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2010-09-23 12:08:47 PM  
Dr Dreidel: Tenga: My girlfriend was smoking a joint while I went in to the store to buy some condoms. When I came out, I found her dead, straddling the gear shifter.

Took them two hours just to get the smile off her face.


Should have seen it coming, I guess.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2010-09-23 12:10:50 PM  
Serious Black: Why are alcohol and tobacco legal again?

Well, Tobacco is fairly bad. I did want to kill people when I quit smoking that. However, I didn't actually throw any punches.

Booze on the otherhand... That shiat is bad for you and everyone around you, especially in large quantities... I have never seen someone pound a joint or inhale a pack of cigarettes then go start a fight or walk into the street...

Yeah Yeah, glass o wine a day and all... But I mean BOOZE not wine. Beer is somewhere inbetween...
 
2010-09-23 12:11:15 PM  
Rann Xerox: dgc360: Shouldn't the tag read "Spliffy"?

Damn you! I came in here to post that.

*SHAKES FIST*


Damn you both! I came here to post that.

*SHAKES FIST HOLDING BAG OF FUNYUNS*
 
2010-09-23 12:12:05 PM  
Serious Black: But still, this is the ONLY case I've ever heard of where someone may actually have OD'ed on marijuana. Why are alcohol and tobacco legal again?

They are legal because it's a free country, you don't have to defend the legality of something, you have to defend the illegality of something. The real question is why is marijuana illegal. It's because they don't have a large lobbying firm and large coffers from which to donate to politicians. If we were doing this shiat on the merits it would have been decriminalized long ago.
 
2010-09-23 12:12:14 PM  
Maechyll: wyrlss: My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.

He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.

LOL! I remember you from the last legalization thread!


i think you mean /b/
 
2010-09-23 12:20:06 PM  
jpat: Regarding the differing polls, I want to know if they factor voter registration, likelihood of voting, or other predictors before publishing the results.

I'm really curious to find out if it's legalized to that level if employers can use a drug screen that discovers marijuana as a reason to not hire someone. If it's legal and the person isn't intoxicated at the time, can they refuse hire based on it? Any lawyers here know how it works with DWI and marijuana? Is it solely based on a field sobriety test? Or is there a way to determine the current level of intoxication of someone who's smoked pot?


Why shouldn't they be able to screen for it? They're allowed to discriminate against cigarette smokers and fatties and pretty much everything else except age/race/religion and the few other explicitly stated protected classes.
 
2010-09-23 12:25:11 PM  
wyrlss: My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.

He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they got scared and said 'You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel Air'

I whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and it had dice in the mirror. If anything I can say that this cab was rare, but I thought 'Nah forget it' - 'Yo homes to Bel Air'

I pulled up to the house about 7 or 8 and I yelled to the cabbie 'Yo homes smell ya later'. I looked at my kingdom. I was finally there to sit on my throne as the Prince of Bel Air.


/Really, do we do anything else with copypasta?
 
2010-09-23 12:26:09 PM  
What, exactly does 'decriminalization' mean?

My understanding is that it just means a particular thing is no longer a 'criminal' violation of the law.

Speeding, in most places in the US isn't a criminal violation. It's a civil violation. You can still be fined for it.

If weed is 'decriminalized' you wouldn't have to worry about being locked up for having some on you. But it could still be illegal to sell, distribute and manufacture. Likewise, there could still be civil penalties. Hell, I can get a civil fine from my city for not cutting my grass.

Can someone explain why I'm wrong, or shed some more light on what this really means?

If this bill passes in CA - will I be able to walk into a 7-11 and buy some weed? Can I start a my own line of designer weed and sell?

Or is it really just a shift in the punishment for having it? IE - I won't face jail-time; but I'll be racking up fines to fund the salaries of our hard-working civil servants?
 
2010-09-23 12:27:08 PM  
Weed the people.
 
2010-09-23 12:28:32 PM  
To the people comparing the bill in CA to MA's decriminalization, they're totally different. CA already has decrim, this bill is for full legalization, such that weed could be sold alongside alcohol or tobacco.

