"Nu-nuh," "Uh-huh," Nu-nuh, not if we Jam it." "Ah- ha."


/Only one man who would dare give me the raspberry!

Cardinal:

Are you sure that the total outward blast wouldn't demolish all power the hurricane once had?

(Not trying to be funny, I'm really actually curious)

Maybe if we stopped naming the blasted things, they'd feel a little less welcome to drop by and say hello.

The best advice I could offer to anyone who is overly concerned about hurricanes is to move to Kansas. We're pretty much hurricane-proof here.

Yeah, but the hurricanes and dust-storms are just as bad. And don't get me started on the Kansas University fans...

...or that whole 'Wizard of Oz' thing.

Maybe we should start giving them last names doctechnical?

Yeah, and detonating a nuclear device in the atmosphere is a great idea. EMP anyone?

Perhaps if we would lend them money they would stay away.

We could change what they are called from hurricanes to Jahova's Witnesses, and then everyone can just ignore them and go about like normal.

nuking hurricanes is kinda amusing

Simple.

Ohio State.

Or, people living in a hurricane zone could adapt to a way of living that allows for the occasional crushing storm to roll through without annihilating living spaces and work places, or simply adapt to massive cleanups once in a while...

Naah. That would make too much sense.

Nuke a hurricane.

Who's the grade-A asshat that thought THIS was a good idea?!

Well...is water conducive to fallout? The biggest problem is usually dust, and I doubt that's well represented in the middle of a hurricane. So it may not give the world cancer, but it's still pretty stupid.

Or then again, it may give the world cancer. I mean, throwing radioactives into high level worldwide weather systems is pretty smart...

Good one, foxyg.

Anyone else get a bit where IE asks you if you want to resend information whenever you refresh a fark forum? That's damn irritating.

doctechnical
Maybe if we stopped naming the blasted things, they'd feel a little less welcome to drop by and say hello.

Heh, or re-naming the blasted things. You can't establish a rep if you keep changing your name. Kinda like some of the farkers around here.

I come from a beach town, and people simply build too much on the coast. High rise condominiums, apartments, and hotels within 50 feet of the ocean. Building on barrier islands or directly on the coastline is absolutely idiotic. Furthermore, instead of developing inane ideas to screw with earth's natural cycle, why not just live in a way such that the economic impact is minimal?

"Terrible idea, a nuclear bomb," said Willoughby

Damn liberal-voting limp-wristed idiot.

Why don't you go live in China?

why do we try to stop and alter nature...huricanes are the best source of population control(for third world nations)

Now THAT is a beautiful troll. I'm getting misty here.

If a hurricane blows a building away there was something wrong in the first place. It was built the wrong way, it was in the wrong place, or both. Of course this won't stop people from building an identical building on the same spot.

Ya know I have been pondering the effects of a nuclear blast on a hurricane for over a decade. If it wasn't horrendously environmentally damaging it would be way cool. The force would blow out the eye-wall, and the heat would vaporize any latent water and the shockwave would blow apart the storm radially. I guess depending on the size and strength of the storm it could reform

We should convert existing technology. I'm told that sheep's bladders can be used to prevent earthquakes, so perhaps they can be used to prevent hurricanes.

What about a moab?

And my girlfriend wanted me to move to Florida with her. Only if I get to play with nukes baby.

One man suggested the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's hurricane research center in Miami use prayer to combat hurricanes.

"When I stopped taking him seriously, he prayed a hurricane would come and get me," said Hugh Willoughby, NOAA's former director of hurricane research.

Wow, didnt see that one coming.

Pont:
I was gonna just suggest that same thing. We have these huge ass bombs now. Is it really so hard to make an EVEN BIGGER NON-NUCLEAR BOMB? I mean all you gotta do is throw more gunpowder in there.

I suspect that the real reason we don't do this is nobody is willing to pay for it until they're forced to after the damage is already done.

Hell, take a moab, and find some kind of water absorbant powder that will not be incinerated by the blast and put that in hundreds of little bomblets that fire out and explode seperately and spread this environmentally freindly chemical oer a huge area. I bet that would take care of it.

Ahaha, nuke a hurricane. Yes, having radio active particles flying around would be much more preferable to the hurricane itself. Just think of what your kids could do with all those extra arms!

The problem with stopping a hurricane is that it would be more or less impossible. Take a look at Hurricane Floyd Note that the storm covers the southeast coast all the way in to Alabama. Explain to me how to stop this thing again?

I could see a tornado being stopped by a hyperbaric bomb or some such thing like that, but a hurricane? No way. Board up your windows and get ready for the ride, guys.

