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(Buffalo News)   Police chief called the FBI on one of his own officers after the cop beat up a bar patron under color of authority. Suprisingly some people have a problem with this. Tag is for the chief of police   (buffalonews.com) divider line 111
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2010-10-03 10:35:14 AM
FTA: Kelley's attorneys, Personius and Melber, say the incident has blown out of proportion and should not be the subject of a federal civil rights case.

An individual was hired as a law enforcement officer against the recommendations of the background investigators AND objections of the Chief of Police through political influence. The individual had a protracted record of disciplinary problems, yet could not be terminated due to those same political connections. The individual misuses his authority as a law enforcement officer to assault a citizen acting under the color of that authority...That is exactly what Federal Statutes are designed for. Perhaps the State could have contacted, but local political influence often travels up to the State. Calling in the Feds was the appropriate, and likely the ONLY option.

If we had more decent cops out there willing to stand up to this kind of criminal behavior we might just have real police forces rather than good old boy's clubs.

/ex-cop, who left because of this kind of bullshiat.
 
2010-10-03 10:42:04 AM
ain't small town corruption great?
 
2010-10-03 10:53:30 AM
Good on the Chief.

Sucks that he had to go that far up to get something done, but at least he had the balls to do it.
 
2010-10-03 11:07:29 AM
Kelley's attorneys, Personius and Melber, say the incident has blown out of proportion and should not be the subject of a federal civil rights case.

"From our understanding, there was no beating. To our knowledge, the alleged victim suffered no injuries that required medical treatment," Personius said. "I think the most that can be said is that [J.Y.] stumbled when he and Sean were going outside, and Sean braced him up against a wall."


Ha ha ha ha ha he just stumbled.
 
2010-10-03 11:12:20 AM
basemetal: Ha ha ha ha ha he just stumbled.

And then fell down the stairs seven times....

/good for the chief
 
2010-10-03 11:12:58 AM
That's how it's done!


For cops wondering how to regain public trust, that's a huge start.
 
2010-10-03 11:27:37 AM
You know that the chief will have an "accident" soon enough.
 
2010-10-03 11:37:37 AM
Detectives who conducted a background investigation on Kelley before he was hired told the chief that Kelley -- because of some past disciplinary issues when he worked for the town highway department and a past domestic abuse incident -- was not a suitable candidate for police work. The Town Board hired Kelley anyway.

I'm curious how they were able to get around The Lautenberg Amendment, when it came time to issue him a service weapon.
 
2010-10-03 11:46:06 AM
Sgt Otter: Detectives who conducted a background investigation on Kelley before he was hired told the chief that Kelley -- because of some past disciplinary issues when he worked for the town highway department and a past domestic abuse incident -- was not a suitable candidate for police work. The Town Board hired Kelley anyway.

I'm curious how they were able to get around The Lautenberg Amendment, when it came time to issue him a service weapon.


They're cops. I'm sure they just fudged the paperwork and went on with it. Good on the chief for being in the 1% of decent cops.
 
2010-10-03 12:00:43 PM
Sgt Otter: I'm curious how they were able to get around The Lautenberg Amendment, when it came time to issue him a service weapon.

As long as the Domestic didn't result in Conviction Lautenberg does not apply, and with this guys alleged connections I am sure the charges were dropped.
Also there are ways around Lautenberg, go ask JAG
 
2010-10-03 12:09:03 PM
"I wasn't going to fire a man over a shoving match," Graber said. "When you fire someone, you're not just punishing him. You're punishing his wife and kids, too. This guy has little children. I was willing to give him another chance."

This kind of attitude is the reason that bad cops can kick your ass and get away with it.
 
2010-10-03 12:13:00 PM
FormlessOne: That's how it's done!


For cops wondering how to regain public trust, that's a huge start.


I don't think I can muster a big enough THIS for the above sentiment.
 
2010-10-03 12:13:43 PM
I was unaware it was the FBI's job to police the police.
 
2010-10-03 12:14:21 PM
"Color of Authority" "Anti-KKK Act" "Section 1982"
Sounds like someone has been brushing up on Civil Rights law. Won't go very far as the Office of Civil Rights (OCR) is too busy with:
1,Voter Rights violations
2,Gitmo,
3,Chicago.
 