To the guy claiming his brother died on marijuana, it is physically impossible. The only circumstance which could have caused that would be if the bud was laced with something harder, which is -exceptionally- rare, and would actually be solved by the regulations introduced by prop 19.
 
2010-09-23 12:31:48 PM  
Fark_Guy_Rob: What, exactly does 'decriminalization' mean?

My understanding is that it just means a particular thing is no longer a 'criminal' violation of the law.

Speeding, in most places in the US isn't a criminal violation. It's a civil violation. You can still be fined for it.

If weed is 'decriminalized' you wouldn't have to worry about being locked up for having some on you. But it could still be illegal to sell, distribute and manufacture. Likewise, there could still be civil penalties. Hell, I can get a civil fine from my city for not cutting my grass.

Can someone explain why I'm wrong, or shed some more light on what this really means?

If this bill passes in CA - will I be able to walk into a 7-11 and buy some weed? Can I start a my own line of designer weed and sell?

Or is it really just a shift in the punishment for having it? IE - I won't face jail-time; but I'll be racking up fines to fund the salaries of our hard-working civil servants?


From what I understand of the bill, marijuana will be regulated almost exactly the same as alcohol.

Here's a decent rundown of the varying legalization provisions.

Most likely, the first thing that will happen is that the existing cannabis clubs in California will stop admitting only those with valid Prop 215 recommendations, and will instead simply check ID like a bouncer at a bar. You'll be limited to buying one ounce of the chronic at a time.
 
2010-09-23 12:33:40 PM  
Texas will never decriminalize, will never loosen up like in a lot of other states unless they are forced to. It kills me to read about people smoking in public or getting no hassle from the cops...here you'd be thrown in jail immediately.

I have been voting since 1988 and there has never been an election result that I have cared more about than this. Please California, please, do it for all of us, everywhere...it's up to you.
 
2010-09-23 12:34:14 PM  
Venter_Of_Russ: The only circumstance which could have caused that would be if the bud was laced with something harder, which is -exceptionally- rare,

not really that rare. Depends on what crowds you run with. see amy winehouse pic for more details.
 
2010-09-23 12:36:01 PM  
YoMammaObama: Venter_Of_Russ: The only circumstance which could have caused that would be if the bud was laced with something harder, which is -exceptionally- rare,

not really that rare. Depends on what crowds you run with. see amy winehouse pic for more details.


smoked weed laced with dust once accidentally. Only time it happened to me but I was 15 and it scared the shiate outta me.
 
2010-09-23 12:36:06 PM  
knbber2: Where the heck are you going to smoke it? You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere in CA including outside and often in your own apartment without the nicotene Nazis descending on you.

lies. I've smoked many a butt and many a joint on the streets of San Francisco. You have to be 10 yards from doorways, and nobody even enforces that.
 
2010-09-23 12:36:41 PM  
Fark_Guy_Rob: If this bill passes in CA - will I be able to walk into a 7-11 and buy some weed?

No.

Can I start a my own line of designer weed and sell? If you have a license to sell medicinal marijuana, I suppose...

Or is it really just a shift in the punishment for having it?

Yes. Here in MA, any amount under an ounce will result in confiscation and a fine.

IE - I won't face jail-time; but I'll be racking up fines to fund the salaries of our hard-working civil servants?

Could be... I'm not sure how the revenue from fines is doled out.
 
2010-09-23 12:39:38 PM  
keylock71: Course it's still better than the Pigs Inn on Route 6.

What? Nonsense. The King's Inn is a fine establishment, says so right on the sign!

i.imgur.com
 
2010-09-23 12:41:05 PM  
Fark_Guy_Rob: What, exactly does 'decriminalization' mean?

My understanding is that it just means a particular thing is no longer a 'criminal' violation of the law.

Speeding, in most places in the US isn't a criminal violation. It's a civil violation. You can still be fined for it.

If weed is 'decriminalized' you wouldn't have to worry about being locked up for having some on you. But it could still be illegal to sell, distribute and manufacture. Likewise, there could still be civil penalties. Hell, I can get a civil fine from my city for not cutting my grass.

Can someone explain why I'm wrong, or shed some more light on what this really means?


