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(Wired)   Skeptical guide to Doomsday   ( divider line
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14431 clicks; posted to Main » on 19 Jun 2003 at 4:01 PM (14 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»

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2003-06-19 11:30:12 AM  
Skynet and the rise of the machines is coming. I must be on Arnold's payroll. TX is coming And she has a HUMMER just for you.
2003-06-19 12:08:25 PM  
Spooky-sounding, sure. And dangerous. But bombs and bullets are dangerous, too.

doesn't this deserve something more along the lines of an obvious tag?
2003-06-19 12:51:08 PM  
Some things seem obvious when pointed out so clearly. The point being that standard, existing weapons are still the most efficient.
I thought it was a great article. Stuff I've been trying to say for years.
Don't waste time worrying about things that don't exist and probably never will. Genetically engineered nanobots and killer germs and such.
Far greater risks come from 1. volcanoes, 2. magnetic field shift, wild climatary fluctation, space rocks colliding with Earth. Nothing you can do about these things with the possible exception (but not likely) of steering away asteroids.
We should concentrate our efforts on things that already exist that we can do something about.
2003-06-19 04:03:44 PM  
2003-06-19 04:06:55 PM  
Will Smith and the Space Cowboys will save us.
2003-06-19 04:07:06 PM  
The end will only be near when Jane Fonda is named as "1 of the 100 greatest American women" or something to that effect.

2003-06-19 04:08:05 PM  
Pretty much since the end of the cold war our odds of obliterating ourselves has been reduced greatly. Now the most likely scenario for the extinction of the human races comes from a near earth object slamming into us.

And we have the technology now to prevent it... but we have done nothing to do so.
2003-06-19 04:08:10 PM  
I would read the article but who wants to waste thier remaining time on stuff like that? besides Doonesbury sucks!
2003-06-19 04:08:53 PM  
For some reason I read that as a sceptical guide to Doonesbury.
2003-06-19 04:09:10 PM  
Let's DDoS the Matrix and see what happens. 404s trying to go to the bathroom could wreak havoc.
2003-06-19 04:10:11 PM  

For some reason I read that as a sceptical guide to Doonesbury

Hmmmmm... Me too

/I'm so stupid
2003-06-19 04:10:11 PM  
The war against the machines is coming. Get ready for it.
2003-06-19 04:12:21 PM  
I read this article when this month's Wired issue arrived in my mailbox. It sucked then too.
2003-06-19 04:12:39 PM  
Glad I am not the only one who thought it was Doonesbury. Once I clicked on the link I was even more confused
2003-06-19 04:14:45 PM  
Sounds pretty optimisitic to me.
2003-06-19 04:15:19 PM  
Everytime I think about doomsday I get that stupid aerosmith song in my head
"I don't wanna close my eyes, I don't want to fall asleep.....etc."
2003-06-19 04:15:57 PM  
one of my favorite words ever is 'Krakatau'. It just sounds good, and is fun to say
2003-06-19 04:17:08 PM  

Who needs technology when we've got Steve?

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2003-06-19 04:17:32 PM  

If the end is near, then it is time for me to beat up that little shait Affleck so that I can marry Liv Tyler, while Aerosmith sings in the background.

I don't want to close my eyes,
I don't wanna fall asleep,
'Cause I'd miss you, baby,
And I don't wanna miss a thing !

2003-06-19 04:17:41 PM  
I think it's kind of narcissistic to think that your generation's special and that the world can't go on without you. Chances are life will go on. It might really really really suck, but it will go on.
2003-06-19 04:18:40 PM  
It makes me think of the Tool song Aenema

"some say the end is near" etc...
2003-06-19 04:23:10 PM  
(runs around frantically in circles with arms waving until someone smacks him back to his senses)
2003-06-19 04:23:18 PM  
What kind of crappy "we're not all gonna die" article is this? No mention of Planet X? Must not have had a snappy comeback for that one...
2003-06-19 04:24:39 PM  
They left out a possiblity I read about in an old science magazine from college: The dreamer awakens.

The Chinese philosopher Lao Tzu once had a dream that he was a butterfly, and he couldn't tell, while dreaming, if he were really a butterfly that had imagined he was a Chinese philosopher, or if he was a Chinese philosopher dreaming he was a butterfly.

In short, we could all be someone's very lucid dream (heck, one of us could be the dreamer), and if he/she wakes up, game over.
2003-06-19 04:25:30 PM  
Some say the end is near.
Some say we'll see armageddon soon.
I certainly hope we will.
I sure could use a vacation from this
FREAKS here in this HOPEless farking HOLE we call LA
2003-06-19 04:26:01 PM  
Go see the pros.

We're all gonna die!
2003-06-19 04:26:25 PM  
(looks at ModernHamlet's pic of Steve and is overcome with a sense of inner peace and well being)
2003-06-19 04:27:09 PM  
2003-06-19 04:27:42 PM  
Well damn, unfetchable link.
2003-06-19 04:28:16 PM  
If one of these events DOES occur, it's not likely it'll happen during our lifetimes. If it did, what stories we'd have to tell our grandkids!... Oh wait.
2003-06-19 04:28:45 PM  
completely irrelevant, but Im tired of staring at this damn gif everytime I come here. All it does is remind me of the time I had the chance to sleep with an amazingly built asian girl and didnt 'cause I was completely farking retarded.
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2003-06-19 04:28:51 PM  
Oh.. I thought it said Doonsbury.. thats very different then.. nevermind
2003-06-19 04:29:53 PM  
Actually, we are all going to die. Some more permanently than others.
2003-06-19 04:33:13 PM  
Zap Brannigan will save us! I hope...

