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2010-09-28 12:00:20 PM
The cat, however, was killed.

Police say alcohol is believed to be a factor.


When will cats learn to control their drinking.

/Sad it was a kitty. Cats rule.
 
2010-09-28 12:22:42 PM
I swear, sometimes those cat's tails look just like an antennae...
 
2010-09-28 12:22:50 PM
We had these feral cats that kept leaving tracks in the flower beds and knocking over things all over the place. We didn't shoot them, but we did have them humanely removed from the property.

We have dogs, so it wasn't great to have cats running around disturbing them all the time.
 
2010-09-28 12:25:08 PM
lo quilty: We had these feral cats that kept leaving tracks in the flower beds and knocking over things all over the place. We didn't shoot them, but we did have them humanely removed from the property.

We have dogs, so it wasn't great to have cats running around disturbing them all the time.


cool story
 
2010-09-28 12:28:26 PM
Catastrophe
cat-ass-trophy?
 
2010-09-28 12:30:51 PM
I'm fairly certain my cat would shoot me if it had opposable thumbs and a fully formed index finger. Come to think of it, the dog would be the first victim.
 
2010-09-28 12:37:18 PM
I don't buy this. Cats are silent. I think he is hiding the poor intruder's body.
 
2010-09-28 12:38:29 PM
What charges is the guy facing? A rifle is a bit of an overkill for a home invasion, and isn't even really a good choice specifically because the round will travel through walls. I know gun laws are tight enough up there, but he should have grabbed a shotgun.
 
2010-09-28 12:45:33 PM
At least the cat slowed the bullet down a bit, otherwise it might have gone through 2 neighbors homes.
 
2010-09-28 12:47:20 PM
I call shenanigans. I mean, on top of the drinking and other shenanigans


no way with a rifle and "stumbling and accidentally pulling the trigger" that he hit the one thing making noise. Dude didn't want to admit he was a dumbass and shot his cat intentionally
 
2010-09-28 12:48:40 PM
redmid17: What charges is the guy facing? A rifle is a bit of an overkill for a home invasion, and isn't even really a good choice specifically because the round will travel through walls. I know gun laws are tight enough up there, but he should have grabbed a shotgun.

Unsafe discharge of a firearm and maybe improper storage of a firearm. And it doesn't really matter if it was a shotgun, the law here is that you can't use a firearm for home security.
 
2010-09-28 12:49:31 PM
This is my home town. What a pack of farking mushheads. I just got into another argument with my neighbor, who claims I am sneaking into her yard at night and tearing small holes in her garbage bags. I told her, "Stella, that has to be the cat that wanders around here, why would anyone tamper with garbage?", but she cannot be convinced. It's gotten to the point where I have to call the RCMP to come calm her down and put her back in her cage.

Other things that happened in Red Deer that are beyond retarded

A) there was a bomb threat at Thurber, so the Principal sends a vaguely worded instruction to the teachers that seems to instruct them to send the kids out to look for the bomb. Most teachers ignore this, some teachers send their kids out. THEY SENT CHILDREN TO SEARCH FOR A BOMB. When I heard there might be a bomb, I was a volunteer at the time and got in trouble for not stopping students who were in the off grounds hidden smoking area who just walked away as soon as they heard there was a bomb. About 3hrs into it most of the students had just walked out. They just got fed up with nothing being done and sauntered off. No fire drills, no evacuations, they didn't even close the fire control doors.


B) when the city was given a tremendous amount of money they decided that homeless shelters, womens shelters, youth shelters, all far overstretched by the cities rapid growth were less important that A WAVE POOL. They built an enormous complex that holds a field that is just slightly too small for any offical use. Then they made a rink, in CANADA, that is slightly to small for official play of hockey, curling, or figure skating and thus frowned upon even for practice. The only good thing it has, is a cheap gym, and ecoli in the pool they can't get rid off ( for those of you who live here, check the advocate, the pool has been shut down 20+ times since it opened and still tests above the safe level for drinking water)

C) After columbine myself and many others were frequently searched for wearing dusters and slickers in the area by the police station in front of Camile J Larouge. Because and I kid you not, the idiot RCMP couldn't tell the difference between them and trenchcoats and had been ordered to search people with trenchcoats going into the school.


