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(Wired)   1.87 m tall Obama, who is the 44rd President and has been President for 623 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes and 32 seconds, makes the first appointment of someone with autism   (wired.com) divider line 207
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2010-10-06 11:37:40 AM
"1.87 m tall Obama" has a posse.
 
2010-10-06 11:39:45 AM
44rd? Really?
 
2010-10-06 11:40:53 AM
Let me give a pre-emptive "LOL" to all of the hilarious and original people who will make remarks like "BUT ALL OF HIS APPOINTEES ARE RETARDED"

LOL
 
2010-10-06 11:44:04 AM
NewportBarGuy: 44rd? Really?

I guess autism doesn't give you perfect grammar.
 
2010-10-06 11:52:15 AM
K-Mart sucks.
 
2010-10-06 11:55:19 AM
GAT_00: I guess autism doesn't give you perfect grammar.

Definately. Definately.
 
2010-10-06 12:12:59 PM
One anonymous emailer to a federal agency in Washington wrote that "assholes like Ari Ne'eman" should "have their tongues cut out" for suggesting that autistic people need respect, civil rights, and access to services more than they need pity and a cure.

Umm, why can't autistic people have respect, civil rights, and access to services while researchers work towards preventing autism for future generations? I fail to see how one prevents the other.
 
2010-10-06 12:16:48 PM
What a 44rd might look like:
i.imgur.com
 
2010-10-06 12:19:26 PM
air_wx: One anonymous emailer to a federal agency in Washington wrote that "assholes like Ari Ne'eman" should "have their tongues cut out" for suggesting that autistic people need respect, civil rights, and access to services more than they need pity and a cure.

Umm, why can't autistic people have respect, civil rights, and access to services while researchers work towards preventing autism for future generations? I fail to see how one prevents the other.


That emailer sounds bootstrappy.
 
2010-10-06 12:39:03 PM
air_wx: Umm, why can't autistic people have respect, civil rights, and access to services while researchers work towards preventing autism for future generations? I fail to see how one prevents the other.

Every group has people like that. There are people who are so tied to the idea of the "deaf community" and deafness as an identity that they're aghast that anyone is trying to find a cure for deafness.

Acknowledging that something is a disorder does NOT mean relegating those who have it to second-class status. I get that homosexuality was also once considered a disorder, and I'm aware of the need for caution in what we label as such. But I feel comparisons with homosexuality are invalid. Deaf people can't hear. Homosexuals can't... what? Mismatch clothes? Stomach NASCAR? It's not the same damn thing.
 
2010-10-06 12:46:57 PM
1.87m, METERS?? I knew he was a Eurocommienazisocialist.
 
2010-10-06 12:52:48 PM
mitchcumstein1: 1.87m, METERS?? I knew he was a Eurocommienazisocialist.

'cuse me. big words be fightin words.
 
2010-10-06 01:02:20 PM
mitchcumstein1: 1.87m, METERS?? I knew he was a Eurocommienazisocialist.

That's not descriptive enough, given the prevalence of the metric system. It's better to say that he isn't a LiberianBurmeseAmerican, since those are the only three countries that don't use the metric system.
 
2010-10-06 01:06:30 PM
GAT_00: mitchcumstein1: 1.87m, METERS?? I knew he was a Eurocommienazisocialist.

That's not descriptive enough, given the prevalence of the metric system. It's better to say that he isn't a LiberianBurmeseAmerican, since those are the only three countries that don't use the metric system.


Burma? I'm not familiar.
 
2010-10-06 01:12:08 PM
...and he's an excellent driver.
 
2010-10-06 01:16:53 PM
air_wx:
Umm, why can't autistic people have respect, civil rights, and access to services while researchers work towards preventing autism for future generations? I fail to see how one prevents the other.


Part of it would depend on how you define "cure". If the goal is to turn them into something more like a high-functioning aspie, I'd be onboard, but if you're trying to make everyone neurotypical*, I see that as a step backward.