You are exactly right. the MA decrim bill makes being caught with up to an ounce of weed an offense punishable with a $100 dollar fine. You could get caught with an ounce every day, and you would only ever get $100 dollar fines. Furthermore, there is currently no system setup to ensure the fines are paid at all, and I don't think there is a criminal punishment for not paying.

I think you only get fined until you grow more then 50 plants as well, but I am unsure about that. The penalties for growing 49 plants is identical to 1 though.
 
2010-09-23 12:43:14 PM  
keylock71: If this bill passes in CA - will I be able to walk into a 7-11 and buy some weed?

No.


That may or may not be true. All Prop 19 states is that local governments can regulate the hours and location of the seller. A liberal town like San Rafael could feasibly permit 7-11 to sell marijuana between the hours of 9 am and 9 pm.

keylock71: Can I start a my own line of designer weed and sell? If you have a license to sell medicinal marijuana, I suppose...

After Prop 19, there is no such thing as "medicinal marijuana." It's just marijuana. If you are approved for a license and want to start up a business, you'd have to go through the licensing procedures.

keylock71: Or is it really just a shift in the punishment for having it?

Yes. Here in MA, any amount under an ounce will result in confiscation and a fine.


And in California, anything under one ounce after Prop 19 is legal.

keylock71: IE - I won't face jail-time; but I'll be racking up fines to fund the salaries of our hard-working civil servants?

Could be... I'm not sure how the revenue from fines is doled out.


No. There is no fine unless you knowingly break one of the laws pertaining to distribution. This is not decriminalization in the common sense. It's legalization.
 
2010-09-23 12:43:27 PM  
keylock71: FarkedOver: keylock71: FarkedOver: I hear that. And RI cops can suck it. I stay out of RI and only go through it if I absolutely have to

I wouldn't go that far, myself... I love Providence. Prefer it to Boston, actually.

You've got to watch your step in places like Newport and Bristol, where the cops are definitely dickheads, but it's a pretty casual state, and you can't beat Block Island. It's like Martha's Vineyard was 15 to 20 years ago.

Yeah yeah yeah all you people in Bristol county love Providence, I don't get it. Plymouth county represent!

Heh... probably because the folks up in Boston have a tendency to forget we're part of Massachusetts down here on the South Coast (Looking at you South Coast Rail Link). Plus Providence is a 15 minute drive with little traffic compared to the 45-60 minute ride (longer if the traffic is heavy) to the Bean.


Yeah, that does suck about the rail. You can probably blame the folks in the affluent towns like Hingham and Cohasset for blocking that. I know Hingham didn't want any part of the rail link to Boston because they didn't want any undesirables coming into their area. Furthermore, they didn't want the tracks going through their town so tax payers had to spend more money building the tracks UNDERGROUND, as to not disturb the quaintness of their little town. On top of all that, they have their station stop outside of their town, so even when you get off the train you have a bit of a walk to the center of town. Now they are biatching it's too far away for them to get to. These people are jackasses of the highest order.
 
2010-09-23 12:44:08 PM  
Jackson Herring: keylock71: Course it's still better than the Pigs Inn on Route 6.

What? Nonsense. The King's Inn is a fine establishment, says so right on the sign!


That sign always cracks me up... I like how they never say who made that determination and it's been there for oh, a decade or so.
 
2010-09-23 12:44:43 PM  
fluffy2097: Fark_Guy_Rob: What, exactly does 'decriminalization' mean?

My understanding is that it just means a particular thing is no longer a 'criminal' violation of the law.

Speeding, in most places in the US isn't a criminal violation. It's a civil violation. You can still be fined for it.

If weed is 'decriminalized' you wouldn't have to worry about being locked up for having some on you. But it could still be illegal to sell, distribute and manufacture. Likewise, there could still be civil penalties. Hell, I can get a civil fine from my city for not cutting my grass.

Can someone explain why I'm wrong, or shed some more light on what this really means?

You are exactly right. the MA decrim bill makes being caught with up to an ounce of weed an offense punishable with a $100 dollar fine. You could get caught with an ounce every day, and you would only ever get $100 dollar fines. Furthermore, there is currently no system setup to ensure the fines are paid at all, and I don't think there is a criminal punishment for not paying.

