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2010-10-01 09:03:11 AM
This letter brought to you by Powdermilk Biscuits and ketchup. Ketchup has natural mellowing agents that should have calmed this twunty congressional attention whore down years ago. Only commies don't eat ketchup. Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
 
2010-10-01 09:05:36 AM
To the rest of us she's kind of amusing:

i18.photobucket.com
 
2010-10-01 09:19:51 AM
Go back to bed, Old Scout.
 
2010-10-01 09:24:20 AM
Keillor took time out from The 2-Hour Lutheran Joke Fest to tell us what we already knew. I was, however, surprised at the tone of the letter. Apparently he can use decisive language and the active voice.

Either way, I suspect the idiots in the St. Cloud area will re-elect her.
 
2010-10-01 09:38:41 AM
UNC_Samurai: Either way, I suspect the idiots in the St. Cloud area will re-elect her.

Why is this? Is there something in the water that makes them group stupid? Is her opponent that inept?

I think she, Palin, O'Connell, Malkin, and Coulter should have a crazy-off. Five enter, only one returns. Do it PPV and they'd make millions.
 
2010-10-01 09:44:23 AM
Why is this ironic?
 
2010-10-01 09:46:29 AM
Demetrius: Is her opponent that inept?

IIRC he has a funny name, so people won't vote for him. So yes, they're that stupid.
 
2010-10-01 09:57:42 AM
The Elk River/St Cloud area is filled with rednecks, big, loud pickup trucks and cowboy (wannabes), so it's really no surprise.
 
2010-10-01 09:59:04 AM
Demetrius: Five enter, only one returns. Do it PPV and they'd make millions.

Steel cage match.
 
2010-10-01 09:59:05 AM
Its Autumn in Lake Wobegon and all the leaves are turning colors....beautiful colors that remind you of the time when you were a young man and running, just running through the leaves, fresh fall leaves, crisp and crunching, crunching under your feet...

Over at the Chatterbox Cafe, all the firemen are talking about this year's big Harvest Festival bonfire and how Mr. Gustaffsson is going to make everyone try his new flavor of sasparilla creme soda that he made in his basement, before his wife ran off with the milkman to Duluth.
 
2010-10-01 10:17:54 AM
Seriously? Bachmann is the evidence that Minnesota is farked up? Look at their recent electoral history. Jesse "The Body" Ventura lead the way for professional wrestler turned politicians. Amy Klobuchar is a dunce who can't wipe the deer-in-headlights, 'I'm-terrified-and-I-don't-belong-but-maybe-if-I-smile-really-awkwardly-and-pret end-people-won't-notice-me' look off her face. And then they elected Senator Stuart Smalley? How is Bachmann THE embarrassment of Minnesota? Seems to me she fits right in...
 
2010-10-01 10:32:42 AM
themanfromlamancha: Seriously? Bachmann is the evidence that Minnesota is farked up? Look at their recent electoral history. Jesse "The Body" Ventura lead the way for professional wrestler turned politicians. Amy Klobuchar is a dunce who can't wipe the deer-in-headlights, 'I'm-terrified-and-I-don't-belong-but-maybe-if-I-smile-really-awkwardly-and-pret end-people-won't-notice-me' look off her face. And then they elected Senator Stuart Smalley? How is Bachmann THE embarrassment of Minnesota? Seems to me she fits right in...

Nitpick here, but Ventura is minigun-guy from Predator before pro wrestler.

/and then conspiracy nut
 
2010-10-01 10:35:19 AM
In all fairness to Minnesota, Bachmann is embarrassing to the whole country.
 
2010-10-01 10:37:08 AM
media.nj.com

May or may not be more embarrassing for Minnesota.
 
2010-10-01 10:58:15 AM
kingoomieiii: Nitpick here, but Ventura is minigun-guy from Predator before pro wrestler.

wuh?

I think you have that backwards
 
2010-10-01 11:19:31 AM
"Obvious" tag seen passed out in a gutter next to a couple of empty bottles of MD 20/20.
 
2010-10-01 11:21:22 AM
Eddie Adams from Torrance: In all fairness to Minnesota, Bachmann is embarrassing to the whole country.
 
2010-10-01 11:22:15 AM
I react to Keillor's monologues the way Alex in Clockwork Orange did to Beethoven after undergoing the Ludovico treatment.

Really they're just godawful tripe.
 
2010-10-01 11:23:00 AM
vernonFL: Its Autumn in Lake Wobegon and all the leaves are turning colors....beautiful colors that remind you of the time when you were a young man and running, just running through the leaves, fresh fall leaves, crisp and crunching, crunching under your feet...

Over at the Chatterbox Cafe, all the firemen are talking about this year's big Harvest Festival bonfire and how Mr. Gustaffsson is going to make everyone try his new flavor of sasparilla creme soda that he made in his basement, before his wife ran off with the milkman to Duluth.


Brilliant parody or actual Garrison Keillor? I can't tell.
 
2010-10-01 11:23:54 AM
Man, how much of a d-bag do you have to be for Garrison Keillor to call you an a-hole?

That's like having Mr. Rogers threaten to dickslap you if you don't quit running your cock-gobbler.
 
2010-10-01 11:26:27 AM
Honestly, I've gotta give Uncle Grandpa a little credit for this. Dude's made soft-spoken feel-good quasi-nostalgia his stock and trade for decades. So in a state where passive-aggressive keeping-up of appearances is an unwritten state law, for him to come out and rock his little fishing boat even a LITTLE is relatively huge.

I LIVE in Minnesota, for chrissakes. If you picked out a random person's house, and pooped on their porch every night for a week without explanation? By Thursday at the latest, there'd be a roll of Charmin and a magazine left on the mat for you by sundown.
 
