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(Some Guy)   Disney allows an intern to wear a hijab scarf at work. Wonder if she'll be typecast as Jasmine, the Sultan's daughter who isn't allowed to drive, go to school, or be outside the palace without an escort by her male family members   (ocresort.ocregister.com) divider line 316
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#2 [TotalFark]
2010-09-28 09:24:29 AM
"I love Mickey Mouse more than any woman I've ever known."

- Walt Disney
 
2010-09-28 09:24:49 AM
it's bad enough having to hold a woman's hair back when she pukes, i'm not holding back a friggin hijab
 
2010-09-28 09:25:50 AM
Paging the "All Muslims Are Terrorists" crowd.
 
2010-09-28 09:27:42 AM
My religion declares that I need to wear a Bugs Bunny mask at all times. Why won't Disney hire me?
 
2010-09-28 09:29:46 AM
fark your religion, you should be able to practice it, no one else should be forced to lift one finger to help you continue with your delusions.
 
2010-09-28 09:31:05 AM
Ok... it's not like she got a job as a check out girl at Kroger's and refused to touch bacon and a bottle of wine because it was against her religion. Both examples they sited in TFA were women who were blatantly discriminated against for the sake of a uniform.
 
2010-09-28 09:31:18 AM
Unsurprising, since ol' Walt Disney and the Muslims have a shared dislike of the Jews. Try getting to wear a yarmulka at Disney World.
 
2010-09-28 09:31:26 AM
8.5 tailed fox: My religion declares that I need to wear a Bugs Bunny mask at all times. Why won't Disney hire me?

I have to agree. Not to sound cold, but she could work somewhere else if she doesn't want to follow the dress code. You can't wear baseball caps in the office, even if you're a really big fan.
 
2010-09-28 09:31:27 AM
ocresort.ocregister.com

I think she may also be a member of the Rebel Alliance.
 
2010-09-28 09:32:33 AM
#2: "I love Mickey Mouse more than any woman I've ever known."

- Walt Disney


Paging Rule 34
 
2010-09-28 09:33:50 AM
Now that I think about it, being a costumed mascot would be a GREAT job for a Muslim woman.
 
2010-09-28 09:34:08 AM
KatjaMouse: Ok... it's not like she got a job as a check out girl at Kroger's and refused to touch bacon and a bottle of wine because it was against her religion. Both examples they sited in TFA were women who were blatantly discriminated against for the sake of a uniform.

Discriminated against means they were treated different. Unless they were forced to wear something that other in their position weren't forced to wear it wasn't a case of discrimination.
 
2010-09-28 09:34:41 AM
Sounds like all sides were able to come to an amicable agreement. This strikes me as a good thing.
 
2010-09-28 09:34:46 AM
Pappas: Now that I think about it, being a costumed mascot would be a GREAT job for a Muslim woman.

Nope. Can't interact with male guests.
 
2010-09-28 09:35:46 AM
KatjaMouse: Ok... it's not like she got a job as a check out girl at Kroger's and refused to touch bacon and a bottle of wine because it was against her religion. Both examples they sited in TFA were women who were blatantly discriminated against for the sake of a uniform.

Firstly: We are told time and time again that the veils, et. al. are not part of Islam, they are "cultural",

Secondly: Do you believe that religious people should have more rights than non-religious people? By giving religious believers exemptions from rules that other people have to follow, you are basically saying that if you believe in God(s) you have a different set of rules.
 
2010-09-28 09:36:17 AM
KatjaMouse: Both examples they sited in TFA were women who were blatantly discriminated against for the sake of a uniform.

In other news, not making exceptions to the rules is blatent discrimination.

Muslim chicks in farking Turkey can't legally wear head rags to gubmint jobs and Allah doesn't seem to smite them... get over it or go take a job as PR for the nation of islam or something.
 
2010-09-28 09:36:20 AM
Sybarite: I think she may also be a member of the Rebel Alliance.

I don't know what you're talking about. She's a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.

/nerds know that I'm quoting out of order
 
2010-09-28 09:37:10 AM
lilplatinum: fark your religion, you should be able to practice it, no one else should be forced to lift one finger to help you continue with your delusions.

Yes, because wearing a hat puts so many demands on other people.
 
2010-09-28 09:38:40 AM
TheWizard: lilplatinum: fark your religion, you should be able to practice it, no one else should be forced to lift one finger to help you continue with your delusions.

Yes, because wearing a hat puts so many demands on other people.


This is why I'm so baffled by a few of the comments in here.
 
2010-09-28 09:38:49 AM
Cyborg77: Unsurprising, since ol' Walt Disney and the Muslims have a shared dislike of the Jews. Try getting to wear a yarmulka at Disney World.

What are you talking about? They sell them there, in every color, by the thousands every day.

Of course, they do have the ears attached...
 
2010-09-28 09:38:57 AM
TheWizard: Yes, because wearing a hat puts so many demands on other people.

A company should have the right to institute a dress code, at the point when you say these nutjobs can have legal reasons for their insanity to get them out of the rules, they are gonna start demanding more.

