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(Toronto Star)   Lottery office flooded with callers trying to claim stolen lottery ticket. Subby's pretty sure it's his   (thestar.com) divider line 37
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2010-10-01 01:11:18 AM
Pretty sure? I'm damn sure it mine.
 
2010-10-01 01:12:29 AM
Bite me subby. When they restore those VHS in-store tapes they will see that I bought the ticket with my foodstamps hard earned American dollars.
 
2010-10-01 01:13:26 AM
Easy. Just have the caller identify the numbers on it.


/wait...
 
2010-10-01 01:14:25 AM
number 1001001?

/winnar!
 
2010-10-01 01:16:50 AM
Back off, a**holes, that's MY ticket!
 
2010-10-01 01:19:18 AM
My first thought was to congratulate submitter on proper apostrophe use. Now I'm depressed.
 
2010-10-01 01:20:44 AM
so when they do find out whose ticket it was can we arrest the others for false police reports?
 
2010-10-01 01:25:17 AM
Precision Boobery: My first thought was to congratulate submitter on proper apostrophe use. Now I'm depressed.

That low road has a lot of travelers.
 
2010-10-01 01:26:53 AM
Hands off biatch, that's my ticket. Don't make me take out my earrangs.
 
2010-10-01 01:29:05 AM
gadian: Hands off biatch, that's my ticket. Don't make me take out my earrangs.

Oh come on, if you were truly serious you would pull that pair of Walmart hoops and either tuck them away or throw them down.
 
2010-10-01 01:29:55 AM
www.templetoncc.com.au

Run home!
 
2010-10-01 01:32:38 AM
How about organizing a lottery? Whoever wins it's his ticket. Problem solved.
 
2010-10-01 01:43:02 AM
I am Spartacus!

Wait, I mean, that's my ticket!
 
2010-10-01 01:57:24 AM
The winning lottery number is 1-2-3-4-5.
 
2010-10-01 02:12:21 AM
The All-Powerful Atheismo: The winning lottery number is 1-2-3-4-5.

That's amazing. I've got the same combination on my luggage!
 
2010-10-01 02:14:04 AM
"Police accuse a Toronto-area convenience store employee and his two children of stealing the ticket seven years ago."

You can cash in a lottery ticket after seven years?
 
2010-10-01 02:26:03 AM
4-8-15-16-23-42
 
2010-10-01 03:26:04 AM
chzsomuchpun.files.wordpress.com
 
2010-10-01 05:43:26 AM
gregoropolis: so when they do find out whose ticket it was can we arrest the others for false police reports?

I wish. I really, really wish. That's some serious boldness to commit fraud in the police's face. Is it worth the cops' time, though? As for the article, it says out of 85 folks claiming ownership, so far they think 20 have 'met criteria'? I wonder what the criteria is, and how they figured out the convenience store clerk stole the ticket.
 
2010-10-01 06:05:05 AM
www.sydlexia.com
 
2010-10-01 06:39:18 AM
Man, I'm glad I don't play the lottery.
 
2010-10-01 06:41:23 AM
I'm pretty sure it's not mine, but I'm gonna phone and claim it is anyways.
 
2010-10-01 08:00:49 AM
I wonder if this is a standard pick a set of numbers game.

The owner could possibly be identified by asking several questions.
-Number of number sets on the ticket.
-Auto pick or chosen numbers
-Time and date of sale if one could remember after 7 years
-Proof that the person was in the area of purchase at the time

I still can't figure out how they determined that the ticket was stolen.
 
2010-10-01 08:16:29 AM
Link won't come up on this comp, so I'm going off comments made.

How does a convenience store clerk steal a ticket? I've only bought a few but I feel like I'd know if I didn't leave the store with it. Or did the thief just happen to be a convenience clerk and not necessarily the one that sold the ticket?

Also, how did they know it was stoeln after 7 years?

Finally, what's with these people that call in and falsely claim it? Did they honestly think they'd be the only one who would try that? It's all kinds of shameless dumbass.
 
2010-10-01 08:30:46 AM
Razorwolf: Link won't come up on this comp, so I'm going off comments made.

How does a convenience store clerk steal a ticket? I've only bought a few but I feel like I'd know if I didn't leave the store with it. Or did the thief just happen to be a convenience clerk and not necessarily the one that sold the ticket?

Also, how did they know it was stoeln after 7 years?

Finally, what's with these people that call in and falsely claim it? Did they honestly think they'd be the only one who would try that? It's all kinds of shameless dumbass.


Clerks can steal tickets when the customer gives it to them to scan and see if it is a winner. The clerk scans it and tells the customer it is not a winner and offers to discard it for them. This can be avoided by checking your own ticket online or watching the number draw on television. In Ohio the lottery vendors mostly have scanner the customers can use or at least screens/audible alerts the customer can see or hear.

The article doesn't mention how they knew it was stolen.
 
2010-10-01 08:39:18 AM
Torok: Razorwolf: Link won't come up on this comp, so I'm going off comments made.

