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2010-09-23 10:08:28 AM  
Where the heck are you going to smoke it? You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere in CA including outside and often in your own apartment without the nicotene Nazis descending on you.
 
2010-09-23 10:10:27 AM  

knbber2: Where the heck are you going to smoke it?


Churn it into a butter and use it to make brownies.
 
2010-09-23 10:12:52 AM  

knbber2: Where the heck are you going to smoke it? You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere in CA including outside and often in your own apartment without the nicotene Nazis descending on you.


I live in an apartment complex in Los Angeles county and I smell weed smoke wafting in through my windows all the time, I actually smell it more often than cigarettes at this point.
 
2010-09-23 10:13:11 AM  

knbber2: Where the heck are you going to smoke it? You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere in CA including outside and often in your own apartment without the nicotene Nazis descending on you.


google "smokeless bongs"
 
2010-09-23 10:16:37 AM  

knbber2: Where the heck are you going to smoke it? You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere in CA including outside and often in your own apartment without the nicotene Nazis descending on you.


As a guy who doesn't smoke either, I'd much rather smell weed than cigarette smoke.
 
2010-09-23 10:18:35 AM  
the funny thing is, this initiative might actually get enough young people off the couch and to the polls that it could put barbara boxer over the top.
 
2010-09-23 10:22:26 AM  

knbber2: Where the heck are you going to smoke it? You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere in CA including outside and often in your own apartment without the nicotene Nazis descending on you.


i don't know how much of this statement is true
 
2010-09-23 10:47:51 AM  
A lot of it is true. Cig smoking is a no-no. hell they even started a measure to block cig smoking in public parks, your home, your car, etc. but eased up after the pot folks said, hey what about us?

But it is hard to find a place to smoke. Easier to smoke weed.
 
2010-09-23 10:49:41 AM  

In early July, Field Research (perhaps the most widely known and respected California-based polling firm) showed Prop. 19 failing 48 - 44 percent in a live-interview phone survey of 1,005 likely voters. Before that, Survey USA (another national firm that, like PPP, conducts automated polls) showed legalization prevailing 56 - 42 percent in an April 20 (ha.) survey of 500 Californians.


Who wants to admit to supporting legalization of an illicit activity to a live person? I'd be willing to bet social pressure affected the results of that first poll. Besides, potheads are too slow to answer the phone in time.
/Dave's not here man
 
2010-09-23 10:49:57 AM  

Korora: A lot of it is true. Cig smoking is a no-no. hell they even started a measure to block cig smoking in public parks, your home, your car, etc. but eased up after the pot folks said, hey what about us?

But it is hard to find a place to smoke. Easier to smoke weed.


but so far i don't believe california has banned smoking everywhere outside or in your apartment
 
2010-09-23 10:55:11 AM  
Shouldn't the tag read "Spliffy"?
 
2010-09-23 10:59:00 AM  

Code_Archeologist: knbber2: Where the heck are you going to smoke it?

Churn it into a butter and use it to make brownies.


damn right, look up "Cannabutter"
 
2010-09-23 11:06:23 AM  

knbber2: Where the heck are you going to smoke it? You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere in CA including outside and often in your own apartment without the nicotene Nazis descending on you.


Go to the Arcata town square. With the benevolent statue of President McKinley watching over you, you can smoke all you want. Not cigarettes of course, you get a ticket for that.
 
2010-09-23 11:14:53 AM  

dgc360: Code_Archeologist: knbber2: Where the heck are you going to smoke it?

Churn it into a butter and use it to make brownies.

damn right, look up "Cannabutter"


Probably healthier for you too. Literally smoking is probably the worst way to get your nicotine or THC (maybe chewing, because shiat that's nasty), e-cigs and bongs (which are basically low tech e cigs, they're vaporizers) are much cleaner delivery methods.
/I wonder if you can use e-cigs for pot, probably
 
2010-09-23 11:16:55 AM  

dgc360: Shouldn't the tag read "Spliffy"?


