally ill not to accept that there is no possible way for that for that to have occurred without a massive, coordinated, and very expensive act of subterfuge.

I thought you truther nuts claimed that parts of the WTC *didn't* fall at freefall speed, and that somehow proved some conspiracy?
 
2010-10-12 04:10:08 PM
thomps: just remember, every time you shower, you have to pay some crony capitalist for the "privilege" to use their water. you might as well use the constitution as your wash cloth. home of the free, my ass.

You forgot to bold part of it. Otherwise, that was pretty good.
 
2010-10-12 04:16:53 PM
Sometimes I think that like Pearl Harbor, we'll discover one day that 9/11 was an "inside job" or at least expected and poorly prevented, if at all, and since it will be the year 2050 when that news comes out, nobody will care.

I hope not, though.
 
2010-10-12 04:17:35 PM
downstairs: I thought you truther nuts claimed that parts of the WTC *didn't* fall at freefall speed, and that somehow proved some conspiracy?

Or we could think for a moment and wonder why, if the government had the resources in place and a plan to carry this all out, they'd purposefully destroy buildings just for dramatic effect. The planes into the buildings were enough to achieve the goal - a devious government plot wouldn't include blowing up buildings for the hell of it, especially considering the additional risk that action would take on.
 
2010-10-12 04:18:46 PM
Bill_Wick's_Friend: Something fell....at the rate at which things fall!?!?

Yes, as if it was dropped. Big problem though, it was a farking gigantic building, with thousands of tons of steel, concrete, and other structural materials dedicated to preventing just that from being possible. It had the structural integrity to stand for years. Then it just fell down. In nine seconds. The whole thing.

And even though this has never happened anywhere else, ever, the people who find it odd are crazy, according to your ilk.

Riiight.
 
2010-10-12 04:19:04 PM
Linux_Yes: methinks the "whistleblower" might be wanting to sell some books.

I thought that was how this was going to go too. At first. I kept waiting for him to respond to a question with "You'll have to read my book," but he really never did. Made one reference to it but answered the question directly.
 
2010-10-12 04:19:32 PM
Link (new window)


nuf said.
 
2010-10-12 04:26:19 PM
boobsrgood: Yes, as if it was dropped. Big problem though, it was a farking gigantic building, with thousands of tons of steel, concrete, and other structural materials dedicated to preventing just that from being possible. It had the structural integrity to stand for years. Then it just fell down. In nine seconds. The whole thing.

And even though this has never happened anywhere else, ever, the people who find it odd are crazy, according to your ilk.

Riiight.


Then what's the benefit for the conspirators to do that? Why rig up an unrelated building to fall knowing the risks for that sort of activity? The risk of being found out, the risk of having people like yourself pretending to be structural engineers to analyze it, the risk of doing anything other than the planes?

Why would you stage a major disaster and then risk what would be the largest, most involved conspiracy on earth to make a few more buildings crumble? It makes no sense.
 
2010-10-12 04:33:10 PM
boobsrgood: Barakku: His logic would be flawless if the truther conspiracies weren't mindnumbingly retarded

All you folks who use the term "truther" are unreasonable, and always have been. It is simply astonishing that you people can bury your own heads so deeply in the sand that the events of that day do not seem odd to you.

WTC7 dropped straight down in 9 seconds, which is freefall speed. If nothing else about that day strikes you as odd, fine, you're an idiot, but fine. But you seriously have to be retarded or mentally ill not to accept that there is no possible way for that for that to have occurred without a massive, coordinated, and very expensive act of subterfuge.

So what the fark, exactly, is illogical about being a "truther", as you call them?


ANyone who knows anything about that day knows that WTC7 was completely missing ON THE BACKSIDE. It was also a very, very poorly constructed building. Just because all your pretty pictures say it was a nice, intact building, doesn't make it true.
 
2010-10-12 04:34:03 PM
Tbith: Link (new window)


nuf said.


Are you claiming planes didn't crash into the twin towers and this was just an office fire?
 
2010-10-12 04:36:30 PM
Treygreen13: It makes no sense.

Well, that's really a separate issue, isn't it? Regardless of what you or I think happened that day or for what reason, it doesn't make the absurd physical reality of what occurred on film any more or less understandable as an "accident".

I have no idea what was done, by who, or why. But my nation has been invading two other oil-rich nations on the other side of the planet for a decade now, and those buildings were definitely used as the justification. Not that anyone really gives two shiates about the murders of a million people, anyway.
 
2010-10-12 04:38:55 PM
Wait, which is DERP and which is WHARRGARBL?
 
2010-10-12 04:39:34 PM
boobsrgood: Not that anyone really gives two shiates about the murders of a million people, anyway.

Framing them as murders says more about you than it does about the deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
2010-10-12 04:40:11 PM
Treygreen13: downstairs: I thought you truther nuts claimed that parts of the WTC *didn't* fall at freefall speed, and that somehow proved some conspiracy?