/got nuthin'
2003-06-19 04:35:04 PM  

But with all the practice you get with their dating sim, next time you won't be such a dumbass.
2003-06-19 04:35:42 PM  
Henchman the problem with the dreamer awakens scenario is a lack of ability to prove it exists. Lao Tzu's idea that we are all part of somebody else's dream doesn't work because of the abscent observer problem. If we were just a single person's dream then when the dreamer was unable to observe us we would no long be necessary as part of the dream and would therefore cease to exist until we were needed by the dreamer again.
2003-06-19 04:37:18 PM  
The reason doomsday scenario's are more prevelant in the mainstream is because the illuminati is preparing the world for a real doomsday scenario which either they will manufacture or have advance knowledge of. This will allow them to acheive the 80% world population reduction they seek.
2003-06-19 04:37:47 PM  
Yeah Cokemonkey just remember that oriental girls on trains and busses only ride them because they want to be groped and have sex with strangers. That is what I learned from hentai games.
2003-06-19 04:38:09 PM  
I have less enthusiasm than you do about the end of the Cold War. Russia's nukes are less likely to be used against us en masse, but the small ones are less securely kept now. I think it would not be unlikely for terrorists or North Korea/Pakistan/India/China/Israel to spark a nuclear war. It would not be the "baloon bursting" in one day like we feared years ago. But it could escalate quickly into the same result.

I guess annihilation comes in 10-50 years.

"Mein Furhrer...I mean, Mr. President, I CAN WALK!"
2003-06-19 04:38:09 PM  
For years, everyday was Doom day in my house.
2003-06-19 04:38:37 PM  
Sounds like whistling past the graveyard to me...
2003-06-19 04:38:51 PM  
Code_Archeologist you can get around that by coupling it with the simulation idea (that everyone else, or most other people weren't "real"). So if you were the focus of the dream everyone else and everything else would just be to fill in your world. Georgia doesn't really exist, unless you go's just an idea to fill in your world view.
2003-06-19 04:39:30 PM  
Or the sun's distant companion star, Nemesis, sends an untimely barrage of comets our way

Nemesis theory real cool stuff. I reccommend a good search on it. I'm not getting started.
2003-06-19 04:40:31 PM  
Code: Oh, I agree it's highly unlikely. However, your objection assumes the dreamer is what we understand as human and has the limitations of a human. We could be the dream of Grothar Gargantucranius of Xoron VII. It would be cake for him, right?
2003-06-19 04:41:31 PM  
Wow, that post could have the worst grammar of anything I have ever posted to fark.
2003-06-19 04:41:33 PM  
06-19-03 04:28:45 PM Cokemonkey,

I stumbled into this thread by accident, but your post made me piss my pants and remind me of something I've got to go and do. Thanks!
2003-06-19 04:42:54 PM  
In order to provide unpredicactable and real behaviour, all elements of a simulation must be simulated. So even while you are not in Georgia, it is still being simulated. This happens in most multiplayer computer games. Think of command and conquer...if there are computer controlled armies fighting eachother and not you, they are still really fighting even though you can not see them.
2003-06-19 04:44:15 PM  
Did anybody else catch the Clinton bashing at the end? Practically blamed him for 9/11.
2003-06-19 04:45:55 PM  
Not a bad article...

He has no idea what he's talking about when he mumbles about Ebola thogh. The 1989 incident had an almost movie-worthy happy ending. I may have my Outbreaks of Ebola in the US incidents confused, but...

Ebola does not come in just one type. There are several 'breeds'. The most harmless, Harburg's (Ebola's cousin) kills one half of all humans it infects. Ebola Zaire, the deadliest strain, kills nine out of ten. That is a HUGE kill rate. The plague had a one out of four kill rate, if I recal.

The strain of Ebola found in the US, right in civilized society's lap, is called Ebola Reston. It is a borderline Twin of Ebola Zaire, the deadliest strain of Ebola... It is also far more infectious. It attacks lung tissue, and causes an Ebola flu. In the monkeys that it infected, it proved to travel through air, something Ebola has not done before... Thus, it is about as infectious as a Flu, but is Ebola.

So, why aren't we all dead? Well, Ebola Reston pops monkeys like so much bubble-wrap filled with red paint... But it's kill rate on humans is 0.00% It's got crap to do with immune system. Tests have been done. We have no immunity to Ebola Zaire. Hell, even faith in God doesn't work. The Ebola-filled blood sample for Zaire the government uses came from a now-dead Nun. There's just a tiny difference in the genetic structure of Ebola Reston from Ebola Zaire, which makes it harmless to humans, but deadly to monkeys. Some tiny beed of protien in the virus, which makes it attack only the tiny strand of DNA that makes monkeys different from us.

Reston is currently classified as a level four hot agent, and on the danger scale ranks about Zaire, the 9 out of 10 killer, even though it's harmless... Why? Because if it ever chooses to become "Not Harmless", it will have the same infection rate as a Flu... You ever have the Flu?
2003-06-19 04:45:57 PM  
Screw this, I'll start the damn apocalypse where's those WMD's!!
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