Damn you! I came in here to post that.

*SHAKES FIST*
 
2010-09-23 11:17:06 AM  
HOLD UP, HEY!
 
2010-09-23 11:17:50 AM  
Someone should do a website where stoners in cali can sign up and they get harassed by all us stoners in other states on election day until they go vote.
 
2010-09-23 11:18:35 AM  
I love Cali and I'm trying to get back there. But this election really has me boggling. We have stupid Meg Whitman saying that farking NEW JERSEY is a model for California but we're supposed to legalize pot?

Goddamn it, California, get your act together, pull your head out of your ass, get some balls, and repeal Prop 13. Everything else is just a farking band-aid.
 
2010-09-23 11:19:41 AM  
Am I the only one that thinks this is too good to be true? As in I used to be all idealistic and crap, but I have now accepted that legalization will never happen in my lifetime.

I feel like a Cubs fan.
 
2010-09-23 11:23:06 AM  

Korora: A lot of it is true. Cig smoking is a no-no. hell they even started a measure to block cig smoking in public parks, your home, your car, etc. but eased up after the pot folks said, hey what about us?

But it is hard to find a place to smoke. Easier to smoke weed.


Drama queen you are. I live in the people's republic of San Francisco and I can smoke pretty much anywhere except inside.
 
2010-09-23 11:23:30 AM  
I don't know much about this because I can smoke weed openly in Canada without much worry. Been caught once, but all the cops did was take my pipe, write me a warning and told me to be more careful next time.

How will it work in Cali exactly if this passes? Will there be coffee shops like in Amsterdam?
 
2010-09-23 11:23:37 AM  
It's not going to pass. Old people vote in droves in midterms and they're the only ones.
 
2010-09-23 11:23:49 AM  
Working out great so far here in MA...

I highly recommend it. Cops aren't wasting time busting recreational smokers, and I don't feel paranoid driving home from picking up a fresh supply. It's only applicable to amounts up to an oz, and they should have just made marijuana completely legal, in my opinion, but baby steps, I guess.
 
2010-09-23 11:24:19 AM  
I cannot wait for the attack ads like the fictional fairy tale of 'The King and the Weed' being taught at a elementary school. Basically the same people who did 'The Two Kings'.
 
2010-09-23 11:24:25 AM  
Polls are complete shiat... Depending on how the poll organizers WANT the answers to be is how they will slant the questions... And of course all that depends on who's paying for it.

And of course how they word the bloody thing on the ballot doesn't help either. They had a proposition on the ballot here in FL about gay marriage, and I had to read the damned thing 3 times in order to decide which way to vote... and I already was informed about the issue.

Then everyone looked at the results and said "See, everyone is against gay marriage!", when 1/2 to 3/4ths of the people I talked to weren't.
 
2010-09-23 11:26:10 AM  

keylock71: Working out great so far here in MA...

I highly recommend it. Cops aren't wasting time busting recreational smokers, and I don't feel paranoid driving home from picking up a fresh supply. It's only applicable to amounts up to an oz, and they should have just made marijuana completely legal, in my opinion, but baby steps, I guess.


Hell yeah. Few friends of mine said that even if you get caught with weed and get the ticket, there is no penalty for not paying the ticket...I don't know if thats true but, if it is, it is awesome.
 
2010-09-23 11:26:34 AM  

Headso: Someone should do a website where stoners in cali can sign up and they get harassed by all us stoners in other states on election day until they go vote.


"Munchie! Wake the fark up, man!"
 
2010-09-23 11:26:45 AM  

knbber2: You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere in CA including outside and often in your own apartment without the nicotene Nazis descending on you.


Thank god someone is looking out for us. Smoking anything is idiotic. then again most stoners are farking morans, so I guess it shouldn't surprise anyone.
 
2010-09-23 11:28:03 AM  
If this passes, I'm curious as to how the social conservatives/pro-state's rights folks will react.

/hope it passes
 
2010-09-23 11:29:12 AM  
My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.