2010-10-03 12:15:41 PM
A good cop.

Huh.

They do exist.

//off to look for leprechauns and their pots 'o gold
 
2010-10-03 12:19:46 PM
Good for the Police Chief for doing what was needed to get rid of the guy, although the sad part is the ten incidents the ex-cop had before the final one that caused him to resign.
 
2010-10-03 12:20:37 PM
Looks like Steve Guttenberg. Must be a lovable, if misunderstood cop.
 
2010-10-03 12:22:24 PM
jimmyego: I was unaware it was the FBI's job to police the police.

Who the hell else is going to do it? The rest of the goon squad who stands there laughing when cops do shiat like this? If the locals yokels won't do the right thing, then it's the feds job to make them.

i201.photobucket.com
 
2010-10-03 12:22:37 PM
My favorite part is where the aholes try to justify his actions as a "shoving match"... As in the dirty cop shoving the dudes head into a wall. That power tripping farker needs to spend a few years in PMITA prison.

/Put the booze down and smoke some cannabis. Won't make you so "punchy" and "stabby"
 
2010-10-03 12:24:41 PM
Recoil Therapy: basemetal: Ha ha ha ha ha he just stumbled.

And then fell down the stairs seven times....

/good for the chief


And landed on a plunger handle. Several times.

/Million to one shots, Jerry
 
2010-10-03 12:25:28 PM
I think that "public service" should include protecting the public from bad cops.
 
2010-10-03 12:26:57 PM
"I think the most that can be said is that [J.Y.] stumbled when he and Sean were going outside, and Sean braced him up against a wall."

That is just f-ing precious.
 
2010-10-03 12:31:12 PM
TheShavingofOccam123: Recoil Therapy: basemetal: Ha ha ha ha ha he just stumbled.

And then fell down the stairs seven times....

/good for the chief

And landed on a plunger handle. Several times.

/Million to one shots, Jerry


The interesting thing about million to one shots is that they happen nine times out of ten.
 
2010-10-03 12:32:22 PM
So if he was a "good cop" the police chief would have helped cover up that whole violation of civil rights thing at the bar? The police chief is no hero. He is trying to get rid of dead weight while having someone else do his dirty work.
 
2010-10-03 12:33:32 PM
I'm glad J.Y. didn't throw any punches back or bash this fark's head in, otherwise he'd be in jail and this clown would be a martyr.

/sorry for your kids but much better people than you have kids too
 
2010-10-03 12:33:56 PM
They removed his ability to run his force in any reasonable way. The only option left is to get the job done in an unreasonable way.

Good tag.
 
2010-10-03 12:34:03 PM
Ennuipoet: /ex-cop, who left because of this kind of bullshiat.

likewise, here.
/you can never look back
 
2010-10-03 12:35:31 PM
jimmyego: I was unaware it was the FBI's job to police the police.

That was one of the secondary reasons for the creation of the FBI. Remember that this was during Prohibition, when a lot of government and law enforcement officials were on the take, and the Feds were the ones appointed to route this.
 
2010-10-03 12:36:24 PM
Recoil Therapy: basemetal: Ha ha ha ha ha he just stumbled.

And then fell down the stairs seven times....

/good for the chief


How many cops does it take to push a citizen down the stairs?

None. He fell.
 
2010-10-03 12:42:51 PM
He called the FBI and asked agents to investigate one of his own officers.

This should not be extraordinary (though I realize it is). This should be standard protocol. The "no snitching" and "stick together" bullshiat is criminal behavior and should be treated as such. I can't imagine why it isn't, when I'm going into a dangerous situation I don't want my backup to be some psycho who beats up people for fun. I'd rather fight an armed criminal than a crooked cop.
 
2010-10-03 12:44:30 PM
aagrajag: A good cop.

Huh.

They do exist.

//off to look for leprechauns and their pots 'o gold


Yes, but sadly they are very few and far between they are considered to be mythical.
 
2010-10-03 12:44:35 PM
The aristocrats?
 