*I don't like this term, but it's the best one available.
 
2010-10-06 01:27:44 PM
This sounds like a curious incident.
 
2010-10-06 01:38:45 PM
mitchcumstein1: GAT_00: mitchcumstein1: 1.87m, METERS?? I knew he was a Eurocommienazisocialist.

That's not descriptive enough, given the prevalence of the metric system. It's better to say that he isn't a LiberianBurmeseAmerican, since those are the only three countries that don't use the metric system.

Burma? I'm not familiar.


Aka Myanmar.
 
2010-10-06 02:14:17 PM
GAT_00: NewportBarGuy: 44rd? Really?

I guess autism doesn't give you perfect grammar.


Didn't have time for correction. Wapner was on.
 
2010-10-06 02:18:07 PM
FTFA: Though the metaphor is far from exact (for example, gay people obviously don't face the impairments that many autistic people do)

Well, it's kind of hard to talk properly, make eye contact, or not do repetitive motions when you got a d*ck in your mouth.

THANK YOU, I'LL BE HERE ALL WEEK!
 
2010-10-06 02:34:25 PM
NewportBarGuy: 44rd? Really?

THIS

Guess the submitter isn't autistic.
 
2010-10-06 02:40:05 PM
First appointment? Meh, we had one finish his second term in elected office just last year.
 
2010-10-06 02:52:48 PM
NewportBarGuy: 44rd? Really?

Yeah, it's pronounced "fordeeford"
 
2010-10-06 02:54:13 PM
But who's on first?
 
2010-10-06 02:54:15 PM
Wasn't one of Clinton's speech writers a low-spectrum autistic who could barely talk to people outside of the pulpit?
 
2010-10-06 02:54:54 PM
Yeah, he looks like a real mouthbreather.
 
2010-10-06 02:55:07 PM
He'll be the White House autist-in-residence.
 
2010-10-06 02:55:33 PM
Jonathan Hohensee: Wasn't one of Clinton's speech writers a low-spectrum autistic who could barely talk to people outside of the pulpit?

Leave Hillary Alone!
 
2010-10-06 02:56:00 PM
well its about time we had a Secretary of Kmart


/kmart sucks
 
2010-10-06 02:56:09 PM
Oh sweet Jesus, the trolls are definitely going to handle this story with class...
 
2010-10-06 02:57:04 PM
Will Wapner be appointed to the Supreme Court now?
 
2010-10-06 02:57:13 PM
NewportBarGuy: 44rd? Really?

No, no, no, it's supposed to be "404'd!!!"
 
2010-10-06 02:57:14 PM
I've heard of these "Autreats". There usually isn't a lot of talking in the icebreaker sessions, but the whole thing is really well organized.
 
2010-10-06 02:57:26 PM
Looks like I picked the wrong day to dump my snowglobe futures.
 
2010-10-06 02:58:02 PM
MonkeyAngst: There are people who are so tied to the idea of the "deaf community" and deafness as an identity that they're aghast that anyone is trying to find a cure for deafness.

Acknowledging that something is a disorder does NOT mean relegating those who have it to second-class status. I get that homosexuality was also once considered a disorder, and I'm aware of the need for caution in what we label as such.


I asked about this and got called an ableist [specifically after stating - explain do not just toss out words like this at me.] Thus completing my useless liberal label series for personal enjoyment. One day I will win at my own bingo card.
 
2010-10-06 02:58:27 PM
I tried to read the article, really, but that guy's teeth were distracting.
 
2010-10-06 02:59:48 PM
I like this guy. He tells Jenny McCarthy and the vaccine-heads to go fark themselves in the first minute.
 
2010-10-06 03:01:02 PM
BUT ALL OF HIS APPOINTEES ARE RETARDED!!!
 
2010-10-06 03:02:28 PM
Rose of Sharon: I tried to read the article, really, but that guy's teeth were distracting.