2010-10-01 11:27:16 AM
To be fair to Jesse, he did a pretty good turn as governor. For one thing, he made the state congress obey the state constitution and return budget surpluses to the people. I bought a Discman.

/CSB
//voted for Coleman for governor
///would've voted for Smalley if I still lived there
 
2010-10-01 11:27:44 AM
Demetrius: UNC_Samurai: Either way, I suspect the idiots in the St. Cloud area will re-elect her.

Why is this? Is there something in the water that makes them group stupid? Is her opponent that inept?


Can you imagine what it would be like to have to run against Michele Bachmann? Think of how utterly impossible it would be to get face time against something so ferociously crazy. Really sucks all the air out of the room.
 
2010-10-01 11:30:18 AM
The man with the greatest face for radio ever has spoken Michelle.

Get your ass to Lake Wobegon and repent.
 
2010-10-01 11:30:36 AM
I don't dig PHC, but Keillor is a great storyteller. News from Lake Wobegon told by anyone else wouldn't be nearly as entertaining.
 
2010-10-01 11:31:06 AM
Demetrius: UNC_Samurai: Either way, I suspect the idiots in the St. Cloud area will re-elect her.

Why is this? Is there something in the water that makes them group stupid? Is her opponent that inept?

I think she, Palin, O'Connell, Malkin, and Coulter should have a crazy-off. Five enter, only one returns. Do it PPV and they'd make millions.


It's the R next to her name, nothing more.
 
2010-10-01 11:33:57 AM
themanfromlamancha: Seriously? Bachmann is the evidence that Minnesota is farked up? Look at their recent electoral history. Jesse "The Body" Ventura lead the way for professional wrestler turned politicians. Amy Klobuchar is a dunce who can't wipe the deer-in-headlights, 'I'm-terrified-and-I-don't-belong-but-maybe-if-I-smile-really-awkwardly-and-pret end-people-won't-notice-me' look off her face. And then they elected Senator Stuart Smalley? How is Bachmann THE embarrassment of Minnesota? Seems to me she fits right in...

Came to post this, although I forgot about Amy.

What is it with Minnesota anyway?
 
2010-10-01 11:35:42 AM
Heh... Her insanity embarrasses the whole nation, not just Minnesota.
 
2010-10-01 11:36:40 AM
volfan: The Elk River/St Cloud area is filled with rednecks, big, loud pickup trucks and cowboy (wannabes), so it's really no surprise.

Minnesota cowboys? Dat's some funny shiat right der.
 
2010-10-01 11:41:16 AM
meat0918: Demetrius: UNC_Samurai: Either way, I suspect the idiots in the St. Cloud area will re-elect her.

Why is this? Is there something in the water that makes them group stupid? Is her opponent that inept?

I think she, Palin, O'Connell, Malkin, and Coulter should have a crazy-off. Five enter, only one returns. Do it PPV and they'd make millions.

It's the R next to her name, nothing more.


Really? (new window)

I think... (new window)

It might be something more. (new window)

There may be some overlap. :-)
 
2010-10-01 11:42:13 AM
Shes kinda funny lookin', donchaknow?
 
2010-10-01 11:43:44 AM
Rapmaster2000: I don't dig PHC, but Keillor is a great storyteller. News from Lake Wobegon told by anyone else wouldn't be nearly as entertaining.

I'm getting a divide by zero error from your post.
 
2010-10-01 11:44:28 AM
Nabb1: May or may not be more embarrassing for Minnesota.

The Vikings is where quarterbacks go to die.
 
2010-10-01 11:45:22 AM
Her opponent if I recall is a state congressman who is completely forgettable. Someone else on the site admonished me for not even knowing her name (Tarryl Clark!) and I sent an email to her campaign which was more or less unfocused rage on how they are throwing away the easiest election in the history of the world.

Ventura was useful to the state because he was the classic example of someone with enough money to get in the spotlight and who was removed from the typical partisan fighting. A refreshing change of pace, and he at least spoke his mind and didn't hide behind platitudes and positioning. He got a lot of flak for it but I would much prefer a dozen Venturas to a single Coleman. Useless POS that he was.

I voted for 'Stuart Smalley' and wouldn't you know he's one of the most credible and respectful senators in this divisive political climate. Say what you will about the man's past but he is certainly no embarassment to the senate now.
 
2010-10-01 11:45:32 AM
Ironic? The tag can't even be explained by the Alanis Morissette definition of ironic.
 
2010-10-01 11:46:58 AM
Rapmaster2000: I don't dig PHC, but Keillor is a great storyteller. News from Lake Wobegon told by anyone else wouldn't be nearly as entertaining.

The assumption being that it's entertaining now.

I've listened to PHC before, mainly when I was in the car and there was nothing else on, and quite frankly, it sucks. The music is good, as long as Keillor isn't singing, but that's the only real bright spot in a rather dreary and unfunny show. I call it LuLuLu: It's about Lutherans, Lutefisk, and something else that may or may not begin with 'Lu', or have 'lu' in the words somewhere.

Now I end up listening to Radio Timtron Worldwide instead. Anyone who drives around in a cadaverlac and lives in a pus bus is guaranteed to be hilarious.
 
2010-10-01 11:48:31 AM
volfan: The Elk River/St Cloud area is filled with rednecks, big, loud pickup trucks and cowboy (wannabes), so it's really no surprise.

Not entirely fair. Stearns County (where St. Cloud is) went for Tinklenberg, her opponent, by several percentage points.

