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2010-09-16 08:32:48 AM
Request #1: Shut the fark up and bring me my food.
 
2010-09-16 08:53:50 AM
Sybarite: Request #1: Shut the fark up and bring me my food.

qft
 
2010-09-16 09:02:33 AM
Yeah, that wasn't written as a troll.

But here. Let's see if we can't re-create some of that tone.

***

First of all, this:

Have you dined here before?

is one about the most stupid questions that exists in the restaurant dining experience. Unless successfully eating at the restaurant requires some extraordinary piece of information that no normal person would be expected to possess--like, for example, the back door opens every half hour and a pack of hyenas is released into the room and anybody who doesn't immediately leap onto their table is ripped asunder and becomes the next special--my having been or not been in the restaurant before is meaningless. Give me a menu, tell me the specials, bring me my drink, and be on your pretty little way.

Of course, you do need to check back in every now and then. If you check back in and see that someone's drink is near empty, you should immediately ask if they want a refill. Note, though, that in cases where someone has ordered a bottle of wine, you should not take it upon yourself to pour it for them--unless, of course, they've asked for you to do this. Lifting a bottle of wine and pouring it into a glass takes no special training, contrary to what you may have been told in that exclusive waiter training you did when you followed that other waiter around like a puppy for two weeks. Someone who's drinking from a bottle probably wants to do it him or herself, and doesn't need you pushing them through the bottle just so you can try to add another one to the tab. Don't worry...they'll order one if they want one.

On another note, do remember that, unless specifically invited, you have no contribution of any worth to make to any conversation taking place at the table. Nobody wants to hear your comment on a story someone at the table is telling. Nobody cares that you have a friend who just got back from the same vacation. Nobody cares that you're trying to be an actor. All anybody cares about is that you serve the table in a benignly friendly way and don't require *us* to accommodate *you*. Which also means that if you approach the table and find everybody there in the midst of a conversation, you DO NOT interrupt it to ask if anybody wants more bread, or to admit that you've forgotten part of the order because you didn't write any of it down and instead tried to operate off of the fearsome power of your own memory. Instead, you stand quietly off the side and wait to be recognized. Don't worry, we see you. We won't make you wait long if you haven't been a pain in the ass up to that point.

Eh, too easy.
 
2010-09-16 09:29:59 AM
So the customer is supposed to ask the waiter not to steal money from them? Poppycock!
 
2010-09-16 09:40:38 AM
Request #4: If you pay with cash and desire change, say something.

You are working. I am dining and relaxing. Ask me if I would like change back.

Besides, I thought it was assumed you wanted change unless you said something like "That's good" when handing over the dough.
 
2010-09-16 09:55:52 AM
Request #2: Keep the cell phones off the table

How about you not spill shiat when doing your job? Or, instead of reaching across the table, you pull the cup to the side and poor something in to it. Or, just bring me a filled cup of something.

Request #4: If you pay with cash and desire change, say something.

That's not my goddamn job. I'm eating my food. How about you just bring back change no matter what? Ever thought of that? Instead of just assuming that the extra pile of money is yours...just bring the money back and I'll decide how much you get.

Whew, all this nagging, you're probably wondering if you deserve anything at this point? Of course you do.

I'm paying for a meal, am I not? I didn't wonder in off the street and take up a seat for 2 hours hoping that my nice attitude would grant me the opportunity to eat food.

I'm giving you $20 to $70 to eat food and get stuff put on my table for 2 hours without you complaining or acting like a jackass.

----
I go out of my way to say please and thank-you. I don't try to make waves or be a pain in the ass. But, when a waiter gets all indignant when the customer doesn't do things their way...it's really goddamn annoying.

It isn't the customer's job to do things a certain way that make your life easier. It's nice. Not terrible.
 
2010-09-16 10:00:22 AM
What a prick.
 
2010-09-16 10:10:03 AM
What a presumptuous douchebag.
 
2010-09-16 10:12:18 AM
Diogenes: Request #4: If you pay with cash and desire change, say something.

You are working. I am dining and relaxing. Ask me if I would like change back.


I cannot stress "this" enough. If you hand me a bill and I pay with legal tender, the amount of which exceeds the bill you handed me, bring me back my farking change. I get to decide whether you get all, some, or none of it. Which brings me to another thing:

Autogratuities may be a "necessary evil" with large parties, but guess what -- if my bill includes an 18% autogratuity, you get not one cent more. I normally go 20% or a bit over, but if your joint figures me to be a potential stiff, take it up with them, not me. If the bill's already got a tip less than 20%, you have lost money with me, not guaranteed yourself a tip.
 
2010-09-16 10:30:38 AM
Diogenes: You are working. I am dining and relaxing. Ask me if I would like change back.

Besides, I thought it was assumed you wanted change unless you said something like "That's good" when handing over the dough.


