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(Guardian)   FBI state that not all the hijackers knew it was a suicide mission.   ( divider line
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2001-10-11 05:11:37 PM  
So for all the rhetoric about doing it for Allah and all, they don't trust their own people enough to follow through with it...
2001-10-11 05:12:13 PM  
oops, Boobies
2001-10-11 05:13:56 PM  
What you are doing, Ahmed? You are going to crash us!
2001-10-11 05:25:53 PM  
"were you not at that meeting, ahmed? we discussed it..."
2001-10-11 05:26:27 PM  
For some reason that just makes it worse. They're even willing to kill their Islamic comrades. Heartless, and not very kosher, either... ba-dum-dum...
2001-10-11 05:28:21 PM  
Judging from the number of suicide bombers in Isreal this year, it doesn't seem like there's any shortage of suicidal fundie numbskulls over there. Sorry FBI, go fish.
2001-10-11 05:34:39 PM  
It's not hard to find rabid fundies who aren't very intelligent to act as suicide bombers. The trouble is finding the ones intelligent enough to learn a second language, fit in another country for a relatively long period of time without blowing their cover and crazy enough to kill themselves for their religion.
2001-10-11 05:34:41 PM  
This deserves the [image from too old to be available] tag more than the [image from too old to be available] one.

Oh... and b00bies!
2001-10-11 05:37:08 PM  
"Mahmouh Alibaba Kintar Hassinima, do you see that building"
"hit it"
2001-10-11 05:38:29 PM  
If they supported the hijacking, it is better that they died.
2001-10-11 05:40:41 PM  
Maybe they thought if they all jumped backwards just before they hit, they'd survive. Kind of like the elevator trick...
2001-10-11 05:43:32 PM  
"So, Mohamed (Atta), once we hijack the plane and land it, how are we going to escape?"
"Uhh... I'll tell you when we get there."

In any case, keeping everything in mind, I don't think we can really criticize their 'terrorism technique.' I'd say most evidence points to the fact that they knew what the phark they were doing (most unfortunately).
2001-10-11 05:47:39 PM  
"You'll get paid as soon as we land."

2001-10-11 05:49:03 PM  
"Ali, dude, thats yankee stadium, this is NY for sure. I TOLD YOU WE WERE LOST....I also told you those simulators were a waste of money."
2001-10-11 05:49:35 PM  
So they all thought it was just gonna be a "normal" hijacking? WTF?????

I guess they all weren't that bad then, huh.

Is this supposed to make it OK, or what?
2001-10-11 05:51:23 PM  
from the article, it seems that the only reason they think that 6 knew and the rest didn't is because only 6 left behind "suicide"-like notes

that's pretty flimsy

why leave a note behind when the act itself is meaningful enough
2001-10-11 05:52:23 PM  
It was more or less a secret that the so-called pilots missed class on the day they learned about landing... and never turned in the homework for that either.
2001-10-11 05:53:51 PM  
so did anyone read the small print?

do they still get the virgins??
2001-10-11 05:55:46 PM  

apparently 4 of them were trying to get a hooker the night before - but were arguing between themselves about the cost and in the end didn't get one.... you'd think if they knew they were going to die the next day that they wouldn't have been quite so concerned about their change!

this added to the no notes etc...
2001-10-11 05:59:03 PM  
Shows these swine (and I use that term 'cause I know they hate pork) for the pigs that they REALLY are. The Taliban lied about not knowing the whereabouts of bin Laden; bin Laden lied about his involvement in the WTC bombings; they both lied to those brainwashed hi-jackers.......... and on, and on.

Some people here would have you believe that America brought these acts upon itself as a result of it's foreign policy. Given the choice, whose policies would YOU prefer to live under?
.........I THOUGHT SO
2001-10-11 06:02:30 PM  
the hooker-n-change thing, I hadn't heard before

but, this might be one of those differences that make no difference

whether they knew or not, the events still happened

they're still martyrs to their supporters

nothing about the past or future will change based on any difference in the number of the 19 who knew or didn't know
2001-10-11 06:06:18 PM  
it is probably a 'taking wind out of sails' exercise - showing the fundies that they are being cheated by their own - not to trust them etc...
2001-10-11 06:10:20 PM  
I guess they thought after crashing into a building that they could de-board the plane and take the elevator down?
2001-10-11 06:23:33 PM  
Hmm, the educated ones left notes, and the not-so-educated ones did not. Either they did not know they were going to die, or they did not know how to write, do to the fact that they were the not-so-educated guys.

Even if the dumb guys were willing to die, it makes sense that they were not told. The fewer hijackers who know that death is certain, the less chance someone gets cold feet and screws up the whole operation.

I'm gonna hafta go searching for that hooker story. :^)
2001-10-11 06:25:36 PM  
So the smart ones left notes and the uneducated ones didn't. Maybe the stupid ones didn't feel like taking the time to write something down. Anyways if they didn't know I hope nobody is feeling bad that they died, ya know they still hi-jacked a plane. I hope all 19 hijackers are burning in hell!