I tried to as well, but memories of looking at autism sites online and seeing people calling autism the next stage in human evolution and calling for the elimination of NT's (neurotypicals, i.e. not autistic) keep coming back.

I hope most of those people are trolls.

I'm hoping the next DSM breaks out the spectrum a bit more, because classifying this guy as the same as someone completely withdrawn is a bit disingenuous
 
2010-10-06 03:03:27 PM
autistic kids rock.
 
2010-10-06 03:03:42 PM
FTA: "When Ari Ne'eman walked onstage at a college campus in Pennsylvania in June, he looked like a handsome young rabbi presiding over the bar mitzvah of a young Talmudic scholar."

I'm a dude, and I'm probably not the best judge on the attractiveness of other men, but in what universe would that guy be considered "handsome"?
 
2010-10-06 03:04:47 PM
air_wx: One anonymous emailer to a federal agency in Washington wrote that "assholes like Ari Ne'eman" should "have their tongues cut out" for suggesting that autistic people need respect, civil rights, and access to services more than they need pity and a cure.

Umm, why can't autistic people have respect, civil rights, and access to services while researchers work towards preventing autism for future generations? I fail to see how one prevents the other.


I think Ne'eman's point is that organizations like Autism Speaks raise a lot of money in the name of autism, but only a very small portion of the money they raise goes to help people with autism, and a very large portion goes to research on finding the cause. He also kind of implies (and I agree) that most of the "research" is bogus, and that they're essentially pouring a lot of money in the Jenny McCarthy vaccine blackhole.

/biased - I have two kids with autism
//vaccines don't cause autism
 
2010-10-06 03:05:02 PM
farkerts: BUT ALL OF HIS APPOINTEES ARE RETARDED!!!

Supporters too.
 
2010-10-06 03:05:21 PM
Sure it's the first?
course1.winona.edu
 
2010-10-06 03:05:33 PM
I Said: Let me give a pre-emptive "LOL" to all of the hilarious and original people who will make remarks like "BUT ALL OF HIS APPOINTEES ARE RETARDEDRetahdid"

LOL


Thank you, thank you very much.
 
2010-10-06 03:05:43 PM
Franchez: I've heard of these "Autreats". There usually isn't a lot of talking in the icebreaker sessions, but the whole thing is really well organized.

dammit, I can't stop laughing...
 
2010-10-06 03:06:06 PM
Shostie: mitchcumstein1: GAT_00: mitchcumstein1: 1.87m, METERS?? I knew he was a Eurocommienazisocialist.

That's not descriptive enough, given the prevalence of the metric system. It's better to say that he isn't a LiberianBurmeseAmerican, since those are the only three countries that don't use the metric system.

Burma? I'm not familiar.

Aka Myanmar.


Where Top Gun was filmed? Awesome! Time for some homoerotic volleyball!
 
2010-10-06 03:06:11 PM
Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: air_wx:
Umm, why can't autistic people have respect, civil rights, and access to services while researchers work towards preventing autism for future generations? I fail to see how one prevents the other.

Part of it would depend on how you define "cure". If the goal is to turn them into something more like a high-functioning aspie, I'd be onboard, but if you're trying to make everyone neurotypical*, I see that as a step backward.

*I don't like this term, but it's the best one available.


Neuronormative?

I don't like those terms, either (up to and including heteronormative) because it once again creates a division between groups of people for the purposes of exclusion. "Oh noes, don't oppress me with your $(type)normative ideas! I is SPESHUL."

Different =/= special.

And no, we don't need to "celebrate our differences" or "display our diversity" or have special months dedicated to talking about how special some people are. That's stupid. Tell you what, I'll treat you like a human being and you treat me like a human being, and we'll all get along great.
 
2010-10-06 03:06:17 PM
1.87 meters? What's that in English?
 
2010-10-06 03:06:53 PM
Secretary of Treasury Rain Man says, "Definitely not a good economy"
 
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