She won by several points in Anoka county. Ultra-beige burbs, where the pants-pissing residents won't let little Ashleigh and Hunter do anything in downtown St. Paul. "It's just so dangerous, you know". That's the heart of Bachmann country.
 
2010-10-01 11:48:39 AM
Bachmann? I'd turn her over and drive, if you know what I mean.
 
2010-10-01 11:50:07 AM
dittybopper: Bachmann? I'd turn her over and drive, if you know what I mean.

Would you be taking care of business?
 
2010-10-01 11:52:29 AM
dittybopper: Bachmann? I'd turn her over and drive, if you know what I mean.

captionsearch.com

/seriously, I had navigated away from this page and almost got up to get breakfast before I saw it
 
2010-10-01 11:53:51 AM
Lawnchair: volfan: The Elk River/St Cloud area is filled with rednecks, big, loud pickup trucks and cowboy (wannabes), so it's really no surprise.

Not entirely fair. Stearns County (where St. Cloud is) went for Tinklenberg, her opponent, by several percentage points.

She won by several points in Anoka county. Ultra-beige burbs, where the pants-pissing residents won't let little Ashleigh and Hunter do anything in downtown St. Paul. "It's just so dangerous, you know". That's the heart of Bachmann country.


I'd like to add that, at the beginning of the 2008 election cycle, I mistakenly believed that El Tinklenberg was a professional wrestler.

www.adamcarolla.com
 
2010-10-01 11:55:19 AM
Lawnchair: She won by several points in Anoka county. Ultra-beige burbs, where the pants-pissing residents won't let little Ashleigh and Hunter do anything in downtown St. Paul. "It's just so dangerous, you know". That's the heart of Bachmann country.

[giantthis.jpg]
 
2010-10-01 11:55:39 AM
Rapmaster2000: dittybopper: Bachmann? I'd turn her over and drive, if you know what I mean.

Would you be taking care of business?


Every day? Every way?
 
2010-10-01 11:59:22 AM
PizzaJedi81: Rapmaster2000: dittybopper: Bachmann? I'd turn her over and drive, if you know what I mean.

Would you be taking care of business?

Every day? Every way?


Maybe one can read her diary while they are taking care of business.
 
2010-10-01 12:02:15 PM
Garrison Keillor, we farking get it already that Lutherans are dour.
 
2010-10-01 12:03:24 PM
Garrison Keillor: Michele Bachmann 'embarrassing' to Minnesota
bwesb: Michele Bachmann 'embarrassing' to the human race.
 
2010-10-01 12:05:12 PM
Demetrius: I think she, Palin, O'Connell, Malkin, and Coulter should have a crazy-off. Five enter, only one returns. Do it PPV and they'd make millions.

Why does one have to return?
 
2010-10-01 12:10:10 PM
themanfromlamancha: Seriously? Bachmann is the evidence that Minnesota is farked up? Look at their recent electoral history. Jesse "The Body" Ventura lead the way for professional wrestler turned politicians. Amy Klobuchar is a dunce who can't wipe the deer-in-headlights, 'I'm-terrified-and-I-don't-belong-but-maybe-if-I-smile-really-awkwardly-and-pret end-people-won't-notice-me' look off her face. And then they elected Senator Stuart Smalley? How is Bachmann THE embarrassment of Minnesota? Seems to me she fits right in...

Wasn't Ventura's biggest failure as a politician saying that St Paul's streets were designed by a drunken Irishman (pretty much true)?
 
2010-10-01 12:10:31 PM
To anyone "In The Know": How are the Census 2010 preliminary results looking in re: MN-6, reapportioning congresscritters, etc...? Last I saw was (I think) how FL was looking to gain one seat... assuming MN was the loser.

/just curious
 
2010-10-01 12:20:49 PM
Misch: Demetrius: I think she, Palin, O'Connell, Malkin, and Coulter should have a crazy-off. Five enter, only one returns. Do it PPV and they'd make millions.

Why does one have to return?


There must be a champion of derp. The moron masses must have a leader.
 
2010-10-01 12:21:08 PM
Elandriel: Her opponent if I recall is a state congressman who is completely forgettable. Someone else on the site admonished me for not even knowing her name (Tarryl Clark!) and I sent an email to her campaign which was more or less unfocused rage on how they are throwing away the easiest election in the history of the world.

Well, Clark's ads have been all over the place the last few weeks. Even Bachmann referred to her in her Jim ads by name. It is the most expensive and competitive House race in the state this year. Right behind is the race for MN 1, where Tim Walz is trying to hold onto his seat.
 
2010-10-01 12:26:32 PM
gameshowhost: To anyone "In The Know": How are the Census 2010 preliminary results looking in re: MN-6, reapportioning congresscritters, etc...? Last I saw was (I think) how FL was looking to gain one seat... assuming MN was the loser.

/just curious


I heard on either Monday or Tuesday that preliminary census results showed Minnesota retaining all its seats. I think Missouri is slated to lose one instead.
 
2010-10-01 12:27:22 PM
And Garrison Keillor (the homophobic bigot with the red socks) is embarassing to NPR.
 
2010-10-01 12:28:46 PM
What's a garrison kellar? Isn't that what they let you do in Midieval II: Total War once you've researched masonry?
 
2010-10-01 12:29:36 PM
Ashelth: Wasn't Ventura's biggest failure as a politician saying that St Paul's streets were designed by a drunken Irishman (pretty much true)?

Then, on the other hand, we've got Minneapolis. I mean, the grid is laid out pretty straightforwardly. But whoever named the bloody streets needed a swift boot to the junk. Most of the major downtown streets are numbered, and at a certain point, they reverse direction and start going back up the other way. Meaning that if you told someone to meet you at the corner of 4th and 6th, that could conceivably be any of four different intersections if they didn't specify the North or South versions of either.