D) My previous landlord was told he could not put up barbed wire on top of his fence and must take his down because there was a school playground within 3 blocks. He then pointed out that the same school had installed concertina wire with massive razor spikes around the school bus enclosure due to vandalism from the very same aboriginal gang he wanted to defend his property against.


E)former Mayor Gail Surkan's son has been arrested for everything short of murdering a hooker and yet has never been in jail. A mystery that is quite shocking considering I've seen the RCMP here bounce a guys' head of the ground for nothing. When I PERSONALLY came forward, the advocate and even his own public defender didn't want to talk to me, even though I could directly co-orerate his claim that he was beaten like a monkey even though he was fully co-operating. I later found out that public defenders here are paid less than parking lot attendants. They also save up most of the public defender money for defending murderers and plea out any other cases, regardless of how strenuously the accused claims innocence. If the accused refuses to plead guilty the defender applies to be removed from his uncooperative client.


F) When people come here from a real city like Vancouver or Toronto people just gasp in shock and ask, "Oh my dear lord, how can you stand to live in such a backwards place??"

G) The radio here is an abomination against all sound.
 
2010-09-28 12:53:40 PM
This is comedy gold! Sad for thr kitty, of course, but....hyuk....
 
2010-09-28 12:54:44 PM
Got an AK-47, well you know it makes me feel alright
Got an Uzi by my pillow, helps me sleep a little better at night
There's no feeling any greter
Than to shoot first and ask questions later
Now I'm trigger happy, trigger happy every day

Well, you can't take my guns away, I got a constitutional right
Yeah, I gotta be ready if the Commies attack us tonight
I'll blow their brains out with my Smith and Wesson
That ought to teach them all a darn good lesson
Now I'm trigger happy, trigger happy every day

(Oh yeah, I'm)trigger, trigger happy
Yes I'm trigger, trigger happy
(Oh baby, I'm)trigger, trigger happy
Yes I'm trigger, trigger happy
(Oh I'm so)trigger, trigger happy
Yes I'm trigger, trigger happy
Better watch out, punk, or I'm gonna have to blow you away

Oh, I accidently shot daddy last night in the den
I mistook him in the dark for a drug-crazed Nazi again
Now why'd you have to get so mad?
It was just a lousy flesh wound, Dad
You know, I'm trigger happy, trigger happy every day

Oh, I still haven't figured out the safety on my rifle yet
Little Fluffy took a round, better take him to the vet
I filled that kitty cat so full of lead
We'll have to use him for a pencil instead
Well, I'm so trigger happy, trigger happy every day


(Oh yeah, I'm)trigger, trigger happy
Yes I'm trigger, trigger happy
(Oh baby, I'm)trigger, trigger happy
Yes I'm trigger, trigger happy
(Oh I'm so)trigger, trigger happy
Yes I'm trigger, trigger happy
Better watch out, punk, or I'm gonna have to blow you away

Come on and grab your ammo
What have you got to lose?
We'll all get liquored up
And shoot at anything that moves

Got a brand new semi-automatic weapon with a laser sight
Oh, I'm prayin' somebody tries to break in here tonight
I always keep a Magnum in my trunk
You better ask yourself, do you feel lucky, punk?
Because I'm trigger happy, trigger happy every day

(Oh yeah, I'm)trigger, trigger happy
Yes I'm trigger, trigger happy
(Oh baby, I'm)trigger, trigger happy
Yes I'm trigger, trigger happy
(Oh I'm so)trigger, trigger happy
Yes I'm trigger, trigger happy
Better watch out, punk, or I'm gonna have to blow you away
 
2010-09-28 12:55:11 PM
Well that cat will never repeat the offense.

//hates cats
//loves guns
 
2010-09-28 12:57:45 PM
So the poor guy gets arrested for protecting his cheezburgers?
 
2010-09-28 12:58:39 PM
snabbieyoyo.org
 
2010-09-28 01:03:14 PM
Wanted for questioning

1.bp.blogspot.com

Link hot not like the girl friend
 
2010-09-28 01:08:50 PM
Welcome to Alberta, and the Calgary hillbillies, Persistent. At least this story makes national news. Where I lived in the US it would make one edition of the local paper. Register all guns and keep them locked.
 