I think Roger Waters had the right idea about stopping hurricanes. Something about building a friggin wall or something.

Here's a thought: why don't we just stop fvcking with nature. Every time we do, we fvck up something else. But, we're humans, it's out duty to fvck up.

well, i guess when the only tool you have is a hammer, everything starts looking like a nail.

Another problem with nuking a hurricane would be the damage caused by the EMP.(Electro Magnetic Pulse) Not good for radio and computer equipment, or anything electrical for that matter.

I liked things better in the good old days, 300-400 years ago when hurricanes did so much less financial damage. Who insures teepees, anyway?

Woo-hoo!!!! Hurricane parties where the hurricane will microwave your food! Great idea!

2003-06-22 08:57:52 PM sswift


Pont:
I was gonna just suggest that same thing. We have these huge ass bombs now. Is it really so hard to make an EVEN BIGGER NON-NUCLEAR BOMB? I mean all you gotta do is throw more gunpowder in there.

I suspect that the real reason we don't do this is nobody is willing to pay for it until they're forced to after the damage is already done.

Hell, take a moab, and find some kind of water absorbant powder that will not be incinerated by the blast and put that in hundreds of little bomblets that fire out and explode seperately and spread this environmentally freindly chemical oer a huge area. I bet that would take care of it.


The problem with this idea is the very nature of a MOAB. They are air/fuel bombs, that work by emitting a cloud of fuel mist that is then detonated. MOABS aren't, for the most part, terribly useful - the weather conditions have to be right. In the middle of a hurricane would be "not right".

test

"Gonna put my fa-ace on a nukliur bomb!
all the commies better get up and ru-un!
Gonna let that sucker fly, and all the bad folks are
gonna die
gonna put mah face on a nukliur bomb!"

SevenYearHawk
...that guy with the water-absorbent beads didn't mention it creates a big farking mess, like a sponge, and that it isn't necessarily biodegradable ...

Actually, I read somewhere (in Scientific American, I believe) that the absorbent stuff (called Dyn-O-Storm) dissolves in seawater harmlessly.

Where can I buy *that* shirt? Photoshop?

thoseshirts.com

I wonder if detonating a large number of fuel-air bombs in the upper atmosphere ABOVE the edge of the eye could disrupt the air circulation enough to lessen the effects of the storm. Since air rises up through the eye, if air was sucked upward in the reigion surrounding where air is normally rising it could possibly interrupt the storm

They're talking about using "native trees" in south florida as wind buffers. That'll be fine and dandy. Too bad there aren't any there.

/North Floridian

I could see a tornado being stopped by a hyperbaric bomb or some such thing like that, but a hurricane?

It's thermobaric.

The problem with this idea is the very nature of a MOAB. They are air/fuel bombs, that work by emitting a cloud of fuel mist that is then detonated. MOABS aren't, for the most part, terribly useful - the weather conditions have to be right. In the middle of a hurricane would be "not right".


Nope. The MOAB is not an FAE, it's just a big HE charge (trintonal is the filler used).

I weep for humanity.

It's easy to stop a hurricane. Just reverse the rotation of the Earth.


Or, call the Ohio State Buckeyes.........

"I liked things better in the good old days, 300-400 years ago when hurricanes did so much less financial damage. Who insures teepees, anyway? "

The thing about tipis is you dont have to insure them, because when a hurricane is coming you pack it up and get the hell out of there.

Fook

The amount of energy in a nuke, even a Bravo-class nuke, is nothing compared to a hurricane.

Mr. Hurricane would simply blow radioactive debris where he went.

if we cant nuke em, lets anthrax em. thatll stop them pesky hurricanes.

or fill them with mexicans. the hurricanes would become so lazy by example, they'd just vanish

greyson the mexicans I know are not lazy.

I should know, they mow my yard and do a good very job for cheap.

In fact, one skilled Mexican fixed a major ding on my car for $120 recently (somebody backed into it, but the paint was somehow intact), took him 20 - 30 minutes, and he did a very good job with what "normal" auto places were estimating $500 - $800.

natural-selection-at-work maybe it has been refined, but when i lived in SoFla i remember that being one of the drawbacks ... sort of the "well, we killed the hurricane, but now we have an enviromental disaster on our hands" kinda problem ...

plant more trees !??! what is he a farking communist ? lets fark with the jet stream already ! dont you see, overwhelming force is all these weather patterns *understand*...

Omfg, where do I start ranting? Here? OK!

I was down here from Andrew. The damage was....un-farking-believeable. Spent a week loading trucks for FEMA (volunteer).