Also about the hooker thing. They still needed money for the next day. Breakfast, gas, stuff like that.
2001-10-11 06:31:51 PM  
S0lidus - I agree!!! When you hijack, you take a huge risk, and in my opinion, you should die. Anyone who feels sympathy for 'those who didn't know' are Arshlochs!!! BTW - (no offense to my name).
2001-10-11 06:37:37 PM  
I meant, "those who didn't know are Archlöcher" - Sorry to the Deutsche Leute who caught my mistake. Could still be a mistake, but I haven't mastered the language yet.
2001-10-11 06:41:39 PM  
Hey Osama, my magic book says that I get corn dogs and tater tots regardless of who I kill.
2001-10-11 06:42:52 PM  
LMAO Osama_bin`Laden! You are one silly guy!! I laughed soooo hard at your comment, and then I laughed some more. You are really silly! If you are being sarcastic, then I laugh even more...ha ha! Go away to your cave little troll.


And you are a dick for using that name.
2001-10-11 06:48:44 PM  
i dunno it was kinda funny. profile is good for a chuckle, too
2001-10-11 06:50:25 PM  
from my understanding it wasn't just that they didn't leave notes - they didn't sort out their finances or leave wills -or any of the things that the fbi would expect, from their experience, that a person who is going to kill themself would do.
2001-10-11 07:01:45 PM  
"were you not at that meeting, ahmed? we discussed it..."

damn you, =) I busted up laughing and almost fell out of my chair at work.

Now my cubemates suspect I am not working...
2001-10-11 07:34:25 PM  
fark them.

Idolators, victims of a personality cult, they deserved to die before birth.
2001-10-11 08:22:04 PM  
poor muadibid he didn't want to die, he was just flying for a free meal
2001-10-11 08:32:27 PM  
"omar..why are we flying over new york?"
"well, sahim...we're gonna decrease our elevation and fly into the World Trade Center."
"ohh..ok. wait..what was the last thing you said?"
"we're gonna fly into the World Trade Center."
"umm...sure sahim...sure."
"whew! got kinda worried there!"
2001-10-11 08:49:13 PM  
This has been my theroy since the whole fiasco started.
2001-10-11 09:16:41 PM  
Arshloch- Der richtige Rechtschreibung ist "Arschloch"
Translation: the correct spelling is...
Oh, and- way to tell that jackass OBL off- he's been doing this sheet for quite a while now

Osama_Bin 'Laden- Go to hell, you pig. There's tasteful humor, there's tasteless humor, and then there's the shiat you pull. It isn't funny, no one likes it, GO AWAY!
2001-10-11 09:28:34 PM  
2001-10-11 09:34:15 PM  
I sooo hope there frequent flyer miles were revoked for this stunt!

Perhaps they thought they would fly completely through the building unscathed...I blame cartoons...DAAAAAMN YOU BERT!!!

Chances are...they are currently head marshmellow toaster on floor 93 of hades...if there is a hell and all that ...either there whole merry crew of Al Queerda network will be feeling toasty in there cute little dirt holes. Anyone order a stone baked terroroasts?
2001-10-11 09:36:18 PM  
Who the fark cares. Just another dead terrorist.
Round them up, intern them or kill them.
Its the only Christian thing to do.
2001-10-11 09:36:31 PM wills...where will the donkeys go? People, can we please consider the poor donkeys???
2001-10-11 09:38:14 PM  
Jefferson Davis: he who is sinless cast the first stone

ok, someone photoshop a pic of Flanders nuking Osama now
2001-10-11 09:38:44 PM  
Jeff Davis was never found of people of color.
2001-10-11 09:50:43 PM're crashing a 767 and expect to survive?

Just goes to show you how farking stupid terrorists can be.
2001-10-11 10:03:55 PM  
OsamaBL's profile: hehehehehe
2001-10-11 10:41:07 PM  
I thought that was the case initially when there were reports of some of the hijackers drinking alcohol, going to strip clubs, and one dancing at a wedding (video shown of him on the news)last year in Lebanon, also a frequent nightclub goer. The strict code of "their" Islam would not permit drinking, going to clubs etc. The leaders were the ones not taking part in this behavior and the younger ones had to of been offered some money. There is no way that these younger hijackers would be doing it for religious reasons since they were not strict. It was either for pure hatred or cash.
2001-10-11 11:42:51 PM  
FBI state that not all the hijackers knew it was a suicide mission.

Well boo hoo hoooooo on them!

BTW - Mohammed Atta, the supposed ring leader of the hijackers was one of the ones indulging himself with booze and lap dances while spending time in Florida.
He is one of the two that got into an arguement over paying a bill with a bartender in Florida.
I guess he had no trouble justifying that with his god in the end.
2001-10-11 11:46:36 PM  
Well, duh. Nothing like stating the bleedin' obvious!
2001-10-12 07:32:48 AM  
Maybe they had no assets or family so they didn't need wills? And if all their buddies were dying with each other, who would they leave notes to?

I haven't heard anything from The Greaseman (DJ) out of DC this time. Way back when that plane from National AP crashed into the 14th Street bridge, he was offering 1-way tickets and 5 not-so-frequent flyer miles from the AP to the bridge. He already proved he was completely tasteless with that one and "let's knock off 4 more and take the week" so what's holding him back this time?
2001-10-12 08:51:37 AM  
Well, if they had filed their TPS Reports on time, perhaps they would be more aware of these things.
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