I think you only get fined until you grow more then 50 plants as well, but I am unsure about that. The penalties for growing 49 plants is identical to 1 though.


And the California Proposition is not decrim. It's legalization. You can carry up to an ounce for personal consumption, you can manufacture as many plants as you can fit into 25 square feet, and provided you have the right licensing, sell.
 
2010-09-23 12:45:47 PM  
The_Six_Fingered_Man: keylock71: If this bill passes in CA - will I be able to walk into a 7-11 and buy some weed?

No.

That may or may not be true. All Prop 19 states is that local governments can regulate the hours and location of the seller. A liberal town like San Rafael could feasibly permit 7-11 to sell marijuana between the hours of 9 am and 9 pm.

keylock71: Can I start a my own line of designer weed and sell? If you have a license to sell medicinal marijuana, I suppose...

After Prop 19, there is no such thing as "medicinal marijuana." It's just marijuana. If you are approved for a license and want to start up a business, you'd have to go through the licensing procedures.

keylock71: Or is it really just a shift in the punishment for having it?

Yes. Here in MA, any amount under an ounce will result in confiscation and a fine.

And in California, anything under one ounce after Prop 19 is legal.

keylock71: IE - I won't face jail-time; but I'll be racking up fines to fund the salaries of our hard-working civil servants?

Could be... I'm not sure how the revenue from fines is doled out.

No. There is no fine unless you knowingly break one of the laws pertaining to distribution. This is not decriminalization in the common sense. It's legalization.


Ah, thanks... Just going by how it's done here in MA. I kind of like CA proposition better. Hope it passes.
 
2010-09-23 12:47:24 PM  
Ow! That was my feelings!
ga362: In states with mmj, do you have to be a resident to obtain a card?

yes. need a state id in Colorado, anyway.


Damn. I live 40 miles from Colorado. Guess I could get a post office box in Holly. Any dispensory close to the KS CO line?
 
2010-09-23 12:47:34 PM  
keylock71: Ah, thanks... Just going by how it's done here in MA. I kind of like CA proposition better. Hope it passes.

You should like prop 19 more.

MA still has to legalize for medical reasons, then they'll finally open up full legalization. I'd say MA is 2-4 years behind CA, depending on how the economy goes.
 
2010-09-23 12:53:42 PM  
As a resident of BC, I will be thoroughly embarassed if the States legalizes it first.

Many people want to legalize it here in Canada, but foreign influences always seem to have a way of stopping it.

/Free Marc Emery!
 
2010-09-23 12:53:50 PM  
FarkedOver: Yeah, that does suck about the rail. You can probably blame the folks in the affluent towns like Hingham and Cohasset for blocking that. I know Hingham didn't want any part of the rail link to Boston because they didn't want any undesirables coming into their area. Furthermore, they didn't want the tracks going through their town so tax payers had to spend more money building the tracks UNDERGROUND, as to not disturb the quaintness of their little town. On top of all that, they have their station stop outside of their town, so even when you get off the train you have a bit of a walk to the center of town. Now they are biatching it's too far away for them to get to. These people are jackasses of the highest order.

Ugh, don't even get me started on that one... Some administrator from one of those towns said something along the lines of, "Why do they need to be connected to Boston by rail? It's not like some uneducated immigrant from Fall River or New Bedford who can't speak English is going to be able to get a job in Boston."... Yeah, Jackass, we're all uneducated immigrants down here. Not a college degree among the lot of us, you farking bigoted asshole... Never mind that Boston is chock full of "uneducated immigrants", who don't seem to have a problem finding work. (Worked in Boston for five years. Rode the Bonanza Bus back and forth. It was always full of folks on their way up to Boston for work for the day.
 
2010-09-23 12:59:08 PM  
knbber2: Where the heck are you going to smoke it? You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere in CA including outside and often in your own apartment without the nicotene Nazis descending on you.


In your house or your backyard? Or in your car?

Also, it isn't illegal to smoke cigarettes outside in CA, it's usually just a certain foot distance from establishment entrance/exits. I smoked cigarettes for years walking around out here and never once was even looked at sideways by a cop, nor do I know any smokers who have gotten a ticket for any such thing.

