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(New York Daily News)   Your Friday dose of schadenfreude: Laid-off lawyer previously making $160k a year now making ends meet cleaning one bedroom apartments for $70 a piece. (With pic showing that at least she's not starving to death)   (nydailynews.com) divider line 82
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2010-09-10 03:19:34 PM  
I'm diggin' it. I'd drill press her.
 
2010-09-10 03:39:09 PM  
How the fark are you an unemployed lawyer after a year? Get your sorry ass down to the courthouse and get put on the court appointments list.
 
2010-09-10 03:44:27 PM  
why would you have schadenfreude over that? being laid off sucks, i'm sure. i hope it never happens to me.
 
2010-09-10 03:45:02 PM  
She admits she has been a little picky, hoping to avoid work at corporate firms

A "little picky"? Really?
 
2010-09-10 03:46:11 PM  
Hey, it beats doc review.
 
2010-09-10 03:51:22 PM  
mitchcumstein1: How the fark are you an unemployed lawyer after a year? Get your sorry ass down to the courthouse and get put on the court appointments list.

It's really a bad job market out there right now. Lots of out of work JDs. And as for court appointments, she's probably making more money with the cleaning gig.
 
2010-09-10 03:57:28 PM  
Nabb1: mitchcumstein1: How the fark are you an unemployed lawyer after a year? Get your sorry ass down to the courthouse and get put on the court appointments list.

It's really a bad job market out there right now. Lots of out of work JDs. And as for court appointments, she's probably making more money with the cleaning gig.



Cept she said she hasn't had one client yet doing cleaning and most of the jobs she said she applied for our manual low skills positions that hundreds of others can apply at.

She seems shocked that not applying at corporate firms has harmed her chance of being hired by a company.
 
2010-09-10 04:07:21 PM  
At least she'll be going honourable work now.
 
2010-09-10 04:10:44 PM  
TheAbstractor: Hey, it beats doc review.

Christ, cleaning the floor of a public bathroom with a toothbrush beats doc review.
 
2010-09-10 04:13:32 PM  
Yeah...she's not whining about it. Good for her.
 
2010-09-10 04:16:42 PM  
witchofthedogs: TheAbstractor: Hey, it beats doc review.

Christ, cleaning the floor of a public bathroom with a toothbrush beats doc review.


Cleaning the floor of a public bathroom with your own toothbrush beats doc review.
 
2010-09-10 04:20:14 PM  
drivingsouth: I'm diggin' it. I'd drill press her.


Ditto.
 
2010-09-10 04:27:37 PM  
Interesting, all of my wife's Friends who graduated in the last 2 years are employed, are they doing the Lawyering they thought they would do? For most no, but they are employed as lawyers and paying the bills.

from the article it sounds like she wants to work for a 'boutique" firm that pays a lot but only involves the "interesting" cases!
 
2010-09-10 04:38:15 PM  
Nabb1: mitchcumstein1: How the fark are you an unemployed lawyer after a year? Get your sorry ass down to the courthouse and get put on the court appointments list.

It's really a bad job market out there right now. Lots of out of work JDs. And as for court appointments, she's probably making more money with the cleaning gig.


State of Kansas pays 65 per hour now, going down to 60. If she can make more per hour cleaning houses she should, but I highly doubt she can.
 
2010-09-10 04:39:09 PM  
Azlefty: from the article it sounds like she wants to work for a 'boutique" firm that pays a lot but only involves the "interesting" cases!

Yeah...and she's not whining about her school, her parents, her old job or anything like that. She's decided to do something in the meantime while she looks for a job she really wants.

There are PLENTY of entitled douchebags in the world. This doesn't seem like one of them.
 
2010-09-10 05:47:44 PM  
She's apparently never heard of 'savings,' probably expects the government to take care of all that for her.
 
2010-09-10 05:54:48 PM  
Barakku: She's apparently never heard of 'savings,' probably expects the government to take care of all that for her.

i bet she's heard of a savings account. in 2010, it's actually pretty unreasonable to assume otherwise.
 
2010-09-10 05:55:09 PM  
If only there was some kind of way where part of her $160k a year could have been put away incase her source of income came under threat.
 
2010-09-10 06:00:34 PM  
tototototo: If only there was some kind of way where part of her $160k a year could have been put away incase her source of income came under threat.

she's been out of work for a year. how much do you expect her to have socked away?
 
2010-09-10 06:04:08 PM  
tototototo: If only there was some kind of way where part of her $160k a year could have been put away incase her source of income came under threat.