2010-10-03 12:46:51 PM
jimmyego: I was unaware it was the FBI's job to police the police.

you said police twice
 
2010-10-03 12:47:08 PM
This is bullshiat. Being a Cop means being a member of the brotherhood. You don't rat out your brother. You handle it in the family.
 
2010-10-03 12:47:49 PM
To everyone applauding the police chief for doing his job, keep in mind this guy hired this buffoon in 2005 only due to the political pressure exerted by said buffoon's father.

In case anyone doesn't want to read the whole article, here's a summary. Dude (Kelley) with a history of domestic abuse and disciplinary problems at his old municipal job tells his powerful daddy he wants to be po-lice.

A standard investigation is conducted and finds:

"Detectives who conducted a background investigation on Kelley before he was hired told the chief that Kelley -- because of some past disciplinary issues when he worked for the town highway department and a past domestic abuse incident -- was not a suitable candidate for police work. The Town Board hired Kelley anyway.

Field training officers who rode with Kelley during his first few weeks on the job told the chief that Kelley had attitude problems, including tardiness and a lack of motivation and was not suitable for police work. The chief kept him on anyway.

"Gehen said he had no choice, because Kelley's father was so close to Paul Clark,"


So the Chief, Gehen, keeps the guy on for five years. During this time Kelley is:

• Disciplined 10 times (4 suspensions totaling 57 days w/o pay)
• entered a jail while he was off-duty and tried to give booze to a female inmate
• suspended for 21 days after slapping his wife around during a drinking binge
• suspended for 30 days for sick time abuse and for trying to pick a bar fight with a fellow officer who had reported the incident involving Kelley's wife to a lieutenant

Now apparently dude comes into a bar with his wife, some guy makes a rude comment to him. He gets pissed off. The initiating party apparently apologized and even sent him a round of drinks but this guy:

• Call's an on-duty police dispatcher's personal cell phone and asks to talk to a specific officer (presumably a buddy of his). He tells this cop that he's being 'harassed' in the restaurant'
• After the cop arrives Kelley takes this kid, drags him outside and [allegedly] chokes him and smashes his head against the door.

What the fark? Why do we have these cops on our streets?

This isn't even because of corruption or nepotism, it all happened because of the perception of corruption and nepotism. Think about it: kid comes up to the police chief and says "I want to be a cop!". Police chief thinks he's not cut out for it, but realizes that the kid's father has close ties to someone powerful and has to make a decision. Does he take a moral stand and decline to hire this kid? Maybe lose his job, his livelihood? How will the kids go to college?

Why not just give the kid the job? I mean, what's the worst that could happen?

So the investigators recommend that the kid not be hired, the chief knows this. He also knows that he doesn't make the hiring decisions, the board does. So he presents the information to them in a flattering way, highlighting achievements (he finished his police training class) and downplaying (i.e. not mentioning at all) anything negative. Result? Unanimous vote to hire.

Sigh.
 
2010-10-03 12:48:36 PM
My dad's pretty good friends with some of the higher ups in my small town. Our police force is really damn clean, considering. Only story I've heard like this is the guy who fell down the stairs (of the one-story police HQ) (repeatedly) after being taken in for speeding while drunk, plowing off the road into a park and nearly hitting a cop and a handful of playing kids.
 
2010-10-03 12:48:40 PM
Crotchrocket Slim: jimmyego: I was unaware it was the FBI's job to police the police.

That was one of the secondary reasons for the creation of the FBI. Remember that this was during Prohibition, when a lot of government and law enforcement officials were on the take, and the Feds were the ones appointed to route this
money into their own pockets.

(I think you mean "rout".)
 
2010-10-03 12:51:07 PM
Lemme guess, Republican good ol' boy shiat again.
 
2010-10-03 12:51:25 PM
This mother farker isn't fit to be a civilian, let alone a cop.
 
2010-10-03 12:51:42 PM
veryunoriginal: keep in mind this guy hired this buffoon in 2005

No, he didn't. The Town Board hired him over the chief's protests.
 
2010-10-03 12:51:46 PM
crazyeddie: This is bullshiat. Being a Cop means being a member of the brotherhood. You don't rat out your brother. You handle it in the family.