/Glad I ditched the cancer sticks
 
2010-09-23 01:00:21 PM  
keylock71: FarkedOver: Yeah, that does suck about the rail. You can probably blame the folks in the affluent towns like Hingham and Cohasset for blocking that. I know Hingham didn't want any part of the rail link to Boston because they didn't want any undesirables coming into their area. Furthermore, they didn't want the tracks going through their town so tax payers had to spend more money building the tracks UNDERGROUND, as to not disturb the quaintness of their little town. On top of all that, they have their station stop outside of their town, so even when you get off the train you have a bit of a walk to the center of town. Now they are biatching it's too far away for them to get to. These people are jackasses of the highest order.

Ugh, don't even get me started on that one... Some administrator from one of those towns said something along the lines of, "Why do they need to be connected to Boston by rail? It's not like some uneducated immigrant from Fall River or New Bedford who can't speak English is going to be able to get a job in Boston."... Yeah, Jackass, we're all uneducated immigrants down here. Not a college degree among the lot of us, you farking bigoted asshole... Never mind that Boston is chock full of "uneducated immigrants", who don't seem to have a problem finding work. (Worked in Boston for five years. Rode the Bonanza Bus back and forth. It was always full of folks on their way up to Boston for work for the day.


Well in their defense you uneducated immigrants will bring the devil weed and jazz music to their wholesome towns... they can't have that!
 
2010-09-23 01:02:11 PM  
ga362: Ow! That was my feelings!
ga362: In states with mmj, do you have to be a resident to obtain a card?

yes. need a state id in Colorado, anyway.

Damn. I live 40 miles from Colorado. Guess I could get a post office box in Holly. Any dispensory close to the KS CO line?


Pretty sure the ID is only valid for the state of Colorado. As soon as you crossed back over to KS it won't mean jack.
 
2010-09-23 01:04:49 PM  
keylock71: hat sign always cracks me up... I like how they never say who made that determination and it's been there for oh, a decade or so.

You go by that way often? It's right in my neighborhood (relatively for westport anyway), and I eat at Thai Taste across the street all the time.
 
2010-09-23 01:07:10 PM  
FarkedOver: Well in their defense you uneducated immigrants will bring the devil weed chourico and jazz Fado music to their wholesome towns... they can't have that!

: )

But in all fairness, I suppose it would expand our heroin dealing range... Straight from the fishing boats of New Bedford to your little suburb. *evil laugh*
 
2010-09-23 01:07:25 PM  
farm4.static.flickr.com
 
2010-09-23 01:07:58 PM  
SearchN: ga362: Ow! That was my feelings!
ga362: In states with mmj, do you have to be a resident to obtain a card?

yes. need a state id in Colorado, anyway.

Damn. I live 40 miles from Colorado. Guess I could get a post office box in Holly. Any dispensory close to the KS CO line?

Pretty sure the ID is only valid for the state of Colorado. As soon as you crossed back over to KS it won't mean jack.


"Full Faith and Credit" be damned!!

// yes, I know possession means within boundary lines it's still illegal
 
2010-09-23 01:10:06 PM  
Im curious how this will play out if passed vs the feds.
 
2010-09-23 01:10:33 PM  
The Flexecutioner

[spliffytag.jpg]

Background is too blue. Needs to be the same color as the Obvious, Sappy, or Weird tags. Strange tag for the really good stuff.
 
2010-09-23 01:11:20 PM  
The Flexecutioner: good jorb, sir :)
 
2010-09-23 01:11:51 PM  
Dr Dreidel: SearchN: ga362: Ow! That was my feelings!
ga362: In states with mmj, do you have to be a resident to obtain a card?

yes. need a state id in Colorado, anyway.

Damn. I live 40 miles from Colorado. Guess I could get a post office box in Holly. Any dispensory close to the KS CO line?

Pretty sure the ID is only valid for the state of Colorado. As soon as you crossed back over to KS it won't mean jack.

"Full Faith and Credit" be damned!!

// yes, I know possession means within boundary lines it's still illegal


Tell you what. Next time we do this:

static.guim.co.uk

Ill smoke one for you.