Yep. Most competent waitstaff, when handed the bill and payment, will say something along the lines of "I'll be right back with your change". That gives you the opportunity to tell them to keep it or whatever.

FTA: "No matter who asks these questions, they always are heard in a naggy-grandmother voice, like you might die unless you have more carbs this instant."

I have an idea. Maybe, when someone requests a refill on some item, you don't wait until they're almost finished with their meal to bring it. This is the exact reason I hate being forced to go to Olive Garden. You can't get a f*cking extra breadstick if you're life depended on it. And when someone asks for a refill, quit acting like the price of the refill comes out of your paycheck or acting like you have broken legs and you have to trek through 500 miles of bandit infested, radioactive desert to get what's requested.

Oh yeah, when you have a table of eight or more people and you set out a basket of five breadsticks and immediately try to haul ass to hide out in the kitchen, you're probably going to be asked to bring more. And you'll do that just as soon as you see we've finished our meals and are ready to leave, of course.

Yes, we know you've had a shiatty night because you had a table full of assholes before we got there. But, you being an asshole to your new table won't get you the kind of tip you think you deserve.
 
2010-09-16 10:32:53 AM
Also, on #4:

If my change is $5.04, you give me $5.05 not $5 if you dont want to deal with pennies. Dont want to deal with change at all, you give me $6 back. Trust me, it will come back to you in the tip. Short me and you may end up with a 4 cent tip.

ROUNDING IN YOUR FAVOR IS NOT farkING ACCEPTABLE.
 
2010-09-16 10:34:14 AM
As someone who was, once upon a time, a server, I can honestly sympathize with all of this...

EXCEPT #4. I always thought it was the height of rudeness to /assume/ your tip was the change. Plus, "I'll be right back with your change" gives your customer the opportunity to feel generous and say "No, keep it, it's all set."

When asked "do I need change", I think: "Well, if I didn't before, I sure do now."

/accidents happen
//put the iPhone away.
 
2010-09-16 10:35:47 AM
I'll be darned. Came in expecting a whiny-server biatchfest with some kid-hating and racist undertones. Leaving...disappointed? satisfied?
 
2010-09-16 10:36:48 AM
Please, have the expectation that your server might present you with fresh banter

No, I have expectations that my server will bring me food. If I'm out with friends or family I want to talk to them, not you. I don't care that you're a struggling actor with this part-time job to help your kids...
 
2010-09-16 10:37:24 AM
Better title:

Passive-aggressive waiter troll gets his jollies writing retarded codes of conduct for the people that put food in his peasant mouth-hole.
 
2010-09-16 10:41:28 AM
What the waiter doesn't understand is that I'm a powerless corporate drone who hates his low-level IT job, has a nagging wife and uncontrollable children, and the only opportunities I get to feel like a man are when I get to be mean to the servant class and when I get to talk about doing so on Fark!
 
2010-09-16 10:43:31 AM
Diogenes: Request #4: If you pay with cash and desire change, say something.

You are working. I am dining and relaxing. Ask me if I would like change back.

Besides, I thought it was assumed you wanted change unless you said something like "That's good" when handing over the dough.


I agree. They should bring change back, every time without asking.
 
2010-09-16 10:43:52 AM
This is precisely why I never tip unless you have done something special for me in the dining experience.

Sorry but your wages are between you and your employer.
 
2010-09-16 10:44:46 AM
www.s-cnet.ne.jp

Do you know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin playing just for the waitresses.
 
2010-09-16 10:44:48 AM
If you do not bring my change, it is theft. Your manager WILL hear about it promptly, and the cops will if necessary.
 
2010-09-16 10:46:19 AM
Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: This is precisely why I never tip unless you have done something special for me in the dining experience.

Sorry but your wages are between you and your employer.


Every one knows 'Canadians' don't tip for shiat. Is it any wonder you get crappy service?
 
2010-09-16 10:46:40 AM
Came here to say shut the fark up and bring me my food, but it looks like it has been covered :)
 
2010-09-16 10:46:55 AM
Heh, we rotate around to a few favorite places.

Last night, the free round was nice, but serving the beers in the huge mugs rather than the 13 ounce solid glass "pint" glasses was even nicer.

Not sure what my point was.
 
2010-09-16 10:47:43 AM
BunkoSquad: What the waiter doesn't understand is that I'm a powerless corporate drone who hates his low-level IT job, has a nagging wife and uncontrollable children, and the only opportunities I get to feel like a man are when I get to be mean to the servant class and when I get to talk about doing so on Fark!

You mean people would go out with the intention of having a bad time and dumping their shiat on other people?

/no way
 
2010-09-16 10:47:50 AM
Sybarite: Request #1: Shut the fark up and bring me my food.

Request #2: Tips are for GOOD service. They are not an entitlement based on showing up.
 