He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.
 
2010-09-23 11:29:24 AM  
I don't smoke, I've never so much as tried pot, I think most vocal stoners (the ones who won't shut up about how high they are) are obnoxious twats, and even I think it should be decriminalized (pending valid health studies). At the very least, severely reduce the penalties and law enforcement time spent on such a retardedly minor issue.
 
2010-09-23 11:30:20 AM  
Although I can't stand weed smoke or ciggy smoke, I fully support this prop. Legalize it, tax it, and help support our suck-ass economy with all the related sales coming from munchie cravings. Taco Bell and Jack in the Box stocks will skyrocket!
 
2010-09-23 11:31:33 AM  
wyrlss
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.

So he smoked 30,000 pounds of weed? Nice!

/that troll was weaker than something really f*cking weak
 
2010-09-23 11:31:51 AM  

wyrlss: My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.

He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.


LOL +1, would LOL again!
 
2010-09-23 11:32:00 AM  
Poor effort, wyrlss.
 
2010-09-23 11:32:04 AM  

Shaggy_C: knbber2: You can't smoke a cigarette anywhere in CA including outside and often in your own apartment without the nicotene Nazis descending on you.

Thank god someone is looking out for us. Smoking anything is idiotic.


Here's hoping nobody is "looking out for us" when it's decided that FARKing at work is idiotic.
 
2010-09-23 11:32:33 AM  
Regarding the differing polls, I want to know if they factor voter registration, likelihood of voting, or other predictors before publishing the results.

I'm really curious to find out if it's legalized to that level if employers can use a drug screen that discovers marijuana as a reason to not hire someone. If it's legal and the person isn't intoxicated at the time, can they refuse hire based on it? Any lawyers here know how it works with DWI and marijuana? Is it solely based on a field sobriety test? Or is there a way to determine the current level of intoxication of someone who's smoked pot?
 
2010-09-23 11:32:33 AM  

wyrlss: My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.

He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.


While most people will point out the obvious - it's not possible to OD on marijuana. Pot cigarettes come in packs?

At least make it slightly funny next time so I can get some lulz. :-(
 
2010-09-23 11:32:41 AM  

wyrlss: My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.

He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.


So uh...do you know who he got his stuff from? I'd like to give him a call.
 
2010-09-23 11:32:43 AM  
Don't smoke, vaporize.
 
2010-09-23 11:33:30 AM  

wyrlss: My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.

He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.


Cool bro, story.
 
2010-09-23 11:33:58 AM  

wyrlss: My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.

He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.


No matter how many times I read it I still get THC Overdose out of these replies...
 
2010-09-23 11:34:06 AM  

lennavan: wyrlss: My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.

He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.

While most people will point out the obvious - it's not possible to OD on marijuana. Pot cigarettes come in packs?

At least make it slightly funny next time so I can get some lulz. :-(


I liked the 9/11 instead of 9-11. I thought that was good too.
 
2010-09-23 11:34:18 AM  

FarkedOver: keylock71: Working out great so far here in MA...

I highly recommend it. Cops aren't wasting time busting recreational smokers, and I don't feel paranoid driving home from picking up a fresh supply. It's only applicable to amounts up to an oz, and they should have just made marijuana completely legal, in my opinion, but baby steps, I guess.

Hell yeah. Few friends of mine said that even if you get caught with weed and get the ticket, there is no penalty for not paying the ticket...I don't know if thats true but, if it is, it is awesome.


Don't know if that's the case...

Honestly, it wasn't even that big of a deal before it was decriminalized. I pretty much keep my pot smoking contained to my home and my back yard these days, but the few times I've had run ins with the police and had weed on me, they basically just confiscated it and gave me a warning. Hell, one time I was a passenger in a car that got pulled over by the RI State Police (known for being hard-asses especially if you're from MA) right after we had just finished blazing one and the cop basically threw the roach out, told us to put our seat belts on and drive the speed limit back to MA... and have a nice day. (It helped the driver was ex-military and talked a little shop talk with the cop, who was also ex-military.)
 