Yeah, my religion requires me to be wasted during work, I hope your company will accomodate my reasonable religious request.
 
2010-09-28 09:41:14 AM
lilplatinum: TheWizard: Yes, because wearing a hat puts so many demands on other people.

A company should have the right to institute a dress code, at the point when you say these nutjobs can have legal reasons for their insanity to get them out of the rules, they are gonna start demanding more.


Then why did they higher the restaurant hostess if they knew she wouldn't comply with their dress code?
 
2010-09-28 09:41:17 AM
GoodyearPimp: Sybarite: I think she may also be a member of the Rebel Alliance.

I don't know what you're talking about. She's a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.

/nerds know that I'm quoting out of order


Tear this amusment park apart! I want those PLANS!
 
2010-09-28 09:41:58 AM
lilplatinum: Muslim chicks in farking Turkey can't legally wear head rags to gubmint jobs and Allah doesn't seem to smite them... get over it or go take a job as PR for the nation of islam or something.

Well, being from Turkey is its own punishment.
 
2010-09-28 09:42:14 AM
I don't really have god in this fight, but how come she gets to wear a hijab but Christians can't wear their crosses (with or without a little dead Jesus) and Jews yarmulkes or those little pi symbol thingies? Can Sikhs wear their turbans (or their little sword dealies)? Can Scientologists wear their bank account number? Could Satanists wear their pentagrams? Or is that pentacles? Whatever. Can pagan environmentalists wear their smug superiority? Need they wear deodorant? Can Wiccans, their broad delusions that they represent a religion with an unbroken lineage to antiquity?
 
2010-09-28 09:42:34 AM
To be fair, Jasmine is really hot.
 
2010-09-28 09:42:38 AM
It's not a terrorist issue. Disney projects a certain brand image.
Most of their employees are considered 'cast members' and are told
**before** being hired that they have to dress / not dress in a
certain way.

If you can't or are unwilling to accept the dress code, here's a
tip - DON'T WORK THERE!

It would be like a Muslim woman being hired to work at Hooters and
then suing because she can't wear her burka and hajib instead of
the short shorts and t-shirt.
 
2010-09-28 09:43:02 AM
Is this the same girl who was complaining previously? Wasn't it already said that when you become an employee of Disney and you work in the public eye, you already agree to their strict dress code?
 
2010-09-28 09:43:57 AM
lilplatinum: TheWizard: Yes, because wearing a hat puts so many demands on other people.

A company should have the right to institute a dress code, at the point when you say these nutjobs can have legal reasons for their insanity to get them out of the rules, they are gonna start demanding more.

Yeah, my religion requires me to be wasted during work, I hope your company will accomodate my reasonable religious request.


It's just a freaking scarf.
 
2010-09-28 09:44:09 AM
The Homer Tax: Sounds like all sides were able to come to an amicable agreement. This strikes me as a good thing.

Yeah, I'm not sure why people are getting upset about this. As part of the uniform, the vacation experts have the choice to wear a blue baseball hat. The said she could wear a blue "head scarf" with a beret on top of that and she agreed to it. It isn't a big deal and certainty not news worthy. Seems like an issue both sides handled with respect and maturity.
 
2010-09-28 09:44:42 AM
alkhemy: Cyborg77: Unsurprising, since ol' Walt Disney and the Muslims have a shared dislike of the Jews. Try getting to wear a yarmulka at Disney World.

What are you talking about? They sell them there, in every color, by the thousands every day.

Of course, they do have the ears attached...


Why do Jews choose to wear a yamulka? Less hat equals cheaper hat.

Thanks Community.
 
2010-09-28 09:44:58 AM
digitalrain: It would be like a Muslim woman being hired to work at Hooters and
then suing because she can't wear her burka and hajib instead of
the short shorts and t-shirt.


i285.photobucket.com
 
2010-09-28 09:45:04 AM
KatjaMouse: Then why did they higher the restaurant hostess if they knew she wouldn't comply with their dress code?

Probably because you can't ask someone their religion when you hire them, and oncey ou higher them your farking stuck with them because firing them is a lawsuit. In in this article it shows they tried to accomodate her request (granted, hideously, but you can't be a delusional religious nutter and complain about your employer not accomodating your idiocy and your sense of fashion) -

http://ocresort.ocregister.com/2010/08/23/muslim-employee-rejects-disneys-hat-al ternative/53795/
 
2010-09-28 09:45:34 AM
Pants full of macaroni!!: Paging the "All Muslims Are Terrorists" crowd.

Plus she works for Disney! Hav eyou seen how jmuch they charge? Maybe have her as the mermaid (in a burka) as she got married at 15
 
2010-09-28 09:46:24 AM
liam76: KatjaMouse: Ok... it's not like she got a job as a check out girl at Kroger's and refused to touch bacon and a bottle of wine because it was against her religion. Both examples they sited in TFA were women who were blatantly discriminated against for the sake of a uniform.