2010-09-28 01:13:14 PM
McGrits: Wanted for questioning



Link hot not like the girl friend


Came here for this. Leaving satisfied.
 
2010-09-28 01:14:08 PM
McGrits: Wanted for questioning



Link hot not like the girl friend


Is it dead?
 
2010-09-28 01:26:25 PM
airplayne: McGrits: Wanted for questioning



Link hot not like the girl friend

Came here for this. Leaving satisfied.


Same here - bye.
 
2010-09-28 01:26:26 PM
Outlaw Thirds: I don't buy this. Cats are silent. I think he is hiding the poor intruder's body.

Only someone who doesn't own a cat would ever say that.
 
2010-09-28 01:38:33 PM
McGrits: Wanted for questioning

I, too, came here for this.

/can't believe that just farking happened
 
2010-09-28 01:38:49 PM
I_Am_Weasel: The cat, however, was killed.

Police say alcohol is believed to be a factor.


When will cats learn to control their drinking.


farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2010-09-28 01:46:00 PM
redmid17: but he should have grabbed a shotgun.

Which is at least as unwieldy as a rifle, at close ranges is going to pack more of a punch, and will also put rounds though walls.
 
2010-09-28 01:47:41 PM
Maybe he thought the cat had a boxing glove gun.

sydlexia.com
 
2010-09-28 01:51:56 PM
redmid17: What charges is the guy facing? A rifle is a bit of an overkill for a home invasion, and isn't even really a good choice specifically because the round will travel through walls. I know gun laws are tight enough up there, but he should have grabbed a shotgun.

Lets see:
Unlawful discharge of a firearm
Reckless endangerment
Disturbing the peace
Unlawful destruction of property
Animal cruelty

Take your pick; these are the charges he could face on the U.S. side of the line, they might be different in the Great White North
 
2010-09-28 02:08:38 PM
Idiots like this are a great argument for the gun registry. There's a heck of a lot of morons out there, some of them have guns, and I for one want the cops to know who they are. That way, the next time someone's pets/walls get shot up in this neighbourhood, they can go around and gently ask, "Darrell, you been drinking tonight? Better come down to the station, eh?"

Order. I like it.
 
2010-09-28 02:13:20 PM
bobbette: Idiots like this are a great argument for the gun registry. There's a heck of a lot of morons out there, some of them have guns, and I for one want the cops to know who they are. That way, the next time someone's pets/walls get shot up in this neighbourhood, they can go around and gently ask, "Darrell, you been drinking tonight? Better come down to the station, eh?"

Order. I like it.


Yeah, that would never get abused.
 
2010-09-28 02:14:55 PM
Azlefty: redmid17: What charges is the guy facing? A rifle is a bit of an overkill for a home invasion, and isn't even really a good choice specifically because the round will travel through walls. I know gun laws are tight enough up there, but he should have grabbed a shotgun.

Lets see:
Unlawful discharge of a firearm
Reckless endangerment
Disturbing the peace
Unlawful destruction of property
Animal cruelty

Take your pick; these are the charges he could face on the U.S. side of the line, they might be different in the Great White North


On the US side? wow

Unlawful discharge of a firearm - most states allow lethal force to defend your property
Reckless endangerment - see above
Disturbing the peace - see above
Unlawful destruction of property - this one could stick
Animal cruelty - I can't really see someone getting charged with this unless it was blatantly obvious he just shot the cat, not what he thought was a burglar

The "castle defense" relies a lot on the circumstances, especially where said person would be. Some places are a lot more lenient on over-the-top self defense than others.
 
2010-09-28 02:17:41 PM
redmid17: Unlawful discharge of a firearm - most states allow lethal force to defend your property
Reckless endangerment - see above
Disturbing the peace - see above


Which would be fine if he was actually defending himself and his property. Now, I realize that that's what he thought he was doing, but as it turns out he opened fire on a cat. I'm pretty sure any of those charges would stick.
 
2010-09-28 02:19:56 PM
Noticeably F.A.T.: bobbette: Idiots like this are a great argument for the gun registry. There's a heck of a lot of morons out there, some of them have guns, and I for one want the cops to know who they are. That way, the next time someone's pets/walls get shot up in this neighbourhood, they can go around and gently ask, "Darrell, you been drinking tonight? Better come down to the station, eh?"

Order. I like it.