Well, let's see. She graduated from law school in 2007 and has been out of work for a year. Assuming she started working as soon as she passed the bar, that means she worked for just under two years before becoming unemployed. She probably carried a hefty student loan debt upon graduating. And, she lives in New York City, where the cost of living is pretty high. So, just how much coin do you think someone under those circumstances should have socked away in two years?
 
2010-09-10 06:05:56 PM  
Nabb1: tototototo: If only there was some kind of way where part of her $160k a year could have been put away incase her source of income came under threat.

Well, let's see. She graduated from law school in 2007 and has been out of work for a year. Assuming she started working as soon as she passed the bar, that means she worked for just under two years before becoming unemployed. She probably carried a hefty student loan debt upon graduating. And, she lives in New York City, where the cost of living is pretty high. So, just how much coin do you think someone under those circumstances should have socked away in two years?


the combination of cynicism and ignorance on this website would put that at about $100k, which should last her just under 15 years before she needs to work again.
 
2010-09-10 06:06:19 PM  
It sounds like she's angling for some publicity and perhaps a reality show, so, no schadenfreude from me.
 
2010-09-10 06:13:31 PM  
Hang out a shingle. Worked for me.
 
2010-09-10 06:37:28 PM  
Why is this green?
 
2010-09-10 06:38:33 PM  
Barakku: She's apparently never heard of 'savings,' probably expects the government to take care of all that for her.

What crazy article did you read? I read one about a recent college grad who came up with a plan INSTEAD of whining about it. At all.

At no point does she biatch about the economy. At no point does she blame her parents. At no point does she whine about Sallie Mae "forcing" her to take out those loans. At no point does she say she wants someone to bail her out.
 
2010-09-10 06:42:06 PM  
muck4doo: Why is this green?

To show that personal ambition is not always a positive life choice.
 
2010-09-10 07:31:45 PM  
muck4doo: Why is this green?

The same reason that any article is green: TO TRY TO TAKE OVER THE *WORLD.*
 
2010-09-10 07:54:35 PM  
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: muck4doo: Why is this green?

The same reason that any article is green: TO TRY TO TAKE OVER THE *WORLD.*


Makes as much sense as anything I guess.
 
2010-09-10 07:55:34 PM  
2wolves: muck4doo: Why is this green?

To show that personal ambition is not always a positive life choice.


Neither is going through life thinking everyone is obliged to give you stuff for free.
 
2010-09-10 08:28:50 PM  
muck4doo: 2wolves: muck4doo: Why is this green?

To show that personal ambition is not always a positive life choice.

Neither is going through life thinking everyone is obliged to give you stuff for free.


Citation please.

I'll wait for your deflection.
 
2010-09-10 08:54:22 PM  
2wolves: muck4doo: 2wolves: muck4doo: Why is this green?

To show that personal ambition is not always a positive life choice.

Neither is going through life thinking everyone is obliged to give you stuff for free.

Citation please.

I'll wait for your deflection.


You are looking for a citation on that?

Neither is going through life thinking everyone is obliged to give you stuff for free.

Well if you want to go through life believing everyone is obliged to give you free shiat go right on ahead. Don't feel bad when everyone else also decides they don't like your bum ass.
 
2010-09-10 09:53:36 PM  
So, denied the chance to ridicule her lazy sense of entitlement as she sits at home crying about not being able to get her $160k/year job back, the fark community rejoices in her demeaning method of making ends meet until she gets it together.

I say good for her. Better than sitting in the projects with a bunch of food stamp twinkies and government issue insulin needles.
 
2010-09-10 10:11:41 PM  
=mba cant find a job in miami except sales...but it could be because im white
 
2010-09-10 10:14:34 PM  
mitchcumstein1: If she can make more per hour cleaning houses she should, but I highly doubt she can.

She could go into topless cleaning.
 
2010-09-10 10:15:13 PM  
She has a great set of fun bags though.
 
2010-09-10 10:20:09 PM  
mitchcumstein1: How the fark are you an unemployed lawyer after a year? Get your sorry ass down to the courthouse and get put on the court appointments list.

THIS

and if she's make a really bad name for herself in her area, she just needs to move to any of the 1000s of cities in NA who are backlogged to the point where they are hiring out anyone with any kind of legal expertise as overflow workers just to process paperwork.
 
2010-09-10 10:32:46 PM  
Wouldn't call i shadenfreude or what have you but does make me disappointed I'm not making 160,000 a year.

Also someone pulling that kind of green could get a job in another firm I'm sure, even if she has to relocate. Hell pull paralegal for awhile, better than scrubbing shiat for $70 a house.
 
2010-09-10 10:44:22 PM  
The_Sponge: drivingsouth: I'm diggin' it. I'd drill press her.


Ditto.


Damned straight.

/tap
 
2010-09-10 11:04:56 PM  
Good for her for getting back to work rather than sucking off the taxpayer teat.
 