And to make it even weirder, they put the directional designation at the end of the street name. Meaning, whereas in most places, they'd say "South 14th Street," here, they say "14th Street South." It's nutty. I've been here almost four years, and I still don't know how people find their way around most of the time. Seriously...Not long after moving here, I tried to go to a job interview downtown, and all I had was numbers to go by. My first two tries landed me at empty buildings in the warehouse district before it was third time lucky. I was almost a half-hour late, but they laughed it off and understood. And I did wind up getting an offer. But still...bizarre.

/threadjack
 
2010-10-01 12:30:58 PM
IamKaiserSoze!!!: themanfromlamancha: Seriously? Bachmann is the evidence that Minnesota is farked up? Look at their recent electoral history. Jesse "The Body" Ventura lead the way for professional wrestler turned politicians. Amy Klobuchar is a dunce who can't wipe the deer-in-headlights, 'I'm-terrified-and-I-don't-belong-but-maybe-if-I-smile-really-awkwardly-and-pret end-people-won't-notice-me' look off her face. And then they elected Senator Stuart Smalley? How is Bachmann THE embarrassment of Minnesota? Seems to me she fits right in...

Came to post this, although I forgot about Amy.

What is it with Minnesota anyway?


It's extremely northeastern California.
/minnehaha alum
 
2010-10-01 12:32:34 PM
thismomentinblackhistory: Garrison Keillor (the homophobic bigot with the red socks)

Citation please? I hate the guy, but have a hard time defending my position against midwesterners who love the dude.
 
2010-10-01 12:34:02 PM
Ball of Confusion: IamKaiserSoze!!!: themanfromlamancha: Seriously? Bachmann is the evidence that Minnesota is farked up? Look at their recent electoral history. Jesse "The Body" Ventura lead the way for professional wrestler turned politicians. Amy Klobuchar is a dunce who can't wipe the deer-in-headlights, 'I'm-terrified-and-I-don't-belong-but-maybe-if-I-smile-really-awkwardly-and-pret end-people-won't-notice-me' look off her face. And then they elected Senator Stuart Smalley? How is Bachmann THE embarrassment of Minnesota? Seems to me she fits right in...

Came to post this, although I forgot about Amy.

What is it with Minnesota anyway?

It's extremely northeastern California.
/minnehaha alum


Heh....I almost added 'is it the midwest cali?', but was too lazy and moved on.
 
2010-10-01 12:36:11 PM
MaxxLarge: Ashelth: Wasn't Ventura's biggest failure as a politician saying that St Paul's streets were designed by a drunken Irishman (pretty much true)?

Then, on the other hand, we've got Minneapolis. I mean, the grid is laid out pretty straightforwardly. But whoever named the bloody streets needed a swift boot to the junk. Most of the major downtown streets are numbered, and at a certain point, they reverse direction and start going back up the other way. Meaning that if you told someone to meet you at the corner of 4th and 6th, that could conceivably be any of four different intersections if they didn't specify the North or South versions of either.

And to make it even weirder, they put the directional designation at the end of the street name. Meaning, whereas in most places, they'd say "South 14th Street," here, they say "14th Street South." It's nutty. I've been here almost four years, and I still don't know how people find their way around most of the time. Seriously...Not long after moving here, I tried to go to a job interview downtown, and all I had was numbers to go by. My first two tries landed me at empty buildings in the warehouse district before it was third time lucky. I was almost a half-hour late, but they laughed it off and understood. And I did wind up getting an offer. But still...bizarre.

/threadjack


St Anthony Main area is a mess.
"We're at 1st and 1st"
"So am I, I don't see you!"
...20 minutes pass...
"... God dammit so much, which 1st and 1st?"
(Admittedly we were all new to the area at the time and hadn't quite gotten used to the fact that NE is NW, SE is NE, N is W, and S is central, W is SW, and E is S...
 
2010-10-01 12:39:26 PM
AcneVulgaris: Misch: Demetrius: I think she, Palin, O'Connell, Malkin, and Coulter should have a crazy-off. Five enter, only one returns. Do it PPV and they'd make millions.

Why does one have to return?

There must be a champion of derp. The moron masses must have a leader.


Without its master's command, the restless moron masses will become an even greater threat to this world. Control must be maintained. There must always be a Derp King.
 
2010-10-01 12:40:46 PM
Obama is embarrassing to America.

/scoldfessor asshole
 
2010-10-01 12:41:10 PM
thismomentinblackhistory - And Garrison Keillor (the homophobic bigot with the red socks) is embarassing to NPR.



"The column was done tongue-in-cheek, always a risky thing, and was meant to be funny, another risky thing these days, and two sentences about gay people lit a fire in some readers and sent them racing to their computers to fire off some jagged e-mails,"

I live in a small world-the world of entertainment, musicians, writers-in which gayness is as common as having brown eyes. Ever since I was in college, gay men and women have been friends, associates, heroes, adversaries, and in that small world, we talk openly and we kid each other and think nothing of it.

But in the larger world, gayness is controversial. In almost every state, gay marriage would be voted down if put on a ballot. Gay men and women have been targeted by the right wing as a hot-button issue. And so gay people out in the larger world feel besieged to some degree.

In the small world I live in, they feel accepted and cherished as individuals. ... My column spoke as we would speak in my small world and it was read by people in the larger world and thus the misunderstanding. And for that, I am sorry. Gay people who set out to be parents can be just as good parents as anybody else, and they know that, and so do I." - Garrison Keillor


http://www.sfbaytimes.com/?sec=article&article_id=6220 (new window)


Yeah... He totally sounds ready to throw on a pair of Doc Martens and head down to the Castro for some queer-stomping.
 