2010-09-16 10:48:37 AM
Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: This is precisely why I never tip unless you have done something special for me in the dining experience.

Sorry but your wages are between you and your employer.


Typically waiters already know who is going to stiff them and won't bother giving any effort at all.

And yes, that is a racist remark.
 
2010-09-16 10:48:40 AM
Lt. Cheese Weasel: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: This is precisely why I never tip unless you have done something special for me in the dining experience.

Sorry but your wages are between you and your employer.

Every one knows 'Canadians' don't tip for shiat. Is it any wonder you get crappy service?


I wouldn't type for shiat when I can produce my own at home.

I'm Canadian, I tip well. You're thinking Quebecers.
 
2010-09-16 10:48:53 AM
EXCEPT #4. I always thought it was the height of rudeness to /assume/ your tip was the change. Plus, "I'll be right back with your change" gives your customer the opportunity to feel generous and say "No, keep it, it's all set."


This!!!!!
 
2010-09-16 10:49:05 AM
Request #4: If you pay with cash and desire change, say something. Example: The other night I was given a $100 bill to cover a $77 tab. The guest handed it to me and said nothing of receiving change. A high tip? Yes, but not a percentage uncommon. Having given good service, I chalked the tip onto the docket as another job well done.

And valets should assume all the change in my center console is their tip.

fark you, garcon.
 
2010-09-16 10:49:25 AM
I always want change. I may supplement the change with additional funds or remove bills from the change to adjust the tip appropriately. The default assumption is that you should ALWAYS bring change unless the patron says "Keep the change" or "we're good".

Don't be lazy about it. I have to fill in time sheets down to the tenth of an hour, you have to make change. Deal with it.
 
2010-09-16 10:49:59 AM
I tell those GROUND WAITRESSES that when I am dining I wanted like the menu said, UNLIMITED BREADSTICKS with my salad. When I've finished 8, I want 8 more. Don't ask me if I want more garlic dippin' sauce with my breadsticks just bring it out. And stop asking me if I'd like the balsamic for my salad. I only want THE BEST - thousand island.

And then they want a tip. Look, HONEY, but all you did was refill my water WITH LEMON and bring out 5 baskets of breadsticks. It's not rocket science. If you don't like it, then you should have gone someplace good like I did - Arizona State.
 
2010-09-16 10:50:37 AM
Yanks_RSJ: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: This is precisely why I never tip unless you have done something special for me in the dining experience.

Sorry but your wages are between you and your employer.

Typically waiters already know who is going to stiff them and won't bother giving any effort at all.

And yes, that is a racist remark.


Sorry, but if you want more money go to college and get a real job. Tipping is no different than a handout. I'll tip you just like I tip the guy who squeegies my window at the street corner.

If you are dealing pot in back, you might get a tip. Otherwise take it up with your boss if you want more money.
 
2010-09-16 10:50:39 AM
BunkoSquad: What the waiter doesn't understand is that I'm a powerless corporate drone who hates his low-level IT job, has a nagging wife and uncontrollable children, and the only opportunities I get to feel like a man are when I get to be mean to the servant class and when I get to talk about doing so on Fark!

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Harry? Harry Mudd? Is that you?
 
2010-09-16 10:50:51 AM
Disclaimer: I've worked in foodservice/hospitality, but never as waitstaff...so I'm not going all working class hero here or anything, but...

Where's the hate coming from? I don't get it. You guys (even the ones who sound like reasonably good tippers) sound kinda like Mr. Pink.

It's one thing to expect the change be brought back without asking - I agree with y'all on that - but some of this other stuff is a little harsh, no? Were you guys abused by a waiter once or something, and now you have to get all ITG on waiters who write blog posts asking to be met half-way?
 
2010-09-16 10:50:59 AM
Diogenes: Request #4: If you pay with cash and desire change, say something.

You are working. I am dining and relaxing. Ask me if I would like change back.

Besides, I thought it was assumed you wanted change unless you said something like "That's good" when handing over the dough.


So very much THIS.
Waitrons need to just assume we want change, just like every other transaction on planet earth. We'll let them know if we don't. Mkay?
 
2010-09-16 10:51:04 AM
averagejoe42: If you do not bring my change, it is theft. Your manager WILL hear about it promptly, and the cops will if necessary.

hee hee, right.

"I am cwalling the police over my 50 cents!"

the farking manager, assuming he has any balls, will stick all of your stupid money in your fat farking fingers and tell you never to come back.
 
2010-09-16 10:51:42 AM
If I give you cash you give me change.

I don't "ask" you for my friggin money.
 
2010-09-16 10:51:43 AM
I_Am_Weasel: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: This is precisely why I never tip unless you have done something special for me in the dining experience.

Sorry but your wages are between you and your employer.