First, see what high winds can do:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/HAW/day2/high_winds.htm

Nuclear weapons? I tried. Didn't work. I think the fuse got wet.

Gentdirkly: There are no native trees is South Florida? There's a big ass palm tree right outside my window that looks just like the ones I see in the Everglades. Are you suggesting that someone imported them and planted them in the %$$#ing 'glades? AYEEEEEEE don't get me started! TOO LATE!

So far greyson has the best idea: Anthrax. My post office got shut down due to anthrax and we haven't had a storm come our way since then.

I'd rather have hurricanes than canadian tourists.

What if we made a giant helicopter with blades that spin in the opposite direction of the hurricane and place it over the eye of the storm for a while until the hurricane slows down and stops.

It would only have to be a few miles wide, and we could make it run with a portal nuclear reactor.

I say we send an inverse Tachyon pulse through the EPS distribution system. In effect, turning the warp nacelles into a huge hurricane unmaker!

Mr. Crusher...Make is sew!

Ah, wonderful. So instead of a hurricane we have a radioactive hurricane. Spiffy.
Seeing as how hurricanes are powered by solar heat energy, one could theoretically use a nuke to make a hurricane LARGER. I doubt you could do anything at all to shrink it...

Now tornados, those could possibly be nuked!

/pulling dumb ideas out of his ass

The answer: geodesic domes.

I know. We'll just dump complex hydrocarbons into the atmosphere until no solar heat can penetrate to the ocean's surface. Voila, no more hurricanes! It's the up-side of a nuclear winter scenario ;)

That guy that suggested prayer--that one had me cursing up a storm just for the heck of it. I'm certain "prayer" is that religious no-load's answer to EVERYTHING.

Maybe if you aimed it right and all that hot air convalesced into a counter-rotational hurricane...other than that, sorry let's get real. Oo, what's this, did I just piss you off by saying that prayer doesn't work? So now you're praying that I be smited? Well, here I stand yet, thus proving my point yet again. Toodles.

I've met many religious dip-dunks like that. Irritating in both their ignorance and their tenacity. It's amazing they ever get anything done, considering how focussed they are on begging for help.

The "nuke em" crowd is probably the same way: the answer to everything is--NUKE IT! Hey folks, the 1950's called, they want their careening idealism back.

Furthermore, instead of developing inane ideas to screw with earth's natural cycle, why not just live in a way such that the economic impact is minimal?
AHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAA surely you jest. Modern "civilized" humans do not live WITH their environment, they CONQUER it. Let's face it, that's the mindset.

Don't nuke the hurricane, NUKE FLORIDA!

Solve all those problems in one fell swooooooop.

Let's make a giant cold-bomb. Instead of reaching millions of degrees hot, it would get millions of degrees cold. I don't know how you would do this though. I think we should create a black hole in the eye of the hurricane, and then hold Phish concerts there.

Nature would pwn the human race in Survivor

To those foolish people who think "Why not use a MOAB?"..

A MOAB is TINY compared to a hurricane. Most people seem to think hurricanes are these little disturbances that strike one city or something. Hurricanes are GIGANTIC. Hundreds of square miles. It's not like bombing a castle in Baghdad.

People who think people can stop hurricanes are clueless. Most of them are retirees, I notice.

"I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."

For shame, Farkers...

Believe it or not, ideas like this were very popular in the 50's and 60's. It was thought nuclear blasts could be harnessed and used in a beneficial matter (i.e. nuking canals for shipping, nuking tunnels through mountains, nuking the ground instead of mining, etc etc). My best bud in high school's dad worked in these programs. Couldn't talk about any of it until the late 1990's when it was finally declassified. Amazing stories. And it turns out one of the reasons the government owns such huge tracts of barren land is due to it's contamination from these tests. Really cool (but scary) stuff.

Thespecialistkc: Couldn't talk about any of it until the late 1990's when it was finally declassified.

Said "classification" being so efficient that I was reading about plans to nuke mountains for highways was mentioned in the books I read in grade school in the 70s.

And it turns out one of the reasons the government owns such huge tracts of barren land is due to it's contamination from these tests.

No, the reason the government owns such huge tracts of barren land is because there's not a big real estate market for huge tracts of barren land. Did you think the gubbmint just picked a spot on the map, did some above-ground testing and then decided it would be a good idea to buy the land afterwords?

As far as these ideas for using atomics being "stupid", hindsight is 20/20. That's why the military did so much atomic testing in the 50's and 60's, to gather information and knowledge. After that, the idea of mining with nukes was clearly a bad idea.

How retarded. You don't stop a hurricane. The human race is still too puny do do something like that.