2010-10-01 12:49:24 PM
Superjew: thismomentinblackhistory: Garrison Keillor (the homophobic bigot with the red socks)

Citation please? I hate the guy, but have a hard time defending my position against midwesterners who love the dude.


Link (new window)

FTA: "The country has come to accept stereotypical gay men -- sardonic fellows with fussy hair who live in over-decorated apartments with a striped sofa and a small weird dog and who worship campy performers and go in for flamboyance now and then themselves. If they want to be accepted as couples and daddies, however, the flamboyance may have to be brought under control. Parents are supposed to stand in back and not wear chartreuse pants and black polka-dot shirts. That's for the kids. It's their show."

Never really liked him after that, including the nonapology apology he gave for it. Dan Savage wrote some of the meanest, funniest response to Keillor's article though.
 
2010-10-01 12:50:36 PM
Say what you will about Garrison Keillor, and I'm not really a fan of PHC, but that guy has got one of the best radio voices I've ever heard.

I do like the poem of the day segment he does on NPR in the mornings...
 
2010-10-01 12:50:46 PM
lincoln65: gameshowhost: To anyone "In The Know": How are the Census 2010 preliminary results looking in re: MN-6, reapportioning congresscritters, etc...? Last I saw was (I think) how FL was looking to gain one seat... assuming MN was the loser.

/just curious

I heard on either Monday or Tuesday that preliminary census results showed Minnesota retaining all its seats. I think Missouri is slated to lose one instead.



Actually, it looks like NY will lose 2 with Florida gaining 2.
Link
 
2010-10-01 12:53:50 PM
thismomentinblackhistory: Never really liked him after that, including the nonapology apology he gave for it. Dan Savage wrote some of the meanest, funniest response to Keillor's article though.

I never heard about this little controversy until this thread. I just read the column and I guess I don't get the issue.

If anything, it sounded like he was arguing for monogamy, in a half-hearted manner--not necessarily against gay marriage. Was the article taken as an attack on gay marriage?
 
2010-10-01 12:57:12 PM
thismomentinblackhistory: The country has come to accept stereotypical gay men -- sardonic fellows with fussy hair who live in over-decorated apartments with a striped sofa and a small weird dog and who worship campy performers and go in for flamboyance now and then themselves. If they want to be accepted as couples and daddies, however, the flamboyance may have to be brought under control. Parents are supposed to stand in back and not wear chartreuse pants and black polka-dot shirts. That's for the kids. It's their show."

Your satire meter is broken. He was obviously being facetious.
 
2010-10-01 12:59:28 PM
Skleenar: thismomentinblackhistory: Never really liked him after that, including the nonapology apology he gave for it. Dan Savage wrote some of the meanest, funniest response to Keillor's article though.

I never heard about this little controversy until this thread. I just read the column and I guess I don't get the issue.

If anything, it sounded like he was arguing for monogamy, in a half-hearted manner--not necessarily against gay marriage. Was the article taken as an attack on gay marriage?


Dan Savage's Response (new window)

At the heart of the controversy, for many, was Keillor's own checkered personal history with marriage. It is a great read.
 
2010-10-01 01:00:27 PM

I see that Dan Savage got riled up about this paragraph:

The country has come to accept stereotypical gay men-sardonic fellows with fussy hair who live in over-decorated apartments with a striped sofa and a small weird dog and who worship campy performers and go in for flamboyance now and then themselves. If they want to be accepted as couples and daddies, however, the flamboyance may have to be brought under control. Parents are supposed to stand in back and not wear chartreuse pants and black polka-dot shirts. That's for the kids. It's their show.


I guess I read the fact Keillor identified them as "stereotypical" indicated that he realized that this was, in fact, a stereotype, and not necessarily a true picture of what a gay parent is necessarily like. I guess I just read it as a "hey parents, don't embarrass your kids" message, with tongue in cheek.

I don't see him in any way advocating that this sort of person shouldn't be a parent. In fact the premise of the article is that he accepts that they will be.

Oh, well. You know how touchy gay people are.
 
2010-10-01 01:01:54 PM
thismomentinblackhistory: At the heart of the controversy, for many, was Keillor's own checkered personal history with marriage. It is a great read.

Yeah, I get that. But all the same, I didn't read it as moralizing--I read it merely as nostalgia for a simpler (if mythical) time.

Whatever.
 
2010-10-01 01:03:42 PM
vernonFL: thismomentinblackhistory: The country has come to accept stereotypical gay men -- sardonic fellows with fussy hair who live in over-decorated apartments with a striped sofa and a small weird dog and who worship campy performers and go in for flamboyance now and then themselves. If they want to be accepted as couples and daddies, however, the flamboyance may have to be brought under control. Parents are supposed to stand in back and not wear chartreuse pants and black polka-dot shirts. That's for the kids. It's their show."

Your satire meter is broken. He was obviously being facetious.


Possibly. He's usually a little more obvious but he very well could be mocking that attitude. As someone else said, "Keillor is a good writer, and when he is doing satire it is unmistakable if one reads all the way to the end of the piece. If this is satire, then both he and Salon's editors were having an extremely bad day."

Don't forget that the whole point of me sharing this with you is to slap it in the face of PHC fans. He's a fun target.
 
2010-10-01 01:05:29 PM
Skleenar: ...I didn't read it as moralizing--I read it merely as nostalgia for a simpler (if mythical) time.