Yeah, that would never get abused.


You sound American. And no, I don't really see what the potential for abuse is when asking gun owners to register their guns. It seems like common sense.
 
2010-09-28 02:22:01 PM
So the idiot opened fire before verifying that his target was actually a threat to his life?

What's his FARK handle?
 
2010-09-28 02:24:49 PM
bobbette: And no, I don't really see what the potential for abuse is when asking gun owners to register their guns.

Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Historically registration has led eventually to confiscation.

Anyway in order to make a registry actually legal at the fed level in the US they'd have to open the NFA select fire registry back up since that legislation also bars the federales from creating a registry.
 
2010-09-28 02:26:20 PM
bobbette: You sound American.

And?

And no, I don't really see what the potential for abuse is when asking gun owners to register their guns. It seems like common sense.

Really? You can't think of any way that a list of people the government/law enforcement really doesn't like can or would be abused?
 
2010-09-28 03:13:19 PM
Speedofdarkness:
And it doesn't really matter if it was a shotgun, the law here is that you can't use a firearm for home security.
WTF?!? What the hell are we supposed to use man? Harsh language?
 
2010-09-28 03:19:57 PM
stevarooni: WTF?!? What the hell are we supposed to use man? Harsh language?

It's Canada. You have to use polite language.
 
2010-09-28 03:30:31 PM
Noticeably F.A.T.: redmid17: Unlawful discharge of a firearm - most states allow lethal force to defend your property
Reckless endangerment - see above
Disturbing the peace - see above

Which would be fine if he was actually defending himself and his property. Now, I realize that that's what he thought he was doing, but as it turns out he opened fire on a cat. I'm pretty sure any of those charges would stick.


Yeah now that I think about it, I think only half of the states have "stand your ground" clauses, which strip away a lot of the requirements for lethal self-defense. I also thought about it more and you'd be pretty effing stupid to shoot something without IDing it first. That's a great way to hut your roommates or family.
 
2010-09-28 03:41:14 PM
bobbette: Idiots like this are a great argument for the gun registry. There's a heck of a lot of morons out there, some of them have guns, and I for one want the cops to know who they are. That way, the next time someone's pets/walls get shot up in this neighbourhood, they can go around and gently ask, "Darrell, you been drinking tonight? Better come down to the station, eh?"

Order. I like it.


No. It might be a decent reason for having stricter requirements for a license. The registry would have done nothing to prevent this idiot from shooting his cat. The registry doesn't prevent anyone from getting a firearm, and doesn't tell the cops who has one, since so many are unregistered. Right now, the only things that can prevent you from getting a firearms license (and therefore a gun) are a court order, a criminal record, or an ex-wife who you admit to having who has a problem with you having a gun. You need a membership at a gun club to get restricted weapons, which isn't had to get.

You're a psycho who has no criminal record, and are still single because you're a psycho? No problem. I'm assuming you still have at least a couple friends who will sign off on you getting a license. How do you think Kimvir Gil got a legally registered CX-4 Storm to shoot up Dawson College?

The registry does nothing that the license doesn't already effectively do.
 
2010-09-28 03:42:45 PM
redmid17: Yeah now that I think about it, I think only half of the states have "stand your ground" clauses, which strip away a lot of the requirements for lethal self-defense. I also thought about it more and you'd be pretty effing stupid to shoot something without IDing it first. That's a great way to hut your roommates or family.

I don't think even the least restrictive Castle Doctrine laws would help this guy. I could be wrong on that though. I just get the feeling that "I thought I was in danger" just isn't going to fly, even if if it's the truth. Mostly because he didn't bother to identify his target before he shot. There's the reckless endangerment right there. The other two I think would follow from that.
 
2010-09-28 03:48:05 PM
Pacemaker Joe: The registry does nothing that the license doesn't already effectively do.

It also doesn't do anything but identify the people who are law abiding enough put their names on the list. I've never done anything illegal with my guns, I keep them locked up and safe, and my neighbor is a lunatic that can't legally get a gun, so he gets one illegally. Then one night he gets plastered, shoots at a cat, realizes that he just farked up and bugs out. Cops are called, and they go harass the registered gun owner in the area: Me.

/The above story is pretty much all fabricated, I'm a safe gun owner, and I don't know that my neighbors own guns or are deranged.
 