Every one knows 'Canadians' don't tip for shiat. Is it any wonder you get crappy service?

I wouldn't type for shiat when I can produce my own at home.

I'm Canadian, I tip well. You're thinking Quebecers.


Derp. 'Canadian' is waiter codespeak for blacks.
 
2010-09-16 10:52:02 AM
I always tip the wait staff. If they piss me off, it's usually the tip of a pencil wedged into their eye socket.
 
2010-09-16 10:52:34 AM
Pocket Ninja: On another note, do remember that, unless specifically invited, you have no contribution of any worth to make to any conversation taking place at the table. Nobody wants to hear your comment on a story someone at the table is telling. Nobody cares that you have a friend who just got back from the same vacation. Nobody cares that you're trying to be an actor. All anybody cares about is that you serve the table in a benignly friendly way and don't require *us* to accommodate *you*. Which also means that if you approach the table and find everybody there in the midst of a conversation, you DO NOT interrupt it to ask if anybody wants more bread, or to admit that you've forgotten part of the order because you didn't write any of it down and instead tried to operate off of the fearsome power of your own memory. Instead, you stand quietly off the side and wait to be recognized. Don't worry, we see you. We won't make you wait long if you haven't been a pain in the ass up to that point.

I've never understood why some look down on servers for writing down an order - I appreciate the fact that he/she wants to ensure accuracy.

When I have a meeting with my boss, no matter how brief or trivial, I always have a pen and pad with me. In fact, it makes him nervous if he thinks I'm going to attempt to memorize everything he's telling me.
 
2010-09-16 10:52:38 AM
I just read Waiter Rant frankly I'm a bit O.D.ed on service and food-industry blathering, especially when talking of decorum while displaying a complete lack of it.

It's like the stupid idjits on the subway who bump into people and turn into sputtering red-faced anger vectors yelling "EXCUSE ME! WHERE ARE YOUR GOT DAMN MANNERS? GEEEEEZE!"
 
2010-09-16 10:52:40 AM
The wine was fruity and arrogant - just like our waiter.
 
2010-09-16 10:52:58 AM
Lt. Cheese Weasel: I_Am_Weasel: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: This is precisely why I never tip unless you have done something special for me in the dining experience.

Sorry but your wages are between you and your employer.

Every one knows 'Canadians' don't tip for shiat. Is it any wonder you get crappy service?

I wouldn't type for shiat when I can produce my own at home.

I'm Canadian, I tip well. You're thinking Quebecers.

Derp. 'Canadian' is waiter codespeak for blacks.


Can't be. There are no black people in Quebec. Or Alberta.
 
2010-09-16 10:53:02 AM
What is so hard about counting in blogs and articles?

I see this far too often in fark links:
Request #1: blahahaha
Request #2: blahahahaaha
Request #3: blalaas;difawe;
Request #3: a;oseijf;aoweijf

My Request: When making a list, try to make each point a different, possibly larger, probably by one digit, number.
 
2010-09-16 10:54:21 AM
That was a really funny, insightful article, sugartits. Now why don't you hustle those cute lil' buns of yours back there an get me a refill on my coffee?

/God I miss the 70s.
 
2010-09-16 10:54:29 AM
SpectroBoy: Sybarite: Request #1: Shut the fark up and bring me my food.

Request #2: Tips are for GOOD service. They are not an entitlement based on showing up.


piercework.typepad.com

yeah, well Im farking paying for breakfast so leave the girl a god damn tip
 
2010-09-16 10:54:31 AM
Infamous Dr. X: Disclaimer: I've worked in foodservice/hospitality, but never as waitstaff...so I'm not going all working class hero here or anything, but...

Where's the hate coming from? I don't get it. You guys (even the ones who sound like reasonably good tippers) sound kinda like Mr. Pink.

It's one thing to expect the change be brought back without asking - I agree with y'all on that - but some of this other stuff is a little harsh, no? Were you guys abused by a waiter once or something, and now you have to get all ITG on waiters who write blog posts asking to be met half-way?


I'm there to be served, not to meet them halfway.

/work hard and you'll get a nice tip
//agree with all of the "don't jump-in on my conversation, hate that shiat
 
2010-09-16 10:54:39 AM
I really hate it when servers are really pushing the specials. Look jaghole I know it's Monday and there's a ton of fish left over from the weekend, and it's going bad.

My personal favorite was going out one night and encountered a smug server. I ordered the soft shell crab, and he immediately tells me I can eat the shell. No kidding guy? Not all servers are bad, but some are just so jaded.
 
2010-09-16 10:54:50 AM
We usually get great service at the Olive Garden near me. Oh well. And yeah, just bring me my change. All of it. I don't care about that last 13 cents but if it's not returned then it's your tip.
 
2010-09-16 10:55:11 AM
This why I only eat at the Chinese buffet.
 
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