2010-09-10 11:07:46 PM  
She admits she has been a little picky, hoping to avoid work at corporate firms, but noted she hasn't had any luck outside the legal world either.

WTF?

So she's stuck being a cleaning lady now?
 
2010-09-10 11:09:05 PM  
H31N0US: So, denied the chance to ridicule her lazy sense of entitlement as she sits at home crying about not being able to get her $160k/year job back, the fark community rejoices in her demeaning method of making ends meet until she gets it together.

I say good for her. Better than sitting in the projects with a bunch of food stamp twinkies and government issue insulin needles.


This.

Big props to her. She may be a lot of things, but she is no little snowflake. She clearly takes the larger view of life.
 
2010-09-10 11:11:40 PM  
D_Evans45: Wouldn't call i shadenfreude or what have you but does make me disappointed I'm not making 160,000 a year.

Also someone pulling that kind of green could get a job in another firm I'm sure, even if she has to relocate. Hell pull paralegal for awhile, better than scrubbing shiat for $70 a house.


TFA specifically says she applied for paralegal jobs, and other stuff too. Got turned for baby-sitting gigs.

Most people have no clue about the bloodbath that happened at BigLaw over the past couple of years, and the law is a funny thing - if you are making less than 160k, then you are most likely making less than 75k. There isn't a lot in between, and those big firm jobs are fickle, as this article illustrates.
 
2010-09-10 11:19:47 PM  
Three Crooked Squirrels: Hang out a shingle. Worked for me.

A first-year associate hang a shingle? She could call her practice "Malpractice and associates." If I had my way, it would be illegal for fresh JDs to go solo. Every other profession has a required supervised training period - why not law?


mitchcumstein1: Get your sorry ass down to the courthouse and get put on the court appointments list.

See above. Besides, unless she has relevant experience or the means of acquiring it, she would be committing malpractice by taking on criminal cases, in violation of the ethical requirements. So it would illegal as well as stupid.



mitchcumstein1: How the fark are you an unemployed lawyer after a year?

There are thousands of young lawyers in her exact situation, or worse. Most of the big firms laid off lots of associates, and many retracted all their employment offers to fresh grads - at least this lady got to work for a year.
 
2010-09-10 11:39:20 PM  
There have been many times where I wanted to leave it all behind and tend sheep in Nepal
 
2010-09-10 11:39:21 PM  
mitchcumstein1: State of Kansas pays 65 per hour now, going down to 60. If she can make more per hour cleaning houses she should, but I highly doubt she can.

She's not in Kansas any more, Toto. In NYC, there's the public defender's office first, a massively overfunded Legal Aid next and the assignment list third, and even then it's dominated by gifts to recent former PD lawyers who are trying to strike out on their own, coerced hours on the courthouse regulars and graft directed at party operatives and future judges. Someone showing up with no political connections and no criminal law experience has about as much chance of catching a case as a 9-11 troofer has of winning the Nobel Prize in physics.
 
2010-09-10 11:51:24 PM  
H31N0US: So, denied the chance to ridicule her lazy sense of entitlement as she sits at home crying about not being able to get her $160k/year job back, the fark community rejoices in her demeaning method of making ends meet until she gets it together.

I say good for her. Better than sitting in the projects with a bunch of food stamp twinkies and government issue insulin needles.


Did you read the thread? We went ahead and mocked her lazy sense of entitlement anyway!

/I wonder how sammich-makin pays...
 
2010-09-11 12:08:27 AM  
Three years out of law school and making 160k a year?

Tell me why I went into engineering again?
 
2010-09-11 12:22:55 AM  
H31N0US: So, denied the chance to ridicule her lazy sense of entitlement as she sits at home crying about not being able to get her $160k/year job back, the fark community rejoices in her demeaning method of making ends meet until she gets it together.

I say good for her. Better than sitting in the projects with a bunch of food stamp twinkies and government issue insulin needles.


WTF do you have against diabetics?
 
2010-09-11 12:47:56 AM  
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: muck4doo: Why is this green?

The same reason that any article is green: TO TRY TO TAKE OVER THE *WORLD.*


Hey! That's my job. I'm gonna sue
 
2010-09-11 12:56:44 AM  
leadmetal: Three years out of law school and making 160k a year?

Tell me why I went into engineering again?


$160k was her starting salary (before bonus) right out of law school. She makes a tad less now.

But anyway - according to the Fark Theory of Societal Order, engineers are the highest lifeform, created by Yahweh on the eighth day. This provides you with a sense of smug satisfaction that is valued at approximately $350,000/year, making engineers the best-paid people on Earth as well as the most handsome.
 
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