2010-09-28 03:53:12 PM
"It will die, it will die!"

3.bp.blogspot.com

/hopefully not obscure
 
2010-09-28 04:05:39 PM
Noticeably F.A.T.: redmid17: Yeah now that I think about it, I think only half of the states have "stand your ground" clauses, which strip away a lot of the requirements for lethal self-defense. I also thought about it more and you'd be pretty effing stupid to shoot something without IDing it first. That's a great way to hut your roommates or family.

I don't think even the least restrictive Castle Doctrine laws would help this guy. I could be wrong on that though. I just get the feeling that "I thought I was in danger" just isn't going to fly, even if if it's the truth. Mostly because he didn't bother to identify his target before he shot. There's the reckless endangerment right there. The other two I think would follow from that.


Noticeably F.A.T.: redmid17: Yeah now that I think about it, I think only half of the states have "stand your ground" clauses, which strip away a lot of the requirements for lethal self-defense. I also thought about it more and you'd be pretty effing stupid to shoot something without IDing it first. That's a great way to hut your roommates or family.

I don't think even the least restrictive Castle Doctrine laws would help this guy. I could be wrong on that though. I just get the feeling that "I thought I was in danger" just isn't going to fly, even if if it's the truth. Mostly because he didn't bother to identify his target before he shot. There's the reckless endangerment right there. The other two I think would follow from that.


If this guy were out in the sticks, he'd probably slide on just about any charge. If this guy were in a suburb, city, or anything remotely like that, he would probably be charged.
 
2010-09-28 04:14:18 PM
Okay - CSB

I had a prof who was a forensic anthropologist and she told my class a story about a cat lady who died. Eventually the neighbors noticed something out of the ordinary and called the authorities, who broke down the door and found the lady's body, which had been devoured by the cats right down to her support hose. The crazy part was that there were dishes of cat food all over the house for the cats to eat.

So the next time you catch your cat staring at you, it's probably because it's doing some mental kitty math to calculate the last time you moved. Sit still for too long and "nom nom nom" - you're Cat Chow.

All of which is to say the guy should plead self defence. And we should all wrap ourselves in support hose to protect against kitty depredation.
 
2010-09-28 04:19:29 PM
redmid17: If this guy were out in the sticks, he'd probably slide on just about any charge. If this guy were in a suburb, city, or anything remotely like that, he would probably be charged.

If he was out in the stick I doubt anyone would have found out about it.
 
2010-09-28 04:23:12 PM
knightofargh: Historically registration has led eventually to confiscation. [citation needed]
 
2010-09-28 04:30:05 PM
Noticeably F.A.T.: redmid17: If this guy were out in the sticks, he'd probably slide on just about any charge. If this guy were in a suburb, city, or anything remotely like that, he would probably be charged.

If he was out in the stick I doubt anyone would have found out about it.


Pretty much. It's only a crime if you get caught.
 
2010-09-28 04:37:34 PM
He was taken into custody for killing a stupid cat? It was his cat, not like a neighbors or something.

/cats are disposable
 
2010-09-28 05:22:58 PM
Noticeably F.A.T.: Pacemaker Joe: The registry does nothing that the license doesn't already effectively do.

It also doesn't do anything but identify the people who are law abiding enough put their names on the list.


I'm not disagreeing, but you have to understand Canadian gun politics to get what I'm saying. Canada has had firearms licensing for decades, without significant opposition to it, as it was run cheaply at without significant abuse. In the 1990s, the Liberal government under Jean Chretien wanted to bring in registration of every long gun (handguns had been registered for years, again, without problem). They promised the program would cost approximately $2 million, and would be self-supporting. It has now cost 1000 times that, and is full of idiotic registrations of glue guns, and has been abused by city cops to confiscate guns when registrations expire. There were no large problems with the licensing system, and there are no benefits to the registration system.

We don't have the same culture up here when it comes to firearms, and largely don't consider them as a tool to use for self-defence against criminals or a tyrannical government. But the registry was implemented for purely political reasons, and hasn't done a damn thing to increase public safety, which is why it is strongly opposed in most rural regions. But it gives the urban public the illusion that the government is doing something to combat the (non-existent) rise in violent crime, so...

Apologies if this came off as me talking down to you, I'm not trying to.
 
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