Or we could think for a moment and wonder why, if the government had the resources in place and a plan to carry this all out, they'd purposefully destroy buildings just for dramatic effect. The planes into the buildings were enough to achieve the goal - a devious government plot wouldn't include blowing up buildings for the hell of it, especially considering the additional risk that action would take on.


The government is completely incompetent with the exception of one department: Shadow Ops. Right? I bet...

And they add extra flare to every job, just because its fun to do.
 
2010-10-12 04:40:24 PM
boobsrgood: Barakku: His logic would be flawless if the truther conspiracies weren't mindnumbingly retarded

All you folks who use the term "truther" are unreasonable, and always have been. It is simply astonishing that you people can bury your own heads so deeply in the sand that the events of that day do not seem odd to you.

WTC7 dropped straight down in 9 seconds, which is freefall speed. If nothing else about that day strikes you as odd, fine, you're an idiot, but fine. But you seriously have to be retarded or mentally ill not to accept that there is no possible way for that for that to have occurred without a massive, coordinated, and very expensive act of subterfuge.

So what the fark, exactly, is illogical about being a "truther", as you call them?


Right there, what I've bolded, that's why it's illogical. What would be the point of doing that on purpose? If you've already "conspired" to have two jet liners plunge into WTC 1 and 2, that's enough of a reason to start a war. You don't need to go to the additional expense and secrecy risk of also planting explosives in ANY of the buildings. It fell because two 110-story buildings collapsed right next to it. Seriously, what the fark?
 
2010-10-12 04:43:18 PM
boobsrgood: Well, that's really a separate issue, isn't it? Regardless of what you or I think happened that day or for what reason, it doesn't make the absurd physical reality of what occurred on film any more or less understandable as an "accident".

I have no idea what was done, by who, or why. But my nation has been invading two other oil-rich nations on the other side of the planet for a decade now, and those buildings were definitely used as the justification. Not that anyone really gives two shiates about the murders of a million people, anyway.


No, it is part of the issue. The Truther movement can't reconcile the simple matter of why a conspirator would go to great lengths to incriminate himself.

Forget all the truther arguments that have already been shot down, forget chicken wire and cinderblocks. Forget discussions about the engineering of buildings and the expected freefall speed of a flaming building.

You can't come up with a single reason why your biggest arguing point is completely illogical in terms of motivation and risk. You can try to wrap it up in some vague "war justification" bullshiat but you can't answer the question.
 
2010-10-12 04:43:56 PM
"Whistleblower announces on foxnews that 9-11 was inside job"

He said no such thing. He was talking about a cover up of information in the 9/11 commission report.


/Subby fails
 
2010-10-12 04:45:59 PM
If anything he said was true, he would have "disappeared" a long time ago.
 
2010-10-12 04:47:07 PM
feanturi: If you've already "conspired" to have two jet liners plunge into WTC 1 and 2, that's enough of a reason to start a war.

Exactly. Same as the "Pentagon plane was actually a missile" bull. If you've already gone to great lengths to make sure that you get a war and have no qualms about doing it with a plane full of people, why would you risk using a missile to blow up your main military building when you know it's going to be covered and studied ad nauseum until we're all long dead?

There are fundamental logical errors in all aspects of the "truther" movement.
 
2010-10-12 04:48:16 PM
Subtard. Truthtard. Retard.
 
2010-10-12 04:49:32 PM
Like Pearl Harbor, people will eventually accept that at most the "inside job" was really just a lot of oversight due to incompetence or infighting.

Notice that these days you don't hear much about FDR allowing Pearl Harbor to happen? That's because most of those theorists have died off. People love to form conspiracy theories around big events that happened in their time. For you grandfather, it was Pearl Harbor, for your Dad it was JFK.
 
2010-10-12 04:50:04 PM
Tbith: Link (new window)


nuf said.


except that the framing for both towers of the WTC were built unlike other metal frame structures, "fireproofed" unlike most metal framed structures, the floors were stacked and supported in a unigue fasion, and NONE of those fires on your link were kick started by over 40K gallons of farking jet fuel, let alone subjected to the kinetic energy of two 300,000+ lb aircraft traveling between 400-500 MPH.

The argument your link proposes is akin to trying to compare a gutshot from a .45 caliber bullet to a gut shot from a .50 cal incendiary round.

/NOT NEARLY "nuf said".
//The entire theory is ignorant on it's face.
/// the stupid... it burns at a temp of 210 degrees C.
 
2010-10-12 04:50:22 PM
The Truther theory is a straw man that has consistently distracted from real questions about who farked up on 9/11 and who's responsible for creating Bin Laden. Since, of course, on Truther Earth we find out that Bin Laden is some sort of hologram.
 
2010-10-12 04:52:37 PM
Treygreen13: You can try to wrap it up in some vague "war justification" bullshiat but you can't answer the question.

I don't really care who is profiting, I just object to the assertion that everyone with doubts is inherently crazy just for questioning the official version of the events.

But again, the longest and most expensive war campaign in this nation's history is still being waged to this day in the name of those events, and I'm pretty sure someone is profiting from it mightily.
 
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