Which is pretty much Keillor's whole schtick...
 
2010-10-01 01:06:38 PM
Welp, RockIsDead, that was such a pitiful trolling attempt and an even worse threadjack attempt that I'm going to actually go ahead and spent the twelve seconds of effort it takes to add you to my ignore list. undflickertail: Well, Clark's ads have been all over the place the last few weeks.i>

All she needs to do to advertise is sample Bachmann's ludicrous statements. The links above directing to Bachmann's lunacy? That would probably be enough. Pants-shiatting terror at letting the little girls head to the big citieis aside, most urban & suburban Minnesota residents are still turned off by head-bashing stupidity.

For the rural it's a way of life to be sure but they're the ones who are going to end up left behind so it's not like I give a crap.
 
2010-10-01 01:07:29 PM
If Bachmann and O'Donnell occupy the same room together, is there a risk of their combined super-massive idiocy imploding into a dangerous singularity of stupid?
 
2010-10-01 01:08:15 PM
Welp, Elandriel, that was such a pitiful posting structure attempt that I'm actually going to go ahead and spend the two seconds necessary to punch you in the balls so you don't make the same idiotic mistakes again.
 
2010-10-01 01:16:27 PM
thismomentinblackhistory - Superjew: thismomentinblackhistory: Garrison Keillor (the homophobic bigot with the red socks)

Citation please? I hate the guy, but have a hard time defending my position against midwesterners who love the dude.

Link (new window)

FTA: "The country has come to accept stereotypical gay men -- sardonic fellows with fussy hair who live in over-decorated apartments with a striped sofa and a small weird dog and who worship campy performers and go in for flamboyance now and then themselves. If they want to be accepted as couples and daddies, however, the flamboyance may have to be brought under control. Parents are supposed to stand in back and not wear chartreuse pants and black polka-dot shirts. That's for the kids. It's their show."



Never really liked him after that, including the nonapology apology he gave for it. Dan Savage wrote some of the meanest, funniest response to Keillor's article though.



Nonapology apology?

I get so sick of that... a non-apology apology is when someone says "I'm sorry it bothered you, but I'm not going to take back what I said."

Keillor that he was sorry for offending anyone, clarified what he said by pointing out that is totally tongue in cheek... i.e. untrue and not what he believes... and followed it up by expressing great affection for gays and describing his world as one of total acceptance AND closed by endorsing gay parenthood (and you can bet your ass he knowingly lost himself a chunk of his geriatric audience in doing so.)

What did he have to do, blow a guy?

Dan Savage was being a pissy little biatch who didn't want to admit that he overreacted, misjudged Keillor, and flew off the handle for nothing.

Garrison Keillor didn't joke about anything that Kathy Griffin doesn't joke about every five seconds when talking about her gays, and as we all know because she says it 50 times a minute "THE gays LOVE her."

Dan Savage went batshiat because he assumed someone as unhip and Middle American as Garrison Keillor couldn't possibly be fond of gays and engaging in good-natured teasing.

And for the record, I'm very liberal and very pro-gay rights, and I've never listened to or read Garrison Keillor once in my entire life nor given him more than two seconds thought at any given time before this afternoon... but homophobia and bigotry are serious charges and should be leveled only with great care.
 
2010-10-01 01:22:34 PM
Skleenar: Yeah, I get that. But all the same, I didn't read it as moralizing--I read it merely as nostalgia for a simpler (if mythical) time.

Which has been Keillor's schtick for decades, now.

Really, THIS is a controversy?
 
2010-10-01 01:22:54 PM
Welcome to Lake Wobegon, where all children are above average, gay parents don't upstage the Christmas pageant by wearing more lace and gold lamé than the angels, and right wing politicians are as dumb as a snail with its foot in its mouth. And let us be clear, not to mention redudant, by pointing out that snails are pretty much all foot except for those charming little houses they carry around on their backs.
 
2010-10-01 01:23:45 PM
Or, in other words, what Keylock71 already said.
 
2010-10-01 01:26:12 PM
Elandriel:
I voted for 'Stuart Smalley' and wouldn't you know he's one of the most credible and respectful senators in this divisive political climate. Say what you will about the man's past but he is certainly no embarassment to the senate now.


I would say it's the other way around.
 
2010-10-01 01:27:24 PM
Elandriel: For the rural it's a way of life to be sure but they're the ones who are going to end up left behind so it's not like I give a crap.

Again, it's *not the rural*. Okay, it is in much of the country. But Minnesota is the exception.

My grandparents-in-law live in Swift County, MN. Can't honestly get much more Lake Wobegon. Not some college-town outlier, either. Lotta old folks. And, seriously, these folks are more liberal than you'd think. Went straight DFL in the 2008 races. Didn't vote for Bush either time. Serious Mondale-Wellstone people.

The Bachmann, Coleman, and Pawlenty base is in Blaine, Coon Rapids, Eagan, and Eden Prairie.
 
2010-10-01 01:33:10 PM
Tarryl Clark sounds like a black man.

Which is odd, since she is a white woman with blond curling bangs who looks like she might have been a debutante, judging from the broad, ready smile, good looks and hair style that would not have been out-of-place in a Little League Mother from 1955 to present.

Yes, some suburban women do keep the same hair style from college through to the time they have to start wearing wigs because their hair is thinning to the point of baldness. They are usually known as Supermom behind their backs.

I guess this is where the irony comes in. Being dissed by Garrison Kellor is like being dissed by Ned Flanders, Mary Tyler Moore, and That Girl at a suburban coffee klatsch.
 