How does a convenience store clerk steal a ticket? I've only bought a few but I feel like I'd know if I didn't leave the store with it. Or did the thief just happen to be a convenience clerk and not necessarily the one that sold the ticket?

Also, how did they know it was stoeln after 7 years?

Finally, what's with these people that call in and falsely claim it? Did they honestly think they'd be the only one who would try that? It's all kinds of shameless dumbass.

Clerks can steal tickets when the customer gives it to them to scan and see if it is a winner. The clerk scans it and tells the customer it is not a winner and offers to discard it for them. This can be avoided by checking your own ticket online or watching the number draw on television. In Ohio the lottery vendors mostly have scanner the customers can use or at least screens/audible alerts the customer can see or hear.

The article doesn't mention how they knew it was stolen.


I heard about this on the radio yesterday. The machines they use in ontario play a little bit of music. So apparently when the ticket was checked and the music went off, the clerk told the customer that they won a free ticket. The clerk pocketed the winning ticket and printed the customer a free ticket. I am wondering though how they figured this whole thing out 7 years later.
 
2010-10-01 08:50:38 AM
Maybe the caught them stealing other tickets and they rolled back the clock and figured it out.

Tickets are stolen when people take their tickets to the vendor and ask them to check the numbers. Vendor tells them it didn't win and throws it in the trash. Later they pull it out of the trash and cash it.

20/20 or one of those news shows followed cops doing a sting on that scam in NJ. Guys denied the rip off even after being shown video evidence.
 
2010-10-01 08:55:41 AM
Mark Zuckenberg stole it.
 
2010-10-01 09:05:35 AM
20 people of the 85 seem possible with an office pooled lottery ticket purchase.

odds: 1 in 146,107,962
 
2010-10-01 09:06:26 AM
My name is Earl.
 
2010-10-01 09:09:41 AM
How it was stolen


The Chungs allegedly ran a scheme in which they would steal "free play" tickets won by their customers and play the tickets themselves. The free play tickets would bear a different number from the customers' original lottery tickets, and the Chungs would not know until the next draw whether they had a winner.


This type of theft occurred four times, police say, but one of the free play tickets ended up hitting the $12.5-million jackpot.

 
2010-10-01 09:18:46 AM
uselesslogin: How it was stolen

Thank you for the link. It does explain a lot more. Hopefully, we won't see your link posted as a 'followup' duplicate by the submitwhore brigade.

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SideOfBacon: 20 people of the 85 seem possible with an office pooled lottery ticket purchase.

odds: 1 in 146,107,962


FTFA: "Authorities are now seeking the "rightful winner" of the massive payout, saying the customer had specific lottery habits and may have been playing as part of a group." Dang, looks like you were right, SideOfBacon.

For me, the only thing the group is owed is a free ticket, since that's all that was 'stolen'. I'm not comfortable with the police stating that 'since your stolen free ticket was used to buy a second ticket which ended up the winner, you now own the prize. Yeah, it sounds groovy, it sounds like a nice windfall........ but that's not actually justice. I wonder who the group players are the cops are deciding to be nice to?

Is there precedence for saying 'your money was used to do this, therefore you now own what it was used for'? Or are the Canadian cops trying to forestall a massive lawsuit from the attorneys of the group players who will try to make it precedent?

If my jewelry is stolen, then fenced for cash, and the cash is used to buy a ticket, and the ticket is a powerball or mega millions winner....................... am I really entitled to that lottery jackpot? If my raffle ticket is stolen, wins a free raffle ticket, then used to buy another raffle ticket which wins the jackpot, am I entitled to the raffle jackpot?

If so, that's very interesting to me.
 
2010-10-01 09:36:43 AM
Oddly enough, that's the store where my parents bought their tickets in 2003 - we lived about a 5 minute drive from there.

... I'm wondering if I should let them know?
 
2010-10-01 09:42:31 AM
don't jackpots just get rolled over if noone claims them in 180 days?

/at least that's how it is here in missouri with the powerball...
 
2010-10-01 09:54:11 AM
REDARMYVODKA: don't jackpots just get rolled over if noone claims them in 180 days?

/at least that's how it is here in missouri with the powerball...


365 days in Canada.
 
2010-10-01 09:58:27 AM
REDARMYVODKA: don't jackpots just get rolled over if noone claims them in 180 days?

/at least that's how it is here in missouri with the powerball...

Answer:

By law, all unclaimed Michigan Lottery prizes (or portions of a Mega Millions or Powerball prize funded by Michigan) revert back to the state School Aid Fund.


does not roll back into lottery prize pool jackpot.
 
2010-10-01 10:09:37 AM
SideOfBacon: REDARMYVODKA: don't jackpots just get rolled over if noone claims them in 180 days?

/at least that's how it is here in missouri with the powerball...

Answer:

By law, all unclaimed Michigan Lottery prizes (or portions of a Mega Millions or Powerball prize funded by Michigan) revert back to the state School Aid Fund.

does not roll back into lottery prize pool jackpot.


I assume the ticket was claimed on time. The theft was discovered later...
 
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