*reads profile*

*snortles*

3/10 :)

Profile gave you away. If you want to sound like an uneducated troll, you have to put that you LOVE Jesus and that Christianity can do no wrong.
 
2010-10-03 12:54:04 PM
"I wasn't going to fire a man over a shoving match," Graber said. "When you fire someone, you're not just punishing him. You're punishing his wife and kids, too.

HE HITS HIS WIFE AND KIDS, YOU FARKING JACKASS!

Jesus! Shoot them all - the town city board and every drunken Irishman they forced the police department to hire.
 
2010-10-03 12:55:03 PM
What was the on-duty officer doing during this abuse?

He is also culpable.
 
2010-10-03 12:55:09 PM
crazyeddie: This is bullshiat. Being a Cop means being a member of the brotherhood. You don't rat out your brother. You handle it in the family.

Troll?
 
2010-10-03 12:55:13 PM
Ennuipoet: FTA: Kelley's attorneys, Personius and Melber, say the incident has blown out of proportion and should not be the subject of a federal civil rights case.

An individual was hired as a law enforcement officer against the recommendations of the background investigators AND objections of the Chief of Police through political influence. The individual had a protracted record of disciplinary problems, yet could not be terminated due to those same political connections. The individual misuses his authority as a law enforcement officer to assault a citizen acting under the color of that authority...That is exactly what Federal Statutes are designed for. Perhaps the State could have contacted, but local political influence often travels up to the State. Calling in the Feds was the appropriate, and likely the ONLY option.

If we had more decent cops out there willing to stand up to this kind of criminal behavior we might just have real police forces rather than good old boy's clubs.

/ex-cop, who left because of this kind of bullshiat.


THIS!!

/not ex-cop, agreeing with everything else you said
 
2010-10-03 12:56:32 PM
vudukungfu: Ennuipoet: /ex-cop, who left because of this kind of bullshiat.

likewise, here.
/you can never look back


Me three. Maybe there should be a support group.
 
2010-10-03 12:58:03 PM
jimmyego: I was unaware it was the FBI's job to police the police.

Wow. Anything else you don't know but ought to?
 
2010-10-03 12:59:04 PM
skinink: Good for the Police Chief for doing what was needed to get rid of the guy, although the sad part is the ten incidents the ex-cop had before the final one that caused him to resign.

Hopefully the rest of the cops won't get a case of the blue flu in protest of the investigation of this particular waste of oxygen. That's how they roll here when misconduct investigations start up.
 
2010-10-03 01:00:25 PM
t3knomanser: veryunoriginal: keep in mind this guy hired this buffoon in 2005

No, he didn't. The Town Board hired him over the chief's protests.


You're right, I should have said the chief effectively hired the guy by misrepresenting his record to the board.

FTA: Town records show that Clark, Graber and other Town Board members -- Craig J. Hicks, Christopher F. Osmanski and Christine Wleklinski-Bove, who is now a county legislator -- voted unanimously to hire Kelley.

Wleklinski-Bove declined to talk to a reporter last week about the vote. Hicks and Osmanski could not be reached.

Graber said he only remembers Gehen telling board members that Kelley had scored well on a police Civil Service test and advising that he should be hired. He also recalls that Kelley successfully completed his courses at a police training academy.

"I don't remember ever hearing one negative word about [Kelley] until August of 2009, when the police administration wanted us to fire him," Graber said.


Look, I'll grant that it's a possibility that the chief did present all the facts and the whole board decided to overrule him, hire an obviously bad candidate for a cop and is now covering their asses. But I firmly believe in Occam's razor. Wat's more likely? That the chief was being pressured by the future-cop's father's friend and made sure that Kelley was hired OR that the whole board was pressured to hire him but the chief was the lone holdout who fought against it? Before you answer, consider that the chief let multiple disciplinary problems slide and this kid had to step WAY out of line for the chief to consider firing him.
 
2010-10-03 01:00:33 PM
Many thanks to the Police Chief who found a way to have the officer independently investigated. This may be the way to go for police complaints to be handled without fear of a coverup. In Philly a police officer tried to buck the "code of silence" and his reward was not being protected by fellow officers during potentially dangerous situations.
 
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