2010-09-23 11:34:48 AM  
A few points as someone who may or may not live in Cali and have a MM card...

It feels like it's going to pass. There are literally thousands of dispensories in LA alone. They are more common than McDonalds. The attitude also seems very positive with even relatives I didn't think would be supportive saying they would vote in favor of legalization.

Smoking pot is actually more accepted then smoking cigarettes, at least in LA. It's not even a joke anymore, it's just true. Saturday I saw a kid smoking a blunt outside the donut shop in the middle of the afternoon with tons of people around. No one even looked twice. I can't even remember the last time I saw someone smoking a cigarette outside in LA. It's immediately noticable if you come from smoker friendly states.

Finally, they didn't do any backwards logic like the gay marriage ban where yes = ban gay marriage. Yes on 19 = legalization. So it's worded in favor of legalizing.

It'll pass, you heard it here first.
 
2010-09-23 11:34:49 AM  

wyrlss: My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.


-1/10
 
2010-09-23 11:35:29 AM  

wyrlss: My brother died after overdosing on Marijuana.

He was invited by the "cool kids" to hang out at some kids house whose liberal parents had left for the weekend.
My brother, always a moral and thoughtful individual, wanted to attend because it was one of those massive house parties that he'd never been to.
Well, as was later recalled by some of his friends at the party, he was pressured into smoking marijuana. He ended up smoking the entire pack of marijuana cigarettes. Not long after he went into convulsions and started foaming at the mouth. The people at the party held back calling 9/11 for almost 10 minutes. When the paramedics finally arrived they could do nothing to save him.
The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died after smoking that illegal narcotic.


That happened to my brother too, but he peeled his hand like an orange and then jumped out the window because he thought he could fly.

It's too bad cuz he missed out on this one girl at the party who had a hot dog stuck in her and this dude who everybody saw let a dog lick cheez whiz off his balls.

True story.
 
2010-09-23 11:36:30 AM  

wyrlss: The autopsy revealed he had 3 times the lethal dosage of THC in his blood.
But I'm sure everyone here will deny my story and the fact that my brother died


No he didn't. It's impossible to overdose on marijuana. The lethal dose is impossible to obtain.

And yes I know you're just trolling.
 
2010-09-23 11:36:50 AM  

FarkedOver: Few friends of mine said that even if you get caught with weed and get the ticket, there is no penalty for not paying the ticket...I don't know if thats true but, if it is, it is awesome.


I've heard that too, I get it if you're a poor college kid not paying but if I get a ticket for weed, I'd just pay it so I'm not on some list owing the state money. I don't see why they don't just take it out of their tax returns if they don't pay.
 
2010-09-23 11:37:02 AM  

keylock71: FarkedOver: keylock71: Working out great so far here in MA...

I highly recommend it. Cops aren't wasting time busting recreational smokers, and I don't feel paranoid driving home from picking up a fresh supply. It's only applicable to amounts up to an oz, and they should have just made marijuana completely legal, in my opinion, but baby steps, I guess.

Hell yeah. Few friends of mine said that even if you get caught with weed and get the ticket, there is no penalty for not paying the ticket...I don't know if thats true but, if it is, it is awesome.

Don't know if that's the case...

Honestly, it wasn't even that big of a deal before it was decriminalized. I pretty much keep my pot smoking contained to my home and my back yard these days, but the few times I've had run ins with the police and had weed on me, they basically just confiscated it and gave me a warning. Hell, one time I was a passenger in a car that got pulled over by the RI State Police (known for being hard-asses especially if you're from MA) right after we had just finished blazing one and the cop basically threw the roach out, told us to put our seat belts on and drive the speed limit back to MA... and have a nice day. (It helped the driver was ex-military and talked a little shop talk with the cop, who was also ex-military.)


I hear that. And RI cops can suck it. I stay out of RI and only go through it if I absolutely have to
 
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