Discriminated against means they were treated different. Unless they were forced to wear something that other in their position weren't forced to wear it wasn't a case of discrimination.


This - there is no discrimination here... The law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal bread. ~ Anatole France, 1894
 
2010-09-28 09:46:57 AM
atomsmoosher: I don't really have god in this fight, but how come she gets to wear a hijab but Christians can't wear their crosses (with or without a little dead Jesus) and Jews yarmulkes or those little pi symbol thingies? Can Sikhs wear their turbans (or their little sword dealies)? Can Scientologists wear their bank account number? Could Satanists wear their pentagrams? Or is that pentacles? Whatever. Can pagan environmentalists wear their smug superiority? Need they wear deodorant? Can Wiccans, their broad delusions that they represent a religion with an unbroken lineage to antiquity?

No. If you work onstage at Disney and your religion is discernible to guests, then you're violating the dress code applying to jobs at Disney. Unless you're Muslim, I guess. Disney was probably afraid they'd get bombed if they didn't cave to the demands.
 
2010-09-28 09:47:46 AM
KatjaMouse: Then why did they higher the restaurant hostess if they knew she wouldn't comply with their dress code?

If you are talking about the previous disney employee she worked in a hotel not a resaurant if I recall correctly and when she started working there she didn't wear headgear.

Are you proposing they ask if peopel are muslim and then not hire them because at some point they may decide they need to stop flaunting their hair in suich a slutty manner?
 
2010-09-28 09:48:32 AM
Masso: It's just a freaking scarf.

Yeah thats what Europe said when hitler got rolling.. "It's just freaking poland."
 
2010-09-28 09:48:37 AM
TheWizard: Yes, because wearing a hat puts so many demands on other people.

It's more that if hats aren't allowed under the dress code, then a hijab is just as prohibited as a baseball cap.

And if you know the workplace has a no-hat policy, and you don't want to go anywhere without your hijab, maybe you should have figured out that this wasn't the workplace for you BEFORE you got hired.


I'm all for respecting others' religion, but there's no need for anyone to get special treatment because of said religion. You're Jewish and don't want to work Saturdays, and that's a requirement? Tough nuts. Either work the Sabbath, or say so up front so they hire someone else who'll work the required shifts. Same for Christians who want Sundays off. Won't handle pork? The bacon factory is a no-no. Think eating meat is immoral and wrong? Bacon factory is also probably not for you.

In any of these cases, it's on the employee to figure out the expectations and decide if the job is for them, NOT the employer to roll over just because somebody says a magical invisible entity told their ancestors they shouldn't do that.
 
2010-09-28 09:48:54 AM
Wow, the comments on that article are full of some good Christian love...
 
2010-09-28 09:49:34 AM
TheWizard: Yes, because wearing a hat puts so many demands on other people.

So is a non-Muslim allowed to wear a hat?

Also, I think that Wiccans employees at Disney should sue, because many Disney movies have an anti-witch sentiment.
 
2010-09-28 09:50:26 AM
Once again people are getting up in arms over muslin.
 
2010-09-28 09:50:55 AM
i586.photobucket.com
 
2010-09-28 09:51:11 AM
alkhemy: Wow, the comments on that article are full of some good Christian love...

fark christians too.
 
2010-09-28 09:51:28 AM
lilplatinum: Probably because you can't ask someone their religion when you hire them, and oncey ou higher them your farking stuck with them because firing them is a lawsuit. In in this article it shows they tried to accomodate her request (granted, hideously, but you can't be a delusional religious nutter and complain about your employer not accomodating your idiocy and your sense of fashion) -

See, you don't fire them because of their religion, you fire them because they refuse to follow the dress code they agreed to abide by as part of their offer of employment.

That's the key. They have to agree to things like dress codes as part of accepting an offer of employment. Refusing to abide by it after the fact puts you clearly in the wrong.
 
2010-09-28 09:51:51 AM
Fark Disney. What idiot needs to believe that the guy sweeping up trash couldn't possibly be a jew?

/love the parks, hate the corporation.
 
2010-09-28 09:52:03 AM
8.5 tailed fox: Also, I think that Wiccans employees at Disney should sue, because many Disney movies have an anti-witch sentiment.

Disney doesn't hire fat people for "on-stage" work.
 
2010-09-28 09:52:25 AM
lilplatinum: Masso: It's just a freaking scarf.

Yeah thats what Europe said when hitler got rolling.. "It's just freaking poland."


I am going to try and work this godwin into a conversation at work today.
 
2010-09-28 09:52:55 AM
She can fetch coffee and make photocopies just as well with a hijab as without.

/interns are not people
 
2010-09-28 09:52:59 AM
Thorak: See, you don't fire them because of their religion, you fire them because they refuse to follow the dress code they agreed to abide by as part of their offer of employment.

That's the key. They have to agree to things like dress codes as part of accepting an offer of employment. Refusing to abide by it after the fact puts you clearly in the wrong.


Doesn't matter, even if the company is in the right they still get sued for not accomodating batshiat crazy, and even if they loose they still have to pay their lawyers.
 
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