2010-10-01 01:40:41 PM
Lawnchair: The Bachmann, Coleman, and Pawlenty base is in Blaine, Coon Rapids, Eagan, and Eden Prairie.

I would say the outer outer "suburbs" are her base

Link (new window)
 
2010-10-01 01:48:02 PM
themanfromlamancha: Seriously? Bachmann is the evidence that Minnesota is farked up? Look at their recent electoral history. Jesse "The Body" Ventura lead the way for professional wrestler turned politicians. Amy Klobuchar is a dunce who can't wipe the deer-in-headlights, 'I'm-terrified-and-I-don't-belong-but-maybe-if-I-smile-really-awkwardly-and-pret end-people-won't-notice-me' look off her face. And then they elected Senator Stuart Smalley? How is Bachmann THE embarrassment of Minnesota? Seems to me she fits right in...

Well, I respect the first 3 people you mention. I certainly do not respect Bachmann in any way.
 
2010-10-01 01:50:09 PM
Mr. Keillor is a very nice guy. And I am being serious. When my fiancee's brother was killed in a car wreck(at 19 yrs old) the family wrote to him telling him how much their son enjoyed his work. Not only did he respond but he hosted the fund raiser for a scholarship fund in their sons name.

They have nothing but good things to say about the man.
 
2010-10-01 01:56:27 PM
themanfromlamancha: Seriously? Bachmann is the evidence that Minnesota is farked up? Look at their recent electoral history. Jesse "The Body" Ventura lead the way for professional wrestler turned politicians. Amy Klobuchar is a dunce who can't wipe the deer-in-headlights, 'I'm-terrified-and-I-don't-belong-but-maybe-if-I-smile-really-awkwardly-and-pret end-people-won't-notice-me' look off her face. And then they elected Senator Stuart Smalley cum laude Harvard graduate with a degree in political science? How is Bachmann THE embarrassment of Minnesota? Seems to me she fits right in...



Though, I know you guys "don't cotton much to book learnin'" If only he were a plumber, then he might have some real credibility.
 
2010-10-01 01:57:29 PM
heinekenftw: AcneVulgaris: Misch: Demetrius: I think she, Palin, O'Connell, Malkin, and Coulter should have a crazy-off. Five enter, only one returns. Do it PPV and they'd make millions.

Why does one have to return?

There must be a champion of derp. The moron masses must have a leader.

Without its master's command, the restless moron masses will become an even greater threat to this world. Control must be maintained. There must always be a Derp King.


Bwahahahaha!!
 
2010-10-01 02:00:52 PM

I just contributed to her opponent. You should to (new window).


blogs.citypages.com
Who knows maybe Bachmann will quit and write a book.>
 
2010-10-01 02:05:40 PM
technicolor-misfit: themanfromlamancha: Seriously? Bachmann is the evidence that Minnesota is farked up? Look at their recent electoral history. Jesse "The Body" Ventura lead the way for professional wrestler turned politicians. Amy Klobuchar is a dunce who can't wipe the deer-in-headlights, 'I'm-terrified-and-I-don't-belong-but-maybe-if-I-smile-really-awkwardly-and-pret end-people-won't-notice-me' look off her face. And then they elected Senator Stuart Smalley cum laude Harvard graduate with a degree in political science? How is Bachmann THE embarrassment of Minnesota? Seems to me she fits right in...



Though, I know you guys "don't cotton much to book learnin'" If only he were a plumber, then he might have some real credibility.


I'm all in favor of book learnin'. I've done quite a bit of it myself. I can't overlook "Stuart Saves His Family," though. The horror... the... horror...

/Very much enjoyed "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot."
 
2010-10-01 02:09:03 PM
www.theaterticketsnow.com
I smell twattage...and butt ugly....someone needs a ketchup butt douche.
 
2010-10-01 02:36:47 PM
impaler: Lawnchair: The Bachmann, Coleman, and Pawlenty base is in Blaine, Coon Rapids, Eagan, and Eden Prairie.

I would say the outer outer "suburbs" are her base

Link (new window)


Good to see that White Bear Lake isn't in the 6th district.

/Go Bears!
 
2010-10-01 02:38:14 PM
JusticeandIndependence: Why is this ironic?

He's the democratic equivalent of Bachmann (And I don't mean that in a good way)
 
2010-10-01 02:42:36 PM
Bullet Ridden Stop Sign - JusticeandIndependence: Why is this ironic?

He's the democratic equivalent of Bachmann (And I don't mean that in a good way)



Huh?

Who is?
 
2010-10-01 02:49:04 PM
themanfromlamancha: Seriously? Bachmann is the evidence that Minnesota is farked up? Look at their recent electoral history. Jesse "The Body" Ventura lead the way for professional wrestler turned politicians. Amy Klobuchar is a dunce who can't wipe the deer-in-headlights, 'I'm-terrified-and-I-don't-belong-but-maybe-if-I-smile-really-awkwardly-and-pret end-people-won't-notice-me' look off her face. And then they elected Senator Stuart Smalley? How is Bachmann THE embarrassment of Minnesota? Seems to me she fits right in...

To me that just says how much of a collossal loon she is, that she manages to stand out from such esteemed company.
 
2010-10-01 03:12:33 PM
Elandriel: I voted for 'Stuart Smalley' and wouldn't you know he's one of the most credible and respectful senators in this divisive political climate. Say what you will about the man's past but he is certainly no embarassment to the senate now.

It says something about the state of the Republican party that the only way they have to defend their members is to spout off some party line about Franken and Klobuchar without any basis in reality to back it up. Both of MN's senators have been perfectly respectable. I can see where the Republicans would fail to recognize that behavior.
 