/Image is hot.
 
2010-09-23 01:12:02 PM  
Berz: Im curious how this will play out if passed vs the feds.

Depends on how firm Obama's promise to not arrest or raid people who are complying with State law is. If the State law says it's legal, there is not much that the DEA would be involved with, except illicit distribution. Something tells me that the locals can handle that just like they handle underage consumption of alcohol.
 
2010-09-23 01:13:57 PM  
SearchN: Tell you what. Next time we do this:

Jesus. I need a bag of Funyuns just from LOOKING at that picture.
 
2010-09-23 01:14:49 PM  
Jackson Herring: keylock71: hat sign always cracks me up... I like how they never say who made that determination and it's been there for oh, a decade or so.

You go by that way often? It's right in my neighborhood (relatively for westport anyway), and I eat at Thai Taste across the street all the time.


Not too often, but I like to take the long way to New Bedford sometimes... Listen to some music and clear my head before work.

I love Thai Taste... The Indian place that took over their old location is pretty good too. My favorite is still the Lebanese Kitchen, though. I like the Healthy Grille, though the nude model from my drawing classes when I was in school is one of their waitresses. Her massive jugs are distracting even covered in cloths... makes for awkward dinners with the wife. : )
 
2010-09-23 01:15:47 PM  
Jackson Herring: SearchN: Tell you what. Next time we do this:

Jesus. I need a bag of Funyuns just from LOOKING at that picture.


You should try being here. Every year that it rolls around I am damn tempted to make some brownies and sell them at 20$ a pop. So much smoke in the air you get a contact high just walking through the crowd. Of course, the fear of the real dealers jumping me is the real concern.
 
2010-09-23 01:16:40 PM  
One question I have is how it relates to business. Will a business be able to discriminate against employees due to use of a product that is legal? Will, say, Office Depot be able to fire or not hire people for finding pot in their system?
 
2010-09-23 01:18:40 PM  
Now we just need the rest of the country to follow suit.
 
2010-09-23 01:20:21 PM  
skullkrusher: The Flexecutioner: good jorb, sir :)

I love it!
 
2010-09-23 01:22:55 PM  
Jackson Herring: SearchN: Tell you what. Next time we do this:

Jesus. I need a bag of Funyuns just from LOOKING at that picture.


Oh, and its a large enough event that I pulled that image from The Guardian. Google 'Boulder 420' for a better understanding of what its like.
 
2010-09-23 01:23:53 PM  
SearchN: Dr Dreidel: SearchN: Pretty sure the ID is only valid for the state of Colorado. As soon as you crossed back over to KS it won't mean jack.

"Full Faith and Credit" be damned!!

// yes, I know possession means within boundary lines it's still illegal

Tell you what. Next time we do this:

[lots-of-smoke.jpg]

Ill smoke one for you.

/Image is hot.


Where is that from, and can I have a ticket?
 
2010-09-23 01:24:16 PM  
I came home to find a "no on prop 19" pamphlet. It shows a mother and her child looking sad saying it's "Bad medicine for San Francisco."

/More pathetic than the troll in this thread.
 
2010-09-23 01:27:12 PM  
skullkrusher: YoMammaObama: Venter_Of_Russ: The only circumstance which could have caused that would be if the bud was laced with something harder, which is -exceptionally- rare,

not really that rare. Depends on what crowds you run with. see amy winehouse pic for more details.

smoked weed laced with dust once accidentally. Only time it happened to me but I was 15 and it scared the shiate outta me.


Same thing happened to me. Dude! Were you, by chance, in San Jose, CA during spring of 1989?
 
2010-09-23 01:28:50 PM  
KrustyKitten: skullkrusher: YoMammaObama: Venter_Of_Russ: The only circumstance which could have caused that would be if the bud was laced with something harder, which is -exceptionally- rare,

not really that rare. Depends on what crowds you run with. see amy winehouse pic for more details.

smoked weed laced with dust once accidentally. Only time it happened to me but I was 15 and it scared the shiate outta me.

Same thing happened to me. Dude! Were you, by chance, in San Jose, CA during spring of 1989?


hehe nope, Long Island, NY Fall of 1990
 
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