2010-10-01 03:23:52 PM
Franken has been reprimanded twice already for behavior unbecoming a Senator on the floor, specifically while Presiding over the Senate. There are many stories of Klobuchar's foolishness. Seriously, at the Senator's introductory brunch she almost downed a bowl of thousand island dressing she mistook for soup. Other members had to stop her and explain what she had just taken from the salad bar. She also once proudly declared to a former colleague of mine "I'm a Senator." That story's harder to write, since it relies heavily on inflection. Suffice it to say, the statement was unsolicited and was of a general wonderment that did not instill confidence of the others in the elevator. He stammered a response... "well... yes, Ma'am, you are"
 
2010-10-01 03:24:30 PM
More crap from the Comminington Post. WTF cares what Garrison Keillor thinks? My arsehole farts more logic than he'll ever present us with.
 
2010-10-01 03:30:58 PM
themanfromlamancha: Franken has been reprimanded twice already for behavior unbecoming a Senator on the floor, specifically while Presiding over the Senate. There are many stories of Klobuchar's foolishness. Seriously, at the Senator's introductory brunch she almost downed a bowl of thousand island dressing she mistook for soup. Other members had to stop her and explain what she had just taken from the salad bar. She also once proudly declared to a former colleague of mine "I'm a Senator." That story's harder to write, since it relies heavily on inflection. Suffice it to say, the statement was unsolicited and was of a general wonderment that did not instill confidence of the others in the elevator. He stammered a response... "well... yes, Ma'am, you are"

Franken can be a dick and Klobuchar can be a ditz so long as they continue to represent me and my fellow residents with the passion, dedication, and integrity that they have. So, as you've been asked before, can you present any honest criticism of the people you're attacking?
 
2010-10-01 03:40:32 PM
themanfromlamancha: Franken has been reprimanded twice already for behavior unbecoming a Senator on the floor

And yet, I can't seem to find any reference to even one such reprimand. Perhaps you can provide one?
 
2010-10-01 03:40:39 PM
WxAxGxS: Franken can be a dick and Klobuchar can be a ditz so long as they continue to represent me and my fellow residents with the passion, dedication, and integrity that they have.

I like the cut of your jib.

We should beer.
 
2010-10-01 03:48:11 PM
Triaxis: More crap from the Comminington Post. WTF cares what Garrison Keillor thinks?

Many more people than will ever admit to even having been in the same zip code as you.
 
2010-10-01 03:48:25 PM
GameSprocket: themanfromlamancha: Franken has been reprimanded twice already for behavior unbecoming a Senator on the floor

And yet, I can't seem to find any reference to even one such reprimand. Perhaps you can provide one?


Apparently Mitch McConnell crying like a little girl counts as a reprimand these days.
 
2010-10-01 03:54:20 PM
WxAxGxS: Franken can be a dick and Klobuchar can be a ditz so long as they continue to represent me and my fellow residents with the passion, dedication, and integrity that they have. So, as you've been asked before, can you present any honest criticism of the people you're attacking?

Don't forget the alternatives to them. Instead of Klobuchar we could have had Kennedy, Bachmann's precursor. Instead of Franken we could have kept Coleman, the lying political turncoat (suuure he didn't switch to the Republicans so he could have a party's endorsement when running for governor - and I'm a Chinese jet pilot) who was left stammering by Ventura.
 
2010-10-01 03:55:41 PM
Republicans have somewhat of a monopoly on bat-shiat crazy right now. The problem is Democrats are pathetically timid and politics are a game where notoriety is most valuable. It doesn't matter if you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, or just downright insane; if you make a lot of noise, your chances improve.

Rand Paul is a good example. Jack Conway, the Democrat, should be an appealing choice in this red state, as he's fairly socially conservative, but Paul has a national profile, which is what keeps him ahead in the polls. Conway has not managed to make any kind of lasting impression, positive or otherwise.

Bachmann is nuts. She has no viable solutions for absolutely anything and is an embarrassment to us all, but she will remain in Washington as long as she maintains he notoriety.
 
2010-10-01 04:25:36 PM
MaxxLarge: WxAxGxS: Franken can be a dick and Klobuchar can be a ditz so long as they continue to represent me and my fellow residents with the passion, dedication, and integrity that they have.

I like the cut of your jib.

We should beer.


Only if you write me a limerick.

/Beer good.
 
2010-10-01 04:29:21 PM
Halli: GameSprocket: themanfromlamancha: Franken has been reprimanded twice already for behavior unbecoming a Senator on the floor

And yet, I can't seem to find any reference to even one such reprimand. Perhaps you can provide one?

Apparently Mitch McConnell crying like a little girl counts as a reprimand these days.


Wow, I just took this guy at his word for it... Apparently I give neocon's too much credit. Butthurt Republicans demanding a reprimand != receiving a reprimand.

/Franken can continue to be a dick so long as he maintains his devotion to the state of Minnesota and the nation as a whole.
 
2010-10-01 08:14:00 PM
Man: [quietly] Well, sir, it has been an uneventful week in Badger
Falls...where the women are robust, the men are pink-cheeked, and
the children are pink-cheeked and robust.
[Audience laughs loudly]
Homer: What the hell's so funny?
Man: At the Apple Biscuit cafe, where the smiles are free, don't you
know, Sven Inqvist studied the menu, and finally he ordered the
same thing he has every day.
[Audience laughs and applauds]
Bart: Maybe it's the TV.
Homer: Stupid TV. [Hits it] Be more funny!
 
2010-10-01 09:49:57 PM
I don't know, she looked good in Eurotrip even if the movie sucked, and I didn't have any trouble with the character of Dawn.
 
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